Hi all,
I use Ubuntu gnome 24.04 with Orca main. I notice that the App Center is
not accessible with Orca or do I miss steps to make it accessible?
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I use flat review which
works well.
success.
Milton
Op 06-05-2024 om 09:55 schreef Vojtech šmiro:
Hello,
how did you do that? My friend had problems with selecting disk and
other sighted persons hat this problem too.
Thanks.
Best regards
Vojta.
Dne 06. 05. 24 v 9:45 milton napsal(a):
Many many thanks to Ubuntu developers! I am very happy to be able
installing Ubuntu 24.04 with the great help of Orca screenreader.
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Hi Al,
I downloaded 23.04-desktop-amd64.iso from www.releases.ubuntu.com and
installed successful with the help of Orca. After the startup sound
alt+super+S started Orca. Orca+H tells 44.0.
Milton
Op 12-06-2023 om 16:10 schreef Al Puzzuoli:
Hi all,
I’m experimenting with the various
Hi,
To obtain Orca master at-spi2core 2.48 is needed. The current version is
2.44. How can I get 2.48? Is it possible maintainers of Ubuntu 22.04 can
provide in this? Thanks in advance.
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tab OPEN WITH and select in the list Document viewer.
3. tab to the button default and press Enter.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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start from kernel 5.15.x, when starting pressing Shift or Escape. Is it
a known issue? Do we have to wait until another 5.19 kernel solves this
problem? For users depending on speech to start from an earlier kernel
is not accissible.
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Today I upgrade 20.04 to 22.04 on my Dell Latitude 6430 through Update
manager. I am very happy and surprised to notice that I can launch any
file by pressing Super key and type the name of that file and pressing
Enter, just like in 20.04!
Milton
Op 05-05-2022 om 13:33 schreef milton:
I did
After a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04.1 on a Dell Alianware, I7, 8GB
RAM, I could add a new user without problems.
Milton
Op 28-06-2022 om 13:53 schreef milton:
Hi,
I use a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04, gnome 42 with Orca master. In
Wayland I could not add another user through Settings
Hi,
On the Orca mailing list I read a thread about enabling accessibiity. I
am little confused. Can you tell if it is essential to set 'export
ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1' or is it like 'if it does not work it won't hurt'?
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. Espeakup read a welcome message.
Milton
Op 12-07-2022 om 23:58 schreef Monica Ayhens-Madon:
Thank you for the advice, Jude!
David, were you able to get this working using Jude's tips?
Monica Ayhens-Madon
Ubuntu Community Representative, Canonical
On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 1:31 PM Jude DaS
d
3. navigate with flat review to Add user and left click on it.
In Wayland Orca then stops speaking while in Xorg I can type the name of
a new user and Tab to the Add button.
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Hi,
Today I had the opportunity to upgrade a Lenovo ThinkPad 531 and Orca
master from Ubuntu 20.04 to 22.04. All went well. I have no issues,
Alt+Super+S works as expected. So I think my problem is with Dell 5480
Touch.
Milton
Op 20-06-2022 om 13:18 schreef milton:
Hi,
I did a fresh
Orca. But there is no sound at all.
I press again Alt=Super+S to deactivate Orca and restart the laptop.
Now I hear the system-ready-sound again. I press Alt+F2 and type 'orca'
to start Orca.
I wonder if this has to do with Ubuntu or with the Dell 5480?
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until Ubuntu 12.04 the command ofris-en did the job. Your
help/advice is very appreciated.
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djust Favorites by right clik and remove from Favorites.
I use Firefox after installing the .deb package with sudo apt install
firefox
Milton
Op 15-10-2021 om 23:21 schreef Jude DaShiell:
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From: Halim Sahin
To: orca
Hi,
As of less than 2 months before the release of Ubuntu 21.10 the
installer seems not accessible with Orca screen reader, I worried about
my current job. Will the installer be accessible with Orca in the
LTS-version 22.04 as in 20.04?
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Try to connect only a vga cable.
Op 09-07-2021 om 19:10 schreef Daniel Crone:
Using ubuntu 20.04, I find it needs a monitor.
