Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-19 Thread Gareth France
On 11/02/13 17:54, Neil Greenwood wrote: Doesn't look like the swap is thrashing the disk - there's memory and swap free, but I/O is blocking 56% of the CPU time. Next time it happens, try getting the vmstat output that Alan suggested. My machine has had a hissy fit and lost control of the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-11 Thread Neil Greenwood
Doesn't look like the swap is thrashing the disk - there's memory and swap free, but I/O is blocking 56% of the CPU time. Next time it happens, try getting the vmstat output that Alan suggested. Neil. On Feb 10, 2013 5:49 PM, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 18:54, Alan

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-11 Thread Gareth France
On 11/02/13 17:54, Neil Greenwood wrote: Doesn't look like the swap is thrashing the disk - there's memory and swap free, but I/O is blocking 56% of the CPU time. Next time it happens, try getting the vmstat output that Alan suggested. Neil. Will do, thanks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-10 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 18:54, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:55, Gareth France wrote: On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've just had a peek and apparently

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Colin Law
On 6 February 2013 23:41, Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk wrote: On 6 February 2013 23:05, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: To the best of my knowledge I wasn't using Adobe Air at the time. And as for Flash, of course I don't choose how others design their sites. But you can

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 06/02/13 23:41, Philip Stubbs wrote: On 6 February 2013 23:05, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: To the best of my knowledge I wasn't using Adobe Air at the time. And as for Flash, of course I don't choose how others design their sites.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Colin Law
On 7 February 2013 09:52, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/02/13 23:41, Philip Stubbs wrote: On 6 February 2013 23:05, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: To the best of my knowledge I wasn't using Adobe Air at the time. And as for Flash, of course I don't choose

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 07/02/13 09:52, Gareth France wrote: On 06/02/13 23:41, Philip Stubbs wrote: On 6 February 2013 23:05, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: To the best of my knowledge I wasn't using Adobe Air at the time. And as for Flash, of course I don't

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 10:01, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 09:52, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/02/13 23:41, Philip Stubbs wrote: On 6 February 2013 23:05, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: To the best of my knowledge I wasn't using Adobe Air at the time. And as

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread alan c
On 07/02/13 10:03, Gareth France wrote: On 07/02/13 10:01, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 09:52, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/02/13 23:41, Philip Stubbs wrote: On 6 February 2013 23:05, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: To the best of my knowledge I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 10:14, alan c wrote: On 07/02/13 10:03, Gareth France wrote: On 07/02/13 10:01, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 09:52, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/02/13 23:41, Philip Stubbs wrote: On 6 February 2013 23:05, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 7 February 2013 10:17, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 10:14, alan c wrote: On 07/02/13 10:03, Gareth France wrote: On 07/02/13 10:01, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 09:52, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/02/13 23:41, Philip Stubbs

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Alan Pope
On 07/02/13 09:52, Gareth France wrote: Yes, I can choose not to use flash in much the same way as I can choose to drive my car without wheels! It's an unfortunate fact of life that some of the websites I use require it. I can try chrome and see how it goes. No, you've entirely missed the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Alan Pope
On 07/02/13 10:17, Gareth France wrote: Thanks Alan. I think the thing that gets to me is that aside from whatever I may choose to run on it I expect a machine I paid £300 for to run properly to begin with. None of these solutions address the problem. They more sort of side step it. I doubt I'm

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Colin Law
On 7 February 2013 10:31, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote: .. On 7 February 2013 10:17, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: .. Thanks Alan. I think the thing that gets to me is that aside from whatever I may choose to run on it I expect a machine I paid £300 for to run

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 10:29, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 10:17, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 10:14, alan c wrote: On 07/02/13 10:03, Gareth France wrote: On 07/02/13 10:01, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 09:52, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 10:31, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 7 February 2013 10:17, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 10:14, alan c wrote: On 07/02/13 10:03, Gareth France wrote: On 07/02/13 10:01, Colin Law wrote:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 7 February 2013 10:43, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7 February 2013 10:31, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote: .. On 7 February 2013 10:17, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: .. Thanks Alan. I think the thing that gets to me is that aside from

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 11:11, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 7 February 2013 10:43, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com mailto:clan...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7 February 2013 10:31, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com mailto:sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote: .. On 7 February 2013 10:17,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 7 February 2013 11:52, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 11:11, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 7 February 2013 10:43, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7 February 2013 10:31, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote: .. On 7 February 2013 10:17,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 11:57, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 7 February 2013 11:52, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 11:11, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 7 February 2013 10:43, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com mailto:clan...@googlemail.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 7 February 2013 11:59, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 11:57, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 7 February 2013 11:52, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 11:11, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 7 February 2013 10:43, Colin Law

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 12:02, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 7 February 2013 11:59, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 11:57, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 7 February 2013 11:52, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 12:08, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 11:59, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: ... I've switched to chromium to see what difference that makes. I'll try restarting thunderbird and see what happens When it is running slow is it using Swap memory? You can see that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread James Tait
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/13 12:08, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 11:59, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: ... I've switched to chromium to see what difference that makes. I'll try restarting thunderbird and see what happens When it is running

