Re: RFC: baseline requirements for Ubuntu rootfs: xattrs and fscaps

2018-08-15 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 4:10 PM Steve Langasek wrote: > > # tar -c --xattrs /usr/bin/mtr-packet | tar -x --xattrs-include=* FYI, the Gentoo handbook recommends '--xattrs-include="*.*"' for unpacking its tarball. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or

Re: LibreOffice bug - cannot load calc 5.1.4.2

2017-06-29 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 2:26 PM, paulwhee...@cox.net wrote: > LibreOffice bug - cannot load calc 5.1.4.228 June, 2017 > > ... > > I created a new linuxmint installation. I installed libreOffice. I tried to > look at a calc file. Got the attached error message. > > ... > >

Re: netplan and post-up/pre-down scripts

2017-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Seth Arnold wrote: > > If you don't need it, try turning stp off: > brctl stp wan0 off > brctl stp lan0 off > > (Is there a way to turn it off via iproute2 instead? I couldn't find > it quickly, if there is a way.) I've never found any

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-11 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: > Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 16:52: >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: I'll reply quickly to the beginning and read and reply to the rest tomorrow. >>> That's not

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-11 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Xen wrote: > > That's not really true. The vast majority of people would go screaming > for a Windows or Mac PC if they had Linux preinstalled. > > The level of system maintenance I would have to give to my family for > a Linux box is about

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-12 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 1:43 PM, John Moser <john.r.mo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 2016-09-11 at 12:52 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> I've only read a quarter (or less) of the posts in this thread so I >> don't know how it went from "32-bit ISOs are being deprecated&q

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-12 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: > On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 12:52:14 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> do you really think that this is the best use of ubuntu-devel-discuss@? > > Does somebody need 32 bit support? > > Neither

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-11 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > You are quoting me out of context. The context is that the poor can't > donate new computers and they can't pay for infrastructure, such as > internet access for everyone. _BUT_ rich people could, they are just > not

systemd samba units

2016-09-03 Thread Tom H
Could Ubuntu ship samba systemd units with the same names as upstream? Ubuntu's shipping nmbd, samba (masked), samba-ad-dc, and smbd, whereas upstream's shipping nmb, samba (equivalent to samba-ad-dc), and smb. It'd be helpful and kind to those of who use multiple distros - as well as for those

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Secure Boot Policy

2016-07-09 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 4:15 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 03:39:48 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> >>> It's still more user-friendly to disable secure boot, than to deal

Re: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Secure Boot Policy

2016-07-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Dale Amon wrote: > > If you roll your own kernels, do the build scripts > let you generate your own keys? If you don't generate your own key and set its path in "CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY", "make" will generate a "certs/signing_key.pem" key (unless you

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Secure Boot Policy

2016-07-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: > On 04.07.2016, at 00:02, Tom H wrote: >> The Linux developers who put together a Linux solution/option for >> Secure Boot must've thought that there's a case to be made for Secure >

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Secure Boot Policy

2016-07-03 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 15:18:44 -0500, Kaosu NA wrote: >> >> Not only will something like this be more user-friendly, but it >> also allows a large number of Ubuntu users to take advantage of a >> modern security

Re: GRsecurity is preventing others from employing their rights under version 2 the GPL to redistribute source code.

2016-05-31 Thread Tom H
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 5:19 AM, wrote: > > GRsecurity is preventing others from employing their rights under > version 2 the GPL to redistribute (by threatening them with a > non-renewal of a contract to recive this patch to the linux kernel.) > (GRsecurity is a

Re: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

2016-04-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: > Tom H schreef op 31-03-16 10:38: >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: >>> Colin Law schreef op 28-03-2016 18:38: >>>> Are these not issues for upstream N

Re: the fragile boot process [on encryption setups and home data]

2016-03-31 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: > On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:20:15 +0200, Tom H wrote: >> If you add "nofail" to an fstab entry's options, the generated mount >> unit "wants" local-fs.target or remote-fs.

