JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release

2013-05-21 Thread Howard W. Smith, Jr.
FYI, JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release[1] What is MyFaces response to this? :) When I was using Mojarra months ago (before I migrated to MyFaces), I think I voted for this JIRA for tracking purposes, so I still get updates/comments on this JIRA. [1] http

Re: JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release

2013-05-21 Thread Ted
I'm not sure MyFaces needs to respond to this. Did you look at the blog link you posted? MyFaces is still faster than the improved Mojarra... On 5/22/13, Howard W. Smith, Jr. smithh032...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release[1] What

Re: JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release

2013-05-21 Thread Howard W. Smith, Jr.
. smithh032...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release[1] What is MyFaces response to this? :) When I was using Mojarra months ago (before I migrated to MyFaces), I think I voted for this JIRA for tracking purposes, so I still get updates

Re: JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release

2013-05-21 Thread Howard W. Smith, Jr.
Forgot to mention (below/inline) On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Howard W. Smith, Jr. smithh032...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed/understood..MyFaces is 'still' faster than the enhanced Mojarra. I just like MyFaces users/list to see/know what others are saying and what others are trying to

Re: JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release

2013-05-21 Thread Leonardo Uribe
, Ted r6squee...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure MyFaces needs to respond to this. Did you look at the blog link you posted? MyFaces is still faster than the improved Mojarra... On 5/22/13, Howard W. Smith, Jr. smithh032...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, JSF Performance: Mojarra improves

Re: JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release

2013-05-21 Thread Howard W. Smith, Jr.
look at the blog link you posted? MyFaces is still faster than the improved Mojarra... On 5/22/13, Howard W. Smith, Jr. smithh032...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release[1] What is MyFaces response

Re: JSF Performance and Scalability issues

2009-09-08 Thread Werner Punz
Shasi Mitra Yarram schrieb: We have developed an application..These are the technologies we've used: - JDK 1.4.2 - JSF 1.1 (Myfaces 1.1.6) - Ajax4JSF 1.1.1 - Tomahawk 1.1.8 - Tiles 2.1.0 - Spring 2.5, Spring Security for security layer - iBatis 2.0 Databases: - SQL Server 2000, DB2 8, Sybase

Re: JSF Performance and Scalability issues

2009-09-08 Thread Werner Punz
We have limited usage of datatables. But wherever we have used, we have done managed bean (in request scope) binding with preservedatamodel as true. Ok I overlooked this part, this part definitely adds additional data to your session:

JSF Performance and Scalability issues

2009-09-07 Thread Shasi Mitra Yarram
We have developed an application..These are the technologies we've used: - JDK 1.4.2 - JSF 1.1 (Myfaces 1.1.6) - Ajax4JSF 1.1.1 - Tomahawk 1.1.8 - Tiles 2.1.0 - Spring 2.5, Spring Security for security layer - iBatis 2.0 Databases: - SQL Server 2000, DB2 8, Sybase Servers: - IBM

[ANNOUNCE] JSFCentral content: Orchestra, Trinidad, JSF performance, and more

2009-02-19 Thread Kito Mann
Hello everyone, I just wanted to let you know that we've got some excellent new content at JSFCentral this year. Check out the following: Ivankovits and Kitching's Orchestra: Conversations, JPA, and more This podcast is an interview between Mario Ivankovits and Simon Kitching recorded at

Re: JSF Performance

2007-11-15 Thread Andrew Robinson
From what I know, answers in-line I was browsing through the myfaces wiki and read through 'Performance'. There it says The MyFacesExtensionsFilter buffers and parses the response on every request. You can disable this. My questions are 1. Why do we need to parse the response on every

Re: JSF Performance

2007-11-15 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! On 11/15/07, *Andrew Robinson* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems like, for the most part, tomahawk is a dead project (no releases for a long time, no promotion of the sandbox to the core tomahawk project in a long time, etc.). I am still VERY happy

Re: JSF Performance

2007-11-15 Thread Grant Smith
On 11/15/07, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems like, for the most part, tomahawk is a dead project (no releases for a long time, no promotion of the sandbox to the core tomahawk project in a long time, etc.). Hopefully Trinidad will swallow Tomahawk in the near future and we

JSF performance improvement for thousands of users

2007-09-10 Thread Dave
I have a JSF page that has many levels of jsp includes. It would be a very large JSF tree, and accessed by thousands of users. Everytime a user accesses the page, the JSF tree needs to be built. Bean data are request scope, and saved by saveState. they can not be shared, they are different

