Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:38:13PM -0400, James Pratt wrote: -Original Message- From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:00 PM To: spamassassin-users Subject: Re: Looking for hosts to white list I don't know if you noticed but I'm

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 07:50:33PM -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: What I'm looking to do with host name base white lists is use forward confirmed RDNS to keep certian domain from being accidentally blacklisted. What's funny is that you already mentioned this a bunch of times, but it seems people

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Rob McEwen
Henrik K wrote: What's funny is that you already mentioned this a bunch of times, but it seems people ignore you, since they didn't seem to get it. ;) While Marc is a bit eccentric, it would be nice to see what would be the result if someone actually worked with him to better the stuff. How

RE: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread James Pratt
-Original Message- From: Henrik K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:45 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Looking for hosts to white list On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:38:13PM -0400, James Pratt wrote: -Original Message- From

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, April 23, 2008 02:03, Theo Van Dinter wrote: fwiw, generally speaking, a uribl whitelist is just a list of domains that shouldn't be blacklisted. it does not imply a list of domains that should be considered non-spam and therefore gain negative points from SA via some

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Perkel
Henrik K wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 07:50:33PM -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: What I'm looking to do with host name base white lists is use forward confirmed RDNS to keep certian domain from being accidentally blacklisted. What's funny is that you already mentioned this a bunch of

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Justin Mason
Marc Perkel writes: Yep - one of the ideas I originated here is this list is the idea of blocking spam based on linking to spam sites. It took almost 1 1/2 tears of talking about it before others picked up on the idea and turned it into URI blacklists. If you can find old message from around

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Jon Armitage
Justin Mason wrote: sorry Marc, you weren't the first to come up with that idea. He didn't say that he was, just that he was the first to raise it on the list. Jon

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Perkel
Jon Armitage wrote: Justin Mason wrote: sorry Marc, you weren't the first to come up with that idea. He didn't say that he was, just that he was the first to raise it on the list. Jon It may have been 2001. But at the time I remember saying that all spam wants you to do something

RE: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Chris Santerre
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2008-04-23 10:48 To: Marc Perkel Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Looking for hosts to white list Marc Perkel writes: Yep - one of the ideas I originated here is this list is the idea

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Perkel
Chris Santerre wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2008-04-23 10:48 To: Marc Perkel Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Looking for hosts to white list Marc Perkel writes: Yep - one of the ideas I originated here

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Adam Stephens
Henrik K wrote: Marc Perkel. Marc is a leader in the spam filtering industry and was behind Has/Does anyone use his sa rules he has posted on his site? if so how, how was the accuracy? http://marc.info/?l=spamassassin-usersm=120611144819910w=2 I tried the hostkarma lists,

Re: Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Dallas Engelken
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Tue, April 22, 2008 23:47, Marc Perkel wrote: I'm looking for people who are running URI blacklists, but I'm more interested in your whitelist information. I have an extensive list myself and looking for partners to swap data with. but uribl.com have a hidded

RE: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Robert - elists
Snip If anyone has tested HostKarma already... and found it promising, but a little lacking... I suggest testing it again. It is even better now. In fact, most DNSBLs do not suddenly come on the scene perfect. Most have had MUCH growing pains. Therefore, all newer DNBSLs shouldn't

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Perkel
Robert - elists wrote: Snip If anyone has tested HostKarma already... and found it promising, but a little lacking... I suggest testing it again. It is even better now. In fact, most DNSBLs do not suddenly come on the scene perfect. Most have had MUCH growing pains. Therefore,

RE: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-23 Thread Robert - elists
Yes Marc Please start a JMF general support maillist for those that want to be part of it. Make sure it cannot become a spam forum in itself and is truly opt in with verify I highly suggest that you post to it frequently, before any major or minor changes to JMF hardware or software

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-22 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, April 22, 2008 23:47, Marc Perkel wrote: I'm looking for people who are running URI blacklists, but I'm more interested in your whitelist information. I have an extensive list myself and looking for partners to swap data with. hell no, dont give idears to spammers by put whitelisted

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-22 Thread Marc Perkel
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Tue, April 22, 2008 23:47, Marc Perkel wrote: I'm looking for people who are running URI blacklists, but I'm more interested in your whitelist information. I have an extensive list myself and looking for partners to swap data with. hell no, dont give idears

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-22 Thread Theo Van Dinter
fwiw, generally speaking, a uribl whitelist is just a list of domains that shouldn't be blacklisted. it does not imply a list of domains that should be considered non-spam and therefore gain negative points from SA via some not-currently-existant rule. there's really nothing stopping spammers

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Scheidell
I don't know if you noticed but I'm a spam filtering company. Must be true, its on his web site: This filter was developed by company founder and all around tech genius Marc Perkel. Marc is a leader in the spam filtering industry and was behind several of the spam filtering technologies

RE: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-22 Thread James Pratt
-Original Message- From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:00 PM To: spamassassin-users Subject: Re: Looking for hosts to white list I don't know if you noticed but I'm a spam filtering company. Must be true, its on his web site

RE: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-22 Thread Steve Radich
Subject: RE: Looking for hosts to white list -Original Message- From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:00 PM To: spamassassin-users Subject: Re: Looking for hosts to white list I don't know if you noticed but I'm a spam filtering company

Re: Looking for hosts to white list

2008-04-22 Thread Marc Perkel
What I'm looking to do with host name base white lists is use forward confirmed RDNS to keep certian domain from being accidentally blacklisted. One of my latest projects is to improve the accuracy of my blacklist which is now around 2 million IP addresses. So it's not about adding white