Re: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

2016-03-31 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Xen wrote: > Colin Law schreef op 28-03-2016 18:38: >> >> Are these not issues for upstream Nautilus developers to consider >> rather than Ubuntu? > > The point is really that if people "downstream" *care* their voice becomes > stronger

Re: Why is package libpam-smbpass removed?

2016-03-09 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Linus Eklöf wrote: > > This breaks the easy set up for folder sharing in nautilus since only the > guest access will work unless setting up samba manually. > > Is this intended or should this feature be present and filed as a bug? It was

systemd-fsck@.service

2015-11-30 Thread Tom H
I have two questions about systemd-fsck@.service. 1) How does the unit now what "%f" is? $ grep -Ev '^#|^$' /lib/systemd/system/systemd-fsck@.service [Unit] Description=File System Check on %f Documentation=man:systemd-fsck@.service(8) DefaultDependencies=no BindsTo=%i.device

Re: systemd-nspawn and /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf

2015-09-24 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:36:27 -0400, Tom H wrote: > Thank you Tom for taking the time. You're welcome. >> So it works when using "-b". >> >> But you're right, it d

Re: systemd-nspawn and /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf

2015-09-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You need to ensure that a proper resolv.conf exists in a chroot before > switching to it. When installing Gentoo, for example, you "cp -L > /etc/resolv.conf $chroot/etc" before chrooting becaus

Re: systemd-nspawn and /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf

2015-09-22 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:16 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 21:51:35 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> >> wrote: >>> by default Wily's /etc/reso

Re: systemd-nspawn and /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf

2015-09-21 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > by default Wily's /etc/resolv.conf is a link against > ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf. If you want to maintain Wily from another > install in a systemd-nspawn container, the link needs to be replaced by a > file

Re: [solved] Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-23 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:54:22 +0200, I wrote: Tom's hint is useful, menuconfig's search option does the trick, I seemingly got rid of MPILIB=m. Thank you. Thank you Tom :) You're welcome. I was able to build

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-23 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 08:32:35 -0400, Tom H wrote: There's nothing difficult with make menuconfig because you can search for a specific config value with / except that you like to ask for help but never seem to like

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: This line ... [root@moonstudio src]# export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2;wget https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.10.61.tar.gz

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: I try to build a kernel for Wily, that is as close as possible to a kernel I use for Arch Linux. The reason is, that for the Arch install Green drives don't run berserk and I anyway need a 3.x-rt. Then I tried to

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 05:08:03 -0400, Tom H wrote: Are you editing .config manually? Yes ... if yes, why don't you use make menuconfig (or another config target) because there are dependencies that you can't

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

2015-08-19 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Tom H [2015-08-18 9:33 -0400]: # When this machine is running systemd, standard service calls are turned into # systemctl calls. /end And this is what you want for the sake of consistency. I don't understand how

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

2015-08-18 Thread Tom H
n Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Oliver Grawert [2015-08-17 15:24 +0200]: if you need to prevent an upstart service from starting on boot you need to create a .override files containing the word manual, as described in your askubuntu links. i dont

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

2015-08-18 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:32:42 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: unfounded FUD What next? Actually everything I pointed out is correct, it's not unfounded FUD. Even you mentioned that not all services are ported

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

2015-08-18 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:43:50 -0400, Luis Mondesi wrote: When you do a clean install of 15.10 you get the Full Systemd Experience ™ It's very awkward for the first 30 seconds or so, but one gets used to its quirks

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

2015-08-18 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com wrote: Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 12:38 +0100 schrieb João M. S. Silva: First a correction. I meant to say as in Debian for sysv damons not as in Debian. This is the problem with hybrid init setups. With upstart, we could use

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

2015-08-18 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:56 AM, João M. S. Silva joao.m.santos.si...@gmail.com wrote: The specific problem here is that modemmanager depends on network-manager: $ cat /etc/init/modemmanager.conf (...) start on starting network-manager stop on stopped network-manager (...) But I don't

