On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 09:19 +, Colin Law wrote:
On 10 December 2011 08:12, Barry Titterton
barry.titter...@mail.adsl4less.com wrote:
...
My Toshiba running 11.10 takes five times longer to shut down compared
with when it was running 11.04. Start up times are about the same.
If the
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 01:34:18PM +, Paula Graham wrote:
Dunno what's hogging the CPU but Oneiric takes literally (I've timed
it) up to 6 mins to boot on my 4 GB Lenovo and almost as long to
shut down and is sluggish in use. For several more minutes after
logging in, the CPU is going
On 03/12/11 04:15, Liam Proven wrote:
On 2 December 2011 11:30, Simon Greenwoodsfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:
For my 2p worth, I'm happy with Unity as I like the paradigm of the GUI,
having returned to Linux after many years of OS X.
I think it is easier if you have Mac experience. If all
On 9 December 2011 13:34, Paula Graham pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
Dunno what's hogging the CPU but Oneiric takes literally (I've timed it) up
to 6 mins to boot on my 4 GB Lenovo and almost as long to shut down and is
sluggish in use. For several more minutes after logging in, the CPU is going
Paula Graham wrote:
On 03/12/11 04:15, Liam Proven wrote:
On 2 December 2011 11:30, Simon Greenwoodsfgreenw...@gmail.com
wrote:
For my 2p worth, I'm happy with Unity as I like the paradigm of
the GUI, having returned to Linux after many years of OS X.
I think it is easier if you have
On 6 December 2011 21:49, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote:
On 02/12/11 06:04, Nigel Verity wrote:
Thunar, is a little lacking in advanced functionality
I was amazed when I found I could use thunar to change filenames en
masse using it.
I understand why thunar doesn't have tabs but I
On 02/12/11 08:52, Juan J. Martínez wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 00:58 +, Phill Whiteside wrote:
I certainly do not wish to partake in a flame war. People are
naturally conservative. Take for example how long it took for Lubuntu
to gain adoption. If you are unhappy with Unity, then try
On 02/12/11 08:21, Matthew Daubney wrote:
On 2 December 2011 01:20, Ivan Wright quid...@gmail.com wrote:
I think they needed to move on and change style, we couldn't sit with a
1995 styled OS forever.
What should be done is to do away with the six month development cycle,
which is far too
On 02/12/11 08:48, Barry Drake wrote:
On 02/12/11 08:21, Matthew Daubney wrote:
Ubuntu does have a 24 month release cycle version, the LTS release.
These releases are targeted at stability more than anything else. The
next release 12.04 will be an LTS. -Matt Daubney
And it will be good!
On 02/12/11 09:00, Alan Bell wrote:
I would encourage
you to give Precise a test and file bugs
I am happy to say I have recently filed a 'bug' re the Unity GUI
because I could see that it was not doing justice to itself, and the
bug has been accepted
#887341
:-)
--
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On 02/12/11 10:27, Kris Douglas wrote:
get there but the Ubuntu developers have to remember if they scare all
their users away with very beta software, they will not easily come
back.
I think this is a real issue and there factors that are in the realm
of marketing and public relations. Where
On 02/12/11 11:53, Alan Bell wrote:
If you are selling computers
and want to pre-install Ubuntu then the OEM team might be interested if
you are getting them made in volumes of tens of thousands or more in the
far East. For less than that it is community based support through the
LoCo
On 02/12/11 13:55, Avi Greenbury wrote:
paul sutton wrote:
I am sure if you got to Microsoft or Apple or any other BIG player you
get a fast response. This is the business world i guess people want a
quick response.
Only if you pay them for it; Canonical sell that sort of support
On 02/12/11 14:53, Paula Graham wrote:
Dropbox now for my own personal use but will
I stopped using dropbox and went to spideroak when dropbox messed up
on their passwords security whatever. Anyway I actually find spideroak
much easier to understand :-/ and they hold stuff encrypted by
On 03/12/11 13:24, Avi Greenbury wrote:
Barry Drake wrote:
On 03/12/11 04:15, Liam Proven wrote:
I think it is easier if you have Mac experience. If all someone
knows is Windows, they're lost.
