Re: Bayes auto-learn - Solved

2017-08-11 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 11 Aug 2017, Scott wrote: I'm chicken. :D I don't have much (almost no) experience overriding those yum packages. It's pretty simple, just "yum install {local_filename}" And those warnings I got when I rebuilt from source made me nervous

Re: Bayes auto-learn - Solved

2017-08-11 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017, Scott wrote: I'm chicken. :D I don't have much (almost no) experience overriding those yum packages. It's pretty simple, just "yum install {local_filename}" And those warnings I got when I rebuilt from source made me nervous. I suppose I could publish the Centos 7 x8

Re: Bayes auto-learn - Solved

2017-08-11 Thread Scott
I'm chicken. :D I don't have much (almost no) experience overriding those yum packages. And those warnings I got when I rebuilt from source made me nervous. Maybe when the dust settles... -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto

Re: Bayes auto-learn - Solved

2017-08-11 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017, Scott wrote: Centos7 (selinux disabled at the time of testing) Spamassassin 3.4.0 Next on your plate: upgrading to 3.4.1... https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/25/Everything/source/tree/Packages/s/spamassassin-3.4.1-9.fc25.src.rpm It works jes' fine he

Re: Bayes auto-learn - Solved

2017-08-11 Thread Scott
I strongly suspected bayes auto-learn was not functioning. Read the thread for evidence. In local.cf had the bayes path set to: /etc/mail/bayes/bayes Don't remember if it came packaged that way or if I followed someone else's "guide" to ed up with that bad location. I do s

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening, tentative success....

2017-08-11 Thread Scott
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Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening, tentative success....

2017-08-11 Thread Tom Hendrikx
xOn 11-08-17 17:05, Scott wrote: > I'm going to go back and look at my build notes but I think that directory > got created for me. It's just as possible i followed some "guide". I am > positive i did not think it up on my own LOL. I remember more than set of > instructions one with that path se

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening, tentative success....

2017-08-11 Thread Scott
care at this point. -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto-learn-not-happening-tp138065p138299.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening, tentative success....

2017-08-11 Thread RW
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 16:22:50 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > don't set the path, that way it should work OOTB. Maybe amavis is different and has it's own internl default location, but the equivalent for spamd relies on the packager giving the spamd user a unix home directory. I once saw a

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening, tentative success....

2017-08-11 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.08.17 20:15, Scott wrote: About the only difference in my old, functioning box and this new "clean" install was the location of the bayes files. Old box: /var/spool/amavisd/.spamassassin/ New box: /etc/mail/bayes On 11.08.17 16:22, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Do did you change bayes p

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening, tentative success....

2017-08-11 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.08.17 20:15, Scott wrote: About the only difference in my old, functioning box and this new "clean" install was the location of the bayes files. Old box: /var/spool/amavisd/.spamassassin/ New box: /etc/mail/bayes Do did you change bayes path in first place? amavis is the only one who pr

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening, tentative success....

2017-08-11 Thread Scott
to follow. -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto-learn-not-happening-tp138065p138295.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening, tentative success....

2017-08-11 Thread RW
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 20:15:48 -0700 (MST) Scott wrote: > For reasons beyond my skill set, > SA will not auto-learn to a bayes db in a folder in /etc/mail/bayes. > Regardless of wide open permissions on everything except /etc. And > the user's confirmed ability to write to th

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening - tentative success

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
Aug 10, 2017; 10:15pm Scottonline Scott Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening, tentative success Well, here's a development... About the only difference in my old, functioning box and this new "clean" install was the location of the bayes files. Old box: /var/spool/amavis

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening, tentative success....

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
bayes folder from the default. I configure the bayes path to: bayes_path /var/spool/amavisd/bayes/bayes Send my test message, voila, db files created, and autolearn=ham Success! (tentative, cautiously optimistic) I hope I have solved the mystery. For reasons beyond my skill set, SA will not au

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
nlocking lock Aug 10 16:48:39.119 [7524] dbg: locker: safe_unlock: unlink /etc/mail/bayes/bayes.lock -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto-learn-not-happening-tp138065p138266.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
ng IT a problem? Is this a hint? (fingers crossed) -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto-learn-not-happening-tp138065p138264.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
0349 0 non-token data: nspam 0.000 0478 0 non-token data: nham 0.000 0 166030 0 non-token data: ntokens -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto-learn-not-happening-tp138065p138

