>>
>> Wrong! Calibre does a great job of converting .odt to ePub without an
> intermediate conversion to HTML.
That may be the case, but formatting from HTML will render better results
when doing the conversion. This is especially true when uploading books to
Barnes & Nobel. Their meatgrinder doe
On Friday, August 16, 2013, jack wallen wrote:
>
> > On 14/08/2013, Virgil Arrington >
> wrote:
> >>
> >> display graphics, it's not very elegant. I've found that books with
> >> anything
> >>
> >> more than a stream of text create issues for the Kindle.
>
> Ultimately, in the end, you have to exp
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> From: Virgil Arrington
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 13:27
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
>On 08/15/2013 08:20 AM, Fernand Vanrie wrote:
>> trie the Elaix extension
>>> On 13/08/2
> On 14/08/2013, Virgil Arrington wrote:
>>
>> display graphics, it's not very elegant. I've found that books with
>> anything
>>
>> more than a stream of text create issues for the Kindle.
Ultimately, in the end, you have to export (save as) to HTML anyway (to
import into Calibre). Once you've
On 14/08/2013, Virgil Arrington wrote:
>
> display graphics, it's not very elegant. I've found that books with anything
>
> more than a stream of text create issues for the Kindle.
>
Thankfully there are a multitude of other devices available with the
better advantage of epub support.
> I have t
On 08/15/2013 08:20 AM, Fernand Vanrie wrote:
trie the Elaix extension
On 13/08/2013, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried
converting
the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then
tried
doing the same with just the 1
trie the Elaix extension
On 13/08/2013, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting
the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried
doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB
output f
Nice reply Brian and spot on. And correct it is a quirk of IE to see a
file with a compressed content, and assume it's a zip. And again I
continue my head scratching until I'm bald, as to why people still want
to use IE with it's archaic code, and ongoing quirks and security flaws.
This when t
At 21:02 14/08/2013 -0400, Virgil Arrington wrote:
The strange thing was I didn't extract the oxt from the zip. I
simply renamed the zip to an oxt. There was no oxt file inside the zip.
You didn't need to. An .oxt file, like other ODF formats, is itself
a zip archive. What has happened is th
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From: Virgil Arrington
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 12:34
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
I installed it through LO's extension manager.
I also found that I had to change the name of the extension file from a
"
;To: e-letter
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 12:45
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
>I was just playing around. I'm not so motivated as to do all of what you're
>suggesting.
>
>I've had a
Virgil
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To: Virgil Arrington
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
On 13/08/2013, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I
cannot now recall the order of all my changes.
Virgil
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From: jorge
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:43 PM
To: Virgil Arrington
Cc: Kracked_P_P---webmaster ; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi all !
Vir
a try, if someone gives me the link to a specific ODT document.
>Regards,
>Joaquín
>
>
>
>
>
>De: Tom Davies
>Para: e-letter ; Virgil Arrington
>CC: "users@global.libreoffice.org"
>Enviado: Miércoles 14 de agosto de 201
aquín
De: Tom Davies
Para: e-letter ; Virgil Arrington
CC: "users@global.libreoffice.org"
Enviado: Miércoles 14 de agosto de 2013 12:30
Asunto: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi :)
That sounds like a nightmare! You made it look l
Arrington
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 10:44
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
>On 13/08/2013, Virgil Arrington wrote:
>> I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting
&g
On 13/08/2013, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting
>
> the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried
> doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB
> output file was generated.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:41 PM
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
> There is a version for AOO, several actually written by a guy wit
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From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:41 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
There is a version for AOO, several actually written by a guy with an
Italian country code.