Re: [Performance] Searching for jsf-performance-experiences with 200+ users

2006-11-23 Thread Clemens Schneider
Hi! Thanks for the info! Is the vertical scale in the diagrams of the JavaOne Performance Slides the CPU-Load? Martin, you mentioned partial state saving. I read some blog entries of jocob (facelets) and adam winer about partial state saving. Is it already implemented in facelets? (it's a

Re: [Performance] Searching for jsf-performance-experiences with 200+ users

2006-11-23 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Clemens, it's the time, relative to the longest request. For server-side SS it's around 2 secs. for the no-serialization column. Partial state saving is implemented in Trinidad - Jacob plans to do a version of Facelets where you can go totally stateless. regards, Martin On 11/23/06,

[Performance] Searching for jsf-performance-experiences with 200+ users

2006-11-22 Thread Clemens Schneider
Hi there, does somebody has gathered some founded experience in a jsf-production environment with 200+ users, accessing the website quite frequently in an intranet setup? I could only find some discussions dated early 2004 that stated, that the performance isn't that good. Can you point me to

Re: [Performance] Searching for jsf-performance-experiences with 200+ users

2006-11-22 Thread Cagatay Civici
Hi, Wiki about performance; http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Performance Cagatay On 11/22/06, Clemens Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, does somebody has gathered some founded experience in a jsf-production environment with 200+ users, accessing the website quite frequently in an

Re: [Performance] Searching for jsf-performance-experiences with 200+ users

2006-11-22 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Clemens, to save you the troubles of trying to migrate: MyFaces is as fast as the RI, our numbers even show a small advantage. Where we can all save performance is in partial state-saving. regards, Martin On 11/22/06, Cagatay Civici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Wiki about performance;

Re: [Performance] Searching for jsf-performance-experiences with 200+ users

2006-11-22 Thread Martin Marinschek
P.S.: this small advantage is true for RI 1.2 versus MyFaces 1.1, MyFaces 1.1 has been _way_ faster than RI 1.1 regards, Martin On 11/22/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Clemens, to save you the troubles of trying to migrate: MyFaces is as fast as the RI, our numbers even

RE: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-17 Thread Conway. Fintan \(IT Solutions\)
that it is very useful. Many thanks, Fintan -Original Message- From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2006 22:54 To: MyFaces Discussion; Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21); Matthias Wessendorf Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems I hope it works to send them to the list, but here

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-17 Thread Martin Marinschek
: Martin Marinschek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2006 22:54 To: MyFaces Discussion; Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21); Matthias Wessendorf Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems I hope it works to send them to the list, but here the slides! If it doesn't, kann either Matt or Alexander put 'em up

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-16 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
the slides nor notes nor was I there... regards Alexander -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessendorf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:02 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-16 Thread Martin Marinschek
there... regards Alexander -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessendorf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:02 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-16 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessendorf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:02 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems there should be more on this added to the wiki the JavaOne session was cool

RE: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-14 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KSFD 121\)
] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessendorf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:02 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems there should be more on this added to the wiki the JavaOne session was cool. On 7/12/06, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A search

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-14 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
there... regards Alexander -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessendorf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:02 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems there should be more on this added

RE: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-12 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KSFD 121\)
Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems I think this is already documented on the wiki, isnt' it ß On 7/11/06, Gerald Müllan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, sure thing; Just tell JSF in web.xml the context parameter: context-param param

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-12 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessendorf Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:08 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems I think this is already documented on the wiki, isnt' it ß On 7/11/06, Gerald Müllan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-11 Thread Gerald Müllan
of memory used in the HttpSesssion and therefor has an impact on server-performance. regards Alexander -Original Message- From: Mike Duffy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:27 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems Could you please rerun

RE: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-11 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KSFD 121\)
:17 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems Hi, sure thing; Just tell JSF in web.xml the context parameter: context-param param-nameorg.apache.myfaces.NUMBER_OF_VIEWS_IN_SESSION/param-name param-value20/param-value descriptionOnly applicable

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:27 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems Could you please rerun the metrics with the performance tuning suggestion found at: http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Performance Thx. Mike -- Gerald Müllan Schelleingasse 2/11 1040

