Words, words, words
I hear words all day long,
First from you, now from him
Is that all you blight-hearts can do?
Why not think before writing? Yes, the pen is mightier than the sword. But
Silence is golden. I tried complimenting you, but your tone, still
unwavering, is coming off as rude,
Since this discussion won't have an ending anytime soon, I propose a
mini-discussion on what a BID/NID or whatever you want to call it means to
you! What do you want included? What don't you want included? What benefits
should it have? How much tax are you willing to spend for it? And who should
Mr West
I apologize for not signing my last post to you. My name is Guy Laren. I
think that I did not intend to fool anyone and that not-signing was simply an
oversight. I've made the mistake before and I'll try not to make it again.
However, I was disappointed that the primary focus
Guy,
Please don't allow this type of stuff to be intimidating. There was nothing
wrong with your post. This tactic has been well examined on the list. While
there continue to be a few bullies that can't stop this type of intimidation,
remember that the majority of listserv subscribers are
Well said!
On 7/10/07 11:14 PM, John Ellingsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the response to Lomb21 highlights one of the reasons why:
a) people lurk on this list and don't post;
b) posters prefer to keep their names away from the dialogue;
c) sometimes knowing your neighbor isn't
Neighbors:
? If your car is parked on a milled street, please pay attention to where
the UCD paving crews are working.? Don't be surprised if your car disappears or
gets paved over.? (And speaking of disappeared, has anyone seen Ross lately??
I'm afraid he got loaded and left himself on the
Around the turn of the last century, there was a great ethnic theater
movement in places like New York, Boston, and Philadelphia -- where lots of
immigrants settled.
(Supposedly -- probably apocryphally) at one such performance, the famed
Jewish tenor, Morris Kaplan, keeled over in the
Very interesting morning guys.
We can call me a conspiracy theory guy for looking at the recent history of
patterns with the park and these entities. I know that only processoholics
like the Mt Airy criminals look at the past and at general patterns.
What is it that we say about FOCP and
A friend sent you an ad from The Messenger .
We are very thoughtful about the ethics of human experimentation, but
there is no Institutional Review Board that signs off before we
experiment with entire communities. Do some of the following CCD
problems sound familiar? And now, a suggestion for
You go dude! I'm glad you are ready to stand up with the people.
I'm afraid; however, that in your zeal to join the movement to restore
accountability, there is a helplessness in your voice still coming from your
time in the district.
I've noticed in the helpless portion of the middle class,
Was there any citable empirical evidence in that post or was it all opinion?
On 7/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 7/10/2007 1:44:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm still on the fence on this (as many of us might be)
The fence
At last the key was mine to those vague visions
Of sunset spires and twilight woods that boord
Dim in the gulfs beyond this earth's precisions
Lurking as memories of infinitude
The key was mine, but as I sat there mumbling
The attic window shook with a faint fumbling.
On 7/10/07, Mike V.
The NID is dead.
Al, you keep saying this as if you know it for truth. It seems to me
that the NID is only dead when (1) UCD withdraws their efforts or (2)
the vote occurs and the NID fails.
The Councilwoman also has the ability to kill (or at least block) the
NID but it's my understanding
Glenn wrote:
Very interesting morning guys.
We can call me a conspiracy theory guy for looking at the recent
history of patterns with the park and these entities. I know that
only processoholics like the Mt Airy criminals look at the past and at
general patterns.
What is it that we say
In a message dated 7/11/2007 10:38:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
she has repeatedly said she will do
what her constituents want.
Do you honestly believe that her condemnation of UCD at the First Thursday
meeting was anything but an expression of what she has
Is there any empirical evidence?
On 7/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Around the turn of the last century, there was a great ethnic theater
movement in places like New York, Boston, and Philadelphia -- where lots of
immigrants settled.
(Supposedly -- probably apocryphally)
I just ran out and got a picture with my cell phone:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/evrik/759142188/
On 7/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neighbors:
If your car is parked on a milled street, please pay attention to
where the UCD paving crews are working. Don't be
Hi all,
Can anyone give me a recommendation for someone to do repointing and chimney
repair?? Thanks in advance.
Lisa
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Melani Lamond wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
HAHA thanks melani! now we see what our neighborhood's
proposed bid looks like, compared to mt. airy's bid. you
couldn't have made my point any more nicely!
