[ubuntu-uk] ubunchu

2011-06-11 Thread john beddard
I guess everyone is aware of the Ubunchu Manga comic for young people new to Ubuntu : https://seotch.wordpress.com/2009/04/04/ubunchu01/ The Michigan LoCo have been using this Manga to really good effect. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk ht

[ubuntu-uk] email list not working in evolution (emails missing)

2011-06-11 Thread andres
I'm using evolution to read ubuntu lists that I have set-up in a digest. This shows first the list of emails and then the emails in a sort of sub-email format. But some of my emails are missing and I cannot see a pattern. I was suggested it might be spam but I have looked at my personal spam box i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Barebones pc.

2011-06-11 Thread LeeGroups
What sort of power usage do these microserver have? Lee On 10/06/11 10:06, Roger Lancefield wrote: On 10 June 2011 09:30, Dave Hanson wrote: Morning all, I'm toying with the idea of buying a barebones pc from maplins to run web server on. (potentially more) I would quite like a dual core pr

[ubuntu-uk] keyring password

2011-06-11 Thread andres
Usually when I log in I have the keyring password pop-up to request my password. Normally I would write this once and it would mean that chats, email, diffusion, cloud,... password would be set. It now asks for the password 3 times in a row. I do not remember doing anything special. but I have a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's in a name?

2011-06-11 Thread alan c
On 11/06/11 21:06, (:techitone:) wrote: In my experience when I speak with people about trying, or even switching to, Ubuntu there is always a stumbling block with the name 'Ubuntu' and the names of all the releases, Dapper Drake, Hardy Heron, Karmic Koala, Lucid Lynx, Maverick Meerkat, Natty Nar

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's in a name?

2011-06-11 Thread Grant Sewell
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:13:03 +0100 Alan Bell wrote: > On 11/06/11 21:06, (:techitone:) wrote: > > > > Windows is a familiar word. It's releases have progressive names, > > Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7. They sound cool. > not to me, they sound confused. 1, 2, 3, 3.1, 95, 98, NT, 2000, ME,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Neil Greenwood
On Jun 11, 2011 2:40 PM, "Will Bickerstaff" wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:33 PM, J Fernyhough wrote: [snip] >> aren't going to spend the time reformatting a newsletter in HTML >> format once they've made it in Word (or even worse, Publisher). Hence, >> save as a PDF, done. > > > I couldn't a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's in a name?

2011-06-11 Thread Alan Bell
On 11/06/11 21:06, (:techitone:) wrote: Windows is a familiar word. It's releases have progressive names, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7. They sound cool. not to me, they sound confused. 1, 2, 3, 3.1, 95, 98, NT, 2000, ME, XP, Vista, 7. That is a complete and utter mess, far from progres

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's in a name?

2011-06-11 Thread suprengr
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 21:42 +0100, john beddard wrote: > These are valuable lessons that we need to take on board Tony. > > However we are dealing across an international community, where Ubuntu > can have different meanings. Not forgetting that Microsoft Windows has > very negative image across

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Colin Law
On 11 June 2011 21:44, Dino T. wrote: > Teachers have enough on their plate teaching 2-3 subjects. So on top of > teaching subjects they didnt do a degree, they now by your standards have to > learn HTML etc? Give me a break. > Few build web pages in raw html nowadays. No-one should be so doing

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Dino T.
Teachers have enough on their plate teaching 2-3 subjects. So on top of teaching subjects they didnt do a degree, they now by your standards have to learn HTML etc? Give me a break. School websites are only done as a means to advertise and make the school have an online presence. They do not in ma

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's in a name?

2011-06-11 Thread john beddard
These are valuable lessons that we need to take on board Tony. However we are dealing across an international community, where Ubuntu can have different meanings. Not forgetting that Microsoft Windows has very negative image across the world. To the point that most users had to begin using it, be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's in a name?

2011-06-11 Thread George Tripp
>Windows is a familiar word. It's releases have progressive names, Windows XP, >Windows Vista, Windows 7. They sound cool. > >Mac OS X 'sounds' cool. Its big cat release names sound powerful. Lion is soon >to be released and is very cheap. This is cool. > In my experience people use these OSs n

[ubuntu-uk] What's in a name?

2011-06-11 Thread (:techitone:)
Hi, I've been using Ubuntu on and off for a couple of years now and have learned a lot from reading the UK Ubuntu Talk emails. I've install Xubuntu many times on older (+5 to -10 years) laptops and I've given these laptops to people to borrow for community projects that I'm working on. It takes t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Example of difficulty to Convert MS users

2011-06-11 Thread alan c
On 11/06/11 17:48, Alan Bell wrote: On 11/06/11 16:51, gazz wrote: I dunno if we should do another list for people interested in education/non-profit stuff? Is it on-topic for this list? yes, advocating Ubuntu in the UK education sector is totally on topic for this list. Alan Which list wo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Lewis Cawte
On 11/06/11 14:51, Tony Scott wrote: > Surely schools could use something like WordPress? > > Disclosure - I organise WordCamp UK ;-) > > -- > Tony Scott > http://tonyscott.org.uk | http://twitter.com/tonys | > http://2011.portsmouth.wordcampuk.org | http://lpd.bectu.com | > http://orangecoconut.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Andres
This might be a bit out of subject or opening a completly new can of worms but can't libreoffice save in html format? It can definatly save in pdf. Without installing cutepdf or whatever the schools are using. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 Please do not send me word documents plain txt or pdf ar