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-10 Thread Mike Duffy
to know if anybody has ideas or code samples that make JSF perform better? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JSF-Performance-Problems-tf1912565.html#a5236070 Sent from the MyFaces - Users forum at Nabble.com. __ Do You Yahoo

RE: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-09 Thread Yee CN
, persistence, AJAX etc. IMHO reduce development time is still the most important factor to consider. Regards, Yee From: jfaronson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 8:11 AM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: JSF Performance Problems I grabbed the attachments from

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-09 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
:11 AM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: JSF Performance Problems I grabbed the attachments from the original performance bug https://javaserverfaces.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3 and ran some JMeter tests against the JSP only and the JSF versions. The pages are really simple

RE: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-09 Thread Dhananjay Prasanna
controllers--especially if they are EJB backed). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessendorf Sent: Monday, 10 July 2006 4:17 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: JSF Performance Problems Faclets gives you +10 - 15% more On 7/9/06

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-09 Thread Dennis Byrne
Are you using client or server side state saving? Using the latter will cut response times in half. Dennis Byrne -Original Message- From: Dhananjay Prasanna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 12:40 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: JSF Performance Problems I

JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-08 Thread jfaronson
important in real life projects so it's more than a theoretical problem. I'd also like to know if anybody has ideas or code samples that make JSF perform better? View this message in context: JSF Performance Problems Sent from the MyFaces - Users forum at Nabble.com.

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-08 Thread Jordan
, count on your backend portion (i.e. SQL queries)being the area that needs to be addressed first. From: jfaronson To: users@myfaces.apache.org Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 5:11 PM Subject: JSF Performance Problems I grabbed the attachments from the original performance bug https

Re: JSF Performance Problems

2006-07-08 Thread Dennis Byrne
You may want to look at the wiki for this one. http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Performance Dennis Byrne -Original Message- From: jfaronson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2006 08:11 PM To: users@myfaces.apache.org Subject: JSF Performance Problems I grabbed

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Vesa Lindfors
: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:05 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: How to improve JSF performance? Hi, Gerald Could you advise where I can find t:document TLD ? Is it in tomahawk extension inside myfaces1,1/1.1.1 ? I cannot find this tag in documentation. Thanks, yasushi Gerald Müllan wrote

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Aleksei Valikov
Hi. My environment: MyFaces 1.1.3 + Tomahawk 1.1.2 + Facelet 1.0.4 + javax.faces.STATE_SAVING_METHOD =client I'm testing StreamingAddResource as told in Wiki to get some performance improvements. Everything worked ok after modifying jsp files and web.xml configuration. Except that time to

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Gerald Müllan
-Original Message- From: Yasushi Okubo [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:05 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: How to improve JSF performance? Hi, Gerald Could you advise where I can find t:document TLD ? Is it in tomahawk extension inside

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Vesa Lindfors
to 1.1.3, that will be great. thanks, yasushi -Original Message- From: Yasushi Okubo [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:05 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: How to improve JSF performance? Hi, Gerald Could you advise where I

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Aleksei Valikov
Hi. Aleksei, how (and where) can the lastModified be set manually? Directly somewhere in the jar? See tomahawk-${version}.jar/org/apache/myfaces/renderkit/html/util/AddResources.properties. Unpack the jar, correct the file and pack it back. I have tested earlier the server side and I know

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Gerald Müllan
: Yasushi Okubo [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:05 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: How to improve JSF performance? Hi, Gerald Could you advise where I can find t:document TLD ? Is it in tomahawk extension inside myfaces1,1/1.1.1 ? I

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Werner Punz
Mario Ivankovits schrieb: Hi! We have the technical requirement to stay with JSPs. :( Well, we use JSP to describe the JSF view too - we slowly convert our application from JSP to JSF (so we have both JSP embedded in JSF and pure JSF), and I cant say that the performance it that worse. It

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! Well, we use JSP to describe the JSF view too - we slowly convert our application from JSP to JSF (so we have both JSP embedded in JSF and pure JSF), and I cant say that the performance it that worse. It can be that worse, actually, client side state saving is a huge burden, but it

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Jonathan Harley
Mario Ivankovits wrote: It can be that worse, actually, client side state saving is a huge burden, but it does not have to be, the correct state saving strategy (server side) can give a huge push. Oh, well, for sure, and I dont know why one would like to use client side state saving in real

