Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-29 Thread L a s e r B e a m ®
Brian Siano wrote: That's a point to consider when we start debating the dog run. Bring it up at a meeting. thanks for the offer to come to the table, tho it doesn't really address the broader question I've been asking, about how the table's set in the first place (ie, some people may want

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-27 Thread L a s e r B e a m ®
Brian Siano wrote: According to the FOCP website, a year's membership costs _ten dollars_. There's some discussion about raising that, which makes sense, but _ten dollars_? That's not exactly a Harvard tuition. And it gets you the newsletter. it gets you a chance to get onto a committee, it

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-27 Thread L a s e r B e a m ®
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Brian, everyone should be members of the FOCP. should everyone be members of focp for life? when should everyone be members? for how long? how often? for example, should everyone be members when they have a pet project they'd like to promote? with the

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-27 Thread L a s e r B e a m ®
Dubin, Elisabeth wrote: You guys, this logic makes no sense to me. Sorry Ray, but I want to break this down: Let's say I am a person who really believes that there should be a gigantic public bathhouse in Clark Park for all to use. Let's say that I'm really passionate about it, and I believe

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Grossman
I myself am in favor of a dog run in Clark park. For those of you who think it will not work take a look at NYC's Washington Sq. That park is probably around the same size as Clark park and it has a section of the park that is devoted to a dog run. The dog run is free to everyone and it

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-27 Thread BAShowell
When you refer to NYC, do you mean Manhattan? (There is also, Staten Island, Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx that make up NYC.) Also, that is not true, because many homes, Brownstones, etc. DO have backyards, even in the "Village"!

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Grossman
ybe people need to learn to compromise a bit :) -Paul - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update When

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Siano
L a s e r B e a m ® wrote: Brian Siano wrote: According to the FOCP website, a year's membership costs _ten dollars_. There's some discussion about raising that, which makes sense, but _ten dollars_? That's not exactly a Harvard tuition. And it gets you the newsletter. it gets you a chance to

RE: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread Dubin, Elisabeth
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L a s e r B e a m (r) Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 6:16 PM To: univcity@list.purple.com Subject: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update Stephen Fisher wrote: http://www.phillydog.org http://www.phillydog.org/proposal.pdf http

RE: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread Christine Miller
, January 25, 2005 10:25 AM To: L a s e r B e a m R; univcity@list.purple.com Subject: RE: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update I believe the point is to create a _public_ dog run. We already have a non-public dog run a bit farther west. I don't understand Ray's logic below because child

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread L a s e r B e a m ®
Dubin, Elisabeth wrote: I believe the point is to create a _public_ dog run. We already have a non-public dog run a bit farther west. I don't understand Ray's logic below because child owners do not pay to use the tot lot, and no one pays to use the park in general. ok, my logic in asking what

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread Brian Siano
L a s e r B e a m ® wrote: Dubin, Elisabeth wrote: I believe the point is to create a _public_ dog run. We already have a non-public dog run a bit farther west. I don't understand Ray's logic below because child owners do not pay to use the tot lot, and no one pays to use the park in general.

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread Krfapt
In a message dated 1/25/2005 2:02:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fact is that Clark Park belongs to the Department of Recreation. They make the final decision. And last I checked, one doesn't have to "join" the Department of Recreation to lobby them

RE: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread Dubin, Elisabeth
-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update Dubin, Elisabeth wrote: I believe the point is to create a _public_ dog run. We already have a non-public dog run a bit farther west. I don't understand Ray's logic below because child owners do not pay to use the tot lot, and no one pays to use

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread L a s e r B e a m ®
Brian Siano wrote: Ray is confused. He seems to think that the decision of the membership of the FOCP would be the be-all and end-all of the matter. well no, I'm not confused. I'm not saying focp is the be-all and end-all of the matter. I'm asking about something broader than that, about the

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread Stephen Fisher
To follow up on Brian's post, this is also partly why I created the dog run petition. I think the FoCP process is important. Community members who are not associated with FoCP are also important. http://www.phillydog.org/petition.pdf Happy snowy day, Stephen L a s e r B e a m ® wrote: Dubin,

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread L a s e r B e a m ®
Stephen Fisher wrote: To follow up on Brian's post, this is also partly why I created the dog run petition. I think the FoCP process is important. Community members who are not associated with FoCP are also important. http://www.phillydog.org/petition.pdf Happy snowy day, Stephen hi, I

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread BGAndersen
Ha ha. That was pretty funny. Please give me an example of ANYONE who works both sides of an issue. In a message dated 1/25/05 5:51:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... it seems to me that if you were really REALLY interested in process, and in community members, you would be circulating two

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread Brian Siano
L a s e r B e a m ® wrote: hi, I think the process between community members and their elected representatives is a real important process, too. and it seems to me that if you were really REALLY interested in process, and in community members, you would becirculating two petitions, one for a

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread Krfapt
In a message dated 1/25/2005 6:01:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ha ha. That was pretty funny. Please give me an example of ANYONE who works both sides of an issue.In a message dated 1/25/05 5:51:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... it seems to me that if you

Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-25 Thread BGAndersen
I agree with Brian, everyone should be members of the FOCP. In a message dated 1/25/05 6:45:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: L a s e r B e a m ® wrote: hi, I think the process between community members and their elected representatives is a real important process, too. and it seems to me

[UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-24 Thread L a s e r B e a m ®
Stephen Fisher wrote: http://www.phillydog.org http://www.phillydog.org/proposal.pdf http://www.phillydog.org/figure.pdf In creating a plan for the dog run, we really tried to address as many concerns as possible. As this process continues, we would like to continue trying to accommodate

[UC] RE: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

2005-01-21 Thread Dubin, Elisabeth
You want to change that figure out with the no-date, no-discussion one? I didn't realize you were going to post it right away. ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier ARCHITECTURE One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F 215 636-9989 | hillier.com -Original Message-