Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-02-16 Thread Pierre TALLOTTE
(a six-pack in this case). Can you help me ? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/more-than-one-unit-of-measue-fo-the-same-product-advice-requested-tp2952350p3308850.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-26 Thread Jacques Le Roux
That sounds fair enough, I will do... Thanks Jacques From: "Hans Bakker" I leave it up to you to further enhance it? Regards, Hans On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 10:02 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Hi Hans, Almost perfect: the product names are not used, and why not a specific icon for them? Also

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-26 Thread Hans Bakker
I leave it up to you to further enhance it? Regards, Hans On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 10:02 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Almost perfect: the product names are not used, and why not a specific icon > for them? > Also I wonder if we should not widen the left panel? I guess this width ha

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-26 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi Hans, Almost perfect: the product names are not used, and why not a specific icon for them? Also I wonder if we should not widen the left panel? I guess this width has been set when the most used screen resolution was 800x600 it's now 1024x768 Thanks for your time! Jacques From: "Hans Bak

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-25 Thread Hans Bakker
category/catalog tree updated in r1063625 thanks for your comments! Regards, Hans On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 11:06 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Jacopo, > > Well spotted! I have fixed your concern at r1059279. I wonder how I missed > that since I was inspired by > AgreementServices.getCommission

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-18 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Actually I had a look and changed my mind. It's the default (defined in framework/images/webapp/images/jquery/plugins/jsTree/themes/default/style.css) and 1) I think there are good reasons to have set it as is (maybe to make the area more visible?) 2) I don't want to mess 3) I have not enough ti

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-18 Thread Jacques Le Roux
OK I will do Jacques From: "Hans Bakker" sure, change it, that is no problem for us. On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 09:47 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Hans, A last request: I think we should better have a white background for the tree. Jacques From: "Hans Bakker" > Hi Jacques, were are looki

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-18 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hans, A last request: I think we should better have a white background for the tree. Jacques From: "Hans Bakker" Hi Jacques, were are looking at it but very busy. Regards, Hans On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:37 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Hans, Inline... From: "Jacques Le Roux" > Jacopo

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-17 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Thanks Hans, much appreciated Jacques From: "Hans Bakker" Hi Jacques, were are looking at it but very busy. Regards, Hans On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:37 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Hans, Inline... From: "Jacques Le Roux" > Jacopo, > > Well spotted! I have fixed your concern at r105927

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-17 Thread Hans Bakker
Hi Jacques, were are looking at it but very busy. Regards, Hans On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:37 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Hans, > > Inline... > > From: "Jacques Le Roux" > > Jacopo, > > > > Well spotted! I have fixed your concern at r1059279. I wonder how I missed > > that since I was i

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-17 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hans, Inline... From: "Jacques Le Roux" Jacopo, Well spotted! I have fixed your concern at r1059279. I wonder how I missed that since I was inspired by AgreementServices.getCommissionForProduct() :/ Hans: also could you please look at the catalogs/categories tree: there is only Ids in it,

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-15 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Jacopo, Well spotted! I have fixed your concern at r1059279. I wonder how I missed that since I was inspired by AgreementServices.getCommissionForProduct() :/ Hans: also could you please look at the catalogs/categories tree: there is only Ids in it, at least we should rather have the names (w

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-14 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
I think that we should not forget about this because the fix proposed by Jacques (thanks for this) should be considered a temporary one... for example it doesn't take into account validity dates of the relationship; as a side note, the same issue (validity dates ignored) was also in the original

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2011-01-10 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi Hans, This has introduced a bug I fixed at r1057153 The isVirtual Product attribute shows around 160 times in *form*.xml,*een*, *.gro*,*.ftl,*.java files. Of course I did not check them all. But I'd be surprised if your change has not introduced some other side effects... Could youy please

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-12-01 Thread Hans Bakker
This change is now implemented in r1040908 Related to the comment from Scott, Instead of using the existing association, we have created a new product association 'Alternative Packaging' to not interfere with the usage of Scott. An explanation can be found at: https://www.antwebsystems.com/conten

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-11-12 Thread Hans Bakker
i could also add a new association type "alternative Uom" and then still use isVirtual=Y/isVariant=Y...which would not block your usage On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 21:34 +1300, Scott Gray wrote: > Hi Hans, > > I'm still in favor of the approach that I suggested earlier and you haven't > really me

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-11-12 Thread Scott Gray
Hi Hans, I'm still in favor of the approach that I suggested earlier and you haven't really mentioned why it wouldn't work for you. If you like and if you are willing to wait a couple of days I could show you what I mean with some example entity xml data. You could then load it into a demo in

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-11-10 Thread Hans Bakker
A longer explanation how we want to implement this can be found at: http://www.antwebsystems.com/control/ViewBlogArticle?contentId=16750&blogContentId=AWS_BLOG Regards, Hans On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 16:52 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote: > We are are still getting the best solution, help appreciated. > >

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-11-10 Thread Hans Bakker
We are are still getting the best solution, help appreciated. We are thinking of the following: you have a product which you sell in pieces and boxes of ten. Then the product per piece is the lowest denominator and has a variant association to a virtual/variant product which is an alternative pac