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread AM
figured some conservative values for > auto-learn. I've enabled it properly AFAIK, but I can't see any sign of it > working. > > I have these set in local.cf > use_bayes 1 > bayes_auto_learn1 > bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -1.7 > bay

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
OK, so I don't think auto-learn works on spam. What about HAM? I've raised the floor to auto-learn HAM to 1. Before anyone gives me any grief, it's just for testing. I'll rebuild the bayes db from a corpus when I get it working. So SPAM takes the 3-way patch, 3 from th

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
OK, so I don't think auto-learn works on spam. What about HAM? I've raised the floor to auto-learn HAM to 1. Before anyone gives me any grief, it's just for testing. I'll rebuild the bayes db from a corpus when I get it working. So SPAM takes the 3-way patch, 3 from th

RE: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Techlist
s not working. One thing for sure, it hasn't found a single spam or ham to auto-learn, yet. Which seems unlikely if it were functioning properly. The output of "unavailable" is too ambiguous for me to devise a way to troubleshoot. But I'm not an expert with SA. Thus the

RE: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread techlist06
s not working. One thing for sure, it hasn't found a single spam or ham to auto-learn, yet. Which seems unlikely if it were functioning properly. The output of "unavailable" is too ambiguous for me to devise a way to troubleshoot. But I'm not an expert with SA. Thus the

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
If any particular message has a * 3.5 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 99 to 100% * [score: 1.] Is it safe to assume that spam or one close to it has been learned and so it would not be a candidate for auto-learn? Maybe I'm not being patient enough. -- View

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
assin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto-learn-not-happening-tp138065p138254.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
Here is a debug log for one that just flowed. I don't see anything about why auto-learn was unavailable. But it shows it's talking to the db anyway I think. Is there a way to set auto_learn_force to yes? The log format makes one thing it's a global setting but all I can find

RE: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
Here's a verbose log of amavis/spamassassin processing another high score that just came through. I don't see a peep about auto-learn. But it was unavailable too. (posting via nabble, apologies if it wraps) Aug 10 11:03:39 mail2 amavis[377]: (00377-01) LMTP :10024 /var/spool/a

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Scott
ug 3 13:02 .. -rwxrwxrwx 1 amavis amavis 86016 Aug 9 09:51 bayes_seen -rwxrwxrwx 1 amavis amavis 5246976 Aug 9 13:49 bayes_toks -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto-learn-not-happening-tp138065p138251.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Us

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread David Jones
rectly. - re no, or careful auto-training. I get it. I'm migrating from a server that's run for years with auto-learn on set at conservative learn values. Never had any trouble with it thank goodness. As I look at the messages that would be autolearned, I've never found one that

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.08.17 10:06, techlist06 wrote: Update: Still NOT working, but I'm giving it hell trying to figure out why :) - Matus: re:" autolearn=unavailable apparently due to not accessible bayes database [due to permissions]". I hope you are right. That would make sense to me. See below please

RE: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-10 Thread techlist06
ing. I get it. I'm migrating from a server that's run for years with auto-learn on set at conservative learn values. Never had any trouble with it thank goodness. As I look at the messages that would be autolearned, I've never found one that would have learned that should not have in m

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-09 Thread David Jones
On 08/08/2017 08:02 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2017-08-08 15:20, Scott wrote: Another new one big score, auto-learn disabled. This one is fairly small. X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=29.428 tag=- tag2=5 kill=6.4 tests=[DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.076, DCC_CHECK=3.2, DIGEST_MULTIPLE=0.001

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-09 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 08.08.17 14:38, Scott wrote: Brand new spam arrives. It gets autolearn=unavailable. [...] su amavis -c 'sa-learn -D --spam --showdots --max-size=600 --mbox /home/mail/twospam' Aug 8 16:35:23.567 [18045] dbg: bayes: learned '419769464db0fabb0f1220f9ae0cf12931ad7076@sa_generated', atim

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017, Ian Zimmerman wrote: I stopped autolearning and hacked up some scripts that put duplicate of each ham message into a folder which is then processed by sa-learn from a cronjob, with sufficient delay that I can review the contents and remove any false negatives; and similarly w

