Re: Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Dave Hall
On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 11:48 +1000, Andre Mangan wrote: > > "Watch the door on the way out." > > You call that respectful, Dave? Seems like arrogance and insulting to > me. Definitely not in keeping with the CoC. Where are the > moderators? I thought it was quite appropriate in the circumstanc

Re: Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Andre Mangan
"Watch the door on the way out." You call that respectful, Dave? Seems like arrogance and insulting to me. Definitely not in keeping with the CoC. Where are the moderators? Andre On 19 April 2010 11:32, Dave Hall wrote: > On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 09:30 +1000, Tony "H.G" Candito wrote: > > I've

Re: Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Dave Hall
On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 09:30 +1000, Tony "H.G" Candito wrote: > I've spoken to a a bunch of people through email last week & this > week, including a few people who contacted me off-list regarding a > response I made RE: ACC. > Most of them are so tired of banging their heads again the wall thy > ca

Re: Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Karl Bowden
Hi everybody. Yes I am top posting. This is not in response to any particular comment or person. I make this post very reluctantly and have not contributed to the fire yet as it's all so draining and I really don't have the time for debates that I just don't have a strong enough opinion on. I ins

Re: Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Andrew Gaydon
Dave, I will defend my integrity. You have quoted a thread from March, in which there was a general discussion about Ubuntu-au Governance. This was the actual thread about the 'PROPOSAL' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2010-April/005957.html Yes we are wasting our energy lets move

Re: Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Dave Hall
On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 08:20 +1000, Andrew Gaydon wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Melissa Draper > wrote: > On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 20:18 +1000, Cary Bielenberg wrote: > > This will be my last response as per your wishes Jared, I am > saddened > > that you

Re: Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Tony "H.G" Candito
I've spoken to a a bunch of people through email last week & this week, including a few people who contacted me off-list regarding a response I made RE: ACC. Most of them are so tired of banging their heads again the wall thy can't even be bothered voicing things anymore, they're just over it. A fe

Re: Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Andrew Gaydon
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Melissa Draper wrote: > On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 20:18 +1000, Cary Bielenberg wrote: > > This will be my last response as per your wishes Jared, I am saddened > > that you and Melissa stifle change, you misquote the code of conduct > > to server your own needs. I gues

Re: Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Melissa Draper
On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 20:18 +1000, Cary Bielenberg wrote: > This will be my last response as per your wishes Jared, I am saddened > that you and Melissa stifle change, you misquote the code of conduct > to server your own needs. I guess it will be good to trot it out to > stop folks challenging yo

Re: Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Andrew Gaydon
Hi Jared and the List. Yes I agree that things are getting out of hand. I started this discussion at an attempt to get people to talk about the issues. We have had some very good frank discussion. There has been quite a large silent majority and silence from the ones that should be making comment

Re: Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Cary Bielenberg
This will be my last response as per your wishes Jared, I am saddened that you and Melissa stifle change, you misquote the code of conduct to server your own needs. I guess it will be good to trot it out to stop folks challenging your authority. Lots of luck in your dictatorship & whoa beho

Ongoing Ubuntu-AU debate.

2010-04-18 Thread Jared Norris
Good evening Andrew and the Ubuntu-AU list, Firstly I would like to say that I agree the Ubuntu-AU team could use a lot more people willing to help out as much as you have in the Brisbane area. I do however have some reservations about your ongoing tirade of emails about the ACC. I would again