d design and will likely hang
around in #ubuntu-artwork. My mailbox is open, especially concerning the
Xubuntu and Edubuntu wallpapers.
My deep respect to Vish, Saleel and Sergey, who kept me here a bit longer.
Now I will immediately unsubscribe and leave the team.
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? (I sometimes do, but tend not to, if I'm damn sure)
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n the backside dance around way too much.
Centered text combined with bullet points is rarely a good idea.
The big "ubuntu box" is close to being lined up with the small boxes on
the spine area, but not quite. This makes that part of the layout appear
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ed on your own setup.
That xrandr script doesn't work here and I'm not willing to switch
driver, so no development in that direction. Thanks for digging it out,
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but
that must be clearly stated in the projects list at least.
After a quick check with Iain and Ivanka: It shall be photos and
drawings for the Showcase, not (necessarily) wallpaper format. Iain will
update the Showcase wiki page.
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The format of the Specs page can be discussed.
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's very
> discouraging to see results of your hard work removed without a trace,
> so any removals must be very deliberate, too.
Sheesh, I removed a table full of duplicated information and it could be
brought back easily. I did bring back content that had been displaced
without asking
letting me do that).
And again with the "b" (xubuntu_natty_alpha2_context_b_resolutions) dir.
(https://launchpad.net/backtestground)
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On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 20:09 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 10:35 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Having both
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Tasks
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs
> > is bad, as keeping t
;, there also was some weird name for
> tiling.
Those other options don't make much sense to me, as the results will
always destroy the composition of a wallpaper and/or look horrible in
another way.
So I'm not going to implement that, but would accept a branch to merge
from. :)
n to make the h,v,f,o flags available and added you
to AUTHORS. Included with v0.4:
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ed an error'"
Then does execute extract-background-context successfully, but also
prints 'Backtestground returned an error'.
Perhaps I will rewrite this as Python script.
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lled" > /dev/stderr && exit 1
, note the "; rm on_white.png on_black.png"
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hy).
> It works only for GNOME, can be ported to other DEs if anyone tells me
> how to change wallpapers there.
That's the reason I didn't take care of it, sticking to the part that
works in any case ;)
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do a coding
contest, too, without defining requirements and to then throw away all
but one submission?
Please read:
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evaluate wallpaper submissions.
These resources should be added to the specs.
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y setup", doesn't that mean one that seems
familiar to those who used a certain other application before?
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ething like workplaces where your panels are
> arranged in layouts which you can load and save them and have one
> simpler to illustrator.
> or even like education about the programs
http://en.flossmanuals.net/Inkscape
http://inkscape.org/doc/index.php
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On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 22:20 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2011/01/15/backtestground-0-2/
In case you tried it and it didn't work at all: I fixed 2 issues today,
making it a 0.3 now. The PPA should update automatically, of course.
Maybe some day I will lear
Hi!
The collection of templates and tools for designing and evaluating
wallpapers goes into the second round, this time with a proper release,
PPA, tarball, man pages. Read more at:
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Hi!
Having both
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Tasks
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs
is bad, as keeping them up to date would be a waste of time.
One should go.
I originally added the Tasks page to list what is now at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/TasksOld
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u contest.
Well, the Flickr pool is mentioned at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork#Places
and this is on the same level.
Feel encouraged to add a note there.
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Hi again!
The pools are growing:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-6/
http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-7
http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-8
Attention: you get to see more images, if you log into Flickr (currently
3 more for Edubuntu, 6 for Xubuntu and 1 for Lubuntu)!
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Hi!
There's some activity at
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=205084&page=1
Help with providing feedback and guidance appreciated, especially from
members of the Xubuntu team.
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On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 23:07 +0300, Сергей wrote:
> Concepts going beyond
> visual design into functionality are better handled by the Ayatana
> project<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana>
This is explicitly on our task list and it's all about visual design.
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On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 11:34 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> I think we should invite users of Blender, Processing and any other
> free/open graphics applications and generative tools. Same for members
> of communities centering on illustration/drawing/photography.
>
> Please
terial to create one? A photo of such
a figure on a book arranged to match the illustration would great.
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On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 14:31 +0200, giannhs qwertyuiop wrote:
> i want to stop this ubuntu mail..
Go to:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Click the "Unsubscribe or edit options" button.
Enter your address and password, "Login",
then you can Unsubscrib
hnBaer/Specs/Alternate_Natty_Wallpapers
As long as you point to 5 different Flickr groups (that you all created
already, without any discussion), that page has no place in the Artwork
section.
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ied to a release.
I still think ending up with a choice of quality wallpapers for Edubuntu
and Xubuntu will be a step forward, already.
I expect that at least one person (ideally at least 2, one as fallback),
volunteers for packaging beforehand. If no one takes ownership, you can
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turns out, and
> then decide if any of these wallpapers make their way into default
> installation.