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-08 15:20, Scott wrote: > Another new one big score, auto-learn disabled. This one is fairly small. > > X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=29.428 tag=- tag2=5 kill=6.4 > tests=[DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.076, DCC_CHECK=3.2, > DIGEST_MULTIPLE=0.001, > FI

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Scott
Another new one big score, auto-learn disabled. This one is fairly small. X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=29.428 tag=- tag2=5 kill=6.4 tests=[DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.076, DCC_CHECK=3.2, DIGEST_MULTIPLE=0.001, FILL_THIS_FORM=0.001, FROM_MISSPACED=0.001, FROM_MISSP_SPF_FAIL=1

RE: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Scott Techlist
ed similar but were corrected. Maybe they changed it, dunno. My concern is that auto-learn is not functioning properly. I use Amavisd that calls spamassassin and has it's own issues. Trying to make sure my system is operating properly. It appears it is not to me. No hint should be necess

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Scott
I was getting my commands missed up, been looking at this too long. When I ran su amavis -c 'spamassassin -D 2>&1 -t onespam' That caused it to LEARN the spam. Database went from not there to one learned. Auto-learn apparently. That's what it should have done when it ar

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Scott
concrete enough for my to latch onto. I mean I get the gist of it, but no details on how to look at my tests and see if I have the requisite 3 parts needed. -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto-learn-not-happening-tp138065p138081.htm

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Scott
5:47:11.105 [17077] dbg: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Check=HASH(0x2e04e38) implements 'finish_tests', priority 0 Aug 8 15:47:11.116 [17077] dbg: netset: cache trusted_networks hits/attempts: 15/17, 88.2 % -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.10653

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Scott skrev den 2017-08-08 22:19: Does this one have the requisite 3-point match? I don't understand how to tell yet. spamassassin -D 2>&1 -t mail.msg | less should show why

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread RW
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:04:16 -0700 (MST) Scott wrote: > The "3 points" criteria does not apply to manually learning No it's just a sanity check to reduce mistraining. If you can, don't use autotraining at all.

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Scott
Will let it run to see if it learns *anything*. So far I have not seen that happen. Surely something will get a 3 way match. -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto-learn-not-happening-tp138065p138075.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Scott skrev den 2017-08-08 22:06: Better, what test flags in general disable auto-learn? tflags foo-rule-name noautolearn and you can force autolearn based on rulename https://lists.gt.net/spamassassin/users/184996 there is a long thread there that explain it more and all condition must

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Scott skrev den 2017-08-08 22:04: The "3 points" criteria does not apply to manually learning via sa-update then? typo ?. sa-update does not learn, it just update rules, you meant sa-learn ? when sa-learn is used, its not autolearn, so the limits are not appled

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Scott
> some of the listed tags have tflags that disable autolearn < there is nothing to fix here Benny: Will you elaborate for me please? So I can understand and self-help. Better, what test flags in general disable auto-learn? -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Scott
The "3 points" criteria does not apply to manually learning via sa-update then? -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto-learn-not-happening-tp138065p138071.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread RW
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:06:26 -0500 Scott Techlist wrote: > Centos7 > Postfix 3.2.2 > Amavisd-new 2.11.0 > Spamassassin 3.4.0 > Site-wide configuration > > This is a new box and I've configured some conservative values for > auto-learn. I've enabled it proper

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Scott Techlist skrev den 2017-08-08 20:06: X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Score: 17.374 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=17.374 tag=- tag2=5 kill=6.31 tests=[RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT=1.644, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL=1.284, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.558

Bayes auto-learn - not happening

2017-08-08 Thread Scott Techlist
Centos7 Postfix 3.2.2 Amavisd-new 2.11.0 Spamassassin 3.4.0 Site-wide configuration This is a new box and I've configured some conservative values for auto-learn. I've enabled it properly AFAIK, but I can't see any sign of it working. I have these set in local.cf use_bayes

Re: auto-learn? no: scored as spam but autolearn wanted ham

2015-11-06 Thread Bill Cole
Email * -0.0 NO_RELAYS Informational: message was not relayed via SMTP * -0.0 NO_RECEIVED Informational: message has no Received * headers ... Why auto-learn wants the mail as HAM? Because autolearning ignores rules with the noautolearn, userconf or learn tflags set (and uses

