Members of the Ubuntu community,
We have 5 nominations to expand the community council, and voting starts
today.
Each candidate is standing individually, so there are 5 separate votes.
If a majority of the voters approve that candidate, then (s)he will be
confirmed as a new member of the CC with
Lapo Calamandrei wrote:
What about something like these?
Lapo
*Really* like the arrows, the orange one suits me better but I could
live with the red one too.
Ken?
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I like the idea of the up arrow, it does seem to symbolize "upgrading"
or "improving". Needs to go along with something, though.
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Étienne Bersac wrote:
> I don't want agressive. The red hat example is far too annoying for my
> taste. And may be very disturbing. (Especially in development release, i
> sometimes let updates awaiting).
>
> The two points are :
>
> * Icon is not consistent with panel icon. I just had an id
Étienne Bersac wrote:
> As i noticed during the dapper cycle, the update-notifier icon is wrong.
> It has one goal : tell the user to manually trigger update. I notice
> that neither my father nor my mother nor any other membres of my family
> understood that (that's almost all the clueless people
For my part I'd like to thank Frank for holding things together across
a highly divergent and artistic crowd! We've learned a great deal, and
in the end I think the result is excellent - Edgy's art is all
community-contributed.
Please use this thread to comment on the experience of Edgy, and
Jakub Steiner wrote:
the last update finally revealed a well executed usplash. While still a
bit on the bubblegum side, it's nice and polished.
Good job!
Thanks Jakub - that's high praise indeed coming from the man who's
defined the look of so much great free software! Well done guys.
We will get an exception if Frank and his team deliver the needed
graphics. It's looking good so far. Please keep traffic on this
subject to a minimum - what's needed now is time for Frank to do his
bit.
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Toby Smithe wrote:
This second clause rather contradicts the first (in the second
sentence). We have invested a huge amount of time, but you're still
prepared to waste that when people have spent their own spare time, for
free, on it?
I don't consider it a waste. We have all learned a lot a
Reverting to Dapper would not be a great outcome - but it would be
preferable to shipping with artwork that does not meet our standards.
We've invested a huge amount of time and effort in the Edgy art
community process, and thus far we don't have a final set of images
that IMO cut the mustard.
Who wrote:
These fix those issues in a few ways
I know you said no gradients on the gloss, but I tried it the other
way around on 18 anyway as a 'see what we can see' experiement. It was
an attempt to make the text feel somehow darker but the gloss line
still visible... It took 3
Who wrote:
Here are some brighter ones (if I go any brighter then I
will be less
true to the colours of the logo...) with the text changed as
suggested. I used 85% because 90% was undetectable - perhaps my
monitor is funny?
OK, these are looking good.
Some more comments.
* don't
Who wrote:
Here are the more saturated versions: I have also worked
on the style
of highlight on the text - I hope people like it now...
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Polish/Incoming?action="">
It's like a 'build your own logo' system - choose a logo and a
The edging here is much better. I can't wait to see them without the
blowout white!
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Ivan Sagalaev wrote:
While such a unification might be good from the artists point of view
it's not that good for usability. Three primary characteristics by which
humans distinguish things are form, color and pattern. These icons
eliminate form recognition (they are all round) and the or
Eric Schwenke wrote:
I don't understand completely the question, but I'll do my best to
answer. I have created these set to have a new human like style for the
emblems in these dialog (attached). The idea for this, comes from the
small orange circle with a house, on the bottom of the "home f
Eric Schwenke wrote:
Sry for filling the mailing list, but in mind of some critic i have an
updatet version of my set created.
Changes: - Gloss effect like the human folder one (more consistent)
- Added a orange color version, in mind of human consistent
The Orange version looks like it
Jesse Schalken wrote:
Could we have the icons abide by the Tango specification? I think they
need that 'double dark-light border' that allows them to be visible
against any background, but otherwise they are perfect.
Tango is not the default schema for Ubuntu.
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Effraie - thank you!