In a recent post, Paula said exactly the opposite - and she's working
with Windows folk at
On 02/12/11 12:12, Gareth France wrote:
It is very difficult to take a post like this seriously.
Cheers,
Andy
I don't know, it seems to have sparked a rather healthy debate.
Very much so, and I have appreciated it.
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On 02/12/11 12:17, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:12:46PM +, Gareth France wrote:
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Andy Smith a...@bitfolk.com wrote:
It is very difficult to take a post like this seriously.
I don't know, it seems to have sparked a rather healthy
On 02/12/11 15:57, Gareth France wrote:
Very true, I'm quite new here so I don't really know anyone yet. Oddly
enough everyone I'm getting to know seems to be called Alan!!
ROFL
Hey, but I was called Alan first! ( I think)
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On 02/12/11 06:04, Nigel Verity wrote:
Thunar, is a little lacking in advanced functionality
I was amazed when I found I could use thunar to change filenames en
masse using it.
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On 02/12/11 22:21, paul sutton wrote:
On 02/12/11 21:43, Barry Drake wrote:
On 02/12/11 21:40, Andres wrote:
Hi,thanks for the link but in
Alt+SysRq+R+S+E+I+U+B
but what is the SysRq button? is it in all keyboards?
Normally it is the Prt Scr button - t is labelled Prt Scr / SysRq on
most
** Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk [2011-12-03 00:42]:
On 2 December 2011 23:36, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote:
** Alan Pope a...@canonical.com [2011-12-02 11:03]:
On 01/12/11 23:52, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote:
Is Ubuntu going in the wrong direction?
I personally
** Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com [2011-12-03 09:59]:
On 2 December 2011 23:36, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote:
...
I want to add parameters to the launcher icon, or add my own application to
the
launcher (I really must find the configuration file to do this), but this
doesn't
On 03/12/11 04:15, Liam Proven wrote:
I think it is easier if you have Mac experience. If all someone knows
is Windows, they're lost.
In a recent post, Paula said exactly the opposite - and she's working
with Windows folk at FossBox on a day to day basis.
--
Barry Drake is a member of the
On 2 December 2011 23:36, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote:
...
I want to add parameters to the launcher icon, or add my own application to
the
launcher (I really must find the configuration file to do this), but this
doesn't seem possible in an easy manner yet. If the application isn't
Barry Drake wrote:
On 03/12/11 04:15, Liam Proven wrote:
I think it is easier if you have Mac experience. If all someone
knows is Windows, they're lost.
In a recent post, Paula said exactly the opposite - and she's working
with Windows folk at FossBox on a day to day basis.
I think
On 3 December 2011 08:36, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote:
On 03/12/11 04:15, Liam Proven wrote:
I think it is easier if you have Mac experience. If all someone knows is
Windows, they're lost.
In a recent post, Paula said exactly the opposite - and she's working with
Windows
On 03/12/11 13:59, Liam Proven wrote:
[1] experts who use multiple OSs and multiple GUIs and are comfortable
in all of them.
[2] techies who only really know one UI and tend to be infuriated if it changes
[3] non-techies, who don't really *know* /any/ UI and barely notice changes
Unity is fine
On 3 December 2011 15:02, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote:
On 03/12/11 13:59, Liam Proven wrote:
[1] experts who use multiple OSs and multiple GUIs and are comfortable
in all of them.
[2] techies who only really know one UI and tend to be infuriated if it
changes
[3]
On 3 December 2011 13:59, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3 December 2011 08:36, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote:
On 03/12/11 04:15, Liam Proven wrote:
I think it is easier if you have Mac experience. If all someone knows is
Windows, they're lost.
In a recent
On 3 December 2011 16:33, Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
On 3 December 2011 13:59, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3 December 2011 08:36, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote:
On 03/12/11 04:15, Liam Proven wrote:
I think it is easier if you have Mac
I think the big failing was not to prepare people for Unity and to give
little help when it hit them. There was a lot of discussion about
providing
some transitional help by way of default Unity Help on the desktop or a
Tip
of the Day facility, but nothing came of it. So now we are
On 3 December 2011 16:38, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3 December 2011 16:33, Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk
wrote:
effortlessly use multiple windows but ever used them in Gnome.
Multiple windows? I am curious - how so?
