Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-05 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 3/3/08 15:30, David Bovill wrote: I use a similar technique for storing stacks in SVN. When scripts are saved I have hooks which also export text files to SVN and write out metadata for indexing purposes. Hi David, Just to clarify - are these hooks in your Rev IDE, or hooks in Subversion

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-05 Thread David Bovill
On 05/03/2008, Ben Rubinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/3/08 15:30, David Bovill wrote: I use a similar technique for storing stacks in SVN. When scripts are saved I have hooks which also export text files to SVN and write out metadata for indexing purposes. Hi David, Just to

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-05 Thread David Bovill
That's smart Mark - if I have got you right. That would make your diffs a diff script - that is a shorter script that you can execute on a stack to make an update? Or am I dreaming :) On 03/03/2008, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David- I use a similar technique for storing stacks in

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-05 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 5/3/08 17:31, David Bovill wrote: On 05/03/2008, Ben Rubinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/3/08 15:30, David Bovill wrote: I use a similar technique for storing stacks in SVN. When scripts are saved I have hooks which also export text files to SVN and write out metadata for indexing

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Wieder
David- That's smart Mark - if I have got you right. That would make your diffs a diff script - that is a shorter script that you can execute on a stack to make an update? Or am I dreaming :) You could do it that way (and it would be easier to archive them that way) but I went the other

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-04 Thread Dave
On 1 Mar 2008, at 20:08, Mark Wieder wrote: Dave- Saturday, March 1, 2008, 3:43:43 AM, you wrote: I found the best way to handle this was to export all the script as text files and them to a compare/merge of the source code and import the text files back into a master stack that is used to

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
mfstuart wrote: I have some questions as to even if RunRev allows itself to be a software development tool for development teams. So here are my questions: Who is using RunRev in a group development environment? (reply if you are) Many here and elsewhere. How many developers are on the

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-04 Thread Josh Mellicker
On Mar 2, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: And does it offer any kind of diff or comparison features? TextWrangler has a well-implemented Compare Two Front Documents feature that I have found really useful. (pasting the latest version of a huge stack script into one text doc and

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-03 Thread David Bovill
I use a similar technique for storing stacks in SVN. When scripts are saved I have hooks which also export text files to SVN and write out metadata for indexing purposes. I started with XML files, but as most of the changes were script based and I wanted the code readable and documented I moved

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-03 Thread Mark Wieder
David- I use a similar technique for storing stacks in SVN. When scripts are saved I have hooks which also export text files to SVN and write out metadata for indexing purposes. What I have settled on is saving a stack as a text file series of xtalk commands for recreating it: create

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-03 Thread Sivakatirswami
Andre Garzia wrote: Yes, I use magic carpet daily and it saves a lot of time. Me and Sivakatirswami works on the same projects using magic carpet and we never run into a problem. I think Magic Carpet is one of the killer apps available for Revolution Developers and anyone doing serious work in

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-02 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 1/3/08 21:33, Chipp Walters wrote: Coming a bit late to this party. I've successfully used Rev in a multi-developer environment using our own auto-update architecture and MagicCarpet. It basically works like this. Individual developers check out stacks from a web server using MagicCarpet,

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-02 Thread Chipp Walters
Ben, No, it only manages stacks. No diff'ing. It's fairly simple as it uploads and keeps track of changes for individual stacks. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-01 Thread viktoras didziulis
Unfortunately a few functions in Rev require use of ID (or long ID) when referring to objects... RevDictionary says: use the altID property to specify an additional ID for an object. Both the ID and the altID property are checked when you refer to an object by ID. Of course it would be nice

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-01 Thread Thierry
Hi viktoras, Unfortunately a few functions in Rev require use of ID (or long ID) when referring to objects... Yes, you're right but what I'm saying is to not manage the references of your objects with ids numbers written in the code. Therefore, the relevant question could be if it's

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-01 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, It might be interesting for you to know that DIFfersifier exports all properties of stacks to XML now. The result is an amost correct XML file, that can be parsed and interpreted by all specialized XML viewers. It should be possible to reconstruct your stack from it, except the ID

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-01 Thread Dave
On 29 Feb 2008, at 08:01, Malte Brill wrote: Hi Mark, Who is using RunRev in a group development environment? (reply if you are) Me :) How many developers are on the team? Up to 5 Are the developers in the same office or are the team members spread over different regions or

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Dave- Saturday, March 1, 2008, 3:43:43 AM, you wrote: I found the best way to handle this was to export all the script as text files and them to a compare/merge of the source code and import the text files back into a master stack that is used to build the standalone application. For

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- Friday, February 29, 2008, 5:33:40 PM, you wrote: pehaps a good reason to use the altID property or use unique names!! Actually, ids can be used as long as you don't need absolute values for objects other than images. If you refer to group id 4567 instead of group xyzzy then this

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-01 Thread Mark Wieder
viktoras- Saturday, March 1, 2008, 1:11:24 AM, you wrote: Of course it would be nice to have a possibility to set any ID from script (should we ask for an enhancement, is this possible at all?). That's BZ #4046 already. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-01 Thread Chipp Walters
Coming a bit late to this party. I've successfully used Rev in a multi-developer environment using our own auto-update architecture and MagicCarpet. It basically works like this. Individual developers check out stacks from a web server using MagicCarpet, work on them, then check them back in

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-01 Thread Jerry Daniels
Yes, indeed. Jerry Daniels Daniels Mara, Inc. Makers of GLX2 http://www.daniels-mara.com/glx2 On Mar 1, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Coming a bit late to this party. I've successfully used Rev in a multi-developer environment using our own auto-update architecture and MagicCarpet.

