Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-09 Thread FC Mario Patty
Hi, I wonder why spamassassin detects email sent from android to our mail server as spams? I ran spamassassin -D the_email and got result as below Content analysis details: (13.8 points, 4.0 required) pts rule name description --

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-09 Thread Nick Warr
Il 09/03/2012 10.28, FC Mario Patty ha scritto: Hi, I wonder why spamassassin detects email sent from android to our mail server as spams? I ran spamassassin -D the_email and got result as below Content analysis details: (13.8 points, 4.0 required) pts rule name description

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-09 Thread FC Mario Patty
I'm sorry for not giving full information before. We set our mail server to use SMTP with TLS (port 587) and the outgoing server (of the mail client on android smart phone) as our server itself (in other words, not relaying through the provider server). Thank you for the suggestion. Regards,

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-09 Thread Simon Loewenthal
On 09/03/12 11:29, FC Mario Patty wrote: I'm sorry for not giving full information before. We set our mail server to use SMTP with TLS (port 587) and the outgoing server (of the mail client on android smart phone) as our server itself (in other words, not relaying through the provider

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-09 Thread Nick
Il 09/03/2012 12.20, Simon Loewenthal ha scritto: On 09/03/12 11:29, FC Mario Patty wrote: I'm sorry for not giving full information before. We set our mail server to use SMTP with TLS (port 587) and the outgoing server (of the mail client on android smart phone) as our server itself (in other

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-04 Thread LuKreme
On 25 Feb 2012, at 11:17 , Michelle Konzack wrote: There is something in spamassassin which does recursive rDNS lookups on all Received: headers No there isn’t. -- Exit, pursued by a bear.

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-03 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello xTrade Assessory, Am 2012-03-01 16:27:41, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: your domain has no A Record --[ command 'dig ANY tamay-dogan.net' ]- ;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode. tamay-dogan.net.3600IN SOA dns1.tamay-dogan.net.

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-03 Thread xTrade Assessory
Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello xTrade Assessory, Am 2012-03-01 16:27:41, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: your domain has no A Record --[ command 'dig ANY tamay-dogan.net' ]- ;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode. tamay-dogan.net. 3600IN SOA

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-03 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello xTrade Assessory, Am 2012-03-03 14:59:16, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: not quite ... your domain has no A record Ehm: tamay-dogan.net.3600IN MX 10 mail.tamay-dogan.net. mail.tamay-dogan.net. 3600IN A 78.47.247.21 Do I miss something? Hans

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-03 Thread xTrade Assessory
Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello xTrade Assessory, Am 2012-03-03 14:59:16, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: not quite ... your domain has no A record Ehm: tamay-dogan.net. 3600IN MX 10 mail.tamay-dogan.net. mail.tamay-dogan.net. 3600IN A 78.47.247.21 Do I

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-03 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-03-03 17:43, Michelle Konzack skrev: --[ command 'dig ANY tamay-dogan.net' ]- dig +trace tamay-dogan.net dig +dnssec +norecurse tamay-dogan.net all works fine here

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-03 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-03-03 18:59, xTrade Assessory skrev: not quite ... your domain has no A record dig ANY www.tamay-dogan.net a dig ANY www.tamay-dogan.net both works here

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-03 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-03-03 19:11, Michelle Konzack skrev: Do I miss something? MX is not A or , but its perfectly ok

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-03 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-03-03 19:25, xTrade Assessory skrev: the A record for a domain is the fall back for MTAs if no MX is available what mta do try this ?, what rfc says there must be a A for every hostname pr MX ?

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-03 Thread xTrade Assessory
Benny Pedersen wrote: Den 2012-03-03 19:25, xTrade Assessory skrev: the A record for a domain is the fall back for MTAs if no MX is available what mta do try this ? any , what rfc says there must be a A for every hostname pr MX ? firstable what you wrote here does not make any sense at

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-03 Thread xTrade Assessory
Benny Pedersen wrote: Den 2012-03-03 18:59, xTrade Assessory skrev: not quite ... your domain has no A record dig ANY www.tamay-dogan.net a dig ANY www.tamay-dogan.net both works here first BS is querying the www record second, BS is both works, what firstable is no answer at all

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-02 Thread RW
On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:18:56 +0100 Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello RW, Am 2012-02-25 22:42:47, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: I think that this is pretty conclusive that it's nothing to do with Spamassassin. It doesn't look anything like what I'd expect for a Spamassassin-based