One for version if for
Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:58 PM
To: Tom Davies
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
I just redid the Writer2epub test with my theology paper after applying
default LO styles. It worked a *l
s you have done it before in
which case it's probably quite easy
Regards from
Tom :)
>
> From: Virgil Arrington
>To: Tom Davies
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 20:15
>Subject: Re: [libre
August 13, 2013 2:58 PM
To: Tom Davies
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
I just redid the Writer2epub test with my theology paper after applying
default LO styles. It worked a *lot* better. I really liked the way it
handled the default
ngton
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi :)
That sounds a lot like LaTeX being best if you stick with their defaults so
it kinda makes sense to me. I think the Docs Team (i think mostly Dan &
Jean wasn't it?) experimented with a f
ough it's years later already.
Regards from
Tom :)
>
> From: Virgil Arrington
>To: Tom Davies ; e-letter
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 19:22
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with
ns after a half-hour experiment.
Virgil
-Original Message-
From: Tom Davies
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:46 AM
To: Virgil Arrington ; e-letter
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi :)
Sorry, got distracted.
3 August 2013, 14:11
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
>Tom,
>
>Do you have a link to one of the guides? I may have a go at trying different
>ways of converting one to EPUB just to see how it works. Might be kind of
>fun.
>
>Virgil
>
: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi :)
Has anyone successfully tried this to get ePub versions of something fairly
hefty such as our Published Guides? I think it would be great if we could
get all those guides done as ePub wouldn't it? A
m
Tom :)
>
> From: e-letter
>To: Virgil Arrington
>Cc: rost52 ; users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:56
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
>On 12/07/2013, Virgil Arrington wrote:
>> That works just fine. For
ng to paper, LaTeX
wins and maybe epub for electronic archives.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rost52
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:00 PM
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
> "As a proud papa
Wolfgang,
You also wrote:
The style concept of both Word and LO/OO however is so severely screwed
up that I've never ever seen a document that would have allowed to
re-use content in any other way (within the same application!) than by
copying and pasting it as unformatted text and then re-appl
Wolfgang,
Forgive my ignorance, but I'm trying to understand what you're saying. You
wrote:
In essence, this boils down to the fact that all sane document
processing applications (whether Wordperfect, Framemaker or dozens
of others, LaTeX or anything that outputs structured XML) use nestable
On 12/07/2013 at 16:09, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> Wordperfect (or e.g. Framemaker) styles allow to do "structure markup".
>
> Word, OO and LO "styles" don't.
>
> In essence, this boils down to the fact that all sane document
> processing applications (whether Wordperfect, Framemaker or dozens
>
Hi Wolfgang,
Wolfgang Keller schrieb:
I don't believe I've heard of "structure markup style concept" and
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I used WordPerfect for years
and could never quite get the hang of WP's styles, all the while I
took to Word's and OO's (now LO's) styles quite easily
> I don't believe I've heard of "structure markup style concept" and
> I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I used WordPerfect for years
> and could never quite get the hang of WP's styles, all the while I
> took to Word's and OO's (now LO's) styles quite easily.
To put it simply:
Wordperfect
gt; From: Fernand Vanrie
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:22 AM
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
> Virgil ,
>
> the secret of styles for ebook publishing is the "OutLineLevel" you can
> uses any style but
@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Virgil ,
the secret of styles for ebook publishing is the "OutLineLevel" you can
uses any style but change your paragraph styles to the correct OutlineLevel
TITEL = OutlineLevel 1
Subtitel = Outl
ct: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
>
>On 07/11/2013 10:00 PM, rost52 wrote:
>> "As a proud papa..." I would open the document in Writer, select all
>> and set styles to Default. Then create the styles I wanted and
>> reformat the whol
; From: Virgil Arrington
>To: rost52 ; users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013, 12:30
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
>That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth a
>process or polished a result as w
3 10:00 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
"As a proud papa..." I would open the document in Writer, select all and set
styles to Default. Then
create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document.
On 12.07.2013 01:17, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
3 12:17 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
For example, several years ago, my 14 year old son challenged himself
to type a 50,000 word novel in November, which is National Novel
Writers Month. He met his goal, and quickly dropped the pro
On 07/11/2013 10:00 PM, rost52 wrote:
"As a proud papa..." I would open the document in Writer, select all
and set styles to Default. Then create the styles I wanted and
reformat the whole document.