And your point was? When caught providing false information, resort
to fake laughter
This whole thing sounded a little weird, so I didn't bother to respond
-- you said that Penn's for-profits are being assessed by the NID, but
that Mt. Aiery's university's for-profits aren't, and this some how
makes UCD's NID bad, ... I don't get that, and I doubt I'm going to. I
certainly get
Perhaps one of our list attorneys knows the answer. Here's a summary:
Seller of a property has a service contract and oil purchase contract with a
local oil company. Service contract runs from April 1, 2006 to March 31,
2007.
Seller sells the property in the fall of 2006 and tells the
Anthony West wrote:
Still less powerful are the myriad of smaller community agents such as
UCD and various civic associations. In real life, they seldom act
entirely in concert with each other. And there is no mastermind, no
'Dr. No' scheming relentlessly to make every single unpleasant thing
In a message dated 7/11/07 12:03:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Melani Lamond wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
HAHA thanks melani! now we see what our neighborhood's
proposed bid looks like, compared to mt. airy's bid. you
couldn't have made my point any more nicely!
And your
At last the key was mine to those vague visions
Of sunset spires and twilight woods that brood
Dim in the gulfs beyond this earth's precisions,
Lurking as memories of infinitude.
The key was mine, but as I sat there mumbling,
The attic window shook with a faint fumbling.
-Original
I saw the body spread on that dank stone,
And knew those things which feasted were not men;
I knew this strange, grey world was not my own,
But Yuggoth, past the starry voids - and then
The body shrieked at me with a dead cry,
And all too late I knew that it was I!
-Original Message-
The day had come again, when as a child
I saw - just once - that hollow of old oaks,
Grey with a ground-mist that enfolds and chokes
The slinking shapes which madness has defiled.
It was the same - an herbage rank and wild
Clings round an altar whose carved sign invokes
That Nameless One to whom a
Ray,
Just tell Melani the pointit's probably moot and not that important if
you keep harassing her instead.
Dan Myers
On 7/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 7/11/07 12:03:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Melani Lamond wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 7/11/2007 10:58:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't believe you (or you are misinformed), especially when people are
still talking about it. You are known as a scare monger ...
They wouldn't be the same people who are still talking about
You-know-who? Voldemort? Yes, I know you are talking about Melani.
Happy Harry Potter Day to those who like him and the movies.
Scare monger is a mean term to describe you Al, and I apologize for using
it. But it seems that anytime I want to engage in a civil discussion with
you (or with the
In a message dated 7/11/2007 2:48:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So why can't I talk about a dead topic, and really ask what the community
wants?
Why not just tell us what you think you'd be willing to pay for, and that --
realistically -- the majority of
I believe that's also the reason why Ray Rorke has decided to go for one
whole year entirely without Penn money or agendas!
In truth, Friends of Clark Park has received little or no funds directly
from UCD over the years. Like any sensible non-profit public works
association, it is in the
It's because of Al's big secret -- he doesn't actually want a free and
open debate about the BID. What he wants is to obfuscate the issue with
enough vindictive rhetoric that anyone trying to actually form a
reasoned opinion about the topic can't, like a squid frantically filling
the waters with
Then who built the death ray pointed at Glenn's house?
- Mike V.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony West
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:26 PM
To: University City List
Subject: Re: [UC] A UCD world record
I believe that's also the
Do you have empirical evidence about this?
On 7/11/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greed and ego drives men to do terrible things.
- Mike V.
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dan Myers
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:48
http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/ and then again,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/.
Aw, that was too easy!
Kathleen
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B Andersen
Sent:
Hi Glenn -
Yeah, those people at the meeting probably remember Andersen popping off at
the HMS Director about toxic water ... why again did he do that? I found this
in my old email, I think it speaks for itself:
From: B Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject:
Most of this list is comprised of serial liars. By repeating their lies they
hope to convince people that what they say is true.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 7/10/07 12:03:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
speaking of apples and oranges, did the article say anything
about how
In a message dated 7/11/2007 3:33:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's because of Al's big secret -- he doesn't actually want a free and open
debate about the BID.