I know this because when starting once, forgetting to connect the monitor,
ubuntu could not log in.
Might one be able to run ubuntu 20.04 without any monitor?
Using orca,
application or
file. Typing shutdown can also be uesed to shutdown the computer.
Alt+Control+Tab to navigate to the top panel or to the current window.
In the top panel navigate with Arrow keys, you will find System where to
connect with wifi, battery and shutdown.
Milton
Op 09-07-2021 om 18:58
It will be great! Thanks for sharing.
Milton
Op 10-02-2021 om 12:31 schreef Vojtěch šmiro:
Hello,
I've sent the link about Flutter to the Telegram Ubuntu czech and
Slovak list. One great man from Slovakia wrote to Flutter developers
and they tested it with Orca and it would be acces
Hopefully for the next LTS 22.04 the installer will be accessible with
Orca I'll be happy to keep my job.
Milton
Op 07-02-2021 om 23:36 schreef Luke Yelavich:
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 09:25:26AM AEDT, Luke Yelavich wrote:
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 12:09:54AM AEDT, milton wrote:
Hi,
I
Hi,
I heard about flutter and future installer of Ubuntu. Hopefully the
installer then will be like now accessible with Orca? If not I have to
start looking for another job.
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options because I then need sighted help. Any idea to solve those
problems? Thanks in advance.
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Yes indeed, I also like to know how to get the handy categories back.
Milton
Op 08-06-2020 om 03:17 schreef Daniel Crone:
When trying ubuntu 20.4 I noticed that the ubuntu software program where
programs are downloaded were in handy categories.
But later today it is now a preview page, with
.
Success.
Milton
Op 09-05-2020 om 11:00 schreef Daniel Crone:
When writing an image file to a usb drive, first I changed to the directory
where the file was, and then I was typing the dd command in this form.
sudo dd if=filename.iso of=/dev/sdf bs=4M conv=sync
The file name was long, so after
Hi,
After dowloading the .iso file and checking the md5sum I simply do the
following:
1. insert the memory stick.
2. in a terminal type:
usb-creator-gtk
Note: you can press Tab after typing 'usb-c'
3. press Enter.
4. follow the steps on the screen.
Success.\Milton
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minutes. After this process is ready and no errors found I then
hear the welcome sound. So then I start Orca.
Milton
Op 05-05-2020 om 14:56 schreef Daniel Crone:
Hello everyone. I am using Ubuntu 2020 with a Dell.
When installing Ubuntu mate 2020.04 yesterday, I pressed f 12 to get to the
Hi,
I have no problems installing Ubuntu 20.04 with the great help of Orca
but I have no experience installing from a dvd or in a virtual machine.
I am happy with:
https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/index.html.en
https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/shell-keyboard-shortcuts.html.en
I think maybe he has gnome in stead of unity, he can heck it out in the
terminal, type:
echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
Op 11-03-2020 om 17:52 schreef Jude DaShiell:
I'm doing what I can to help Ray out with this. Apparently his version of
ubuntu removed the gnome-classic option which is why he's
You can se the version of Ubuntu in the terminal, type:
lsb_release -a
Op 11-03-2020 om 17:40 schreef Jude DaShiell:
A friend has in /etc/debian_version buster-sid. What version of ubuntu
has he got on his computer?
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inal and change to the orca folder:
cd orca
So now you just type:
git pull
and press Enter
If there are updates you have to execute the next 3 commands:
PYTHON=/usr/bin/python3.7 ./autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
Success,
Milton
Op 09-12-2019 om 13:08 schreef vladdragomir1...@gmail
Hi Vlad,
For my daily work I use Ubuntu 18.04 but just out of curiousity I tried
19.10 and I met with the same problem as you described. So I installed
Orca master and Orca is doing well.
Milton
Op 09-12-2019 om 11:15 schreef vladdragomir1...@gmail.com:
Greetings everyone,
First I'd
.
3. Press the Spacebar to open the combobox.
4. Arrow-Down to land on the first option which should be Mate.
5. Press the Spacebar to select this option.
6. Press Tab to land on the Sign Inn button and press Enter.
After login press Super+Alt+S to start Orca.
Success.
Milton
Op 06-07-19 om 22
Hi,
I use Ubuntu 18.04 with Orca master. I want to set a shortcut key to run
a shell script. Sighted users tell me there is in keyboard setting a
'plus sign' to click on for this task. However the 'plus sign' is not
visible for Orca. Do you know another way? Thanks
For this task I use the terminal with
usb-creator-gtk
Milton
Op 24-08-18 om 22:46 schreef Daniel Crone:
After starting disk image, and telling it to burn an ubuntu iso on to a stick,
orca is quiet, and it seems I cannot do anything.
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Indeed, I also noticed it. I can create an account for Guest but do
anyone know how to login without a password?
Milton
Op 21-08-18 om 06:27 schreef Daniel Crone:
Anyone else notice that ubuntu 18.04 has no log in as guest?
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Hi,
If you use Ubuntu 18.04 check for zoom:
https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/a11y-mag.html.en
alt+super+= zoom out
alt+super+- zoom in
Alt+Super+8 toggle zoom
Success.
Milton
Op 15-07-18 om 02:15 schreef Harry Staley:
Good evening;
I have been using the Compiz tools and am
Hi,
You can Tab to 'Menu overview' and arrow down in this list. Press Enter
on a subject and toggle to browse mode with Orca-key+a. You can go to
the top of the page with Control+Home and start reading.
Milton
Op 31-05-18 om 16:46 schreef Daniel Crone:
Here is a link to a tut
the Close button and press Enter.
Success.
Milton
Op 23-05-18 om 11:23 schreef Alex ARNAUD:
Hello Milton,
I'm also interested in this sound.
Could you tell us how to make it working?
When I use the command you give us I obtain the following error:
Failed to play sound: File or data not found
Hi Glenn,
If you mean the welcom sound of Ubuntu then you can set this in Startup
application with the command:
/usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login" --description="GNOME Login"
Milton
Op 21-05-18 om 16:33 schreef Ervin, Glenn:
Hi, Along with this, I have had
once more Super+Alt+S to start
Orca.
Now I am fine running 18.04 with Orca 3.28.0
Many thanks.
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er in the
Ubuntu menu in the top right corner of the screen. If I remember right
press Alt_F10 then richt arrow once and up arrow once, then press Enter.
Milton
Op 05-02-18 om 03:13 schreef daniel wolak:
Good morning,
I'm just attempting to figure out what's going on with
Many thanks Rob and also for your hard work!
Milton
Op 15-03-17 om 13:01 schreef Rob Whyte:
Hey there Milton,
nice to see you about.
Yes I guess it will be Vinux 7 indeed.
We are still in early stages of planning.
We have secured servers etc to develop and build packages on and are
planning
Hi Rob,
Great news! Will Vinux 7 based on Fedora and when will the release be
planned?
Milton
Op 15-03-17 om 12:53 schreef Rob Whyte:
Hi Werwoelfchen,
It is our hope to complete our Ubuntu 16.04.2 release of Vinux 6 and
support that whilst we work on a Fedora release.
Hope this addresses
Hi Peter,
Many many many thanks! This enables me in my job to help sighted people.
Milton
Op 13-02-17 om 11:24 schreef Peter Vágner:
Hello,
Yes, this is possible but there is an additional step needed to enable
the addon since Kodi 17.
Assumed you have done all that Kyle has recommended i.e
.kodi/addons
unzip ~/service.xbmc.tts-1.0.6.zip
cd
After I launch Kodi 17.0 I have no speech. Did I miss something? Thanks
in advance.
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Hi,
I cannot confirm because I already did several installation with 16.04.1
and Orca.