On 12.07.2013 01:17, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
I'll reiterate this again -- if you're self p
"As a proud papa..." I would open the document in Writer, select all and set styles to Default. Then
create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document.
On 12.07.2013 01:17, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
For example, several years ago, my 14 year old son challenged himself
to type a 50,000 wor
t: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:17 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
For example, several years ago, my 14 year old son challenged himself
to type a 50,000 word novel in November, which is National Novel
Writers Month. He met his goal, and quickly dropped the p
> For example, several years ago, my 14 year old son challenged himself
> to type a 50,000 word novel in November, which is National Novel
> Writers Month. He met his goal, and quickly dropped the project.
>
> As a proud papa, I wanted to put his document to paper. He wrote the
> original in Word
s out to lunch.
Regards from
Tom :)
>
> From: Tom Davies
>To: Kracked_P_P---webmaster ;
>"users@global.libreoffice.org"
>Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2013, 13:40
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
webmaster
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:08 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
On 07/10/2013 08:37 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Urmas wrote:
The tool that you use does not matter. Everything thay you write
will be decomposed and virtually r
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> From: Virgil Arrington
>To: Kracked_P_P---webmaster ;
>users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2013, 11:56
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
>Okay, this is really spooky, or I'm just growing paranoid.
>
>Two d
iginal Message-
From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:08 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
On 07/10/2013 08:37 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Urmas wrote:
The tool that you use does not matter. Everythi
On 07/10/2013 08:37 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Urmas wrote:
The tool that you use does not matter. Everything thay you write will
be decomposed and virtually remade in the DTP program, most likely
InDesign.
You may be right if the project goes to a professional publisher for
final output.
Urmas wrote:
The tool that you use does not matter. Everything thay you write will be
decomposed and virtually remade in the DTP program, most likely InDesign.
You may be right if the project goes to a professional publisher for final
output. But, Pablo's original question stated he would be
On 07/09/2013 03:48 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Kracked_P_P wrote:
I use LO to export my work to a PDF document that would work well on
my tablets. All I needed to do is format the page size to the proper
one that works best for tablet reading. I choose something along the
page size used fo
On 07/09/2013 12:05 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> But, LO's navigator tool offers much of the same functionality without having
> to split your document up into
> many different files. With the navigator, you can jump from point to
> point within a single document based on headings, bookmarks, et
Kracked_P_P wrote:
I use LO to export my work to a PDF document that would work well on my
tablets. All I needed to do is format the page size to the proper one that
works best for tablet reading. I choose something along the page size used
for paper-back books. So I format the page to abou
On 7/9/13 2:12 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>
> Writer, Word and WordPerfect and others do seem to be designed for business
> letters and fairly short works. LaTeX (and the various front-ends (such as
> LyX) that attempt to make it easier to use) do seem to have advantages for
> larger works but are m
it fixes itself. "Simples" ;)
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Virgil Arrington
To: Mirosław Zalewski ; users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013, 1:29
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Miroslaw,
You're right; I did merge *writing* and *publishing
On 07/09/2013 07:27 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Ferand wrote,
Virgil,
please stop this crap, LO and OO are the right tools to produce any
document any form any size, only the lack of knowledge is a barrier .
All professional tools to produce a book are XML based like LO and
OO, so start wr
Here is a resend of a reply that seemed not to get to the system, so I
have been told.
On 07/08/2013 06:32 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
On 07/08/2013 05:51 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
On 08/07/2013 at 22:58, "Virgil Arrington" wrote:
but to
me trying to write a book with LO Writer
Jack,
Just curious. Do you use LO's master document system for your books?
Virgil
-Original Message-
From: Jack Wallen
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 7:12 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Sorry, my original reply wen
Getting back to Pablo's original question, he asked about using master
documents with sub-documents for each chapter. This is, in fact, the model
used by many systems, from LaTeX to yWriter, as well as LO.
But, I'm wondering how necessary it really is. The purpose of the master
document/subdoc
Sorry, my original reply went off list.