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

2015-08-18 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 05:40:23 -0400, Tom H wrote: It's a bit messy, SOMETIMES. I'm aware that it wasn't you who blamed me for spreading unfounded FUD, it was Oliver and at the same time he mentioned backwards

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

2015-08-18 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Tom H [2015-08-18 4:49 -0400]: update-rc.d and invoke-rc.d are tools for package maintainers only (to be used from pre/postinst scripts) and only applies to sysv-init scripts ... Yes and no. They are meant

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

2015-08-18 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 05:52:20 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:32:42 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: unfounded FUD What next

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

2015-08-18 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Tom H [2015-08-18 5:40 -0400]: Unless Ubuntu decides we're going to provide native systemd units for all packages that have sysvrc scripts in Ubuntu version X, these units'll be provided at whatever pace

Re: equivalent of chkconfig

2015-08-15 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:38 PM, João M. S. Silva joao.m.santos.si...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest an equivalent of Fedora's chkconfig for server startup service administration. It seems strange that a simple solution for this problem does not already exist, but from all the questions that

Re: Expert mode options in installation not available on Trusty 14.04.2 release

2015-02-21 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 2:55 AM, John Mok a9121...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to use the new release Trusty 14.04.2 amd64 to install a new server, but found that that the expert mode installation became not available. Those options, like choosing local archive server and enabling root account

Re: Expert mode options in installation not available on Trusty 14.04.2 release

2015-02-21 Thread Tom H
Sorry. Gmail somehow defaulted to this list rather than the user list. On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 2:55 AM, John Mok a9121...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to use the new release Trusty 14.04.2 amd64 to install a new server, but found

Re: mail binary from mailutils package 1:2.99.98-1.4 doesn't expand aliases

2015-01-30 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: jfprev...@bluewin.ch wrote on 21/01/15 23:17: This bug has been filed in 2004 in the debian bugtracker, but apparently closed by the maintainer as he couldn't reproduce it. I confirm that on my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

Re: Systemd in Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid

2015-01-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Сергей protsero...@gmail.com wrote: Excuse me, are there any plans of making systemd a default init-system in Ubuntu 15.04? From [1]: Although this topic has been discussed before (see References below), this cycle we fully intend to make the switch to systemd

Re: 15.04 and systemd

2014-12-13 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Tom H [2014-12-05 8:03 -0500]: | $ grep ifup /lib/udev/rules.d/99-systemd.rules | SUBSYSTEM==net, KERNEL!=lo, TAG+=systemd, ENV{SYSTEMD_ALIAS}+=/sys/subsystem/net/devices/$name, ENV{SYSTEMD_WANTS}+=ifup

Re: Hide boot on-screen errors, or get TV-out working on ATI Radeon X300

2014-12-08 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 02:33:47PM -0500, John Hupp wrote: I created /etc/sysctl.d/20-quiet-printk.conf with content: kernel.printk = 3 3 3 3 ... Though I was curious to know a bit more about the mechanisms in play, I

Re: Hide boot on-screen errors, or get TV-out working on ATI Radeon X300

2014-12-08 Thread Tom H
Sorry. Sent to devel-discuss@ by mistake! On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 02:33:47PM -0500, John Hupp wrote: I created /etc/sysctl.d/20-quiet-printk.conf with content

Re: Devuan

2014-12-03 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Diego Germán Gonzalez diegogermangonza...@gmail.com wrote: El 02/12/14 a las 08:12, Tom H escibió: Why would Ubuntu give its users a choice of init now when it hasn't in the past? Why use Unity when we always use Gnome? Why use LibreOffice when we always use

Re: Devuan

2014-12-02 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult enrico.weig...@gr13.net wrote: On 01.12.2014 19:15, Tom H wrote: Especially after deciding a few months ago to switch to systemd! By the way: is it then be mandatory ? Why would Ubuntu give its users a choice of init now when

