Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Robert Brenstein
But as for getting going with Mac, I believe all Mac versions are included in the Mac license, which would mean both OS X and the older Classic. I can't imagine RunRev would charge separately for the defunct OS 9. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation I was going to let this

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Brenstein wrote: But as for getting going with Mac, I believe all Mac versions are included in the Mac license, which would mean both OS X and the older Classic. I can't imagine RunRev would charge separately for the defunct OS 9. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation I

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Chipp Walters
Tom, check out www.buttongadget.com -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

revSpeak, Win XP, memory bloat.....Stupid Agents

2004-02-25 Thread Mathewson
UMM! So to use revSpeak at present in Win XP we have to go back to the future (i.e. the usual Windows nonsense) So here's Richmond happily building a prototype Intelligent Agent (!!! Yes, Really !!!) Complete with zombie-like character revSpeaking the usual daft phrases (remember

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We have to develop multiuser programs like accounting and billing software with very intensive database use, the prefered databases are PostgreSql and Firebird. i'm currently writing a tool to be used at a print shop that allows for tracking of all the jobs and clients, as well as all the

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 25, 2004, at 01:41 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: A majority of Mac sales across all products I manage are still for Classic. This is important for me to know. That some percentage are OS X and some greater percentage are pre OS X means little of those of the older OS are

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi, I'm designing, programming and mantaining such kind of n-tier applications under Linux (since 1998) and MacOSX (since 2003). Most of those apps are designed to be served over the Internet to Web browsers or dedicated proprietary end-users clients. Those apps are buid around Metacard

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread A.C.T.
Hi, Anybody could point me to samples of big applications developed with Revolution? Details? Reports? Links? check out hemmingway, but i have a feeling the majority of large projects are internal, or still being built.. being new to Revolution I won't be able to actually ANSWER the question.

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread A.C.T.
Hi, Dar, This is important for me to know. That some percentage are OS X and some greater percentage are pre OS X means little of those of the older OS are not spending money. Speaking from experiences with my customers (publishers, marketing agencies) I can say: Many MAC users still refuse

Serious applications - check these out

2004-02-25 Thread Alex Adams
I suggest you check into Omnis which is a 25+ years mature cross platform client/server application development environment that has direct connections to most database back ends. I've been using this product since 1989 to great effect. They also have a powerful web solution. This tool is

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
FWIW, This has not been my experience for almost two years now. Almost all OS9 users that have actually seen OSX in action(usually from my machine) have switched. Photoshop is sound and Quark is coming along. Office is Ok but anyone who uses OSX even for a few months 'admits' how much more

Re: XP Embedded and Revolution

2004-02-25 Thread Dar Scott
On Monday, February 23, 2004, at 06:00 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Tuesday morning I will attend a presentation on Windows XP Embedded. Has anybody run command-line Revolution on XP Embedded? Any idea whether that might work? How about a regular gui standalone? We discussed this at the presentation

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread David Burgun
At 3:32 PM +0100 25/2/04, A.C.T. wrote: Hi, Dar, This is important for me to know. That some percentage are OS X and some greater percentage are pre OS X means little of those of the older OS are not spending money. Speaking from experiences with my customers (publishers, marketing agencies)

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread A.C.T.
Hi, Thomas, I think the word was slow at first but now has picked up speed and the switch is happening very fast now. that's why I wrote: It is hard to predict. Maybe it is different on your side of the Atlantic ;-) The publishers I work with are generally old fashioned, some of them love

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
3S, You need to give Rev more than just a couple of hours to get a realistic feel for how it can help you. I have turned a few people's addiction to Director upside down with my very first Rev product. The company I work for did not understand the import of REV as a RAD, BUT the outsource

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Pierre Sahores
100%, the same experience, there :) -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 41 60 52 68 Dom:+33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Inspection académique de Seine-Saint-Denis Applications et SGBD

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Marc, Yeah, I can't speak for across the ocean but only here on the east coast of the US. If I read your and others responses correctly then I would assume that for at least 18 months OS9 will be the dominant OS where you are. Most things I have seen are either 18 months behind or ahead, like

are image objects moveable?