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That's nice Viper, but it's completely different to the directions I've
given Frank and the art team to focus on for the Edgy release.
Please everybody, let's focus this list ONLY on the pieces we are
creating for the default theme of the Edgy release. If you want to
help, please read the pag
Viper550 wrote:
Andrea Cimitan wrote:
I would like to ask someone to add murrine engine into *at least*
universe, because supporting for free the ubuntu community is becoming
a little difficult for me since at the moment I haven't an ubuntu box
on my pc (so i can't package).
...just upgrade to Edgy on my Kubuntu desktop. It's wow. A thing of
great beauty. Well done Ken.
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Frank Schoep wrote:
There is (also) an aesthetic problem with several applets and gadgets that can be added to the panel which ignore the panel background. Some of them look great until you hover over them, at that moment
they start looking like a push button which drops the whole facade of
effraie wrote:
i'll try put them here :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/EffraiePanel
I think the panel needs to look quite different from our window borders
and dialog backgrounds. At the moment, part of the problem is that the
panel looks too similar to the menu bar, of an app, and to the in
In late July the Art Team requested that art.ubuntu.com be shut down so
that it could be replaced with "something better". It's now late
September, and nothing better has actually been delivered, so I think
it's necessary to ask the art team to turn art.ubuntu.com back on so
that the community
Michiel Sikma wrote:
That is total nonsense. It's a very good wallpaper, and I don't think
that the balance its composition currently holds should be
compromised because a design element vaguely reminds you of a logo.
That's just silly.
Michiel, please observe the code of conduct i
Thanks for doing this Troy. I can appreciate that I'm difficult to
please, and it's useful at least to know what's worked in the past.
It's easiest for me to give feedback in person or at least by voice.
Can we organise a conference call for the AiC, Jmak, myself and
yourself to discuss the s
Jesse Schalken wrote:
My deepest apologies to anyone who had interpreted a previous email of
mine as offensive to the artist who had created the work in question.
Apology accepted - now let's get this artwork to rock! Jmak, you and
Troy both have excellent elements in your work. Can we g
Donn wrote:
With Fonty Python you can select ttf fonts and put them into "pogs" (from the
word typography). You can place fonts into pogs from a folder or from another
pog. You then install the pog you need. After that, you fire-up Inkscape (or
Gimp, or Sodipodi, or Blender etc) and thos
Jasper Schalken wrote:
I know I'm being blunt, but it's true. It's dark brown,
it's lumpy, and it has red and green streaks running through it. Not a
pleasant combination :P.
This is NOT constructive criticism of someone else's work! Please
choose your words more carefully in future.
In my op
Álvaro Medina Ballester wrote:
Hi!!! I'm agree with jmak and Jan, transparent panel makes
less readable everything but, yes, first impression can be cool. But if
we put it in Edgy because it's cool we're going very wrong. Let me
explain some short reasons:
1.- First of all, the gnome pa
jmak wrote:
I have the feeling that transparency will meet with the same fate as
the flash intro. Now, it is cool and fun but it has plenty of
drawbacks. Disregarding their resource hungriness, they diminish text
legibility and in general make the desktop look more chaotic and
disorganized
PingunZ wrote:
Honestly I don't like that at all, sorry.
The transparant background may look nice when no windows are open but
when there are, it looks very cheap.
What I prefer is a background image ( not-transparant ) and it should
fit the GTK theme.
I attached a screenshot of my panel. I
I far prefer the "semi-transparent" panel idea that someone posted a
little while ago. I think the Panel should have a very distinctive
look, and not be Grey at all! That goes for the Panel menu items as
well as the Panel itself.
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Nathan Eckenrode wrote:
There is some interesting work happening over here at
http://kollabor8.toegristle.com/ I am not certain of the software which is
being used , but I think that this is the sort of idea that you are looking
for.
Yes, this is very close to what I want! I tihnk we nee
The thread on shifting to the Forums made me think a little about the
value of good supporting tools.
