Tony
Thanks for sharing that... it *always* helps to see code. But
(there's always a but!) all the samples that I have seen tend to
be either very simple (selects only) or highly intricate... and very
hard to establish how they were built -up. The ideal approach
would match a draft I put on the
Hi Derek,
I understand your dilemma as I'm not a Java developer by any stretch.
One of the good things about Cocoon is that it allows you to achieve an
objective in many ways.
One of the bad things about Cocoon is that it allows you to achieve an
objective in many ways!
I think the task for most
Upayavira
I agree with what you say... more than that, I think we should
offer some guidelines as to what constitutes a reasonable cut-off:
I think you're being too modest ito of what can be achieved with
the Java-less route... surely we could extend the sample shown
to allow for filling in forms
Le 15 juin 05, à 13:58, Upayavira a écrit :
...The point is, there are different people using Cocoon for different
things. We need a lightweight way to integrate SQL and Cocoon forms.
And
on the documentation about it it should say "this is only suitable for
_very_ small sites, and will become
WHIRLYCOTT wrote:
Askild Aaberg Olsen wrote:
Why is tightly coupling my data access code to Hibernate so much
better then, isn't this yet another framework (like EJBs)?
What if I don't have the need to reuse this code?
What if I'm just a newbie trying to get some data into my webapp?
I sh
Le 14 juin 05, à 22:22, Askild Aaberg Olsen a écrit :
...I commited the sample in bugzilla as bug 35364. Have a look at it.
Thanks, I have applied your patch to both the 2.1 branch and the 2.2
trunk, with slight modifications (additional comments and minor
refactoring), see
http://issues.apa
Thanks for this Askild.
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Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Le 14 juin 05, à 16:45, Askild Aaberg Olsen a écrit :
>
>> ...I'll see if I can make a demo of this concept tonight. A "stock"
>> Cocoon-installation comes with a working database, so it should
Phil
Can I ask... from a very naive point-of-view... if you could then
outline your recommendations for the overall architecture (assuming
it *excludes* additional frameworks such as Hibernate and OJB)?
I was the one who raised the issue of avoiding development in Java;
having said that, I am sur
Askild Aaberg Olsen wrote:
Why is tightly coupling my data access code to Hibernate so much better
then, isn't this yet another framework (like EJBs)?
What if I don't have the need to reuse this code?
What if I'm just a newbie trying to get some data into my webapp?
I should clarify that I'm
Harse, patronizing and true words.
But application complexity was not the issue here...
Askild
WHIRLYCOTT wrote:
It seems highly unlikely to me that someone who cannot master the
important parts of a modern java application will be able to develop
applications that will scale in complexity as
It seems highly unlikely to me that someone who cannot master the
important parts of a modern java application will be able to develop
applications that will scale in complexity as the application
requirements increase.
If you think that java is overly complex, building a layer on top of it
b
WHIRLYCOTT wrote:
Askild Aaberg Olsen wrote:
I'll see if I can make a demo of this concept tonight. A "stock"
Cocoon-installation comes with a working database, so it should be
easy to install and not too much work.
I don't mean that using Cocoon as a Java-framework is wrong, I just
want t
Askild Aaberg Olsen wrote:
I'll see if I can make a demo of this concept tonight. A "stock"
Cocoon-installation comes with a working database, so it should be easy
to install and not too much work.
I don't mean that using Cocoon as a Java-framework is wrong, I just want
to address that solvi
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le 14 juin 05, à 16:45, Askild Aaberg Olsen a écrit :
...I'll see if I can make a demo of this concept tonight. A "stock"
Cocoon-installation comes with a working database, so it should be
easy to install and not too much work.
I don't mean that using Cocoon as a
Le 14 juin 05, à 16:45, Askild Aaberg Olsen a écrit :
...I'll see if I can make a demo of this concept tonight. A "stock"
Cocoon-installation comes with a working database, so it should be
easy to install and not too much work.
I don't mean that using Cocoon as a Java-framework is wrong, I ju
Derek Hohls wrote:
Askild
Thanks for the "tips"... for me (and maybe others) I am sure
a simple working demo [uh, the kind where you do not have
to rebuild Cocoon and add/remove blocks etc etc!] would be
very useful... even a series of code snippets. If it works,
I would be happy to "dress i
Hi!
seems like I started one thread pointed here for modular db actions and
forms.. I went OJB + Forms way to solve problems and I've been happy
since =)
I did small tutorial stuff on my homepage (and c&p that once in to
wiki, but it turned out to be mess.. didn't know how to fix it)..
http
Askild
Thanks for the "tips"... for me (and maybe others) I am sure
a simple working demo [uh, the kind where you do not have
to rebuild Cocoon and add/remove blocks etc etc!] would be
very useful... even a series of code snippets. If it works,
I would be happy to "dress it up" and add to the wi
Yes, Derek, I have followed the discussion with great interest, but not
participated myself. It seams like reason has won, and someone even
tries to enhance the current XSP-block! 0:-)
As a side note here, look at
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=110848544625231&w=2
where Stefa
Askild
My skills are similar to yours... but, I have not seen any
documents or examples that deal with the creation of a
full-fledged DB app that only uses XSLT, XML, SQL-transformer
and Flow/CForms. I'd be very happy if you can point me in the
right direction.
Thanks.
P.S. XSP is *not* de
Derek Hohls wrote:
Tom
Ok; that is one viewpoint. But I think these quotes from the Wiki:
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/GettingStartedWithCocoonAndHibernate
are also pertinent:
"Be aware that you will not be ready to write Hibernate-based applications
in 5 minutes. You are about to venture
Tom
Ok; that is one viewpoint. But I think these quotes from the Wiki:
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/GettingStartedWithCocoonAndHibernate
are also pertinent:
"Be aware that you will not be ready to write Hibernate-based applications
in 5 minutes. You are about to venture into a complex topic.
Title: AW: CForms and Modular Database Actions
From my personal experience I would not consider moving to Hibernate as very difficult.
Following the wiki tutorial at http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/CocoonAndHibernateTutorial it took me a day to create a search form with result list... and the
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