Re: Devuan

2014-12-01 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Diego Germán Gonzalez diegogermangonza...@gmail.com wrote: I just learned of the launch of Devuan https://devuan.org/ A fork of Debian which eliminates the requirement to use systemd, and promises to build a less bureaucratic and more friendly community towards

15.04 and systemd

2014-11-03 Thread Tom H
I'm running 15.04 with systemd as pid 1 and I want to share some observations. 1) systemd-vconsole-setup.service Cannot add dependency job for unit systemd-vconsole-setup.service, ignoring: Unit systemd-vconsole-setup.service failed to load: No such file or directory. is in the output of

Re: Puppet version bump

2013-01-26 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM, John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm noticing that 2.7 is still the version of Puppet in Raring; however, version 3.0 was released October 1, 2012, before release of 12.04: I assume that you mean 13.04.

Re: Puppet version bump

2013-01-26 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:05 PM, John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/26/2013 04:01 PM, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM, John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com wrote: Does this package currently not have a maintainer, or is it just slow in Debian as well? There were two

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-04 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Sander Smeenk ssme...@freshdot.net wrote: Quoting Jordon Bedwell (jor...@envygeeks.com): And framebuffered consoles. I can see *some* value of having larger terminals than the default 80x24. And this is more constructive than my comments? Jump in and help fix

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-04 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Dale Amon a...@vnl.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:18:21PM -0500, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Dale Amon a...@vnl.com wrote: # DMA20121218. This is new, suggested to me by Tom H on the ubuntudev list #GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text If you

Re: Misc problems with quantal

2012-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Dale Amon a...@vnl.com wrote: Second, I am getting hit with a blinking screen even in virtual terminals on a quantal amd64 server build. Terminal is an ADI ProVista attached to a KVM. Eventually the screen seems to go to sleep and I cannot get it to ever

Re: Possible inclusion of 'net-tools' into Ubuntu Core

2012-12-05 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Kieran Grant kieran.thehacker.gr...@gmail.com wrote: Based on the problems that Saqlain had (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2012-December/014092.html) and I initially had with Ubuntu core and using apt-get, I am wondering if Ubuntu Core

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-10-31 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Daniel J Blueman dan...@quora.org wrote: I'd love to hear what other users and developers think about this: The refreshed update manager (almost) always displays The computer needs to restart to finish installing updates, with a default button Restart

Re: Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-24 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@ubuntu.com wrote: Excerpts from Tom H's message of 2012-08-22 00:24:11 -0700: IMO, we'll end up sooner or later using NM on X-less boxes by default I do not share your opinion. While I'm not ifupdown's biggest fan, it will likely be the

Re: Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-24 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote: I guess this whole NM issue might fall under the tasksel issue, I prefer not to use it but a friend of mine does...you prefer NM I prefer to stay away from it, preference perhaps? But with preference comes the problem

Re: Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-24 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:18 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: Could NM's Depends and Recommends be pared down for an X-less use-case

Re: Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote: Of course, as the tools continue to advance, some other selection may make sense in the future, but even then I think we should continue to debate the tools in terms of how the system is expected to be used, rather than

Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-22 Thread Tom H
IMO, we'll end up sooner or later using NM on X-less boxes by default NM on Fedora can now handle bonding and bridging by reading /etc/sysconfig/netwok-scripts/ifcfg-* files. I was curious about whether NM could do the same by reading /etc/network/interfaces so I've just tried to install NM in

Re: Are UI developers all left handed?

2012-08-09 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM, John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote: It has a lot of bearing for people. Proper usability testing would have pointed that out, and Canonicals decision not to allow the toolbar to be

Re: Are UI developers all left handed?

2012-08-09 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:12 PM, John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 8/8/2012 11:01 AM, John Moser wrote: Put your mouse pointer in the middle

Re: Are UI developers all left handed?