2004-02-25 Thread kweto
Is there a (simple) way of enabling a user to use a mouse to pick up an (Bimage object and then move it around on a card? I.e., click and hold on an (Bimage with mouse left-button, move image by moving mouse, and then release (Bmouse left-button. (B (BAlso, if the reason for moving the image

Re revSpeak, Win XP, memory bloat.....Stupid Agents

2004-02-25 Thread DVGlasgow
In a message dated 25/2/04 2:18:53 pm, Mathewson writes: The idea is. have a few silent MOV files with zombie-character mouthing (i.e.e meant to look like speaking) and then loads of revSpeak lines in fields that can be paired with the MOVsnot completely daft! Hmmm. Not sure I

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Cozens
to me this is a question of productivity: I have to learn a language that does not give me any benefits over those I am already familiar Look a little harder, Marc. Productivity? How many lines of C does it take to replicate the functionality of the new stack and new card commands? How many

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Cozens
has been testing Revolution for a couple of hours and looks a little bit inmature Hi Jose, Looks can be deceiving: there is power in simplicity. I have used Transcript to create a generic, hierarchical, client/server database. I am working on a project to convert to Transcript an existing

Array Basics

2004-02-25 Thread Bojsza
I am starting to forage into arrays and have some very basic questions: 1. What is the difference between an array and a matrix? The following script is to take a 3x1 array and multiply it by a 1x3 array on mouseUp put empty into xArray put empty into zArray put 1 2 3 into xArray split

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Chipp, That won't do what I want. I need to combine two images in one button and then have it act like one button as a 'real' button. I have a special button look and feel and want to include that. Then I want to put a special icon into that special button look and feel. Then I want it to act

Re: are image objects moveable?

2004-02-25 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Nicolas, you might want to put something like this into the images script: on mousemove x,y if the mouse is down then set the loc of me to x,y end if end mouseMove If you want to check if the object is over another object you might want to use the intersect function for a start: if

Re: revSpeak, Win XP, memory bloat.....Stupid Agents

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I agree with the Bloat that mov.'s and sounds will produce. I tried a 'computer buddy' app in SC and found two much bloat. FWIW You can license DEC talk on Windows and Mac and include them with your software. DEC talk is not that great but is widely used. I know a company that does this.

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Not to mention that REV can be configured by you to allow a lab approach for different coders to work on different aspects at the same time (Libraries and shared function names). That would be real RAD + RAD increasing the time. Now, I do know of some areas where REV won't work. My client has

Proportions of OS pre-X OS X users (was: RunRev Pricing)

2004-02-25 Thread Ian Wood
My experience in the UK is that the print industry is the most resistant, mainly because they often have complex workflows and it would take time to reproduce those workflows on OS X. In addition, the print industry is so hard-pressed that they often run very old equipment, my local (tiny)

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/25/04 9:49 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Chipp, That won't do what I want. I need to combine two images in one button and then have it act like one button as a 'real' button. I have a special button look and feel and want to include that. Then I want to put a special icon into that

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Ops
A.C.T. wrote: snip You would always have to have developers that can talk transcript, which is not as likely as finding professionals that speak C, C++, Java etc. pp. Personally I find it very hard to learn Transcript (being a stubborn Assembler/machine language/C/C++/Shellscript/PHP

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Jac, But since I am dealing with hundreds and hundreds of buttons And users will be adding custom buttons icons I want to do the combining from within REV. The base button will be only about 3-5 types but the icons on those will be in the hundreds and maybe thousands. But only a hundred or so

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread John Tenny
I'm a Technology Integration Mentor for 6 universities (Education Departments) on the US West coast, and all have switched to OS X (one even moving from Windows to Mac). All have increased wireless dramatically on their campuses, and all have portable classroom sets of laptops. In my small

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Cozens
Productivity? The following is not a rhetorical question: I asked this once before did not see an answer posted. Does the CW, or any C debugger, debug at the source code level? Can the C testing environment take you directly to the line of code generating a runtime error? ...and let you

Re: Serious applications - check these out

2004-02-25 Thread Joël Guillod
On 25.2.2004 16:17, Alex Adams wrote : Also check out Apple's WebObjects. New to me, but it looks really good. YES, actually it is! And of course reliable and easy small to large scale deployment: the Apple store runs under WebObjects. I use it for medical images database and image processing

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Cozens
has been testing Revolution for a couple of hours and looks a little bit inmature Jose, et al: It occurs to me that my initial take was to associate immature with beginner-ish amateurish, terms previously seen in this context. However, immature can also mean in a juvenile state of

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 25, 2004, at 8:41 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: The following is not a rhetorical question: I asked this once before did not see an answer posted. Does the CW, or any C debugger, debug at the source code level? Absolutely. Many C IDEs have debuggers that shame Runrev's debugger. Apple's XCode

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote: I need to combine two images in one button and then have it act like one button as a 'real' button. I have a special button look and feel and want to include that. Then I want to put a special icon into that special button look and feel. Then I want it to

Re: are image objects moveable?