The wiki is absolutely not optimal for a lot of what the artwork team
needs to do. For example, there is just no support for revisioning
*images* over time. I would like to be able to watch a
Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote:
Completely unrelated and out of sync to Edgy release cycle
I put up a glass panel suggestion on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/GlassPanel
I've been using it on my desktop for a few days and thought - "Hey, the
artwork team has been goin
Matthew Nuzum wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am pretty uncertain as to whether the usplash can/will be made to do more
colors for edgy, so I would not hold my breath on that.
Forgive the naive question:
* Must it be a single animated image, or can it be a series of i
Who wrote:
(in the course of it I changed my glossy logo, thoughts on the ones at
the ed vs the ones at the beginning?)
I like the one you selected for the GDM screens. There's a sizing
issue, where the "ubuntu" is too small relative to the logo, but the
"chiselled glass" look with the
Jakub Steiner wrote:
Howdy,
I'm not really sure if this is the right list for this request, but
there is a good chance there is the person responsible for the
ubuntuforums.org skin subscribed here. Currently the footer is
attributing the used icon artwork to Canonical Ltd. Can you please hav
After the correspondence between Michiel and I on the list, Frank
mailed me to point out this page which gives a fuller picture of the
discussion that has happened so far.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/PolishHumanGTKTheme/Incoming
Overall I'm very impressed with the commentary there
Hi Daniel
Now that we have an effort underway to produce high quality sounds for
Edgy, I wonder if we shouldn't set things up so that a sound is played
on boot, when ALSA is loaded and configured?
Daniel, would you look into that? I think it should be a configurable
sound (for people willing
Michiel Sikma wrote:
I do think it is very powerful, and if the drop down menu
is kept, perhaps we can think about making it appear in the same style
as the rest of the design instead of consisting of a default drop down
menu as any would be rendered. The bottom part of the screen is brown
and
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Just so this is clear: if anything I make is not accepted,
then this is fine. It does, however, seem very awkward to me that the
artist-in-chief specifically starts up the efforts to polish the Human
GTK theme, then applauds efforts I exert in doing just that, only for
it t
Michiel Sikma wrote:
It's a little unfortunate that the "shut down", "restart",
etc. buttons are now in a drop-down box, which I think kind of seems
out of place when opened. I'd rather have those buttons on the GDM
screen itself, like Breezy did.
We made that change explicitly to simplify the
Michiel Sikma wrote:
This is ridiculous. So even though it was asked by Frank to polish
the Human GTK theme, going as far as to start a wikipage dedicated to
it and advertising it on the mailing list (and not minding the fact
that I did so afterwards), apparently we're now dropping it
Frank Schoep wrote:
One goal I set for myself was to _only_ use ideas and sketches that
came up during our collaborative brainstorming. I want the artwork
we're producing to be the sum of our collaboration to showcase what
we can do with the team, basically the end-goal of our new proc
Hi guys
We had a fantastic experience at LinuxWorld San Francisco last week,
with tremendous interest in the community and commercial stands for
Ubuntu at the expo. Jane briefed me on feedback from the conference,
and there were a couple of items that I think are worth passing on to
you, becau
Michiel Sikma wrote:
I think it's very beneficial to get this discussion going a little
bit. What do you guys think about the styles and looks?
Agreed Michiel - thanks for kicking it off!
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Title: R: [ubuntu-art] [TT-Tropic] New Version + Open Casting Call
for SplashScreens!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Want anything more from my engine?
Another problem is that murrine isn't in official repos...
It should at the very least be in universe. I'm sure Frank Schoep wil
Just a quick note to say thanks to Frank for getting the ball rolling
on the Produce phase. Having had a look over the "Propose" phase
results I'm very, very excited! I think there are some excellent visual
themes there that will make Edgy look really distinctive.
So, to all who are participa
That's excellent. I think it would be worth chatting to the Kubuntu
folks if you think that those samples might evolve in the direction of
ubuntu or kubuntu equally.
