Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Scott Tavares
aven developers. What does any of this have to do with "... [VOTE] The Maven Logo..."? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: maven:site and Forrest (was Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo)

2003-11-30 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Jason van Zyl wrote: Are you actually confirming you believe it's an overkill even ofr jakarta commons ? Absolutely it's overkill. Additionally if I ever made a live site tool for Maven I would personally never use anything Cocoon-based. That's my preference and as such carries some weight around

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 16:00, Vincent Massol wrote: > I'd like to see the report registration mechanism untied from the site > plugin so that any plugin wishing to use it can. Once this is done, all > plugins web site generation plugins will be equal. It's been suggested before, I think when Berin

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Vincent Massol
> -Original Message- > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 November 2003 21:51 > To: Maven Users List > Subject: RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo > > On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 14:59, Vincent Massol wrote: > > > -Original Message- >

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 14:54, Paul Libbrecht wrote: > Jason van Zyl wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 11:20, Adam R. B. Jack wrote: > >>What am I missing? This is sounding like Forrest. Why duplicate, why not > >>collaborate? > > Forrest is massive overkill for most sites, additionally it barely > >

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 14:59, Vincent Massol wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 30 November 2003 20:41 > > To: Maven Users List > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo > > > > On Sun,

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Vincent Massol
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Libbrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 November 2003 21:14 > To: Maven Users List > Subject: Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo > > Vincent Massol wrote: > > In any case, Maven has an open architecture and Forrest has a Ma

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Vincent Massol wrote: In any case, Maven has an open architecture and Forrest has a Maven plugin. That's cool. Users can choose to use whichever they prefer. Mmmh, is that not a Forrest plugin for maven ? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=turbine-maven-dev&m=105438035409490&w=2 I am a bit unclear on

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Vincent Massol
> -Original Message- > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 November 2003 20:41 > To: Maven Users List > Subject: Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo > > On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 11:20, Adam R. B. Jack wrote: > > What am I missing? This is sounding

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Jason van Zyl wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 11:20, Adam R. B. Jack wrote: What am I missing? This is sounding like Forrest. Why duplicate, why not collaborate? Forrest is massive overkill for most sites, additionally it barely worked when we started Maven and as far as I know is still rather unwield

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Jason van Zyl
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo > > > > > > > > Paul Libbrecht wrote: > > > An alternative would be to actually consider a complete notion of skin. > > > And this is probably

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
What am I missing? This is sounding like Forrest. Why duplicate, why not collaborate? regards Adam - Original Message - From: "Mark R. Diggory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:58 AM Su

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-30 Thread Mark R. Diggory
Paul Libbrecht wrote: An alternative would be to actually consider a complete notion of skin. And this is probably going to happen very soon I think... xdoc implementors, hasn't it already been thought about ? With the cool download mechanism of maven, it really looks to be something we could

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-27 Thread dion
Paul Libbrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 28/11/2003 09:22:27 AM: > Alain Javier Guarnieri del Gesu wrote: > > degenerates quickly into the sort of rambings I dispise. > > > So, is there really someone out here that sort of thinks in terms of the > product instead of thinking in this gen

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-27 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Alain Javier Guarnieri del Gesu wrote: degenerates quickly into the sort of rambings I dispise. So, is there really someone out here that sort of thinks in terms of the product instead of thinking in this general undebatable effect of a logo... To me, we need to document sufficiently the pr

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-27 Thread Alain Javier Guarnieri del Gesu
* Mark R. Diggory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-26 14:22]: > Peter Bright wrote: > >The Chinese government is responsible, in one way or another, for > >probably around 35 million deaths between 1949 and the present day; > >whilst many millions of these deaths were attributable not to malice > >as s

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-27 Thread Alain Javier Guarnieri del Gesu
ld War. This logo will never fly in Taiwan, South Korea, or Hong Kong. You think a Taipei municipal web site can display the Maven logo? Basically, you've created an identity that is going to clash, and clash hard, with the identities of corporations (a Communist anathma), a

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-27 Thread Alain Javier Guarnieri del Gesu
* John D Taylor (ROE) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-26 11:57]: > > > Jim Crossley wrote: > > A runoff between the top 2 vote getters listed at > > http://projects.walding.com/powered/ > > > > propaganda or feather? > > +1 propaganda > > Much more striking, and because most non-US citizens

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-27 Thread Alain Javier Guarnieri del Gesu
* n. alex rupp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-23 16:28]: > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Crossley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: The Ma

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread matt
+1 propaganda. We're not talking politics, we're talking graphical imagery. If you're offended by something as simple as some old-fashioned soviet imagery, well you're bound to be offended by a hell of a lot of other things - possibly including my use of the word "hell" ;-) Matt Peter Bright

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Steve Lewis
sage- > From: Scott Tavares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:07 PM > To: Maven Users List > Subject: Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo > > Steve Lewis wrote: > > >That's hilarious. I've been listening to the > >conversation amusi

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Vikas Phonsa
vares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:07 PM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo Steve Lewis wrote: >That's hilarious. I've been listening to the >conversation amusingly. >Steve > > >--- "Craig S. Cottingham" <

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Scott Tavares
Steve Lewis wrote: That's hilarious. I've been listening to the conversation amusingly. Steve --- "Craig S. Cottingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Somebody email Mike Godwin, and tell him we have a counterexample to his Law ( http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html ).

