RE: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-25 Thread Robert - elists
mouss is french, you must know ;-) French mouse? ;-) http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/animatedfilms/ratatouille/ No offense intended of course... it really was a cute movie... Time for vacations! - rh

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-25 Thread Jon Trulson
something like this: digitalalias.net http://digitalalias.net 14400 IN MX 0 digitalalias.net http://digitalalias.net What is 14400, I'm guessing a port of some kind. Besides that the wiki suggests that my first fake mx record should be set at 10, then my real mx record at 20, and then another

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-25 Thread mouss
Robert - elists wrote: mouss is french, you must know ;-) French mouse? mousse means foam. Franciscaner weiss? ;-) http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/animatedfilms/ratatouille/ No offense intended of course... it really was a cute movie... I loved it. Time for vacations!

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-24 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 24. Juni 2008 Benny Pedersen wrote: 14400 is 4 hours (4*3660) which is a bit low for an MX 86400 (24 hours) is probably better. nice calc for 4 hours :-) mouss is french, you must know ;-) mfg zmi -- // Michael Monnerie, Ing.BSc- http://it-management.at //

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-24 Thread mouss
Michael Monnerie wrote: On Dienstag, 24. Juni 2008 Benny Pedersen wrote: 14400 is 4 hours (4*3660) which is a bit low for an MX 86400 (24 hours) is probably better. nice calc for 4 hours :-) mouss is french, you must know ;-) yep. I have problems with anything but the

Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread Marc Ferguson
What is 14400, I'm guessing a port of some kind. Besides that the wiki suggests that my first fake mx record should be set at 10, then my real mx record at 20, and then another fake one at 30. Why is this since my current mx record is set to 0? fake0.example.com 10 realmx.example.com 20 fake1

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
first fake mx record should be set at 10, then my real mx record at 20, and then another fake one at 30. Why is this since my current mx record is set to 0? The numbers is irelevant, only the order is. 0-1-2 will have the same effect as 10-20-30 or 10-95-100. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [EMAIL

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread McDonald, Dan
-to-live. It tells the world how often (in seconds) they should check back to see if this record has changed. You are telling people to check once every 4 hours. I'm guessing a port of some kind. Besides that the wiki suggests that my first fake mx record should be set at 10, then my real mx

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread Alex Woick
Marc Ferguson schrieb am 20.06.2008 16:38: I saw on the wiki a trick to use fake mx records in order to weed out spam (http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OtherTricks). I'm using Evolution at home and on my laptop and I have the spamassassin plugin so I'm constantly clicking the junk icon.

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, McDonald, Dan wrote: But I'm not convinced that twiddling with fake MX records will reduce your spam level any. Cue Mr. Perkel... :) -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread Diego Pomatta
://digitalalias.net 14400 IN MX 0 digitalalias.net http://digitalalias.net What is 14400, I'm guessing a port of some kind. Besides that the wiki suggests that my first fake mx record should be set at 10, then my real mx record at 20, and then another fake one at 30. Why is this since my

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread Marc Perkel
://digitalalias.net 14400 IN MX 0 digitalalias.net http://digitalalias.net What is 14400, I'm guessing a port of some kind. Besides that the wiki suggests that my first fake mx record should be set at 10, then my real mx record at 20, and then another fake one at 30. Why is this since my

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread mouss
this: digitalalias.net http://digitalalias.net 14400 IN MX 0 digitalalias.net http://digitalalias.net What is 14400, I'm guessing a port of some kind. Besides that the wiki suggests that my first fake mx record should be set at 10, then my real mx record at 20, and then another fake one at 30. Why

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread mouss
0 digitalalias.net What is 14400, I'm guessing a port of some kind. nice try :) it's an (optional) TTL. http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ 14400 is 4 hours (4*3660) which is a bit low for an MX 86400 (24 hours) is probably better. Besides that the wiki suggests that my first fake mx

Re: Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, June 23, 2008 21:27, mouss wrote: 14400 is 4 hours (4*3660) which is a bit low for an MX 86400 (24 hours) is probably better. nice calc for 4 hours :-) Benny Pedersen Need more webspace ? http://www.servage.net/?coupon=cust37098

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-23 11:18:57, schrieb Robin Bowes: Marc Perkel wrote: First to do what I'm doing you have to be using EXIM. If you aren't running exim then you just can't do it. In fact, with all due respect, I can't see how anyone can do spam filtering and not use exim as their MTA. qpsmtpd

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-22 Thread mouss
Jo Rhett wrote: On May 21, 2008, at 1:44 PM, mouss wrote: Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) start by updating the RFCs. The RFCs are, and have always been clear on how MX records are supposed to be used. Different people interpret when a delivery attempt succeeds differently.

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-22 Thread Robin Bowes
Marc Perkel wrote: Jo Rhett wrote: On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment Agreed. Qmail should die!

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread Jo Rhett
On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy,

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread mouss
Jo Rhett wrote: On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment start by updating the RFCs.

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread Marc Perkel
mouss wrote: Jo Rhett wrote: On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment start by updating the RFCs.