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Andrew Robinson
Unfortunately client side state is the only way to get multiple component trees to not conflict (IFRAME, popup windows, user has multiple windows open, etc). I am using server state and as a result, I cannot use some of these techniques (like the jenia4faces dialog). If that was fixed

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! Unfortunately client side state is the only way to get multiple component trees to not conflict (IFRAME, popup windows, user has multiple windows open, etc). Is this still the case? MyFaces holds multiple versions per view - so this should be no longer a problem. For sure, only a number of

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! Being slow is better than running out of memory. Is memory really a factor here? The view isnt that huge, is it? So even if the view is 5k big and you store the last 20 per user and expect 1000 concurrent users you'll end with 100Mb view data on the server - you will have many other problems

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Kienenberger
On 5/22/06, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, we use JSP to describe the JSF view too - we slowly convert our application from JSP to JSF (so we have both JSP embedded in JSF and pure JSF), and I cant say that the performance it that worse. It can be that worse, actually,

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! I only use client-side state saving in my applications. client-side state saving eliminates the back button problem, and it can survive the death of the application server transparently. There's also no issues with session timeouts. Ok, I understand, in the past I also used client-side

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Kienenberger
On 5/22/06, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I understand, in the past I also used client-side state saving, but things happening lately showed me that in the end I cant stick with it. Transparent persistence (hibernate) - application transaction - to tell only the headlines ;-)

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-22 Thread Mikhail Grushinskiy
StreamingAddResource doesn't let me implement error page redirection. It flushes response buffer and if error happens after thatyou can't forward to the error page. It seems the obly workable solution for serious application is server side state with no serialization. On 5/22/06, Aleksei Valikov

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-21 Thread iSquareOne LLC
can advise me how I can use it without upgrading to 1.1.3, that will be great. thanks, yasushi -Original Message- From: Yasushi Okubo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:05 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: How to improve JSF performance? Hi, Gerald Could you

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-20 Thread Gerald Müllan
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:05 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: How to improve JSF performance? Hi, Gerald Could you advise where I can find t:document TLD ? Is it in tomahawk extension inside myfaces1,1/1.1.1 ? I cannot find this tag in documentation. Thanks, yasushi Gerald

How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-19 Thread iSquareOne LLC
caused the slow down? Are there ways to improve JSF performance? We build the application on My Faces 1.1 and JBoss 4.0.2Any thoughts are very welcome! Thanks in advance!- Shawn How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-19 Thread Murat Hazer
is much worse than the pure JSP application. We did not expect that much difference. JSF uses JSP page after all. So, what could have caused the slow down? Are there ways to improve JSF performance? We build the application on My Faces 1.1 and JBoss 4.0.2Any thoughts are very welcome! Thanks

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-19 Thread Gerald Müllan
to improve JSF performance? We build the application on My Faces 1.1 and JBoss 4.0.2 Any thoughts are very welcome! Thanks in advance! - Shawn How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. -- Murat HAZER Elektrik-Elektronik

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-19 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! We have the technical requirement to stay with JSPs. :( Well, we use JSP to describe the JSF view too - we slowly convert our application from JSP to JSF (so we have both JSP embedded in JSF and pure JSF), and I cant say that the performance it that worse. But there must be a way to put JSF

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-19 Thread Yasushi Okubo
the JSF application performance is much worse than the pure JSP application. We did not expect that much difference. JSF uses JSP page after all. So, what could have caused the slow down? Are there ways to improve JSF performance? We build the application on My Faces 1.1 and JBoss 4.0.2 Any

RE: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-19 Thread David G. Friedman
Discussion Subject: Re: How to improve JSF performance? Hi, Gerald Could you advise where I can find t:document TLD ? Is it in tomahawk extension inside myfaces1,1/1.1.1 ? I cannot find this tag in documentation. Thanks, yasushi Gerald Müllan wrote: Performance measurements have shown that plain

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-19 Thread Yasushi Okubo
to 1.1.3, that will be great. thanks, yasushi -Original Message- From: Yasushi Okubo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:05 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: How to improve JSF performance? Hi, Gerald Could you advise where I can find t:document TLD

Re: How to improve JSF performance?

2006-05-19 Thread Mike Duffy
all. So, what could have caused the slow down? Are there ways to improve JSF performance? We build the application on My Faces 1.1 and JBoss 4.0.2 Any thoughts are very welcome! Thanks in advance! - Shawn -- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo