Members of the Ubuntu community,
We have 5 nominations to expand the community council, and voting starts
today.
Each candidate is standing individually, so there are 5 separate votes.
If a majority of the voters approve that candidate, then (s)he will be
confirmed as a new member of the CC with
I like the idea of the up arrow, it does seem to symbolize upgrading
or improving. Needs to go along with something, though.
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Étienne Bersac wrote:
As i noticed during the dapper cycle, the update-notifier icon is wrong.
It has one goal : tell the user to manually trigger update. I notice
that neither my father nor my mother nor any other membres of my family
understood that (that's almost all the clueless people i
Étienne Bersac wrote:
I don't want agressive. The red hat example is far too annoying for my
taste. And may be very disturbing. (Especially in development release, i
sometimes let updates awaiting).
The two points are :
* Icon is not consistent with panel icon. I just had an idea : a
For my part I'd like to thank Frank for holding things together across
a highly divergent and artistic crowd! We've learned a great deal, and
in the end I think the result is excellent - Edgy's art is all
community-contributed.
Please use this thread to comment on the experience of Edgy, and
Jakub Steiner wrote:
the last update finally revealed a well executed usplash. While still a
bit on the bubblegum side, it's nice and polished.
Good job!
Thanks Jakub - that's high praise indeed coming from the man who's
defined the look of so much great free software! Well done guys.
We will get an exception if Frank and his team deliver the needed
graphics. It's looking good so far. Please keep traffic on this
subject to a minimum - what's needed now is time for Frank to do his
bit.
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Reverting to Dapper would not be a great outcome - but it would be
preferable to shipping with artwork that does not meet our standards.
We've invested a huge amount of time and effort in the Edgy art
community process, and thus far we don't have a final set of images
that IMO cut the
Toby Smithe wrote:
This second clause rather contradicts the first (in the second
sentence). We have invested a huge amount of time, but you're still
prepared to waste that when people have spent their own spare time, for
free, on it?
I don't consider it a waste. We have all learned a lot
Who wrote:
Here are some brighter ones (if I go any brighter then I
will be less
true to the colours of the logo...) with the text changed as
suggested. I used 85% because 90% was undetectable - perhaps my
monitor is funny?
OK, these are looking good.
Some more comments.
*
Who wrote:
These fix those issues in a few ways
I know you said no gradients on the gloss, but I tried it the other
way around on 18 anyway as a 'see what we can see' experiement. It was
an attempt to make the text feel somehow darker but the gloss line
still visible... It took
Who wrote:
Here are the more saturated versions: I have also worked
on the style
of highlight on the text - I hope people like it now...
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Polish/Incoming?action="">
It's like a 'build your own logo' system - choose a logo and
Eric Schwenke wrote:
Sry for filling the mailing list, but in mind of some critic i have an
updatet version of my set created.
Changes: - Gloss effect like the human folder one (more consistent)
- Added a orange color version, in mind of human consistent
The Orange version looks like it
Ivan Sagalaev wrote:
While such a unification might be good from the artists point of view
it's not that good for usability. Three primary characteristics by which
humans distinguish things are form, color and pattern. These icons
eliminate form recognition (they are all round) and the
Effraie - thank you!
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...just upgrade to Edgy on my Kubuntu desktop. It's wow. A thing of
great beauty. Well done Ken.
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effraie wrote:
i'll try put them here :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/EffraiePanel
I think the panel needs to look quite different from our window borders
and dialog backgrounds. At the moment, part of the problem is that the
panel looks too similar to the menu bar, of an app, and to the
Frank Schoep wrote:
There is (also) an aesthetic problem with several applets and gadgets that can be added to the panel which ignore the panel background. Some of them look great until you hover over them, at that moment
they start looking like a push button which drops the whole facade
Michiel Sikma wrote:
That is total nonsense. It's a very good wallpaper, and I don't think
that the balance its composition currently holds should be
compromised because a design element vaguely reminds you of a logo.