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] materials for marketing

2011-06-11 Thread gazz
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 17:40 +0100, alan c wrote: > On 11/06/11 16:51, gazz wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 13:24 +0100, john beddard wrote: > > > >> Hello Gazz,Sarah : > >> > >> I'm also interested in developing materials in the area of introducing > >> Ubuntu, as a non-profit. So please

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Example of difficulty to Convert MS users

2011-06-11 Thread Alan Bell
On 11/06/11 16:51, gazz wrote: I dunno if we should do another list for people interested in education/non-profit stuff? Is it on-topic for this list? yes, advocating Ubuntu in the UK education sector is totally on topic for this list. Alan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] materials for marketing

2011-06-11 Thread alan c
On 11/06/11 16:51, gazz wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 13:24 +0100, john beddard wrote: Hello Gazz,Sarah : I'm also interested in developing materials in the area of introducing Ubuntu, as a non-profit. So please keep me in the information loop. I would like to contribute. Hi John - yes

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread gazz
I know people with PhDs who won't write HMTL onto an open access academic site I run. It's not that people are too stupid, it's that they're too busy and don't do it often enough to be able to remember the markup between times - and they don't have time/skills to find their own errors when they mak

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Example of difficulty to Convert MS users

2011-06-11 Thread gazz
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 13:24 +0100, john beddard wrote: > Hello Gazz,Sarah : > > I'm also interested in developing materials in the area of introducing > Ubuntu, as a non-profit. So please keep me in the information loop. I > would like to contribute. > Hi John - yes, that's exactly what we've

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Example of difficulty to Convert MS users

2011-06-11 Thread gazz
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 13:30 +0100, Sarah Chard wrote: > I would be very interested in the women's FOSS advocacy network - keep > me posted on that as well Hi Sarah - we hope to have this up and running in the next couple of weeks so will post something here :) Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubunt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 30 test drive of Ubuntu: PC world

2011-06-11 Thread Avi
alan c wrote: > On 11/06/11 11:42, Matthew Daubney wrote: > > Maybe someone should write a linux > > installer that backs up the complete HDD state before install onto > > one of these disks now they're becoming inexpensive. > > Hi Matt > A special version of say, clonezilla live would probably

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 30 test drive of Ubuntu: PC world

2011-06-11 Thread alan c
On 11/06/11 11:42, Matthew Daubney wrote: Maybe someone should write a linux installer that backs up the complete HDD state before install onto one of these disks now they're becoming inexpensive. Hi Matt A special version of say, clonezilla live would probably suffice. In its native state c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 30 test drive of Ubuntu: PC world

2011-06-11 Thread Andres
No I haven't that's a good one! i'll follow it up! -- Sent from my Nokia N900 Please do not send me word documents plain txt or pdf are prefered. - Original message - > On Wednesday 08 Jun 2011 09:46:40 Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote: > > I've been following up 7 days of this guy fighting a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Tony Scott
Surely schools could use something like WordPress? Disclosure - I organise WordCamp UK ;-)   -- Tony Scott http://tonyscott.org.uk | http://twitter.com/tonys | http://2011.portsmouth.wordcampuk.org | http://lpd.bectu.com | http://orangecoconut.com > >From: Will

[ubuntu-uk] Decluttering

2011-06-11 Thread TT Mooney
Hi all -- I am getting rid of some surplus equipment from home, and rather than fuss with Ebay, I thought perhaps someone on the list would be interested. Current techie toys littering the flat include: O2 Joggler (works, briefly used, still in box, replaced with Nook Color Tablet for kitchen co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Will Bickerstaff
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:33 PM, J Fernyhough wrote: > > I know I slate the state of teaching quite often, but it's not > teachers who upload stuff onto websites - it's admin staff. Primary > schools, for example, have a school secretary who normally has to do > pretty much everything (and quite o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Paul Sutton
On 11/06/11 14:18, J Fernyhough wrote: On 11 June 2011 14:08, Sean Miller wrote: Erm, this is a SCHOOL! Sparta? If they've got an even remotely competent IT Teacher Ha, nice one. See previous discussions. :) Plus, primary schools don't have IT teachers, they have class teachers (who might h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread J Fernyhough
On 11 June 2011 14:08, Sean Miller wrote: > > Erm, this is a SCHOOL! Sparta? > > If they've got an even remotely competent IT Teacher Ha, nice one. See previous discussions. :) Plus, primary schools don't have IT teachers, they have class teachers (who might have a specialism, normally Early Ye

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Sean Miller
On 11 June 2011 13:33, J Fernyhough wrote: > Collect dinner money, enter register data, phone parents, send out > letters - and one of the other tasks is to post newsletters onto the > school website. When you think about school secretaries you don't > think about people with technological intere