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I listened to the excellent samples this evening, and wanted to mail
the list with some comments.
First, super work. Nice to have such a range of options initially, to
get a feel for them. Some I think feel more "kubuntu" and some more
"ubuntu", so I definitely think it's worth integrating so
Felipe Fidelix wrote:
please! after i install my GeForce and configure Xorg in Kubuntu Dapper, X
starts and everything blows up.
a BLACK SCREEN appear, and all devices like mouse, and keyboard stops
working.
what should i do??
You need to reconfigure your system for the new car
Matthew Revell wrote:
Hi guys,
Any of you fancy helping out with a Fridge story? Here are the details:
"Possible Fridge story:
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1202417,00.html
has some great data about Ubuntu and security (it would be great to see
so
Frank Schoep wrote:
The full overview of Theme Teams is available on the
following Wiki page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/ThemeTeams
The Theme Teams will now start working on their themes and I've gotten
a few requests on using the main artwork mailing list fo
Troy James Sobotka wrote:
That said, I believe that the opening sounds and such
are very critical to Ubuntu's development. If anyone
is interested in this facet, please contact me as I
know several sound designers from the video game /
motion picture industry who would probably love to
hel
These ideas are nice, and it would be good to see them getting wider
discussion, but the most important thing is to ensure that we are
getting the right sorts of ideas at the right stage of the process.
I know everyone wants to jump to the END point, and see the final
finished goods. But righ
jmak wrote:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/JMak
Jmak, these are really gorgeous. Keep going! It would be great for you
to sync with Frank Schoep to see how you can make sure these proposals
are in sync with the timelines he has for integrating artwork in Edgy.
Mark
Matthew East wrote:
1. The Art Council should not be responsible
for granting Ubuntu
membership, because the risk is that the community won't get to know new
members or hear about good work being done in the art area, and there
is a risk of less consistency in membership appointments.
The CC
Troy James Sobotka wrote:
This is why the proposal phase is important!
At Paris it wasn't precisely clear that Mr. Shuttleworth was
hoping to resume where "Dapper" direction left off. This is
now clearer.
Thank you for taking the time to comment, we shall steer accordingly.
So folks, ta
Who wrote:
This style is based loosely on the Dapper Splash, It uses
a glossy
Ubuntu logo that still needs a fair bit of perfection, but I think the
gimping (I.E using some filters) of the glassy logo has helped
somewhat
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/GDMP
Hi!
Troy sent me a bunch of URL's where he'd carefully pulled together
submissions from a bunch of different sources. Thanks Troy!
I'll comment on each of these briefly here on the mailing list so that
everyone can see these responses.
Troy James Sobotka wrote:
I compiled the bits that ot
jmak wrote:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/XubuntuEdgy/Proposals
Logo v3 looks cleanest to me. Very classy!
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Niklas Weidel wrote:
Regarding the metallic/brown wallpapers, with the circle
device - anyone have any ideas for another graphic element to use
there, seeing as we don't want branded wallpapers?
The *default* wallpaper should be unbranded, though the use only of the
logo-device is not as bad a
Niklas Weidel wrote:
Three new wallpaper sketches added to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/WallpaperProposal
Very classy work, Niklas! I particularly liked the metallic and brown
wallpapers (with the large circle-of-friends device).
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Viper550 wrote:
As you
know, I am working on a new theme which will be included in Edgy called
Tropic (blah blah blah, let's get to the good stuff)...
Just a small clarification, I think the Art Council will choose which
themes are included in Edgy. Troy, could you add a deadline for that
deci
Matthew Nuzum wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 17:32 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Niklas Weidel wrote:
Regarding CMS, as Neil said, there is no shortage of great, free
CMS-systems. I've been using Joomla for example, which has a lot of
plugins that could f
Jerome Gotangco wrote:
The early discussions (when we were like 2 or 3 admins for
the said
site) before the art team finally got things rolling was move it to
moin like all the other ubuntu sites to make it easier for community
to upload their stuff as well as use the existing LP infra
Can I suggest that this list adopt a rule of etiquette, that "we won't
comment on art that is not wikified". This means that people who send
art to the list are pointed at a simple document describing how to put
that art on the wiki *and where to put it*, after which we can all
comment with a
Niklas Weidel wrote:
Regarding CMS, as Neil said, there is no shortage of
great, free CMS-systems. I've been using Joomla for example, which has
a lot of plugins that could form a basis for an easy-to-handle artwork
site.