2004-02-25 Thread Marty Billingsley
kweto [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks Is there a (simple) way of enabling a user to use a mouse to pick up an image object and then move it around on a card? I.e., click and hold on an image with mouse left-button, move image by moving mouse, and then release mouse left-button. A down-and-dirty way

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread A.C.T.
Hi, Rob, Look a little harder, Marc. I am the hardest looker :-) Productivity? Yes. Meaning the time needed to solve a problem. How many lines of C does it take to replicate the functionality of the new stack and new card commands? A link to the correct library - that's about one line, I'd

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread A.C.T.
Hi, Rob, Productivity? The following is not a rhetorical question: I asked this once before did not see an answer posted. Does the CW, or any C debugger, debug at the source code level? Can the C testing environment take you directly to the line of code generating a runtime error? ...and let

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
So, my greatest available choice here looks like linking images together in a group and making that 'act' like a button. OK. I will look into that. thanks tom On Feb 25, 2004, at 12:10 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote: I need to combine two images in one button and

Dan Shafer's eBook Problem

2004-02-25 Thread David Burgun
Hi, I just bought and downloade d Dan Shafer's eBook and get a file called: RevBookVol1.pdfr.pdf However, when I try to open it, I get the following dialog: There was an error opening this document the viewer cannot decrypt this document Any ideas? Thanks a lot Dave

Language Manager - call for comments

2004-02-25 Thread MisterX
Hi everyone, As you know your software could be hitting more international public than your time could permit in language education and in time to translate your software. To this little problem, I propose a GUI language manager API and editor set to make that process automatic and basically

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Cozens
But more and more the compile/link part of C programming is being hidden as an option. Thank you for reducing my ignorance, Alex. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Cozens
I'd say a call of the right function in the correct library takes about one line. and how many lines are in the function? But C or C++ isn't a language on its own, as you depict. You always access a large pool of libraries, you (surely?) don't reinvent wheels, tires or women every time you

Re: Serious applications - check these out

2004-02-25 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 25, 2004, at 9:49 AM, Joël Guillod wrote: Also check out Apple's WebObjects. New to me, but it looks really good. YES, actually it is! And of course reliable and easy small to large scale deployment: the Apple store runs under WebObjects. I use it for medical images database and image

Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi everybody, thank you very much for your comments. Well looks that I not choosed the right term, serious applications, but most of you understood it. You are right a couple of hours is not enough to decide if Revolution is the right tool for us. What I liked in Revolution and spent some time

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I have made my down state and up state 'base' button as the icons of those states in a transparent button and it looks great. I want to link a small icon on top of that button and when the user clicks with the mouse to send mousedown and up to that button 'through' the icon. Rev is not doing

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Use Revolution as the front end!! Since REv loads in ram it will be fast and furious. Others can tell you how to integrate the DB. Tom On Feb 25, 2004, at 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, thank you very much for your comments. Well looks that I not choosed the right term,

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Cozens
Just curious, Marc: What is the regular expression to replicate the functionality of get word 3 of item 6 of line 17 of someText? or how about: put 0 into word3Total repeat for each line theValues in someText add word 3 of item 6 of theValues to word3Total end repeat ? -- Rob Cozens

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Cozens
What mean serious applications for me? imagine an accounting-billing solution to be used for 10-100 users in different languages and in different enviroments. We are talking about hundred thousands or even millions records in tables. We need a powerful database engine: PostgreSql or Firebird

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Mark Wieder
A.C.T.- Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 9:25:43 AM, you wrote: ACT The question starting this thread was for serious apps - aside from ACT this terminus not being defined I tried to express my own problems. I ACT apologize that I sounded like attacking Transcript - I did not mean to, ACT as you