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread mouss
Marc Perkel wrote: mouss wrote: Jo Rhett wrote: On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment start by

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread Jo Rhett
On May 21, 2008, at 1:44 PM, mouss wrote: Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) start by updating the RFCs. The RFCs are, and have always been clear on how MX records are supposed to be used. Are you just a nonsense machine? The SA list's personal eliza run through the borker? -- Jo

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-21 Thread Marc Perkel
Jo Rhett wrote: On May 7, 2008, at 9:17 AM, mouss wrote: what if he comes back later to the same MX, again and again (AFAIK, this is the case with qmail)? mail will be lost. snarky comment Good. Time for qmail to die ;-) /snarky comment Agreed. Qmail should die!

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Justin Mason
numbered fake MX record. Here's how you would configure your domain: A generous offer and an admirable effort. But if you think I or my clients are going to route mail to your servers you are mistaken. Even if I knew you personally, I don't think ethics or common sense would allow me to do so

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread ram
IOn Wed, 2008-05-07 at 08:50 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread ram
benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record. Here's how you would configure your domain: A generous offer and an admirable effort. But if you think I or my clients are going to route mail to your servers you are mistaken. Even if I knew you

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Marc Perkel
fake MX record. Here's how you would configure your domain: mail.yourdomain.com MX 10 tarbaby.junkemailfilter.com MX 20 I will never actually receive your email. The recipient all always get a 451 error just after the DATA command. So if your servers are down you won't lose anything. A 451 error

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 8 May 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: To participate all you have to do is set your highest numbered MX to point to: tarbaby.junkemailfilter.com Several people have asked me how I'm doing this and can they have my code to do it themselves. My situation is unique enough that it just won't

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Marc Perkel
John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: To participate all you have to do is set your highest numbered MX to point to: tarbaby.junkemailfilter.com Several people have asked me how I'm doing this and can they have my code to do it themselves. My situation is unique

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Kevin Parris
Well now, if a spambot actually does start recognizing and avoiding his system, doesn't that mean he wins and the spammer loses? John Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/08/08 12:11 PM On Thu, 8 May 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: To participate all you have to do is set your highest numbered MX to

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Marc Perkel
Kevin Parris wrote: Well now, if a spambot actually does start recognizing and avoiding his system, doesn't that mean he wins and the spammer loses? I would say YES! You should make an effort to clean it up so that others *can* install it as a standalone daemon, as I suggested. Why?

RE: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-08 Thread Maurice Lucas
: donderdag 8 mei 2008 19:07 To: Kevin Parris Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record Kevin Parris wrote: Well now, if a spambot actually does start recognizing and avoiding his system, doesn't that mean he wins and the spammer loses

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread mouss
Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record. Here's how you would configure your

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread DAve
Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record. Here's how you would configure your

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
- Original Message - Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record. Here's

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Randy Ramsdell
DAve wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record. Here's how you would

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread DAve
Randy Ramsdell wrote: DAve wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Marc Perkel
Randy Ramsdell wrote: DAve wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Randy Ramsdell
numbered fake MX record. Here's how you would configure your domain: A generous offer and an admirable effort. But if you think I or my clients are going to route mail to your servers you are mistaken. Even if I knew you personally, I don't think ethics or common sense would allow me to do so

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Aaron Wolfe
and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record. Here's how you would configure your domain: A generous offer and an admirable effort. But if you think I or my clients are going to route mail to your servers you are mistaken. Even if I

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 7 May 2008, Aaron Wolfe wrote: If you just want IPs, maybe instead of running an SMTP service that 450s, you would want to use a packet filter like iptables instead. You could get the IPs simply by what packets you saw come in to port 25 and noone would have to worry you were

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM, John Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 7 May 2008, Aaron Wolfe wrote: If you just want IPs, maybe instead of running an SMTP service that 450s, you would want to use a packet filter like iptables instead. You could get the IPs simply by what packets

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 7 May 2008, Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM, John Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) Mark is trying to collect data on how the remote MTA behaves when presented with a 451 tmpfail result. A firewall rule can't do that. From his message: I'm not interested in the

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread DAve
John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 7 May 2008, Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM, John Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) Mark is trying to collect data on how the remote MTA behaves when presented with a 451 tmpfail result. A firewall rule can't do that. From his message: I'm not

Fake MX Record

2007-07-22 Thread Bubuk Gabrok
On http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OtherTricks (Fake MX Record) , where do I insert these values: fake0.domain.com 10 realmx.domain.com 20 fake1.domain.com 30 TIA.

Re: Fake MX Record

2007-07-22 Thread Evan Platt
At 08:17 PM 7/22/2007, Bubuk Gabrok wrote: On http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OtherTricks (Fake MX Record) , where do I insert these values: fake0.domain.com 10 realmx.domain.com 20 fake1.domain.com 30 TIA. In your Zonefile for your DNS. Evan

Re: Fake MX Record

2007-07-22 Thread Bubuk Gabrok
On 7/23/07, Evan Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:17 PM 7/22/2007, Bubuk Gabrok wrote: On http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OtherTricks (Fake MX Record) , where do I insert these values: fake0.domain.com 10 realmx.domain.com 20 fake1.domain.com 30 TIA. In your Zonefile for your DNS

Re: Fake MX Record

2007-07-22 Thread SM
At 20:17 22-07-2007, Bubuk Gabrok wrote: On http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OtherTricks (Fake MX Record) , where do I insert these values: Set your DNS records accordingly. The statement that No good email is lost is subjective. Regards, -sm