What's short is someone to devote the time to getting the system up a
Michiel Sikma wrote:
http://thingmajig.org/tmp/abstract1.png
http://thingmajig.org/tmp/abstract1b.png (different color scheme)
Very nice Michiel!
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Could you add an overall "edgy-artwork" spec, which depends on each of
the specific targets? Also, I think its important to rename the specs
to "edgy-ubuntu-usplash", "edgy-kubuntu-login-screen" etc rather than
"ubuntu-art-foo", because we will want new specs for edgy+1.
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Gabriel Rodríguez Alberich wrote:
My question is: can I freely modify and redistribute the
Ubuntu Logo
as the ubuntu-artwork license says?
As Corey pointed out, there are two *different* law's that govern this.
One is copyright law. That is what talks about the art as "art", and
determi
Niklas Weidel wrote:
How about upgrading the shipment to offer DVD-versions? It
would allow for some serious improvements in both shipped software as
well as configurability, extras and tutorials. And there's not one
computer shipped today that is without a dvd-reader, and keep a dieted
CD-vers
Hi folks
At some stage I think we will need to split this list into a variety of
more focused lists. I would propose:
- ubuntu-art (this list) for high-level direction, art council
discussions, policy that affects all *buntu.
- ubuntu-theme-human for ongoing work to improve the current defa
Joao Inacio wrote:
- How much of this "ubuntu distinctiveness" is really
needed on the
other included wallpapers (not default)?
Even though this i completely agree on the default wallpaper, from my
humble POV a few extra wallpapers that didnt quite follow the rules to
the point,
Michiel Sikma wrote:
They don't necessarily have to be distinctly Ubuntu, I
believe. That's up for debate. I think that nice photos that are
included by default can be abstract enough as well simply to be good
filler material. Besides, how would you make them classify as
Ubuntu-ish, anyway? Do
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Op 30-jun-2006, om 0:22 heeft Étienne Bersac het volgende geschreven:
Hello,
www.neuronioenlatado.com.br/ubuntu/eft1920x1280.png
That would be nice to ship wallpaper in such high resolution.
Especially
for widescreen for 1650x10
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Op 29-jun-2006, om 16:14 heeft Matthew Nuzum het volgende geschreven:
On 6/29/06, Mark Shuttleworth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Étienne Bersac wrote:
For me, the branding on the Breezy background was great - it belnded
Troy's post on compiling Inkscape made me think about an article I saw
a while back on "how to make icons that look good on OS X". It was
basically a guide to creating something in the "gel" style that Aqua
uses.
Once we are through the early stages and are converging on a particular
style it
Étienne Bersac wrote:
For me, the branding on the Breezy background was great - it belnded
in very well with the backdrop - an generally looked 'cool'.
Agree, but it was too dark. Especially if we have window shadow.
I've no problem if there are SOME desktop wallpapers in
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Thoughts regarding wallpaper idea would be
appreciated; http://www.weidel.se/gfx/desktop2%201400.png
The desktop colour should not be too bright, or it becomes tiring to
look at all day. We generally have chosen to go with darker, richer
colours so that there is
Lapo Calamandrei wrote
I feel like being personally attacked when somebody talk down
tango this way.
I certainly have no desire to cause offense - sorry if that's the case.