Re: contains operator

2004-02-25 Thread hershrev
So thanks every body . this what we got .. 1) if not (x contains y) then -- 2) if x contains y is false then -- thanks On Wednesday, February 25, 2004, at 02:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, how do I use the contains operator in a negative way meaning  does not contain

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Mark Wieder
jbv- Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 11:59:18 AM, you wrote: j Seriously, do you really think it'll take long for any english-speaking j person with a coder bkground to understand set visible of btn 1 to true ? Nope - not my point at all. The hard part is convincing people they should learn

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread jbv
Nope - not my point at all. The hard part is convincing people they should learn something new. This isn't a technical issue, just a social one. So may be the trick is to convince them that they DO NOT need to learn anything new... IOW that Rev is based on concepts they already know... JB

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: I think the hard task in front of RunRev is convincing current programmers that they should learn a new language and syntax. From Perl to Java to JavaScript to C to C++ to Objective C, this is always the challenge. Let folks use what they prefer. Transcripters won't force

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread A.C.T.
Sorry, So may be the trick is to convince them that they DO NOT need to learn anything new... IOW that Rev is based on concepts they already know... one trick could be to answer my question (posted twice): Where can I find a manual that I can read/print out normally without having to use the

Re: Array Basics

2004-02-25 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 9:48 AM -0600 2/25/2004, Bojsza wrote: 1. What is the difference between an array and a matrix? There's no basic difference; a matrix is a particular kind of array. (Specifically, a matrix is a two-dimensional array with one-based numeric keys.) [...] put 2 3 4 into zArray -- create a 1x3

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
You can buy a printed manual from REV or you can buy a book from Don Shafer. HTH On Feb 25, 2004, at 3:21 PM, A.C.T. wrote: Sorry, So may be the trick is to convince them that they DO NOT need to learn anything new... IOW that Rev is based on concepts they already know... one trick could be

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
A.C.T. wrote: If someone could point me to where I can simply READ the COMPLETE manual instead of having to use the mouse all the time ... Geoff Canyon once made an exporter for the docs -- hopefully he'll chime in with a URL. But you raise an interesting point about keyboard access. The Win

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread jbv
From Perl to Java to JavaScript to C to C++ to Objective C, this is always the challenge. Let folks use what they prefer. (snip) Folks who enjoy a certain comfort with their current language will remain with what they know. Sometimes that's a productive decision, sometimes not. After

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread A.C.T.
Moin, Thomas, You can buy a printed manual from REV or you can buy a book from Don Shafer. All I want to do is print out the manual that I already have here, included in the Revolution application. I cannot deal with the very very small windows displaying one or two sentences and having to

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread hershrev
On Wednesday, February 25, 2004, at 01:12 PM, Rob Cozens wrote: What mean serious applications for me? imagine an accounting-billing solution to be used for 10-100 users in different languages and in different enviroments. We are talking about hundred thousands or even millions records in tables.

RE: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Ken Ray
Marc, I have an earlier version of the Rev docs (1.1.1) in text, DOC and PDF formats here: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads.htm As soon as I can get an exported copy of the 2.1.2 docs I'll let you know. But at least you could start there... :-) Ken Ray Sons of

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 25, 2004, at 11:15 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Should I group them??? should I 'do' something to the icon image??? You can group and put mouse handlers in the group. If some images should not be included in mouse event catching, then your may have to organize grouping

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread A.C.T.
Moin, Ken, I have an earlier version of the Rev docs (1.1.1) in text, DOC and PDF formats here: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads.htm Thanks a lot! So I have something to read tonight :-) Marc Albrecht A.C.T. / Level-2 Glinder Str. 2 27432 Ebersdorf Deutschland Tel. (+49)

Re: Dan Shafer's eBook Problem

2004-02-25 Thread HyperChris
Try upgrading to Acrobat Reader v6.0.x when I try to open it, I get the following dialog: There was an error opening this document the viewer cannot decrypt this document ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 25, 2004, at 1:39 PM, A.C.T. wrote: All I want to do is print out the manual that I already have here, included in the Revolution application. I cannot deal with the very very small windows displaying one or two sentences and having to click with the mouse 30 times a minute just to read

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Pierre Sahores
Le 25 févr. 04, à 19:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : We are talking about hundred thousands or even millions records in tables. We need a powerful database engine: PostgreSql or Firebird prefered. 200 connections peer second peer processor equals 200*3600*12 (8 64 000) equals lots of power