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Mark Fraser
On Saturday 11 Jun 2011 09:32:31 Mark Fraser wrote: > Just been to look at the website of my daughter's school - > https://slp3.somerset.gov.uk/schools/hps/Default.aspx. Is this similar to > other school websites in the UK where everything is in either Word, Excel > or PPT format both old and new w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread J Fernyhough
On 11 June 2011 11:40, Sean Miller wrote: > > No, that is not the point at all... schools would not take on somebody to be > their secretary who had no concept of what a word processor was, or could > not use a spreadsheet... they are meant to be educational establishments... > are you REALLY sayi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Avi
Sean Miller wrote: > It's their CHOICE to "attach a PDF" rather than merely type the > information into (in many cases) a WYSIWYG editor such as fckeditor > or tinymce. Interesting use of 'merely' there. It's hardly surprising that they choose to attach an already-extant document rather than 'mer

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Paul Sutton
On 11/06/11 11:40, Sean Miller wrote: > On 11 June 2011 11:30, Paul Sutton > wrote: > > Perhaps we need more people in schools to help out who can actually do > web design and help out without charging hundreds of pounds for the job. > nProblem is most people o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Will Bickerstaff
My sons school is not great. Most things are in PDF, Newsletters, prospectus, ofsted reports etc, I like the way Mark's school links directly to the ofsted site for the HTML version of the report rather than the way ours provides a PDF version. However we have no word excel or ppt files yet. The ca

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Sean Miller
On 11 June 2011 11:40, Sean Miller wrote: > I am SORRY but if this is the state of our education system then I > despair... > And this is largely irrelevant in many cases, because they are using CMS systems. It's their CHOICE to "attach a PDF" rather than merely type the information into (in ma

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 30 test drive of Ubuntu: PC world

2011-06-11 Thread Matthew Daubney
On 11 June 2011 11:33, alan c wrote: >> Have you seen Matt Daubneys' attempt at going from Ubuntu to Windows for >> 30 >> days? http://daubers.co.uk/2011/06/09/from-linux-to-windows-for-30-days/ > > It is a nice idea. > The elephant in the room is that almost nobody I know who uses Windows has > u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Sean Miller
On 11 June 2011 11:30, Paul Sutton wrote: > Perhaps we need more people in schools to help out who can actually do > web design and help out without charging hundreds of pounds for the job. > nProblem is most people out of college may not have these skills, I have > seen web design courses advert

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 30 test drive of Ubuntu: PC world

2011-06-11 Thread alan c
On 11/06/11 09:27, Mark Fraser wrote: On Wednesday 08 Jun 2011 09:46:40 Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote: I've been following up 7 days of this guy fighting a change to Ubuntu from Windows7. Sadly he is finding loads of contradictory messages, rants about linux, rants about mint, rants about nvi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Paul Sutton
On 11/06/11 11:01, Sean Miller wrote: > I think schools have a lot to answer for... they're supposed to be > educational establishments, yet they seem to fundamentally misunderstand > the whole concept of the web... > > PDFs are fine, for documents that need to be printed consistently (eg. > poste

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Sean Miller
I think schools have a lot to answer for... they're supposed to be educational establishments, yet they seem to fundamentally misunderstand the whole concept of the web... PDFs are fine, for documents that need to be printed consistently (eg. posters for school events) but ALL other information (w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Alan Bell
On 11/06/11 09:32, Mark Fraser wrote: Just been to look at the website of my daughter's school - https://slp3.somerset.gov.uk/schools/hps/Default.aspx. Is this similar to other school websites in the UK where everything is in either Word, Excel or PPT format both old and new with the help section

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Lewis Cawte
On 11/06/11 09:40, Alan Pope wrote: > On 11 June 2011 09:32, Mark Fraser wrote: >> Just been to look at the website of my daughter's school - >> https://slp3.somerset.gov.uk/schools/hps/Default.aspx. Is this similar to >> other school websites in the UK where everything is in either Word, Excel or

Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Alan Pope
On 11 June 2011 09:32, Mark Fraser wrote: > Just been to look at the website of my daughter's school - > https://slp3.somerset.gov.uk/schools/hps/Default.aspx. Is this similar to > other school websites in the UK where everything is in either Word, Excel or > PPT format both old and new with the h

[ubuntu-uk] School websites

2011-06-11 Thread Mark Fraser
Just been to look at the website of my daughter's school - https://slp3.somerset.gov.uk/schools/hps/Default.aspx. Is this similar to other school websites in the UK where everything is in either Word, Excel or PPT format both old and new with the help section giving links to viewers? I've tried

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 30 test drive of Ubuntu: PC world

2011-06-11 Thread Mark Fraser
On Wednesday 08 Jun 2011 09:46:40 Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote: > I've been following up 7 days of this guy fighting a change to Ubuntu > from Windows7. > > Sadly he is finding loads of contradictory messages, rants about > linux, rants about mint, rants about nvidia drivers... > > But a very inte