That's just silly.
Michiel, please observe the code of conduct
In late July the Art Team requested that art.ubuntu.com be shut down so
that it could be replaced with "something better". It's now late
September, and nothing better has actually been delivered, so I think
it's necessary to ask the art team to turn art.ubuntu.com back on so
that the
Thanks for doing this Troy. I can appreciate that I'm difficult to
please, and it's useful at least to know what's worked in the past.
It's easiest for me to give feedback in person or at least by voice.
Can we organise a conference call for the AiC, Jmak, myself and
yourself to discuss the
Donn wrote:
With Fonty Python you can select ttf fonts and put them into "pogs" (from the
word typography). You can place fonts into pogs from a folder or from another
pog. You then install the pog you need. After that, you fire-up Inkscape (or
Gimp, or Sodipodi, or Blender etc) and
Jesse Schalken wrote:
My deepest apologies to anyone who had interpreted a previous email of
mine as offensive to the artist who had created the work in question.
Apology accepted - now let's get this artwork to rock! Jmak, you and
Troy both have excellent elements in your work. Can we
Jasper Schalken wrote:
I know I'm being blunt, but it's true. It's dark brown,
it's lumpy, and it has red and green streaks running through it. Not a
pleasant combination :P.
This is NOT constructive criticism of someone else's work! Please
choose your words more carefully in future.
In my
I far prefer the "semi-transparent" panel idea that someone posted a
little while ago. I think the Panel should have a very distinctive
look, and not be Grey at all! That goes for the Panel menu items as
well as the Panel itself.
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PingunZ wrote:
Honestly I don't like that at all, sorry.
The transparant background may look nice when no windows are open but
when there are, it looks very cheap.
What I prefer is a background image ( not-transparant ) and it should
fit the GTK theme.
I attached a screenshot of my panel. I
jmak wrote:
I have the feeling that transparency will meet with the same fate as
the flash intro. Now, it is cool and fun but it has plenty of
drawbacks. Disregarding their resource hungriness, they diminish text
legibility and in general make the desktop look more chaotic and
disorganized
Álvaro Medina Ballester wrote:
Hi!!! I'm agree with jmak and Jan, transparent panel makes
less readable everything but, yes, first impression can be cool. But if
we put it in Edgy because it's cool we're going very wrong. Let me
explain some short reasons:
1.- First of all, the gnome
Nathan Eckenrode wrote:
There is some interesting work happening over here at
http://kollabor8.toegristle.com/ I am not certain of the software which is
being used , but I think that this is the sort of idea that you are looking
for.
Yes, this is very close to what I want! I tihnk we
Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote:
Completely unrelated and out of sync to Edgy release cycle
I put up a glass panel suggestion on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/GlassPanel
I've been using it on my desktop for a few days and thought - "Hey, the
artwork team has been
Matthew Nuzum wrote:
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I am pretty uncertain as to whether the usplash can/will be made to do more
colors for edgy, so I would not hold my breath on that.
Forgive the naive question:
* Must it be a single animated image, or can it be a series of
Who wrote:
(in the course of it I changed my glossy logo, thoughts on the ones at
the ed vs the ones at the beginning?)
I like the one you selected for the GDM screens. There's a sizing
issue, where the "ubuntu" is too small relative to the logo, but the
"chiselled glass" look with the
Jakub Steiner wrote:
Howdy,
I'm not really sure if this is the right list for this request, but
there is a good chance there is the person responsible for the
ubuntuforums.org skin subscribed here. Currently the footer is
attributing the used icon artwork to Canonical Ltd. Can you please
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Just so this is clear: if anything I make is not accepted,
then this is fine. It does, however, seem very awkward to me that the
artist-in-chief specifically starts up the efforts to polish the Human
GTK theme, then applauds efforts I exert in doing just that, only for
it
Frank Schoep wrote:
One goal I set for myself was to _only_ use ideas and sketches that
came up during our collaborative brainstorming. I want the artwork
we're producing to be the sum of our collaboration to showcase what
we can do with the team, basically the end-goal of our new
Hi guys
We had a fantastic experience at LinuxWorld San Francisco last week,
with tremendous interest in the community and commercial stands for
Ubuntu at the expo. Jane briefed me on feedback from the conference,
and there were a couple of items that I think are worth passing on to
you,
Michiel Sikma wrote:
I think it's very beneficial to get this discussion going a little
bit. What do you guys think about the styles and looks?