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Scott Tavares
Peter Bright wrote: if the Nazi's had stayed in power till now (~70 years) with the same genocidal mentality witnessed during Hitler Germany, ~ 150 million people would be dead at the hands of Nazi's. No, they wouldn't, for the simple reason that he would have run out of Jews and Slavs to kil

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread khote
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/2.10/godwin.if.html - Original Message - From: "Ben Walding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo > I sto

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Ben Walding
, STOP, STOP. It isn't a history forum. +1000 for the Ben logo. - Original Message - From: "Peter Bright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Maven Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: RE: [VOTE] The Maven

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Mark R. Diggory
Brilliant! ;-) "However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful." -- This thread should have ended a long time ago! ;-) [+1] for feather! --- "Craig S. Cottingham" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Emmanuel Venisse
STOP, STOP, STOP. It isn't a history forum. +1000 for the Ben logo. - Original Message - From: "Peter Bright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Maven Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: RE: [VOTE] T

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Steve Lewis
That's hilarious. I've been listening to the conversation amusingly. Steve --- "Craig S. Cottingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Somebody email Mike Godwin, and tell him we have a > counterexample to his > Law ( > http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html > ). > > Can we please

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Craig S. Cottingham
Somebody email Mike Godwin, and tell him we have a counterexample to his Law ( http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html ). Can we please drop this thread now, and get back to talking about Maven? -- Craig S. Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Peter Bright
> if the Nazi's had stayed in power till now (~70 years) with the same > genocidal mentality witnessed during Hitler Germany, ~ 150 million > people would be dead at the hands of Nazi's. No, they wouldn't, for the simple reason that he would have run out of Jews and Slavs to kill. He didn't have t

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Mikael Lundgren
+1 feather /Mikael Lundgren - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Mark R. Diggory
Peter Bright wrote: The Chinese government is responsible, in one way or another, for probably around 35 million deaths between 1949 and the present day; whilst many millions of these deaths were attributable not to malice as such but to economic mismanagement resulting in famine. The Soviet regime

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Charles-Alexandre Sabourdin
Le Mercredi 26 Novembre 2003 10:25, Norbert Pabiś a écrit : > Jim Crossley wrote: > > A runoff between the top 2 vote getters listed at > > http://projects.walding.com/powered/ > > > > propaganda or feather? +1 propaganda -- Charles-Alexandre SABOURDIN -

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Peter Bright wrote: > > John D Taylor (ROE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Much more striking, and because most non-US citizens probably find the > whole > > debate baffling! (Though maybe Europeans would have had a similar > reaction > > to the original poster if th

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Peter Bright
> John D Taylor (ROE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jim Crossley wrote: > > A runoff between the top 2 vote getters listed at > > http://projects.walding.com/powered/ > > > > propaganda or feather? > > +1 propaganda > > Much more striking, and because most non-US citizens probably find

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread scolebourne
1 feather (although not sure if I have a vote) > from:"John D Taylor (ROE)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jim Crossley wrote: > > A runoff between the top 2 vote getters listed at > > http://projects.walding.com/powered/ > > > > propaganda or feather? > > 1 propaganda > > Much more striking

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread John D Taylor (ROE)
Jim Crossley wrote: > A runoff between the top 2 vote getters listed at > http://projects.walding.com/powered/ > > propaganda or feather? +1 propaganda Much more striking, and because most non-US citizens probably find the whole debate baffling! (Though maybe Europeans would have had a s

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Paul Libbrecht
On Mercredi, nove 26, 2003, at 10:25 Europe/Paris, Norbert Pabiś wrote: Jim Crossley wrote: A runoff between the top 2 vote getters listed at http://projects.walding.com/powered/ propaganda or feather? +1 propaganda +1 feather. (I would have loved the "brewed") --

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-26 Thread Norbert Pabiś
Jim Crossley wrote: A runoff between the top 2 vote getters listed at http://projects.walding.com/powered/ propaganda or feather? +1 propaganda -- Norbert Pabiś - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-25 Thread matt
Committers, Please keep the star as the default - it's distinctive, punchy, and bright, and shows a level of humour that is all-too-often missing from OSS projects. I've certainly become a maven propagandist over the past six months, and would hate to see the bland blanket of corporatisation

RE: The Maven Logo

2003-11-25 Thread Brett Porter
> I think he is more referring to a faq about why we chose the supposed > symbol of a communist country as opposed to something more > neutral like > our undisputed favourite... red-green! > +1 red-green. Very Christmassy :) But other than that, probably the feather, for at least the reason t