Exactly for this reason the submissions should be in the pool, where the
jury will see them in any case.
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dwarfed by the number of
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oard.
> >
> >
> Again, who will make that decision and how will it be executed
> ( poll ) ?
I'm against the part of your proposal that specifies separate Flickr
pools. Except if Ivanka agrees to have the jury look there, too (I doubt
it).
Either you react accordingly, or w
ty_Wallpapers ] , pending discussion."
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nu-bar) to the window background
color is not nice. There should be either no visible step, or a clearly
intended difference.
The difference in contrast between focused window titles and menu text
seems odd to me. Focused vs unfocused is a bit subtle.
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Consider a more stylized figure.
> Edubuntu wallpapers:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/leogg/5227980505/in/pool-1595...@n22/
The astronaut feels like a random addition to me. If you want to keep
him or her, consider to unify the style with the one of the tree and
planet.
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actical" :
> * We want a nice artwork ...
> * ... with no big requirement
> * ... which render good and fast
That's not practical, that is not taking control, it's wallowing in
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Forwarded forwarded mail with permission :)
Message transféré
De: Julien Lavergne
À: John Baer
Cc: mariobehl...@googlemail.com, 神癒礁湖 · Rafael Laguna
Sujet: Re: Lubuntu Spec
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:05:00 +0100
Hi John,
Le mercredi 08 décembre 2010 à 13:24 -0500, John Baer a
nd.py-20101129203610-2qs5uqs0470whggp-1/sizes
Blog post edited accordingly
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eep it short : "1 Feb 2010" / "2010, 1 Feb"
No mixed order, please.
I'm not opposed to "1 February 2010". It won't be me going through all
specs to adjust the format. If nobody does, "2010-01-01" will remain the
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x27;t import my GPG key and already having my
SSH key there, using it with bzr all the time, made me think that would
be it.
But now I have to look into the -o issue, first.
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And then we would have the question which format using names, exactly?
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Aside of that, consider to add your voice and contributions here, too,
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iers and
filling local needs, though doing it in a more visible way could make
the Ubuntu artwork realm more attractive.
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o ask you where the much higher number of submissions
you mentioned came from.)
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at ISO format, it had to me
getting it wrong, of course :}
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care about personal favorites. I care about what the logo should
say, that it does say it, that it shows craftsmanship in execution.
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ically.
As already discussed with Leandro, my draft will see a few changes and
tweaks to finalize it.
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or example
would be a recognizable depiction of such an animal on a photo or as
illustration. An abstract take might just take a few cues from the
appearance of a cheetah. Maybe just a single curve, bend in a
characteristic way.
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d we miss that?).
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0001_Artwork_Team_Logo
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the deadline to begin of February, earliest (expecting
> > that not much will happen approaching and a bit after the turn of
> the year).
> I'm +1 on this.
Spec updated accordingly. Proposals on further tightening it and making
it clearer are very welcome.
https://wiki.ubuntu.
too.
> If everyone feels OK with changing a logo in just such a short period,
> we should make it clearer for people that their work might be replaced.
Let's push the deadline to begin of February, earliest (expecting that
not much will happen approaching and a bit after the turn of th
mplicated story with a logo anyway, I see no issue with making a
choice from where we stand now.
It's not like we couldn't replace the logo again, should there ever be a
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x27;s better. Now it looks like there would be black clouds above it,
though.
The general impression is of course: this is about technology, about
hardware.
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ike to see a version (or versions) of your wallpaper
without the logo/text and with glowing schematics. Also a rotation such
that no lines are horizontal or vertical could be interesting. Remember,
the wallpaper should speak of performance and lightness.
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> > ... ( same as Xubuntu )
That means:
* Define colors used in the panel and windows. Evaluate them in light of
the intended message. Suggest changes accordingly.
* Identify icons likely to appear on the desktop
* Create templates that allow to see proposals in context
* Select associat
changed the start to:
"The Xubuntu palette has been completely blue in the past, but should
not remain that way."
It's not that there should be no or little blue, it's rather that there
should be a wider range of colors to avoid a monotone impression.
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If anything needs to be more prominent, it should be part of or be
linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork
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A somewhat liberal summary of the meeting:
Attendees:
* John Baer
* K. Vishnoo Charan Reddy
* Ivanka Majik
* Thorsten Wilms
* Kenneth Wimer
As a community team, we do not work for Canonical, but will try to work
with or rather alongside the Design Team.
Ivanka will be our point of contact for
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 14:22 -0500, Martin Owens wrote:
> It's also the international standard. I see no reason not to enforce the
> convention for clarity going forward.
I changed all dates in our Specs to the ISO format and added notes to
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ss, performance).
Icons likely to appear on the desktop need to be identified.
Note that creating/choosing the wallpaper first, to then adjust the
panel and window colors is a valid approach, too.