People who know what others are thinking remind me of the joke in Freud's
Wit and its Relation to
He wrapped himself in quotations -- as a beggar would enfold himself in
the purple of Emperors. - Kipling
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 5:06 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re:
Bill Sanderson wrote:
OK - I'll take Melani's cue: I see that you don't think much of the UCD,
but I'm skeptical about the items you listed:
---
penn's ucd has made it publicly clear that ucd has a history of corruption,
that it is in violation of irs policy
that it has alienated
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
Anthony West wrote:
Still less powerful are the myriad of smaller community agents such
as UCD and various civic associations. In real life, they seldom act
entirely in concert with each other. And there is no mastermind, no
'Dr. No' scheming relentlessly to make
John Fenton wrote:
I'm preparing a statement that should be out in the next week or so.
Sincerely,
John F. Fenton
Lifetime resident of Philadelphia
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
(haha -- he's RIGHT HERE, folks!)
john, where will your statement appear? onlist? in uc review?
John Fenton
I can't believe I'm doing this (but since I have been feeling pretty active
on this list lately)I agree with you Al. (Ack!)
I want your honest opinions where money should come from, how much, who's
wiling to help (non-financially) with the physical part, and what should be
included if we
In a message dated 7/11/2007 5:08:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 7/11/2007 3:33:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's because of Al's big secret -- he doesn't actually want a free and open
debate about the BID.
In a message dated 7/11/2007 6:23:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I want your honest opinions where money should come from, how much, who's
wiling to help (non-financially) with the physical part, and what should be
included if we decided to completely get a
In a message dated 7/11/2007 5:27:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He wrapped himself in quotations -- as a beggar would enfold himself in
the purple of Emperors. - Kipling
Kipling is long dead; few of today's youth know who he is, let alone have
studied his
Any organization I've ever been part of that has been around for some
reasonable length of time has had an employee do things they should not have
done.
That doesn't make the organization corrupt, unless it covers the situation
up and does nothing about it. That isn't what happened here.
I'll
In a message dated 7/11/2007 5:47:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2 weeks after wendell's interview in the uc review, and all
we've seen are front-page fluff pieces for ucd!
where are you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?!
Successful people know when and how to go to the
And we have seen no statement at all from John Fenton!
On 11 Jul 2007, at 5:46 PM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
John Fenton wrote:
I'm preparing a statement that should be out in the next week or
so.
Sincerely,
John F. Fenton
Lifetime resident of Philadelphia
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
Bill is correct. Ray's use of the word corrupt is false here. An
organization that ferrets out wrongdoing within its ranks and takes
prompt action to end it is the exact opposite of corrupt.
Not that I'm saying Fenton's actions were, in fact, wrong (I have no way
of knowing); simply that UCD
In a message dated 7/11/2007 8:15:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An organization that ferrets out wrongdoing within its ranks and takes
prompt action to end it is the exact opposite of corrupt.
If you are talking about UCD, you're concept of prompt is itself
No, Ray, it's the opposite of your point. When putting together a large
team of partners, none of which by itself is adequate to the task at
hand, one always seeks as much money from as many partners as possible.
No rational agent will exclude any responsible donor for any reason.
UCD's agenda
John Fenton was not low hanging fruit. He was at least halfway up the
tree. His $65,000 or so a year (as reported by Al Krigman), while
less than the $74,000 or so Al has reported for his favorite
flackette, suggests that his was a midlevel responsibility position
in a small organization
Honest to Pete, it's July, people! Don't we all have a pool we should be
jumping into, or something?
John said he'd get his statement out in a week or two. He'll do it
when he gets around to it, and somebody will print it when they get
around to it. In the meantime
What in our personal
If any knows anything about this puppy please contact Amirah at
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Thanks,
linda
-- Forwarded Message
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:31:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Has anyone lost a puppy?
Hi Linda, I found a puppy in the vicinity of 52nd and Paschall Ave (near
Woodland). It
From a PhillyBlog thread about NPDF:
Our elevator hasn't worked in over a year, the washer and dryer in
the building eats clothes, and homeless people sleep in our hallway
because of substandard locks.
http://www.phillyblog.com/philly/showthread.php?t=38558
Frank
Craig,
You are into Subliminal Orphans!? I've seen them perform twice at
the Prince theater with the Chosen Dance Co. and once at the UC Youth
Talent show at 48th Baltimore.
They are very thoughtful and good.
Joe Clarke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keeping the young and the wild on campus:
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