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Bowie Bailey, Am 2012-02-27 11:00:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Ok. So you DO have rDNS, just not a customized one. That should not cause problems in most cases. Right but this conflicts wit SSL certs That sounds like an MTA configuration. Why do you think it is related to

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello RW, Am 2012-02-25 22:42:47, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: I think that this is pretty conclusive that it's nothing to do with Spamassassin. It doesn't look anything like what I'd expect for a Spamassassin-based rejection. I looks like some basic MTA check. Another thing is that

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-01 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 3/1/2012 10:10 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: That sounds like an MTA configuration. Why do you think it is related to SA? Because the error messages are based on SA values. Ok. What was the error message? I don't recall you showing an error message that mentioned SA. -- Bowie

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Bowie Bailey, Am 2012-03-01 10:52:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Ok. What was the error message? I don't recall you showing an error message that mentioned SA. Currently I am not in my office and do not know exatly the content, but the MAILER-DAEMON message had included 6-8 lines

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-01 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 3/1/2012 1:25 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Bowie Bailey, Am 2012-03-01 10:52:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Ok. What was the error message? I don't recall you showing an error message that mentioned SA. Currently I am not in my office and do not know exatly the content, but

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-03-01 Thread xTrade Assessory
Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Bowie Bailey, Am 2012-03-01 10:52:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Ok. What was the error message? I don't recall you showing an error message that mentioned SA. Currently I am not in my office and do not know exatly the content, but the MAILER-DAEMON

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 2/25/2012 2:07 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Bowie Bailey, Am 2012-02-24 12:42:02, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Why not? It doesn't have to be specific. public41.tamay-dogan.net would work fine. What is the downside of having a rDNS entry? ...because my ISP @office (Alice) offer

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello RW, Am 2012-02-24 14:00:11, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: As far as positive scoring rules are concerned, Spamassassin should only care about the reverse dns of the last external relay, and mail.tamay-dogan.net has impeccable dns. Right, and it was a problem with spamassassin on

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Bowie Bailey, Am 2012-02-24 12:42:02, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Why not? It doesn't have to be specific. public41.tamay-dogan.net would work fine. What is the downside of having a rDNS entry? ...because my ISP @office (Alice) offer only fixed IP (85.182.220.41) with only but

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Joe Sniderman, Am 2012-02-24 18:45:52, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: c) Public mail server mail.tamay-dogan.net (78.47.247.21) d) Receiving mail server So far, so good. If now d) is runing spamassassin, thaen my messages are to 90% rejected. Strange. What tests

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-25 Thread RW
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:17:36 +0100 Michelle Konzack wrote: You haven't quoted any rules that are firing inappropriately. Do you have any evidence that this is anything to do with Spamassassin or reverse dns? ...because it is NOT my spamassassin which reject MY mails. So there's no

Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
In relation to the previous poster with the fetchmail problem (the receiver should hide fetchmail received header by adding set invisible in the global section) I have the probvlem, that receiving MTAs runing spamassassin consider my mails as spam du to the received headers... Scenario:

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-24 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 24.02.2012 12:23, schrieb Michelle Konzack: In relation to the previous poster with the fetchmail problem (the receiver should hide fetchmail received header by adding set invisible in the global section) I have the probvlem, that receiving MTAs runing spamassassin consider my mails

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-24 Thread RW
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:23:21 +0100 Michelle Konzack wrote: In relation to the previous poster with the fetchmail problem (the receiver should hide fetchmail received header by adding set invisible in the global section) That doesn't sound like like a optimum solution unless you're

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-24 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 2/24/2012 6:23 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: In relation to the previous poster with the fetchmail problem (the receiver should hide fetchmail received header by adding set invisible in the global section) I have the probvlem, that receiving MTAs runing spamassassin consider my mails as spam

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-24 Thread Jari Fredriksson
24.2.2012 13:23, Michelle Konzack kirjoitti: In relation to the previous poster with the fetchmail problem (the receiver should hide fetchmail received header by adding set invisible in the global section) I have the probvlem, that receiving MTAs runing spamassassin consider my mails as

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-24 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 24.02.2012 15:00, schrieb RW: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:32:35 +0100 Robert Schetterer wrote: I am not realy sure if this fixes your problem but i have set score RDNS_NONE 0 cause the default points at this parameter looks like nonsense to me i have also a scenario with private net

Re: Spamassassin detect my mails as spam

2012-02-24 Thread Joe Sniderman
On 02/24/2012 06:23 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: In relation to the previous poster with the fetchmail problem (the receiver should hide fetchmail received header by adding set invisible in the global section) I have the probvlem, that receiving MTAs runing spamassassin consider my mails