Agreed Michiel - thanks for kicking it off!
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Just a quick note to say thanks to Frank for getting the ball rolling
on the Produce phase. Having had a look over the "Propose" phase
results I'm very, very excited! I think there are some excellent visual
themes there that will make Edgy look really distinctive.
So, to all who are
Matthew Revell wrote:
Hi guys,
Any of you fancy helping out with a Fridge story? Here are the details:
"Possible Fridge story:
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1202417,00.html
has some great data about Ubuntu and security (it would be great to see
Troy James Sobotka wrote:
That said, I believe that the opening sounds and such
are very critical to Ubuntu's development. If anyone
is interested in this facet, please contact me as I
know several sound designers from the video game /
motion picture industry who would probably love to
jmak wrote:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/JMak
Jmak, these are really gorgeous. Keep going! It would be great for you
to sync with Frank Schoep to see how you can make sure these proposals
are in sync with the timelines he has for integrating artwork in Edgy.
Mark
Matthew East wrote:
1. The Art Council should not be responsible
for granting Ubuntu
membership, because the risk is that the community won't get to know new
members or hear about good work being done in the art area, and there
is a risk of less consistency in membership appointments.
The CC
Troy James Sobotka wrote:
This is why the proposal phase is important!
At Paris it wasn't precisely clear that Mr. Shuttleworth was
hoping to resume where "Dapper" direction left off. This is
now clearer.
Thank you for taking the time to comment, we shall steer accordingly.
So folks,
jmak wrote:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/XubuntuEdgy/Proposals
Logo v3 looks cleanest to me. Very classy!
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Hi!
Troy sent me a bunch of URL's where he'd carefully pulled together
submissions from a bunch of different sources. Thanks Troy!
I'll comment on each of these briefly here on the mailing list so that
everyone can see these responses.
Troy James Sobotka wrote:
I compiled the bits that
Who wrote:
This style is based loosely on the Dapper Splash, It uses
a glossy
Ubuntu logo that still needs a fair bit of perfection, but I think the
gimping (I.E using some filters) of the glassy logo has helped
somewhat
Niklas Weidel wrote:
Regarding CMS, as Neil said, there is no shortage of
great, free CMS-systems. I've been using Joomla for example, which has
a lot of plugins that could form a basis for an easy-to-handle artwork
site.
What's short is someone to devote the time to getting the system up
Can I suggest that this list adopt a rule of etiquette, that "we won't
comment on art that is not wikified". This means that people who send
art to the list are pointed at a simple document describing how to put
that art on the wiki *and where to put it*, after which we can all
comment with a
Matthew Nuzum wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 17:32 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Niklas Weidel wrote:
Regarding CMS, as Neil said, there is no shortage of great, free
CMS-systems. I've been using Joomla for example, which has a lot of
plugins that could form
Michiel Sikma wrote:
http://thingmajig.org/tmp/abstract1.png
http://thingmajig.org/tmp/abstract1b.png (different color scheme)
Very nice Michiel!
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Could you add an overall "edgy-artwork" spec, which depends on each of
the specific targets? Also, I think its important to rename the specs
to "edgy-ubuntu-usplash", "edgy-kubuntu-login-screen" etc rather than
"ubuntu-art-foo", because we will want new specs for edgy+1.
Mark
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Joao Inacio wrote:
- How much of this "ubuntu distinctiveness" is really
needed on the
other included wallpapers (not default)?