On 07/09/2013 12:10 AM, Pablo Dotro wrote:
I thank you for your time and effort. I would prefer to stick to using
LO... I seriously considered turning to LaTeX, but I truly feel a
little overwhelmed with the amount of learning I would need to do in
o
; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
Hi :)
When i first started using Writer i found i struggled against the software
quite a bit. Often people try something new unaware of the baggage they bring
with them (such as bad habits learned through
Ferand wrote,
Virgil,
please stop this crap, LO and OO are the right tools to produce any
document any form any size, only the lack of knowledge is a barrier .
All professional tools to produce a book are XML based like LO and OO, so
start writing, use a simple style model , understood the
es LaTeX easier then go for it.
Regards from
Tom :)
>
> From: Virgil Arrington
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Monday, 8 July 2013, 21:58
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
>
>
>trying to
uot;Simples" ;)
Regards from
Tom :)
>
> From: Virgil Arrington
>To: Mirosław Zalewski ; users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013, 1:29
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
>Miroslaw,
>
>You're right; I did merge *w
.
Regards from
Tom :)
>
> From: Mirosław Zalewski
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>Sent: Monday, 8 July 2013, 22:51
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
>
>
>On 08/07/2013 at 22:58, "Virgil Arrington"
Hi!
On 08/07/13 21:29, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Anytime I use a program like yWriter, I end up spending a lot of time
later applying formatting that I could have applied on the fly with a
decent word processor. That may not be a concern for a person whose
work will be published, and therefore
On 08/07/13 10:44, Nagy Ákos wrote:
Hi,
I know this book:
http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/whitepapers/Creating_large_documents_with_OOo.odt
It's an old book, and is writed for OpenOffice, but the most important
part is the same, and you can reuse in LibreOffice.
I know an another book
On 08/07/13 14:30, Marc Grober wrote:
I have seen quote a bit of argument against using a master document for
a book as I was exploring this subject just recently as well. The help
docs of course are a good place to start.
https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Master_Documents_and_Subdocuments
Th
Hi!
On 08/07/13 18:51, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
On 08/07/2013 at 22:58, "Virgil Arrington" wrote:
but to
me trying to write a book with LO Writer is like trying to force a square
peg into a round hole. Yes, it can be done, but the labor involved may not
be worth it.
I think you merge two tot
Hello Virgil!
On 08/07/13 17:58, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I'll probably be (justifiably) ostracized for this on a LO user list,
but to me trying to write a book with LO Writer is like trying to
force a square peg into a round hole. Yes, it can be done, but the
labor involved may not be worth it
hing an
e-book.
Virgil
-Original Message-
From: Mirosław Zalewski
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 5:51 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
On 08/07/2013 at 22:58, "Virgil Arrington" wrote:
but to
me trying to write a bo
On 08/07/2013 at 22:58, "Virgil Arrington" wrote:
> but to
> me trying to write a book with LO Writer is like trying to force a square
> peg into a round hole. Yes, it can be done, but the labor involved may not
> be worth it.
I think you merge two totally different ideas: writing a book and
I'll probably be (justifiably) ostracized for this on a LO user list, but to
me trying to write a book with LO Writer is like trying to force a square
peg into a round hole. Yes, it can be done, but the labor involved may not
be worth it. In my mind, Writer is a business application, useful for
I have seen quote a bit of argument against using a master document for
a book as I was exploring this subject just recently as well. The help
docs of course are a good place to start.
https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Master_Documents_and_Subdocuments
There are a number of different tools for
Hi,
I know this book:
http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/whitepapers/Creating_large_documents_with_OOo.odt
It's an old book, and is writed for OpenOffice, but the most important
part is the same, and you can reuse in LibreOffice.
I know an another book for you, but it's exists only in Hun
Greetings!
I am beginning a large writing project, that will most probably take the
form of a self published, free ebook. And while I have created very
long, complex documents before, I have never formatted them as a book.
Having been using word processing software for a living for the last 15
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