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-05 Thread Hans Bakker
This sounds pretty good i even see some coding on this. Let me do some testing, i will come back with the results. Regards, Hans On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 12:13 -0600, David E Jones wrote: > For boxes of a product you'll usually have one product that represents the > individual items (which may or

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-03 Thread BJ Freeman
I see you point from a designer point of view, however there is a difference when you look at from a workeffort point of view. something ofbiz has not address fully, yet. Scott Gray sent the following on 10/3/2010 2:52 PM: A difficult to use UI dictates the need for a better UI, it doesn't mea

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-03 Thread Scott Gray
A difficult to use UI dictates the need for a better UI, it doesn't mean that you need to add new tables and alter the underlying business logic when the existing processes work just fine. There is no reason why the user couldn't setup the base UOM product and then have a special screen/form to

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-03 Thread BJ Freeman
Scott I followed you on the Marketing UOM but I can't find you comments on Inventory side except to say to use standard procedures.when I did my multiple UOM I could not find where you would have the all the Products UOM with out first adding Virtual/variants. this is all by hand and time consu

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-03 Thread Scott Gray
I'm sorry you're not making any sense. I've explained how multiple UOMs are supported OOTB for both just-in-time conversion and for longer lived UOM inventory that may require effort to produce. What is so wrong with the current functionality that we need to add new tables? How would a SECA o

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-03 Thread BJ Freeman
Ok so your talking about receiving different UOM like from different suppliers but you want one UOM to sell. That seems to be something to setup per supplier and use the normal conversions available now. Unless you expect to get different UOM from the same supplier, in which case I can see your

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-03 Thread David E Jones
For boxes of a product you'll usually have one product that represents the individual items (which may or may not be for sale directly to the customer), and one that is a product that represents the box and that is associated with the individual item. In OFBiz there are a few different product

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-03 Thread BJ Freeman
So having a entity that defines the different UOM that can be sold in inventory would be a good Idea, at a minimum. and as Hans Says have a price differential for each UOM. use a SECA to trigger on the ProductPricing service to run a service to populate for the Virtual/variants So all the user

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-03 Thread Scott Gray
You wouldn't use marketing packages in that situation, you'd just use regular products and regular production runs. Regards Scott On 4/10/2010, at 12:07 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: > how would the marketing package allow for inventory levels to be established > for different UOM. is marketing not a

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-03 Thread BJ Freeman
how would the marketing package allow for inventory levels to be established for different UOM. is marketing not a "Just in time" type of management? What about inventory that takes long lead times to process, that would delay shipments beyond a reasonable time. This could be from too many prod

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-03 Thread Scott Gray
Hi Hans, I'm not sure I understand what you proposed, could you explain it further? Virtual/variants and the marketing packages would serve different purposes in what I was suggesting, the marketing packages would serve to convert the base uom product to each of the marketing package's uom wher

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-03 Thread Hans Bakker
But involving the complete manufacturing process? please have a look at my earlier message about adding a field to the productassoc entity On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 18:13 +1300, Scott Gray wrote: > If you were to go the marketing package route, the box of 10 would be the > marketing package and t

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-02 Thread Hans Bakker
Thinking further on he virtual/variant ideawe could store the conversion in the ProductAssoc table with a field uomConversion between the base products and the virtual variants uom. What do you think of that? Regards, Hans Hi Scott, this is sure an interesting idea, but then how does t

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-02 Thread Scott Gray
If you were to go the marketing package route, the box of 10 would be the marketing package and the single piece would be the product that all inventory is stored against. The ProductAssoc (type "component" I think) between the box of 10 and the piece would have a quantity of 10. Whenever the

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-02 Thread Hans Bakker
Hi Scott, this is sure an interesting idea, but then how does the system know that they are for example 10 pieces in a box? I still what to have the same inventory for boxes and pieces. We should be able to store the conversion between the uom's for this product somewhere? Thanks for you input!

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-02 Thread Scott Gray
Hi Hans, Sorry if this is a silly question, but why not just use different products for different UOMs? You could use virtual/variants if you wanted the UOM to be selectable on a single product page and also marketing packages to automatically produce inventory for the desired UOM from the bas

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-02 Thread Hans Bakker
Thank you BJ, I had in mind to create and 'productUomAlternatives' table to the product with a conversion for example from pieces to boxes with an optional price adjustment percentage. The system will have however only one uom where everything gets converted to. Anybody else other solutions? Reg

Re: more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-02 Thread BJ Freeman
Yes also like a Feed store will have boxes, Sacks, and loose feed. I used the multiple pricing model for the Uom Measure in the product screen made it allow multiple UOM. added to the code that converts from what is received in inventory to what is sold so it walks through the Uom. for instance

more than one unit of measue fo the same product: advice requested.

2010-10-02 Thread Hans Bakker
A question to the community: sometimes the same products are sold with different units of measure. Example gold jewelry. Per piece, per box of 10, per box of 50 and per gram gold weight. Is here a preference how to implement that? Remember this has to show up in e-commerce, orders, shipments an