Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-22 Thread Marc Driftmeyer
Just an observation, but isn't 2.2 a redesign from 2.1.x branch that significantly restructured Cocoon (Maven, CForms, XSP deprecated, etc)? 2.1.x is legacy as 1.8.x is now legacy. 2.2 would be current and 2.3/3.0 development/experimental. Debian has 4 Branches. At least if all possible their

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-21 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Marc Driftmeyer napisał(a): If Banking Institutions are the reason then we should fork the tree to have two branches ala Firefox. One that targets legacy systems and the other for moving the system forward. There are already two branches! One 2.1.x and another trunk. When we C2.2 is out,

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-21 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Grzegorz Kossakowski escribió: Marc Driftmeyer napisaÅ‚(a): If Banking Institutions are the reason then we should fork the tree to have two branches ala Firefox. One that targets legacy systems and the other for moving the system forward. There are already two branches! One 2.1.x and another

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-21 Thread Kamal Bhatt
Bruce Atherton wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Many thanks to everybody, who has participated so far, for your feedback. On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we voted about it and the voting proposal was rejected. The main reason is that large organizations (e.g. banks) are years behind in their usage of

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-20 Thread Marc Driftmeyer
If Banking Institutions are the reason then we should fork the tree to have two branches ala Firefox. One that targets legacy systems and the other for moving the system forward. - Marc --- Bruce Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Many thanks to everybody, who has

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-18 Thread Bruce Atherton
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Many thanks to everybody, who has participated so far, for your feedback. On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we voted about it and the voting proposal was rejected. The main reason is that large organizations (e.g. banks) are years behind in their usage of new JDK releases and that

Cocoon is a bleeding-edge?! ( WAS Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2)

2006-08-17 Thread Derek Hohls
Quote: I use cocoon because I like bleeding-edge technologies Surely Cocoon is an incredibly stable, mainstream application by now - in the same ball-park as Struts et al. After all, its been around about 7 years! Ruby on rails... now *that* might be bleeding-edge! Johannes Textor [EMAIL

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-17 Thread Ralph Goers
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Many thanks to everybody, who has participated so far, for your feedback. On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we voted about it and the voting proposal was rejected. The main reason is that large organizations (e.g. banks) are years behind in their usage of new JDK releases and that we

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-16 Thread Askild Aaberg Olsen
Reinhard Poetz wrote: On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we have started to dicuss whether we can make Java 5 becoming the minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2. +1 Askild - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-16 Thread Aleksander Bandelj
+1, Java 1.5 has been here for a while and several projects which we depend on are going to 1.5 as well Reinhard Poetz wrote: On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we have started to dicuss whether we can make Java 5 becoming the minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2. Note that this discussion is completly

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-16 Thread Ralph Skulbörstad
+1 Ralph -- Meddelandet har kontrollerats mot virus samt skadligt innehåll av MailScanner och förmodas vara säkert. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-16 Thread Erron Austin
+1 Erron On 8/16/06, Ralph Skulbörstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1Ralph--Meddelandet har kontrollerats mot virus samt skadligtinnehåll av MailScanner och förmodas vara säkert. -To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]For

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-16 Thread Johannes Textor
+1 This comes from my user perspective, since I don't normally depend on large entities to host my applications, but can rather set up my own servers and install the software I need. In fact, I think that entities with a more conservative migration strategy would not typically use cocoon to

RE: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-14 Thread Stewart, Gary
-Original Message- From: Reinhard Poetz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we have started to dicuss whether we can make Java 5 becoming the minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2. I've been using Java 5 for deployment for some time so it isn't a problem for me. There

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-14 Thread Bruce Atherton
Count this as a big +1 from me. We only run cocoon in a Java 5 VM anyway. The Concurrency package alone is a big reason to adopt Java 5. The speed of many algorithms can be vastly improved, as well as being made more thread-safe. Then there is the enhanced type safety you get with generics.

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-11 Thread Patrick Refondini
Reinhard Poetz wrote: On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we have started to dicuss whether we can make Java 5 becoming the minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2. Note that this discussion is completly unrelated to Cocoon 2.1 which needs JDK 1.3. The arguments pro Java 5 which was officially releases almost

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-11 Thread Marc Driftmeyer
Count me in for Java 5. I've got some concerns with Maven on Debian not having Maven 2 in its Unstable branch but I'll get over that one. On OS X Java 5 has been standard for quite sometime. Working with Java 5 for WebObjects or Cocoon2.2 solely would be nice. Java 6 previews are also installed

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-10 Thread Derek Hohls
Fine by me. Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006/08/10 11:32 AM On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we have started to dicuss whether we can make Java 5 becoming the minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2. Note that this discussion is completly unrelated to Cocoon 2.1 which needs JDK 1.3.The arguments pro Java 5

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-10 Thread Andre Juffer
I think, we should, given also that Java 6 is in the pipeline. Reinhard Poetz wrote: On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we have started to dicuss whether we can make Java 5 becoming the minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2. Note that this discussion is completly unrelated to Cocoon 2.1 which needs JDK 1.3.

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-10 Thread werner
Reinhard Poetz wrote: On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we have started to dicuss whether we can make Java 5 becoming the minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2. Note that this discussion is completly unrelated to Cocoon 2.1 which needs JDK 1.3. The arguments pro Java 5 which was officially releases almost

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-10 Thread Alessandro Vincelli
Reinhard Poetz ha scritto: On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we have started to dicuss whether we can make Java 5 becoming the minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2. Note that this discussion is completly unrelated to Cocoon 2.1 which needs JDK 1.3. The arguments pro Java 5 which was officially releases

Re: [poll] Java 5 as minimum requirement for Cocoon 2.2

2006-08-10 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
werner napisał(a): +1 * Cocoon was always next generation technology. I think it's more fun for the developers to work with Java 5. Fun is an important factor in open source projects. * It will take some time until a new stable Cocoon 2.2 will be out and it will take much more time until