Even though this i completely agree on the default wallpaper, from my
humble POV a few extra wallpapers that didnt quite follow the rules to
the point,
Gabriel Rodríguez Alberich wrote:
My question is: can I freely modify and redistribute the
Ubuntu Logo
as the ubuntu-artwork license says?
As Corey pointed out, there are two *different* law's that govern this.
One is copyright law. That is what talks about the art as "art", and
Michiel Sikma wrote:
They don't necessarily have to be distinctly Ubuntu, I
believe. That's up for debate. I think that nice photos that are
included by default can be abstract enough as well simply to be good
filler material. Besides, how would you make them classify as
Ubuntu-ish, anyway? Do
Étienne Bersac wrote:
For me, the branding on the Breezy background was great - it belnded
in very well with the backdrop - an generally looked 'cool'.
Agree, but it was too dark. Especially if we have window shadow.
I've no problem if there are SOME desktop wallpapers
Troy's post on compiling Inkscape made me think about an article I saw
a while back on "how to make icons that look good on OS X". It was
basically a guide to creating something in the "gel" style that Aqua
uses.
Once we are through the early stages and are converging on a particular
style
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Op 29-jun-2006, om 16:14 heeft Matthew Nuzum het volgende geschreven:
On 6/29/06, Mark Shuttleworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Étienne Bersac wrote:
For me, the branding on the Breezy background was great - it belnded
in very
Lapo Calamandrei wrote
I feel like being personally attacked when somebody talk down
tango this way.
I certainly have no desire to cause offense - sorry if that's the case.
My experience with Tango has just not been the one I want for the
default experience with Ubuntu and
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Thoughts regarding wallpaper idea would be
appreciated; http://www.weidel.se/gfx/desktop2%201400.png
The desktop colour should not be too bright, or it becomes tiring to
look at all day. We generally have chosen to go with darker, richer
colours so that there
Travis Watkins wrote:
On 6/26/06, Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[huge snip]
Just wondering: _are_ there any published guidelines and/or colour
palettes for the Human icon set? If there are, are they being
followed? One or both of these questions appears to be have
OK, I think we are making progress here!
Michiel Sikma wrote:
What I do appreciate is that Human was used in Dapper
while it was incomplete as an extra impulse to get people to complete
it. I'll definitely make it one of my things to do to point out things
which I believe are bad choices in
Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote:
Maybe you remember that a while ago I sent a mockup of a usplash-editor
to this list. Good news is that large parts of the required patch are
accepted. As Mark already said, the size/number of colors limitations
remain, but the themeability is much better now.
Niel Drummond wrote:
sorry
I removed this page (it wasn't working very well anyway).. will try and
fix it if mark and others agree to have such a thing
I think a strong palette and consistent approach are essential - but
don't want to deviate from the current Ubuntu logo colours so would
Michiel Sikma wrote:
It seems that a bunch of specs have been changed into
"obsolete" because apparently a new usplash is in the making. Exactly
what will the capabilities of this new usplash be? Is there any place
where I can follow its development or learn about Edgy planned
features? I'm
Pascal Klein wrote:
On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 11:09 +0100, j michaelson wrote:
hi pascal,
could you clarify what you meant by...
"Mark Shuttleworth has stated that the artist in chief will not
selected not elected."
Apologies. That should read:
"Mark S
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Op 22-jun-2006, om 9:48 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende
geschreven:
Michiel Sikma wrote:
I've been thinking about how to retain
consistency between different types of Ubuntu (Kubuntu, Xubuntu,
Edubuntu). Perhaps we could simply make sure
j michaelson wrote:
would it be worth having an ubuntu pallette made for
inkscape users or
is everything being switched over to the tango pallette now?
No, we are not switching to the Tango palette, so it would be awesome
to have the official Ubuntu Human palette in there!
Mark
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Niel Drummond wrote:
mailing list since the release of Draper. I've put it up here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Drafts
This sounds awesome - I'm on the road though so don't often have web
access, could you send that to me as an attachment, please? Thanks!