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 25, 2004, at 1:55 PM, A.C.T. wrote: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads.htm Thanks a lot! So I have something to read tonight :-) That format is useless IMHO. 3000+ pages, and it's the *Transcript Dictionary only* missing: By Category, Welcome, Recommendations,

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 7:39 PM -0100 2/25/2004, A.C.T. wrote: All I want to do is print out the manual that I already have here, included in the Revolution application. I cannot deal with the very very small windows displaying one or two sentences and having to click with the mouse 30 times a minute just to read

Re: Array Basics

2004-02-25 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 25, 2004, at 08:48 AM, Bojsza wrote: on mouseUp put empty into xArray put empty into zArray put 1 2 3 into xArray split xArray by space -- create an array from a list (3x1 array) put 2 3 4 into zArray -- create a 1x3 array matrixMultiply(xArray,zArray) put it into

Printing problem

2004-02-25 Thread David Squance
Having received no response to my previous post, I'll simplify my query. One of the two problems is that Rev is freezing every time I attempt to print a card. I downloaded a fresh copy of RR2.1.2 and it made no difference. I can only assume that it is something I've done. It started with my

Re: RunRev Pricing

2004-02-25 Thread Dom
Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Mac users can be the most stubborn users in the world. Hmmm... they were told years ago something like rumors of demise of HyperCard is pure b***s*** Mac users may be as stubborn as a donkey, they have also the memory of this sympathetic animal

Re: Serious Apps New Statistics plugin available for countingyour scripts...

2004-02-25 Thread Chipp Walters
Rob Cozens got me to thinking about Hemingway and just how many lines of code there are in it..So, I first (of course) had to create a new altPlugin called altStats which can count lines, words, chars. For those altPlugin users it's at:

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Wed Feb 25 Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have made my down state and up state 'base' button as the icons of those states in a transparent button and it looks great. I want to link a small icon on top of that button and when the user clicks with the mouse to send mousedown and

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:20:23 +0100 Mark Albrecht wrote: So: Probably serious applications are not a problem to do with Revolution if you have the time and money to get your code-slaves speak Transcript. Ah! Learning a new computer language. How much time did it takes to learn a new

RE: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Ken Ray
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads.htm Thanks a lot! So I have something to read tonight :-) That format is useless IMHO. 3000+ pages, and it's the *Transcript Dictionary only* Sorry, Alex, but that's not true. It is the export from Geoff Canyon's RevRTFer stack,

RE: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Peter T. Evensen
When I used it, it was looking for a documentation category that no longer exists in 2.1, so you may have to tweek the script. At 04:30 PM 2/25/2004, you wrote: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads.htm Thanks a lot! So I have something to read tonight :-) That format

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Graham Samuel
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:19:13 -0800, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But a lot of programmers, developers, software publishers, IT shops, and hobbyists are always on the lookout for greater productivity and stronger ROI. For them Rev has a liberating answer. [snip] I agree completely

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Brian Yennie
A link to the correct library - that's about one line, I'd say. Except when there isn't a free library that launches an entire scriptable RAD environment in one line. Not taking into account that I do never need to get word 3 of item 6 of line 17 but usually use some regexp for such tasks - I'd

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Brian Yennie
The question starting this thread was for serious apps - aside from this terminus not being defined I tried to express my own problems. I apologize that I sounded like attacking Transcript - I did not mean to, as you all noticed, I can not judge about Transcript. Agreed. I don't see it as an

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
That is the best approach I've heard so far. Don't down mouth them but rather show them up. The Director factory I was dealing with knew they could not beat my development time schedule for my big cd project so they went out and downloaded the Rev eval. That alone made them pay attention. Real

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I'm going there now. Tell ya later, Thanks Tom On Feb 25, 2004, at 5:08 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: On Wed Feb 25 Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have made my down state and up state 'base' button as the icons of those states in a transparent button and it looks great. I want to

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Graham Samuel wrote: I guess we Revvers should be able to answer the question can RunRev cut the mustard in an industrial-scale context? Would RR be suitable for a development involving 10, 20 or more staff?. Case in point: this afternoon I'm building a stack-based content-editing system for

what does install mean?