Sorry, I meant multiple workspaces. (Maybe
On 3 December 2011 17:14, Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
On 3 December 2011 16:38, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3 December 2011 16:33, Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk
wrote:
effortlessly use multiple windows but ever used them in Gnome.
Multiple
Tony Pursell wrote:
Multiple windows? I am curious - how so?
Sorry, I meant multiple workspaces. (Maybe we *should* call them
windows)
But then what would we call windows?
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On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 00:58 +, Phill Whiteside wrote:
I certainly do not wish to partake in a flame war. People are
naturally conservative. Take for example how long it took for Lubuntu
to gain adoption. If you are unhappy with Unity, then try any of the
other flavours of Ubuntu. I have to
On 02/12/11 01:20, Ivan Wright wrote:
I think they needed to move on and change style, we couldn't sit with a
1995 styled OS forever.
What should be done is to do away with the six month development cycle,
which is far too short for the amount of work needed on Unity. An 8-12
month cycle would
On 2 December 2011 09:00, Alan Bell alan.b...@libertus.co.uk wrote:
On 02/12/11 01:20, Ivan Wright wrote:
I think they needed to move on and change style, we couldn't sit with a
1995 styled OS forever.
What should be done is to do away with the six month development cycle,
which is far too
On 2 December 2011 10:27, Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
I have found myself leaving the Unity interface, which is completely
anti-developer, and moved to XFCE, which is providing me with
everything I need and more to cope with my system.
I have found that the complete lack
On 01/12/11 23:52, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote:
Is Ubuntu going in the wrong direction?
I personally don't believe so, no. I personally think it's going in
exactly the _right_ direction, but some people seem obsessed by
yesterday, today and tomorrow and not next year or next decade.
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 10:59 +, Alan Pope wrote:
On 01/12/11 23:52, thegeeksquadron@ wrote:
[...]
The attitude of Canonical is so poor - so many users have been saying what
they want; they've ignored,
Examples?
hehe Probably unrelated, but I'm still stunned with Launchpad's bug
The attitude of Canonical is so poor - so many users have been saying what
they want; they've ignored,
Examples?
I do agree with essentially everything you say Alan but as you may know I
recently set myself up selling Ubuntu systems over the net and at computer
fairs. I have a number of
On 1 December 2011 23:52, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote:
Is Ubuntu going in the wrong direction? For starters, it seems as though
hordes of users - including myself have switched over to Linux Mint and
Arch in some cases.
I've been using Ubuntu since Hardy and am sad to leave it go, but
On 02/12/11 11:30, Simon Greenwood wrote:
On 1 December 2011 23:52, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote:
Is Ubuntu going in the wrong direction? For starters, it seems as though
hordes of users - including myself have switched over to Linux Mint and
Arch in some cases.
I've been using Ubuntu
What is needed is for users to join here or local user groups so we can
discuss and swap ideas, bug reports etc.
Is there a way to make users aware these forums exist ?
When I'm out selling Ubuntu systems I give customers a support sheet,
basicly saying you can get support from these forums,
On 02/12/11 11:30, Simon Greenwood wrote:
There's no doubt that Unity has split the Ubuntu userbase considerably
I love that! There's nothing like a call for unity to split groups of
folk apart! ;-)
Regards,Barry.
--
Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team.
On 02/12/11 10:59, Alan Pope wrote:
On 01/12/11 23:52, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote:
Is Ubuntu going in the wrong direction?
I personally don't believe so, no. I personally think it's going in
exactly the _right_ direction, but some people seem obsessed by
yesterday, today and tomorrow
On 02/12/11 11:42, Gareth France wrote:
What is needed is for users to join here or local user groups so we can
discuss and swap ideas, bug reports etc.
Is there a way to make users aware these forums exist ?
When I'm out selling Ubuntu systems I give customers a support sheet,
basicly
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 11:42 +, Gareth France wrote:
What is needed is for users to join here or local user groups
so we can
discuss and swap ideas, bug reports etc.
Is there a way to make users aware these forums exist ?
When I'm out selling
On 02/12/11 11:47, scoundrel50a wrote:
And you wonder why Ubuntu is static..
What does that even _mean_?
Al.