It's really great to
Étienne Bersac wrote:
We must actually define what we work on. We need a page or a bunch of
pages that define each part of Ubuntu artwork and document the way we
have to work with it. e.g. a page for BootSplash theme pointing to a
documentation for USplash theming. I start writing a kind of
Michiel Sikma wrote:
I've
been on the Ubuntu Artwork team for a little while now. It was fun
talking to everybody on the mailing list here and exciting to see my
proposal for usplash used in Dapper. I can't wait to begin seriously
contributing to Edgy and discussing how we should make it look
Jimmy Angelakos wrote:
I know this is a very busy time, but I was wondering, would you
consider it to be a good or bad idea to include Human themes for
Firefox and Thunderbird in Ubuntu (and perhaps install them by default
with the application)? As we're striving to identify Ubuntu with the
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Huh. How can the themes not be included correctly when
there are only two days left before launch?
That was why we asked for a community decision may 15th, not May 24th
:-)
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Michiel Sikma wrote:
Op 29-mei-2006, om 15:17 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het
volgende geschreven:
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Huh. How can the themes not be included
correctly when there are only two days left before launch?
That was why we asked for a community decision may
I did ask the admin of the previous launchpad artwork team to add other
people as admins. It never got done (joelM!!!) so have done it myself
now. No need to create a whole new team, that's just confusing!
I have also changed the default subscription and renewal period to be
365 days - it
Launchpad teams can have a default "membership length" and "renewal
length". When JoelM created this team, for some reason he set this to
30 days, and 0 days, respectivley. So you were all going to expire as
members in June. Not very useful. So I just updated the periods to 365
days
Who wrote:
I think this weekend would be ideal IF Mark feels he can
make it
(Mark...?) - but because we had directino for doing it AFTER Dapper I
ahve suggested these dates. If someone feels strongly that this
weekend would be better then just add to the wiki...
June 3/4 is good
Michiel Sikma wrote:
For now, let's just be happy that we were able to choose
on a couple of good themes and churn out good usplash proposals. This
kind of collaboration and activity is good.
Yes - there have been flashes of brilliance in the team that suggest,
with a bit of leadership, we
Billy wrote:
Seems to me that the team isn't the problem at all. Seems people don't
want to make a move without your concent, because everything they
initiate is shot down in flames, and they have no say it the things
that really matter. How can community prevail?
Billy - I'm trying
Kenneth Wimer wrote:
I made an SVG based on Viper550's work; played around a
bit adding more gradients and also a bit of a 3d effect. I added it to
the wiki page, even though it is not really a new design (thought it
would be better there than posting it here).
Oh, and in my pic the
Lukas Sabota wrote:
Hello!
There are a few icons that are displayed on the default desktop. I'll
list them here:
Applications
Mozilla-Firefox
Evolution
Log out
Show Desktop
Trash
My idea is to theme some of these icons orange. Here is a suggestion
for each of these:
Applications -
Troy James Sobotka wrote:
I took some initiative and thumbnailed all of the work
at the usplash proposal portion of the Wiki.
Thanks Troy, that's a great bit of organisation and makes the options
that much clearer!
Can I ask that we go through the options and delete (permanently) those
Michiel Sikma wrote:
I don't get why you would want that. All that happens with
the scaling is the image being squished and then later stretched back
to normal. The only effect would be a loss in quality; not a loss in
proportions or composition. I don't see why you would want to maintain
two
Who wrote:
What next? I couldn't see how to make a poll on Launchpad...
Who
If you go there, NOT logged in, it states..
"log in as Admin and set up a poll" (or similar)
Does anyone here have such magical powers _and_ some time?