2004-02-25 Thread Erik Hansen
what does install mean? no Transcript Dictionary listing 71 listings in Search the Docs using lab computers means installing for each use from a ZIP disk, not what was initially planned. start using stack urStack send installIt to cd 1 of stack urStack something called an Application by Finder

Re: Printing problem

2004-02-25 Thread David Squance
You probably have a timing issue that you are not allowing enough time in your loop for rev to put the item to be printed to collect and then send to your printer. Check out your loop and with messages etc. Thanks for the reply. I don't understand it, however. What loop? The script masks the

scale only for eps

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Does anyone know why eps's are so special they get a scale property Why can't graphics or images get this property as well It's not fair. Thanks Tom Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003

Re: Printing problem

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I assume to get the contents you must go through each field??? if not then there is not loop. Timing after a print command is what I meant. It is always best to allow time for these things to complete. Tom I'm trying to print the content of a couple dozen fields in a sort of contrived array

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Chipp Walters
Tom, Your stack has 83 lines of code. I created the same effect with 0 lines of code. go url http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/4Tom/4Tom.rev; -Chipp Thomas McGrath III wrote: I would like to share this small stack with you guys. It shows the two buttons grouped with the code. I think it is

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Chipp, 1. I must not have said that the button shape, size, look, and drop shadow 'must' be that image I used. This is in order to emulate proprietary software written in C used on a hardware device. It is written in C to give a very small footprint in the device. 2. The icon above that

Re: custom buttons

2004-02-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
My Bad,, I didn't include the images in that file. this one has it I swear go URL http://users.adelphia.net/~3mcgrath/Buttons.rev; Tom On Feb 25, 2004, at 7:42 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I would like to share this small stack with you guys. It shows the two buttons grouped with

Re: Printing problem

2004-02-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/25/04 3:31 PM, David Squance wrote: One of the two problems is that Rev is freezing every time I attempt to print a card. I downloaded a fresh copy of RR2.1.2 and it made no difference. I can only assume that it is something I've done. It started with my current project--a very simple one

Re: Printing problem

2004-02-25 Thread David Squance
On 2/25/04 3:31 PM, David Squance wrote: One of the two problems is that Rev is freezing every time I attempt to print a card. I downloaded a fresh copy of RR2.1.2 and it made no difference. I can only assume that it is something I've done. It started with my current project--a very simple

Re: Printing problem

2004-02-25 Thread David Squance
I see. I guess I wasn't clear enough before. There's no cycling. It just prints the card (there's only one in the stack) after hiding what I don't want to print. Also nothing is waiting to happen after the print, so I can't see how timing could be an issue. Do you think there should be some

Re: Printing problem

2004-02-25 Thread David Squance
On 2/25/04 3:31 PM, David Squance wrote: One of the two problems is that Rev is freezing every time I attempt to print a card. I downloaded a fresh copy of RR2.1.2 and it made no difference. I can only assume that it is something I've done. It started with my current project--a very simple

Important question regarding next major Rev version

2004-02-25 Thread Valetia Lowe
Hi all, Warning: The following should be viewed as serious constructive criticism, much like how Mac users criticize Apple management sometimes, when they do something silly to a nice product. So don't take it the wrong way. I've been programming since HyperCard was first introduced and I do

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Cozens
But I _am_ saying that every C, C++, Java, PHP, Shellscript programmer will be able to understand it Gee, Marc, I kinda figured every English-speaking programmer (and even some non programmers) could understand: put 0 into word3Total repeat for each line theValues in someText add word 3 of

Re: Serious applications

2004-02-25 Thread Rob Cozens
Which download is the sql examples None. I use SDB not SQL myself. I was simply noting that Revolution supports several different SQL dbs. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best

Re: Important question regarding next major Rev version

2004-02-25 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 25, 2004, at 11:51 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Valetia Lowe wrote: 3. No support for native re-ordering of items in a list field! Again, I had to spend an entire day just re-creating something that comes built into every OS!! What's the API for that? I was under the impression it

Re: Important question regarding next major Rev version

2004-02-25 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 25, 2004, at 11:35 PM, Valetia Lowe wrote: Will the upcoming release of rev take care of *ALL* of these issues Really??? On all platforms including Windows?? Those who can respond in detail to what's in the next release are under non-disclosure agreement. But I sympathize and

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