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-01 Thread Neal Campbell
I have been using for all of my non-Visual Studio projects for over a year. Its light enough to not get in the way but provides good protection and version control. Highly recommended (which there was a plugin for Realbasic's IDE). Neal On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jerry Daniels [EMAIL

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-03-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Yes, I use magic carpet daily and it saves a lot of time. Me and Sivakatirswami works on the same projects using magic carpet and we never run into a problem. I think Magic Carpet is one of the killer apps available for Revolution Developers and anyone doing serious work in Rev can benefit from

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Mark, Who is using RunRev in a group development environment? (reply if you are) Me :) How many developers are on the team? Up to 5 Are the developers in the same office or are the team members spread over different regions or countries? Most of the time same office, somtimes

RE: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Steve Checkley
Hello all, Glad this question came up because the company I work for has been mulling over Rev for development work. No decision has been made yet, but I've had to give this some serious thought as to how we'd go about things if we did. We'd basically have three or four coders working on a

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Ben Rubinstein
I seem to be similar to Malte... Who is using RunRev in a group development environment? (reply if you are) Me, somewhat How many developers are on the team? Up to 6 Are the developers in the same office or are the team members spread over different regions or countries? Same office

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Len Morgan
Is there any chance that one of you (or someone else) might release the XML exporter? I'd like to make a DIFFer for stacks. I'd want to be able to export EVERYTHING (object properties, etc) in addition to scripts and then give the option to the user to display everything, just objects, just

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Let's face it guys, anytime you have more than one brain working on anything, the process is problematic. Even such tools as Apple's MPW, developed specifically for team operations, was not easily groked by most (IMHO). To expect that it would be any different with Rev is pretty much a

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 29/2/08 15:50, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Let's face it guys, anytime you have more than one brain working on anything, the process is problematic. Even such tools as Apple's MPW, developed specifically for team operations, was not easily groked by most (IMHO). To expect that it would be any

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 29/2/08 14:27, Len Morgan wrote: Is there any chance that one of you (or someone else) might release the XML exporter? I'd like to make a DIFFer for stacks. I'd want to be able to export EVERYTHING (object properties, etc) in addition to scripts and then give the option to the user to

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread mfstuart
in context: http://www.nabble.com/Team-Development-using-Run-Rev-tp15752758p15762903.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

RE: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Steve Checkley
** reposted because Hotmail didn't add line breaks to my message! **Hello all,Glad this question came up because the company I work for has beenmulling over Rev for development work. No decision has been made yet,but I've had to give this some serious thought as to how we'd go aboutthings if we

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Stephen Barncard
It should be said that (almost?) every object in rev can be created by script. As an exercise I've written scripts that go through all objects in a stack and make up a list of statements that can later be executed and recreate everything, including custom properties and scripts. It gets a

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread mfstuart
, substack etc (er... tbd) as individual files, so that there could be individual comments and change histories. Mark Stuart -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Team-Development-using-Run-Rev-tp15752758p15763352.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Len Morgan
I understand: NO GUARANTY, No help. I accept the challenge. Where can I locate the code so I can have my way with it? len morgan Ben Rubinstein wrote: On 29/2/08 14:27, Len Morgan wrote: Is there any chance that one of you (or someone else) might release the XML exporter? I'd like to make

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 29/2/08 17:49, Len Morgan wrote: I understand: NO GUARANTY, No help. I accept the challenge. Where can I locate the code so I can have my way with it? I'll email it off list. - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- It should be said that (almost?) every object in rev can be created by script. As an exercise I've written scripts that go through all objects in a stack and make up a list of statements that can later be executed and recreate everything, including custom properties and scripts.

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Stephen Barncard
pehaps a good reason to use the altID property or use unique names!! Almost. I can deconstruct and reconstruct objects and entire stacks, but ids are the Achilles heel here. For some reason object ids are set in stone at creation time. This works out ok in most cases, but if you have code that

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Luis
I'm wondering what they use at RunRev HQ. Cheers, Luis. mfstuart wrote: Hi Ben, Nice concept, if someone could build that in RunRev, a Team Development system, quite possible if you know the structure of all the objects. The SmartProperties plug-in that already exists, shows how the same

Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread Thierry
Le 1 mars 08 à 02:11, Mark Wieder a écrit : Stephen- It should be said that (almost?) every object in rev can be created by script. As an exercise I've written scripts that go through all objects in a stack and make up a list of statements that can later be executed and recreate

Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-28 Thread mfstuart
to understand the questions above, as one day this may be the tool of choice. Thanx in advance for your replies, Mark Stuart -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Team-Development-using-Run-Rev-tp15752758p15752758.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com