2012-08-08 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 8/8/2012 11:01 AM, John Moser wrote: Put your mouse pointer in the middle of the screen. Put your mouse somewhere you can grab it. Now reach out and grab the mouse. Where does the pointer end up? It ends up in the

Re: Windows controls: new button layout

2010-05-08 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Dylan McCall dylanmcc...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of release notes, I was looking for the 10.04 release notes to see what we had going on there for the button layout change, but I actually _couldn't find them_ from ubuntu.com. Am I just going crazy?

Re: Ubuntu needs a new development model

2010-05-05 Thread Tom H
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 6 May 2010 01:38, Brandon Holtsclaw m...@brandonholtsclaw.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 20:34 -0400, Daniel Hollocher wrote: I'm pretty sure that getdeb.net and the ppa's on launchpad satisfy most cravings

Small correction to avahi section of 10.04 release notes

2010-04-29 Thread Tom H
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes $ diff -su wrong right --- wrong 2010-04-29 14:47:14.200010874 -0400 +++ right 2010-04-29 14:46:42.727997369 -0400 @@ -1,8 +1,10 @@ Avahi will always start even if a .local domain is

Rant about 10.04's installer on ubuntu-users

2010-04-21 Thread Tom H
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-April/216013.html Since the person who posted does not want to file a bug report, I thought that i should point this out. From the link above: Long story short: the only way to be safe right now is to physically remove drives with important

Re: Troubleshooting boot problems

2010-04-20 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Patrick Goetz pgo...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Subject: Re: Troubleshooting boot problems From: Brian Vaughan bgvaug...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 07:53:30 -0700 I'd like to see a good overview of Ubuntu's startup process. I just took a class on Unix/Linux

Re: Troubleshooting boot problems

2010-04-20 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Joao Pinto joao.pi...@getdeb.net wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Patrick Goetz pgo...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Subject: Re: Troubleshooting boot problems From: Brian Vaughan bgvaug...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 07:53:30 -0700 Next, suppose I

Re: cant start gksu firefox

2010-04-03 Thread Tom H
Can you explain why gksu is a bad idea and why gksudo is better? gksu - executes as superuser using $HOME = /root gksudo - executes your current environment e.g. $HOME=/home/$user but with superuser priviliges. However, on Ubuntu: ~$ diff -as $(which gksu) $(which gksudo) Files

Re: Upstart

2010-03-09 Thread Tom H
1. Why does /lib/init/upstart-job direct us to use service rather than initctl? Because /usr/sbin/service can handle the start/stop/restart/status actions of both traditional System V init scripts in /etc/init.d as well as Upstart scripts in /etc/init. It's intended to be

Re: Upstart

2010-03-09 Thread Tom H
999. Could initctl be made to recognize, for example, both avahi-daemon and avahi-daemon.conf? (If I am in /etc/init - it is rare but it happens - and type stop av//tab//, I end up with stop avahi-daemon.conf which, after pressing //enter// results in an unknown job message.) That sounds

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 40, Issue 13

2010-03-09 Thread Tom H
I assume that the samba job has been split into two because there was a problem with nmbd not starting when smbd and nmbd were launched through samba. If you look at the respective conf files, you will see that nmbd requires a nic other than lo to be up before starting. So, although it

Re: Upstart (now, a very modest suggestion)

2010-03-07 Thread Tom H
So, I'm testing samba on a Lucid alpha 3, and I decide to restart the smbd daemon: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found Oops, I guess it's a service now? sudo service samba restart samba: unrecognized service So of course it only took a little

Upstart

2010-03-07 Thread Tom H
Patrick's two Upstart posts reminded me of 2.5 queries of my own. 1. Why does /lib/init/upstart-job direct us to use service rather than initctl? 2. With initctl, upstart has the equivalent of invoke-rc.d/service. Is there or will there be the equivalent of update-rc.d/chkconfig? 999. Could

Re: White-on-black terminal should be default

2010-03-03 Thread Tom H
Everybody knows that a terminal has white text on black background. Windows has a terminal like this. Mac OS X have a terminal like this. OS X's terminal is a very civilized black text on white background... Ugh. I really thought that only primitive systems use white text on a black