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On 02/12/11 11:48, Juan J. Martínez wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 11:42 +, Gareth France wrote:
What is needed is for users to join here or local user groups
so we can
discuss and swap ideas, bug reports etc.
Is there a way to make users aware these
On 02/12/11 11:47, paul sutton wrote:
On 02/12/11 11:42, Gareth France wrote:
What is needed is for users to join here or local user groups so we can
discuss and swap ideas, bug reports etc.
Is there a way to make users aware these forums exist ?
When I'm out selling Ubuntu systems I give
On 02/12/11 11:17, Gareth France wrote:
The attitude of Canonical is so poor - so many users have been
saying what they want; they've ignored,
Examples?
I do agree with essentially everything you say Alan but as you may
know I recently set myself up selling Ubuntu systems over the
business. If you don't mind, I'd appreciate if you keep us updated from
time to time about the evolution of the whole thing!
Regards,
Juan
I'm hoping to build more than just some two bit pocket money business, it
would be really cool to make a dent in the operating system usage stats for
On 02/12/11 11:53, Alan Bell wrote:
On 02/12/11 11:17, Gareth France wrote:
The attitude of Canonical is so poor - so many users have been
saying what they want; they've ignored,
Examples?
I do agree with essentially everything you say Alan but as you may
know I recently set
Canonical don't support individual retailers without partner agreements
(not that they do much if you are a partner) and they don't support end
users without support contracts.
they do sell some level of support
This is great, would you have any issue with me using these in my business?
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:50 AM, paul sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:
On 02/12/11 11:47, paul sutton wrote:
On 02/12/11 11:42, Gareth France wrote:
What is needed is for users to join here or local user groups so we
There's no doubt that Unity has split the Ubuntu userbase considerably
Hey I got upset when the buttons moved from right to left!
I've tried other distros but generally find there's something that needs
fiddling to get it work whereas Ubuntu seems to set up all the stuff I want to
do more
On 02/12/11 12:01, Gareth France wrote:
Canonical don't support individual retailers without partner agreements
(not that they do much if you are a partner) and they don't support end
users without support contracts.
they do sell some level of support
I have no doubt over time we will see Gnome 2 Mk2 becoming a serious option
for some but isn't this the beauty of it, and something most people seem to
miss? You can have a different desktop for every day of the week. Unity
being usable or not doesn't mean a damn thing in reality.
On Fri, Dec 2,
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 11:52:58PM +, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote:
Not trying to start a flame war, but I loved the OLD Ubuntu, now that Ubuntu
is Mint.
For someone who is not trying to start a flame war, I would say
that posting this to the Ubuntu UK list was a very poor choice.
Other
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Andy Smith a...@bitfolk.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 11:52:58PM +, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote:
Not trying to start a flame war, but I loved the OLD Ubuntu, now that
Ubuntu is Mint.
For someone who is not trying to start a flame war, I would
On 02/12/11 12:01, Gareth France wrote:
Much as I expected to hear Alan, however I firstly feel that this is a
bad move, would it hurt them to have a range of POS display materials?
Would it hurt them if every small retailer in the country was displaying
these?
I can imagine the cost for such
Hello,
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:12:46PM +, Gareth France wrote:
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Andy Smith a...@bitfolk.com wrote:
It is very difficult to take a post like this seriously.
I don't know, it seems to have sparked a rather healthy debate.
I just can't imagine that a
On 2 December 2011 10:36, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 2 December 2011 10:27, Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
I have found myself leaving the Unity interface, which is completely
anti-developer, and moved to XFCE, which is providing me with
everything I need and
The following page specifically details that you need a trademark license.
http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/**trademarkpolicyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
Starting at the section Restricted use that requires a trademark licence.
If you wish to have permission for any of the
I just can't imagine that a single person's mind will be changed by
this thread. If the original post is taken at face value then it's
clear that a strong opinion has already been formed.
Absolutely, the only person who can change their mind is them, in their own
time, on their own.
--
On 2 December 2011 11:50, paul sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:
...
Ok, this is what i created myself
http://www.zleap.net/portfolio.html
A minor point, it is actually Firefox 8 now.
I know it is not what you were referencing, but on your sysrq document
the underlining of the keys to indicate
On 02/12/11 12:19, Gareth France wrote:
However I've been waiting since the 14th November.
can you forward me the email please.