My experience with Tango has just not been the one I want for the
default experience with Ubuntu and Kubuntu
Niklas Weidel wrote:
Just a small thought for the edgy-schedule; the headings
could be a bit more obvious, for example there's "Ponder" two time in a
row. It's not very obvious, at least to me, that the second of these is
meant to represent the end of that activity. It would be wiser to label
t
OK, I think we are making progress here!
Michiel Sikma wrote:
What I do appreciate is that Human was used in Dapper
while it was incomplete as an extra impulse to get people to complete
it. I'll definitely make it one of my things to do to point out things
which I believe are bad choices in H
Travis Watkins wrote:
On 6/26/06, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[huge snip]
Just wondering: _are_ there any published guidelines and/or colour
palettes for the Human icon set? If there are, are they being
followed? One or both of these questions appears to b
Artists!
Based on conversations on this list, as well as meetings and
interviews, I would like to announce the appointment of Frank Schoep
(Ubuntu) and Ken Wimer (Kubuntu) as "Artists in Chief" for Edgy Eft.
They report to me, in the sense that I will approve their high level
direction, but th
Michiel Sikma wrote:
I don't think it's just my opinion that differs. As I've
mentioned before, I've got valid criticism for the Human icon set. I
simply believe it to be inferior to Tangerine/Tango for various reasons.
Michiel, Human is incomplete. It's your choice as to whether or not you
wa
Michiel Sikma wrote:
I don't understand why it is so pertinently important to
keep Human in. In all objectivity, it's simply a suboptimal icon set
when compared to Tango. I also don't see why any of the arguments that
I have given have to be ignored. Like I stated, Human doesn't seem to
follow
Niel Drummond wrote:
Do you know if it is a scheduled improvement to Launchpad to have spec
names changeable after creation ?
Funny, I just changed the way we do that in one of my development
branches. They are currently changeable by the administrators and by
the owner of the product o
Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote:
Maybe you remember that a while ago I sent a mockup of a usplash-editor
to this list. Good news is that large parts of the required patch are
accepted. As Mark already said, the size/number of colors limitations
remain, but the themeability is much better now.
Michiel Sikma wrote:
It seems that a bunch of specs have been changed into
"obsolete" because apparently a new usplash is in the making. Exactly
what will the capabilities of this new usplash be? Is there any place
where I can follow its development or learn about Edgy planned
features? I'm int
Niel Drummond wrote:
Some comments on what is being implemented:
a) Launchpad names are of the form "ubuntu-art-mydescription"
Since the specs are attached to the ubuntu distro, there's no need for
the ubuntu- part of those names. Just art-mydescription would do!
Launchpad specs
Étienne Bersac wrote:
Do you mean that ubuntu-art on launchpad will loss every non core team
members ? And let's involved contributors being recognize before joining
the team ?
I think the best implementation will be:
- create the "art council" (the folks to whom we will delegate this
Niel Drummond wrote:
sorry
I removed this page (it wasn't working very well anyway).. will try and
fix it if mark and others agree to have such a thing
I think a strong palette and consistent approach are essential - but
don't want to deviate from the current Ubuntu logo colours so would as
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Op 22-jun-2006, om 9:48 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende
geschreven:
Michiel Sikma wrote:
I've been thinking about how to retain
consistency between different types of Ubuntu (Kubuntu, Xubuntu,
Edubuntu). Perhaps we could simply make sure tha
Michiel Sikma wrote:
I've
been thinking about how to retain consistency between different types
of Ubuntu (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu). Perhaps we could simply make
sure that the default themes that exist for the different distros are
somewhat universal?
For instance, Kubuntu could have a
Pascal Klein wrote:
On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 11:09 +0100, j michaelson wrote:
hi pascal,
could you clarify what you meant by...
"Mark Shuttleworth has stated that the artist in chief will not
selected not elected."
Apologies. That should read:
"Mark S
j michaelson wrote:
would it be worth having an ubuntu pallette made for
inkscape users or
is everything being switched over to the tango pallette now?
No, we are not switching to the Tango palette, so it would be awesome
to have the official Ubuntu Human palette in there!
Mark
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