I cc'd
Lukas Sabota wrote:
I've been doing a lot of nay-saying with the current state of Human,
but I have been doing very little about it. I am interested in getting
started on some basic graphic design. Perhaps I can contribute more for
edgy or edgy+1. Could anyone recommend a online guide
Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote:
Can we please put an end to all this negativism I've been
witness to on this list lately (not especially from you Étienne, but
generally). I think Mark has been pretty clear about the Human policy,
and persistent negativism is not likely to change his
We have struggled to get a good workflow in place between the artist
leading Human and the packaging team. You can see the latest delivery
from the Human folks here:
http://daniel.holba.ch/ubuntu/iconcall/
You will see many icons there that have not yet successfully landed in
the
Étienne Bersac wrote:
At last ! Thanks for this preview of the development state. I'm happy to
see new devices and trash icons and other improvement. Human
definitively does not blend with neither Tango nor Tangerine.
It's not designed to. It uses its own perspective. It's designed to
Andreas Nilsson wrote:
I think it would be very bad to maintain the
old gtk icons for
apply,cancel,yes,no,etc, but it also would be bad to use the red icon
for tabs.
Firefox uses a red [x] by default for tab closure.
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Michiel Sikma wrote:
Will the original Human theme (not the new one made for
Dapper) be shipped with Dapper for those who aren't willing to make the
change? If not yet, then I suggest that one. It's a great theme,
afterall.
Then nominate it, and vote for it!
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I really like the work you have done Frank but I would like to see both
Human and Tangerine versions! The folder for Human is quite different
to Tangerine. Since Human will be the default theme on Dapper it would
be better to have this consistent.
Here you can visually see both Human (first
These are very classy, particularly the smooth-blended one. Pascal, can
you organise a good process to pick two or three? Or does someone else
want to do that if Pascal is still in the leadup to exams? These are
great themes and I think Dapper could benefit by cleaning out some of
the current
bvc wrote:
How did we go from three to TWO?
I'm talking about external themes (things that exist in the Gnome
world, like Gorilla and Mist etc which are high quality but not part of
the Ubuntu project). At the moment we have a couple of themes in there
as options by default, but I think you
I just did a virgin Dapper install, and the existing themes are by
default pretty weak:
- the high contrast ones we need for accessibility (though they could
be installed with the accessibility metapackage that is going to be
done, Henrik is working on that IIRC)
- Mist, Smokey, Ocean
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote:
That's
not quite what we were planning. The high contrast themes were moved
into the desktop seed because they can then be run easily from the Live
CD with the F5 options. Also keep in mind that for a person with weak
vision it can be very difficult to find the right
This is a very cool bit of work from Frank Schoep over on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] that I think might be of interest to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Very late for such a pervasive change BUT 15MB is not to be sniffed at.
Frank Schoep wrote:
Hi all,
I've been fiddling around with the Dapper beta release
Welcome aboard!
Joseph Hill wrote:
The only
change I don't like is the wireless signal meter on the Network Monitor
applet. I have two wireless cards and use only one toolbar, so panel
real estate is very valuable.
Yes, this is a bug, the fix is due in the next icon package upload
which
Lukas Sabota wrote:
Community guys - Tangerine is looking great! Let's focus on priorities
6-8 in the http://daniel.holba.ch/ubuntu/ic/ list, so we can maximise
the total effective coverage of Human/Tango icons.
Mark, will tangerine be installed by default? I would hope so,
Manu Cornet wrote:
I've just sent the patch to Sébastien by email, if he is satisfied with
it it should hit the repository in the next dew days :)
Thanks Manu this is fine work indeed!
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Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
I've made a few new mockups:
http://stellingwerff.com/ubuntu-art/sb.png (svg:
http://stellingwerff.com/ubuntu-art/sb.svg)
All of these have rounded scrollbar tips AND rounded steppers. I'm
looking for a mockup that does not change the steppers, but does
Javier Aravena C. wrote:
El mar, 04-04-2006 a las 11:24 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth escribió:
The icons are very much a work in progress. See Daniel's excellent
page for the full set, and priorities, and know that we will get to
everything with priority 8, 9 and 10.
Mark
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