Alan.
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On 02/12/11 11:49, Alan Pope wrote:
On 02/12/11 11:47, scoundrel50a wrote:
And you wonder why Ubuntu is static..
What does that even _mean_?
Al
Going round in cirlces again, we had this discussion not long ago and it
seems every year we have the same one (and I remember 7.04 being
On 02/12/11 12:01, Gareth France wrote:
Much as I expected to hear Alan, however I firstly feel that this is a
bad move, would it hurt them to have a range of POS display materials?
wouldn't hurt at all. http://spreadubuntu.org/ help yourself, and
contribute new ones. Getting them made up
On 02/12/11 12:20, Colin Law wrote:
On 2 December 2011 11:50, paul sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:
...
Ok, this is what i created myself
http://www.zleap.net/portfolio.html
A minor point, it is actually Firefox 8 now.
So 11.10 has firefox 8, Ok will update. however if is able to give
the
I have also now applied to the partner program. My problem has been that I
can't even find someone in Canonical to tell me what I should be doing or
applying to. 2 email pasted below.
Petra,
Thank you for your reply. Although I understand the reasoning behind the
move to cut back on CD
On 02/12/11 12:04, Gareth France wrote:
This is great, would you have any issue with me using these in my business?
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:50 AM, paul sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:
Feel free this is what the are there for, I am kinda concerned about if
I am actually allowed to use the
Now THAT's more like it!
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Alan Bell alan.b...@libertus.co.uk wrote:
On 02/12/11 12:01, Gareth France wrote:
Much as I expected to hear Alan, however I firstly feel that this is a
bad move, would it hurt them to have a range of POS display materials?
On 2 December 2011 12:27, paul sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:
On 02/12/11 12:20, Colin Law wrote:
On 2 December 2011 11:50, paul sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:
...
Ok, this is what i created myself
http://www.zleap.net/portfolio.html
A minor point, it is actually Firefox 8 now.
So 11.10 has
As I understand it, and I'm still clarifying, you can use the logo and
images as long as you are not making profit from it. So simply to spread
the word is fine. I'm now applying for permission to use the logos in my
business. I just hope it doesn't cost me a fortune!
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:31
On 02/12/11 12:26, Alan Bell wrote:
On 02/12/11 12:01, Gareth France wrote:
Much as I expected to hear Alan, however I firstly feel that this is
a bad move, would it hurt them to have a range of POS display materials?
wouldn't hurt at all. http://spreadubuntu.org/ help yourself, and
On 02/12/11 12:24, scoundrel50a wrote:
Going round in cirlces again, we had this discussion not long ago and it
seems every year we have the same one (and I remember 7.04 being
intropduced), and the same things are being talked about and the same
attitude if you dont like it, go somewhere else.
On 02/12/11 12:24, scoundrel50a wrote:
Going round in cirlces again, we had this discussion not long ago and
it seems every year we have the same one (and I remember 7.04 being
intropduced), and the same things are being talked about and the same
attitude if you dont like it, go somewhere
I meant off list, but never mind :)
you are probably better off just getting on the marketplace rather than
being a Canonical partner
http://webapps.ubuntu.com/marketplace/europe/
and yes, it may take some messing to get put on that list I need to poke
someone about it.
Alan
--
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On 02/12/11 12:46, Alan Bell wrote:
I meant off list, but never mind :)
you are probably better off just getting on the marketplace rather
than being a Canonical partner
http://webapps.ubuntu.com/marketplace/europe/
and yes, it may take some messing to get put on that list I need to
poke
Oh crap! I don't like gmail any more. I thought I had done it off list. Oh
well. This is the problem isn't it? I should've been pointed to all my
options at the start, but either nobody was willing or nobody knew what I
needed.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Alan Bell alanb...@ubuntu.com wrote:
So how do I go about getting on this list then?