Milton
Op 04-11-16 om 16:08 schreef Al Puzzuoli:
Hello,
I'm finding that I am unable to start Orca on most versions of the
Ubuntu Live CD. After I hear the Tom Tom sound, I press alt+super+S, and
no
Hi,
I added the accessibility ppa in Ubuntu 16.04 and I notice to have Orca
3.20.3 version. I reas about Orca 3.22 came out so I'm wondering if
this also be in Ubuntu 16.04? Thanks a lot.
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Hi,
I succesfully installed 16.04.1 with the help of Orca. Alt F10 takes you
to the menubar in the upper right corner of the screen and alt F1 takes
you to the Starter.
Milton
Op 26-10-16 om 01:59 schreef Daniel Crone:
I have ubuntu on a stick, and ran it. Once I installed on a computer
Indeed, the entire usb-drive is selected.
Milton
Op 06-08-16 om 21:17 schreef Glenn / Lenny:
Hi Milton,
With that command, it brings up the program, and I can select the USB drive
in question, but the only options are other..., which seems to be for adding
more file types, and the other option
Hi,
Maybe this will be of help:
in Ubuntu 16.04 I type in a terminal after the flash drive is inserted:
usb-creator-gtk
Milton
Op 06-08-16 om 19:01 schreef Glenn / Lenny:
Hi,
I have been trying several different programs including the DD command,
and either the program seems inaccessible with
well.
Maybe this can help?
Milton
Op 06-08-16 om 06:43 schreef Rob Whyte:
Why not rm -rf ~/.local/share/orca and try again before messing with Pulse.
Pulse is designed to just work and it sounds like it is doing just that.
You could rm -rf ~/.pulse as well if you wanted.
Are you starting speec
Hi,
Maybe installing from a usb flash drive or an usb cd/dvd player?
Milton
Op 03-08-16 om 02:58 schreef Glenn / Lenny:
Hi,
I have a laptop that will boot to CD, but not DVD.
It used to have XP on it.
I would like to put either Ubuntu or otherwise, simply Debian.
I did find a Debian on CD
Hi,
I installed LIOS with sudo apt-get install lios in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit
with Orca 3.20.1
With F8 and F9 for scanning I got no results, even when I went to the
menubar with Alt_F10 and pressing the options for scanning and scan and
read. Do I miss something for LIOS to work? Thanks.
Milton
Hi List,
I tried in Brasero to burn data on a cd with the help of Orca in Ubuntu
14.04 Orca 3.18.1
I could select files but Orca keeps quiet. Do you know what to do best?
Thanks.
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Oh yes it is indeed there. I was looking for another menu because my
system is not in English.
Milton
Op 06-05-16 om 14:18 schreef Christopher Chaltain:
I haven't been following this thread, so I'm not sure if this will be
helpful or not, but use alt+f1 and then left arrow and dow
I cannot find any admin menu. So I let a sighted person help to connect
with wifi.
Milton
Op 05-05-16 om 20:54 schreef Jude DaShiell:
If you did that in a user account you won't have access. This is a root
operation. You'll also have to have a graphical user interface up in
root f
I did but Orca says nothing while hitting left arrow. I use a laptop,
does it make any sense?
Milton
Op 05-05-16 om 15:46 schreef Jude DaShiell:
Try control-shift-tab then hit leftarrow a few times and see what happens.
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote:
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:30:58
From
. I login with Mate and have
Orca running. I cannot access the applet menubar in the upper right
corner of the screen to connect with wifi.
I can get to the botom bar with Control+Alt_Escape.
Alt+F1 takes me to the upperleft with applications, Location and System.
Thanks.
Milton
Op 05-05-16 om 10
Hi List,
Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME
Metacity? If yes, how can I do this?
I installed GNOME Metacity with:
sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback
and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME Metacity.
Thanks.
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time I can work further with Orca using other applications.
I will wait for updates to have the best of Orca and 16.04. Thanks.
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Press Alt+super+S
I just installed 16.04 successfully with the help of Orca.
Milton
Op 22-04-16 om 19:51 schreef chad baker:
Hi just burned 16.04 to disk and orca won’t start when doing control s
Did things change?
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Many thanks for your answer. Hopefully it will be once accessible with
speech.