The question is, can you change those colors and how late in the game
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> Thorsten - Saleel - Charlie? Will you update the spec?
Done. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0007_Xubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper
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eir wiki and be discussed on their lists.
Hence that page should at least be moved to Closed, if not deleted.
Can I hear other's opinion on this?
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bmissions adhere to?". Can we define
> that better?
Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
Consider GPL for themes
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em for himself to
contact you, Saleel, and me about taking care of that.
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me activity in ubuntu-website regarding
ready-to-use themes, but lately it has been silent and I don't know the
status.
However, an interesting list of branches can be found at
https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website
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d drop the statement. It's not clear enough what it is about and
why should Edubuntu care about the Light scheme of Ubuntu?
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n a sense of "has to go well with these colors we use in the
interface", please not in a sense of "wallpaper must be blue".
> * Theming suggestions
Suggested topics. Desired message and/or characteristics.
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only in an indirect way. Especially for a wallpaper, something people
like to change, perhaps just for the sake of changing it.
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On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 19:58 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> > The database is shared with Debian where possible, for example, I've
> > uploaded a new transmission-gtk screenshot today via
> > screenshots.ubuntu.comand it's already
> > available <http://screen
tween Debian and Ubuntu (even unaware of the existence of Debian).
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e avoided. It could be more like Apple
Finder's column view, even if that might make the space for thumbnails a
bit narrow.
http://www.bittbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/view_fonts_in_finder_4.jpg
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ext it might be a
total catastrophe both in a metaphorical and aesthetic sense.
Presenting other topics, values you want to see expressed, techniques to
be explored could do wonders to lead people away from focusing on the
animals.
But if there must be animal wallpapers, aim for solutions that
nts from the report:
Why would we want to reflect the relationship between Debian and Ubuntu
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for you to write an apology
for someone else or to speak for the entire team or even the whole
community.
Furthermore, I don't think it's fair to take issue without clearly
defining what it is you have a problem with, enabling others to make
sense of this and to judge for themselves.
but then you don't wait for even a single reply before you
carry this over to elsewhere.
I don't think this is fair to either project (and wherever else you may
be posting).
Well, my reply can be found right below your message, following that
nabble link, now.
Note that I don't doubt
es and process
regarding site updates have to be cleared up. Note that I'm not keen on
doing the theme, I would be glad if others handled that (except for the
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On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 16:49 +0300, Сергей wrote:
> Where shall I put it? Shall I report bugs in Launchpad and tag them
> 'needs-artwork'? Or shall I edit
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Tasks?
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give me the impression that a logo (and color scheme) has been selected
and is on the way of being established!?
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I noticed the light gray for the forum is #f7f6f5. It should be
#f7f7f7, like used on ubuntu.com.
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r than the background.
I think you should get rid of the gap between that bar and the
"page" (the 2 lines of dots shining through).
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On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 22:17 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> http://www.foopics.com/showfull/0a404f14eb9b5fee61518d808c5dd177
Wasn't happy with that one and only later realized that "Help" and "FAQ"
are the same link. One should be dropped, "FAQ" is more des
ithin the
forum page (not on the overview).
http://www.foopics.com/showfull/0a404f14eb9b5fee61518d808c5dd177
A rough mockup, trying to address the issues with the header. If we
really feel a need to link to several other Ubuntu sites, an approach
like the very top on http://www.heise.de/ should be c
t theme and briefing come
first.
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er than “png”. I use GIMP to do the conversion.
How does Flickr display JPG better than PNG? JPG is a terrible format
for this kind of graphics.
> I moved the desired due date out to 12/01 to give everyone time to
> participate.
I guess that means 1st of December, not 12th of January ;)
st if they are to be archived. Otherwise,
foopics.com, dropbox or ubuntu-one may suffice.
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no time
should be wasted on a temporary solution. Especially as those can end up
being sticky.
That said, we will have to use the wiki for documentation purposes until
there is another solution.
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of the design/conception for *a*
site and then will have to see where bottom-up and top-down may meet.
Also will have to see what comes out of the research/questionnaire.
Notes:
https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-design-n-reinvigorate-artwork-team
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m the palette shape.
I wonder if we can find a symbol that has more to do with the design
aspect, the planned and constructed approach.
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n frameworks would lead to a net win ...
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ome, Jason!
Sounds like a very tasty combination of skills and experience :)
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else who wants to
work on design/artwork in the FLOSS realm in a structured way. Not tying
it to Ubuntu will only make it more valuable, as GNOME, application
projects and even other distributions could use it, too.
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;Planner" will be easier
understood than "Facilitator".
Maybe "Client" in place of "Owner"? Typically not responsible for the
schedule (except deadline) and not able to define requirements all on
their own.
Thanks!
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r. Search both on the site and within the Flickr pool
at once
* Add notes or scribble on top of images to provide clear feedback
* Etherpad-style concurrent realtime editing
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