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Alan Bell alanb...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I meant off list, but never mind :)
you are probably better off just getting on the marketplace rather than
being a Canonical partner
On 02/12/2011 12:49, paul sutton wrote:
On 02/12/11 12:46, Alan Bell wrote:
I meant off list, but never mind :)
you are probably better off just getting on the marketplace rather
than being a Canonical partner
http://webapps.ubuntu.com/marketplace/europe/
and yes, it may take some messing to
On 02/12/11 12:49, paul sutton wrote:
Hmm
Just tried the chat room thing on askubuntu and told it to use my
google account thing to log in
i think get the following
Welcome to The Stack Exchange Network chat! You'll need 20 reputation
to talk here. This site is moderated by the community,
On 02/12/11 12:52, scoundrel50a wrote:
On 02/12/2011 12:49, paul sutton wrote:
On 02/12/11 12:46, Alan Bell wrote:
I meant off list, but never mind :)
you are probably better off just getting on the marketplace rather
than being a Canonical partner
On 02/12/11 12:52, Alan Bell wrote:
On 02/12/11 12:49, paul sutton wrote:
Hmm
Just tried the chat room thing on askubuntu and told it to use my
google account thing to log in
i think get the following
Welcome to The Stack Exchange Network chat! You'll need 20 reputation
to talk here.
On 02/12/11 12:40, Alan Pope wrote:
On 02/12/11 12:24, scoundrel50a wrote:
Going round in cirlces again, we had this discussion not long ago and it
seems every year we have the same one (and I remember 7.04 being
intropduced), and the same things are being talked about and the same
attitude if
On 02/12/11 12:40, Alan Bell wrote:
On 02/12/11 12:24, scoundrel50a wrote:
Going round in cirlces again, we had this discussion not long ago and
it seems every year we have the same one (and I remember 7.04 being
intropduced), and the same things are being talked about and the same
attitude
I think the issue here is that the same sentence has two meanings. It's
supposed to mean 'if you want to try another distro then no hard feelings,
we're all on the same side and the other distros are fantastic.'
unfortunately the nay sayers tend to hear 'If you don't like what we offer
then you
On 02/12/11 13:17, scoundrel50a wrote:
I watch the IRC channels quite a lot, and I would say 60% of the time
its chatting about nothing, and the rest is support if the person is
understood..it can be very daunting on there
#ubuntu isn't chatting about nothing, it is all support (and people
On 02/12/11 13:28, Alan Bell wrote:
On 02/12/11 13:17, scoundrel50a wrote:
I watch the IRC channels quite a lot, and I would say 60% of the time
its chatting about nothing, and the rest is support if the person is
understood..it can be very daunting on there
#ubuntu isn't chatting about
If I had hands? You don't?
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:33 PM, scoundrel50a scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/12/11 13:28, Alan Bell wrote:
On 02/12/11 13:17, scoundrel50a wrote:
I watch the IRC channels quite a lot, and I would say 60% of the time
its chatting about nothing, and the rest is
paul sutton wrote:
I am sure if you got to Microsoft or Apple or any other BIG player you
get a fast response. This is the business world i guess people want a
quick response.
Only if you pay them for it; Canonical sell that sort of support
contract, too.
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On 2 December 2011 13:55, Avi Greenbury li...@avi.co wrote:
paul sutton wrote:
I am sure if you got to Microsoft or Apple or any other BIG player you
get a fast response. This is the business world i guess people want a
quick response.
Only if you pay them for it; Canonical sell that sort
There NEEDS to be a quick response, even if that response is 'you have to
subscribe', 'you have to upgrade', 'you're supposed to look there'! The
lack of replies from Canonical is causing me major headaches.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote:
On 2 December
On 2 December 2011 14:04, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote:
There NEEDS to be a quick response, even if that response is 'you have to
subscribe', 'you have to upgrade', 'you're supposed to look there'! The lack
of replies from Canonical is causing me major headaches.
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The difference with someone like Intel or Quantum is that they don't need
to establish their brand wheras Ubuntu has a long way to go and alienating
anyone, be it OEM, support or end user is going to cost them dearly.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote:
On
On 2 December 2011 14:11, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote:
The difference with someone like Intel or Quantum is that they don't need to
establish their brand wheras Ubuntu has a long way to go and alienating
anyone, be it OEM, support or end user is going to cost them dearly.
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Surely it has the same problem for people further down the chain?
While going through the struggling to make a brand thing recently
everyone else in the supply chain causes problems. Just because
they're a big name doesn't make the problem go away for others. This
is, however, just how the
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