Milton
Op 01-04-16 om 04:10 schreef Luke Yelavich:
On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 10:20:33AM AEDT, Nolan Darilek wrote:
I feel like the OP's question is a bit different.
My understanding of these devices is that
Hi,
Now the BQ Aquaris M10 convergence with Ubuntu 15.04 is out will Orca
works when connecting it to a keyboard and screen?
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Maybe a point to start?
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/03/the-value-of-the-community/?_ga=1.26280317.1569423750.1450296328
Op 02-03-16 om 06:18 schreef Michael Pozhidaev:
Hi Luke,
Thank you very much for the information you give! The only question I
would like to ask is should we expect
Yes, I prefer an Ubuntu phone and convergence accessible with speech.
Milton
Op 01-03-16 om 05:12 schreef Michael Pozhidaev:
Hi guys,
A lot of rumors appears around the Ubuntu phone, what is very great news
in itself. I'm just wondering is there any work to make this phone
accessible fo
Many thanks for clarification.
Milton
Op 12-12-15 om 02:02 schreef Alex ARNAUD:
On 07/12/2015 15:10, Milton wrote:
Yes, I have a sighted person to test and he found it blurry at the
level of one line fits on the screen. So I will have some visually
impaired test and wait on their experiences
ait on their experiences.
In ubuntu 15.10 I got gnome-shell 3.16. Will the video card and the
screen have something to do with the blurry view?
Thanks.
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In ubuntu 15.10 I got gnome-shell 3.16. Will the video card and the
screen have something to do with the blurry view?
Thanks.
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through the shortcut keys in Systemsettings > Keyboardsetting.
So I did not check the magnification in the compizconfig-setting-manager.
Milton
Op 30-11-15 om 05:35 schreef Alex ARNAUD:
On 29/11/2015 19:24, Milton wrote:
Hi List,
Hi Milton
I use Ubuntu 14.04.3 with Orca 3.18 and instal
. The view is blurry. Did I miss something? Do you
have tips for me? Thanks.
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Milton
Op 23-11-15 om 00:36 schreef blind Pete:
Milton wrote:
Hi List,
I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.10 to try magnification. I installed
compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins. I notice that Enhanced
Zoom Desktop is enabled by default. I
Many thanks Alex, it works!
Milton
Op 21-11-15 om 19:37 schreef Alex ARNAUD:
On 21/11/2015 18:07, Milton wrote:
Hi Alex,
For adding a new short key I have to type the command for the negative
view to start or to stop. What command do you use? Even it is in
French maybe I can recognise some
Hi Alex,
For adding a new short key I have to type the command for the negative
view to start or to stop. What command do you use? Even it is in French
maybe I can recognise some. Thanks.
Milton
Op 21-11-15 om 17:50 schreef Alex ARNAUD:
On 21/11/2015 17:43, Milton wrote:
Hi Alex,
I
nothing.
Milton
Op 21-11-15 om 14:57 schreef Alex ARNAUD:
On 21/11/2015 14:17, Milton wrote:
Hi List,
Hi
I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.10 to try magnification. I
installed compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins. I notice
that Enhanced Zoom Desktop is enabled by default. I
with
magnification while in Gnome-shell it works. But in Gnome-shell negative
view is not working after I checked this function. Do you have some
tips? Thanks.
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Hi List,
It seems that Orca is indeed working during installation. I could not
hear Orca speaking so with the help of a sighted person I install 15.10
and after reboot Orca came up talking in the login screen and also after
login.
Milton
Op 12-11-15 om 14:54 schreef Milton:
Hi List,
I
not included or do I miss something. Thanks.
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Hi,
It happens to me sometimes. I run 14.04.3 with Orca 3.18. I then restart
Orca by pressing twice Control and S.
Milton
Op 12-10-15 om 12:21 schreef Nick Wood:
Hi all,
I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 (32-bit) and have Orca set to start automatically
at the logon screen, but I'm getting
out and
find me in the login screen. What could be wrong and how can I solve
this? Thanks.
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Fantastic! Many many thanks for your hard work.