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 7 February 2013 12:06, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:02, Simon Greenwood wrote: I don't like switching too often to be honest. I've only just got things how I want them! Can opera receive RSS feeds? I have two linked to my supplier that tell me when

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 12:37, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 7 February 2013 12:06, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:02, Simon Greenwood wrote: I don't like switching too often to be honest. I've only just got things how I want

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 12:08, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 11:59, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: ... I've switched to chromium to see what difference that makes. I'll try restarting thunderbird and see what happens When it is running slow is it using Swap memory? You can see that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Colin Law
On 7 February 2013 12:21, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:08, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 11:59, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: ... I've switched to chromium to see what difference that makes. I'll try restarting thunderbird and see what

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread James Tait
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/13 13:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 12:21, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: Start top running in a terminal and leave it running. If you can keep the top few lines visible at the bottom of the screen then even

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Alan Pope
On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've just had a peek and apparently it's using swap memory right now! Memory 1.5Gb of 3.5Gb used Swap 658.9Mb of 3.7Gb used Using swap is not a problem. Swapping is the problem. Using swap just means there's a chunk of space on disk which is set aside

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 14:18, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've just had a peek and apparently it's using swap memory right now! Memory 1.5Gb of 3.5Gb used Swap 658.9Mb of 3.7Gb used Using swap is not a problem. Swapping is the problem. Using swap just means there's a chunk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Colin Law
On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've just had a peek and apparently it's using swap memory right now! Memory 1.5Gb of 3.5Gb used Swap 658.9Mb of 3.7Gb used Using swap is not a problem. Swapping is the problem. It

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've just had a peek and apparently it's using swap memory right now! Memory 1.5Gb of 3.5Gb used Swap 658.9Mb of 3.7Gb used Using swap is not a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Alan Pope
On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've just had a peek and apparently it's using swap memory right now! Memory 1.5Gb of 3.5Gb used Swap 658.9Mb of 3.7Gb used Using swap is not a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've just had a peek and apparently it's using swap memory right now! Memory 1.5Gb of 3.5Gb used Swap 658.9Mb of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Colin Law
On 7 February 2013 15:55, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've just had a peek and apparently

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 16:20, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 15:55, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Colin Law
On 7 February 2013 16:25, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 16:20, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 15:55, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 16:36, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 16:25, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 16:20, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 15:55, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Raul Landa
On Thu 07 Feb 2013 16:25:31 GMT, Gareth France wrote: On 07/02/13 16:20, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 15:55, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 16:55, Raul Landa wrote: On Thu 07 Feb 2013 16:25:31 GMT, Gareth France wrote: On 07/02/13 16:20, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 15:55, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Alan Pope
On 07/02/13 15:55, Gareth France wrote: On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've just had a peek and apparently it's using swap memory right now!

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Colin Law
On 7 February 2013 15:55, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've just had a peek and apparently

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-07 Thread Gareth France
On 07/02/13 20:51, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 15:55, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/13 15:50, Alan Pope wrote: On 07/02/13 15:12, Colin Law wrote: On 7 February 2013 14:18, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 07/02/13 12:47, Gareth France wrote: I've

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-06 Thread Gareth France
My system has never been much cop. Despite being only 5 months old it struggles to play an mp3 and browse the web at the same time. No idea why. However tonight it ground to a halt, the hard drive access light went mad and the mouse stopped moving. Then it moved in jerks and a variety of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-06 Thread Kris Douglas
On 6 Feb 2013 22:31, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: My system has never been much cop. Despite being only 5 months old it struggles to play an mp3 and browse the web at the same time. No idea why. However tonight it ground to a halt, the hard drive access light went mad and the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-06 Thread Gareth France
On 06/02/13 22:49, Kris Douglas wrote: On 6 Feb 2013 22:31, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: My system has never been much cop. Despite being only 5 months old it struggles to play an mp3 and browse the web at the same time. No idea why. However

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-06 Thread Paul Sladen
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Gareth France wrote: www.cliftonts.co.uk/system1.png www.cliftonts.co.uk/system2.png 'plugin-container' 100% That's the flash player; something flash on a website has probably gone AWOL. Various streaming sites still use flash-based media-players and one of these probably

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-06 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 6 February 2013 22:30, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: My system has never been much cop. Despite being only 5 months old it struggles to play an mp3 and browse the web at the same time. No idea why. However tonight it ground to a halt, the hard drive access light went mad

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-06 Thread Gareth France
On 06/02/13 22:59, Paul Sladen wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Gareth France wrote: www.cliftonts.co.uk/system1.png www.cliftonts.co.uk/system2.png 'plugin-container' 100% That's the flash player; something flash on a website has probably gone AWOL. Various streaming sites still use flash-based

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-06 Thread Gareth France
On 06/02/13 23:01, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 6 February 2013 22:30, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: My system has never been much cop. Despite being only 5 months old it struggles to play an mp3 and browse the web at the same time. No

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu unusably slow

2013-02-06 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 6 February 2013 23:05, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: To the best of my knowledge I wasn't using Adobe Air at the time. And as for Flash, of course I don't choose how others design their sites. But you can choose what software to run on your computer. Have you tried a flash