Re: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-25 Thread Tom Copeland
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 10:38, Jim Crossley wrote: > A runoff between the top 2 vote getters listed at > http://projects.walding.com/powered/ > > propaganda or feather? > > +1 feather +1 feather Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [

RE: [VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-25 Thread Erdfelt, Joakim
> A runoff between the top 2 vote getters listed at > http://projects.walding.com/powered/ > > propaganda or feather? +1 feather It could only offend poultry or head-dress makers. /* Joakim */

[VOTE] The Maven Logo

2003-11-25 Thread Jim Crossley
A runoff between the top 2 vote getters listed at http://projects.walding.com/powered/ propaganda or feather? +1 feather - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-25 Thread Ben Walding
I think he is more referring to a faq about why we chose the supposed symbol of a communist country as opposed to something more neutral like our undisputed favourite... red-green! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean http://maven.apache.org/reference/plugins/xdoc/faq.html#powered-by Should b

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-25 Thread dion
Do you mean http://maven.apache.org/reference/plugins/xdoc/faq.html#powered-by Should be moved to the top level FAQ? Why?? -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/dion/ Martin Skopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 25/11/2003 07:37:09 PM: > On Mon, 2003-

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-25 Thread Mark R. Diggory
n guys. Maybe I'm the bum over there but I fail to see any issue. If we want to make it more catchy or beautiful or something I can understand that. -Original Message- From: Jim Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 7:19 AM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: T

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-25 Thread Martin Skopp
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 21:48, Ben Walding wrote: > http://projects.walding.com/powered/ > > Martin Skopp wrote: > >>For me, it's not a question of offensiveness, but laziness: I'm tired > >>of answering questions about it. > > > >+1, Full ACK. Start a vote. I take back that statement (the nippl

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-24 Thread Ben Walding
http://projects.walding.com/powered/ Martin Skopp wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 15:18, Jim Crossley wrote: For me, it's not a question of offensiveness, but laziness: I'm tired of answering questions about it. +1, Full ACK. Start a vote. BTW dion/ben: What's the URL of Bens web site wi

RE: The Maven Logo

2003-11-24 Thread Vikas Phonsa
want to make it more catchy or beautiful or something I can understand that. -Original Message- From: Jim Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 7:19 AM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: The Maven Logo +1 to change it I say we move from politics to religio

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-24 Thread khote
be careful you don't choose a logo with round things in it, somebody will find a way to see nipples. -- sigh. - Original Message - From: "Martin Skopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-24 Thread Martin Skopp
On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 15:18, Jim Crossley wrote: > For me, it's not a question of offensiveness, but laziness: I'm tired > of answering questions about it. +1, Full ACK. Start a vote. BTW dion/ben: What's the URL of Bens web site with logos and votes? cu -- Martin Skopp Riege Software Intern

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-23 Thread dion
Start a thread with a [vote] subject, and get some votes, or better still, do as Ben did, and set up a web site with logos and votes. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/dion/ Jim Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 24/11/2003 02:18:35 AM: > +1 t

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-23 Thread Mark R. Diggory
to use over at Jakarta Commons as the most obvious for an ASF project to be using. Hen On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, n. alex rupp wrote: - Original Message - From: "Jim Crossley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, Novemb

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-23 Thread Henri Yandell
ASF project to be using. Hen On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, n. alex rupp wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Crossley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:18 AM > Subject:

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-23 Thread n. alex rupp
- Original Message - From: "Jim Crossley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: Re: The Maven Logo > +1 to change it > > I say we move from politics to religion. Since

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-23 Thread Jim Crossley
+1 to change it I say we move from politics to religion. Since 'maven' is a yiddish word, let's put a star of david on the logo. ;-) For me, it's not a question of offensiveness, but laziness: I'm tired of answering questions about it. It's a time-wasting distraction when introducing new users

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-23 Thread Stephen Colebourne
t; > >maven.xdoc.poweredby.image=maven-frankenstein.png > > > >You can stash your own logo in there and choose it. > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Scott Tavares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-22 Thread Scott Tavares
of the other powerdby images, simply set maven.xdoc.poweredby.image=maven-frankenstein.png You can stash your own logo in there and choose it. - Original Message - From: "Scott Tavares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-22 Thread Ben Walding
Just change it via properties - http://maven.apache.org/reference/plugins/xdoc/faq.html#powered-by Scott Tavares wrote: Hi all, Right off the bat, this post is NOT intended to start a flame fest or offend anyone. With that said, I work for the State of Rhode Island department of corrections.

Re: The Maven Logo

2003-11-22 Thread khote
stash your own logo in there and choose it. - Original Message - From: "Scott Tavares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: The Maven Logo > Hi all, > > Right off the bat, t

The Maven Logo

2003-11-22 Thread Scott Tavares
Hi all, Right off the bat, this post is NOT intended to start a flame fest or offend anyone. With that said, I work for the State of Rhode Island department of corrections. We are at the very early stages of re-writing our core application. We will be using Maven as our build tool, and in so d