Milton
Op 23-09-15 om 07:27 schreef Luke Yelavich:
Hey folks.
This is just a quick message to let you know that the latest stable GNOME
accessibility stack will be available shortly in the Ubuntu Accessibility dev
PPA, found at http
Many thanks Kyle! I've got the beep now.
Milton
Op 17-09-15 om 18:34 schreef Kyle:
One thing you may possibly need to do once you uncomment that line is
to run
sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
If this still produces no beep, then it's likely that your device is
incapable
So I did uncomment the line and ran update-grub.
But still no beep. Do I miss something? Thanks.
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Thank you for some clarification.
I found:
http://www.hamradioandvision.com/compiz-magnification-in-ubuntu/
ccsm is not fully accessible with Orca. But we are one step further.
Milton
Op 18-07-15 om 06:51 schreef blind Pete:
Milton wrote:
Hi blind Pete,
I could not get further because I do
for
Zoom? Thanks in advance.
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Thank you Jean-Hilippe. Is the GNOME magnifyer Compiz?
Milton
Op 15-07-15 om 13:57 schreef MENGUAL Jean-Philippe:
Hi,
Gnome3 now has a magnifier which seems to work all right, although improvements
are required. Otherwise, for our Universal Access System, we use MATE and
Compiz, which work
Hi blind Pete,
I could not get further because I do not know what buttons are button1,
button2 etc.
Can you or somebody tell me if I set Zoom-inn to button4 what button
that is on my keyboard and also for button5? Thanks in advance.
Milton
Op 17-07-15 om 06:07 schreef blind Pete:
Milton wrote
Thank you Luke for the information. It gives me hope for my projects
using the LTS 16.04. For now I have to figure out about the Compiz
settings for to try out. Do you mean Compiz with the GNOME shell?magnifier
Milton
Op 17-07-15 om 00:45 schreef Luke Yelavich:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:49
I tried virtual Magnifyer Glass in GNOME Metacity. So my friend has to
judge by himself if it is good enough. Last year I tried Compiz but I
could not put the settings right.
Milton
Op 16-07-15 om 09:23 schreef blind Pete:
Milton wrote:
A question for helping out a friend: can you recommand
A question for helping out a friend: can you recommand a system to work
with magnification? Thanks in advance.
Milton
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Hello everybody,
I'm wondering if Ubuntu is accessible with Orca on the raspberry pi?
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Hi all,
Thanks to Rob for helping me out and also thanks to B.H. I'm an end
user and happy to learn by the instructions I get.
Milton
Op 30-04-15 om 10:50 schreef Rob Whyte:
Hi,
You can make sure your /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf looks like this:
[SeatDefaults]
greeter-session=unity-gr
to use her account I then change for another
user in de system menu.
Milton
Op 28-04-15 om 10:13 schreef B. Henry:
I almost nevr install via the software center, so do not know commands for
checking dependencies from there.
I'd make sure that I removed the extra packages . In a termin
In lightdm I use ctrl_S to start Orca to speak. But now it won't work. a
sighted person told me that there is only one account shown in the login
screen. so I think it is not lightdm. In the software Centre I delete
the Lubuntu-desktop but I still stay with another dm.
Milton
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tell me how to get Orca to speak again in the login screen?
Thank you.
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Hi all,
I notice today LibreOffice Calc in Ubuntu Trusty constantly creashes. I
work with Orca 3.14.3. What could be wrong or is it only on my laptop?
Thanks.
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Hi Luke,
It is great to have the latest stable Orca in Trusty! Many, many thanks
for your hard work!!
Milton
Op 21-10-14 om 19:37 schreef Luke Yelavich:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 01:10:38PM EDT, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
Hello,
I experience known bugs in Ubuntu 14.04 with Orca and
Hi all,
I use Ubuntu Trusty with Orca. I notice that reading mails in
Thunderbird 31.0 with the arrow keys Orca does not find all text.
Sometimes I then use the letters h, o or p with succes within the
incoming mail. Pressing f7 gives no result. Any idea? thanks.
Milton
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