Re: why: auto-learn? no: scored as spam but autolearn wanted ham

2015-11-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
BODY: Generic Test for Unsolicited Bulk Email > > * -0.0 NO_RELAYS Informational: message was not relayed via SMTP > > * -0.0 NO_RECEIVED Informational: message has no Received > > * headers > > ... > > > > Why auto-learn wants the mail as HAM? &

Re: why: auto-learn? no: scored as spam but autolearn wanted ham

2015-11-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
: message has no Received * headers ... Why auto-learn wants the mail as HAM? where did you see this ?, GTUBE disables autolearn

Re: why: auto-learn? no: scored as spam but autolearn wanted ham

2015-11-05 Thread Kris Deugau
Matthias Apitz wrote: > This is with version 3.4.0 on FreeBSD 11-CURRENT. If I run with the > sample file: > > $ spamassassin -tD < Mail-SpamAssassin-3.4.0/sample-spam.txt > Why auto-learn wants the mail as HAM? > it says on STDERR: > ... > nov 5 15:47:54.521 [3

Re: why: auto-learn? no: scored as spam but autolearn wanted ham

2015-11-05 Thread John Wilcock
has no Received * headers ... Why auto-learn wants the mail as HAM? Because autolearning ignores rules with the noautolearn, userconf or learn tflags set (and uses the scores from scoreset 0 or 1). Without GTUBE, this message would have had a score below the default autolearn ham

Re: why: auto-learn? no: scored as spam but autolearn wanted ham

2015-11-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
nov 5 15:47:54.521 [3855] dbg: learn: auto-learn? no: scored as spam but > autolearn wanted ham > nov 5 15:47:54.521 [3855] dbg: check: is spam? score=999.998 required=3 > > > X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=1000.0 required=3.0 tests=GTUBE,NO_RECEIVED, > >

why: auto-learn? no: scored as spam but autolearn wanted ham

2015-11-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, This is with version 3.4.0 on FreeBSD 11-CURRENT. If I run with the sample file: $ spamassassin -tD < Mail-SpamAssassin-3.4.0/sample-spam.txt it says on STDERR: ... nov 5 15:47:54.521 [3855] dbg: learn: auto-learn: currently using scoreset 1 nov 5 15:47:54.521 [3855] dbg: learn: a

Re: why: auto-learn? no: scored as spam but autolearn wanted ham

2015-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
ays on STDERR: ... nov 5 15:47:54.521 [3855] dbg: learn: auto-learn: currently using scoreset 1 nov 5 15:47:54.521 [3855] dbg: learn: auto-learn: message score: 999.998, computed score for autolearn: 0 nov 5 15:47:54.521 [3855] dbg: learn: auto-learn? ham=0.1, spam=12, body-points=0, head-point

Re: auto-learn

2014-06-09 Thread Chris
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 05:13 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 21:40 -0500, Chris wrote: > > Since having to wipe my bayes db I've thought about going back to having > > 'auto-learn' setup for awhile. It's been so long since I did this I ha

Re: auto-learn

2014-06-09 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 21:40 -0500, Chris wrote: > Since having to wipe my bayes db I've thought about going back to having > 'auto-learn' setup for awhile. It's been so long since I did this I have > a fairly dumb question. Do I need the two below lines to be set an

auto-learn

2014-06-09 Thread Chris
Since having to wipe my bayes db I've thought about going back to having 'auto-learn' setup for awhile. It's been so long since I did this I have a fairly dumb question. Do I need the two below lines to be set and if so is this the correct setting? Anything here about a scor

Re: Auto Learn Spam

2010-04-28 Thread Bowie Bailey
Carlos Mennens wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: > >> Autolearn kicks in at certain scores. I believe the default is 12.0 for >> spam and 0.1 for ham. You can customize those settings in your local.cf >> file. >> >> bayes_auto_learn 1 >> bayes_auto_learn_thresho

Re: Auto Learn Spam

2010-04-28 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 12:38 -0400, Carlos Mennens wrote: > I checked /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf just now and found only the > following: > > required_hits 5 > report_safe 0 > rewrite_header Subject [SPAM] > > However I don't know if Amavisd-new is looking at local.cf because I > show para

Re: Auto Learn Spam

2010-04-28 Thread Carlos Mennens
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: > Autolearn kicks in at certain scores.  I believe the default is 12.0 for > spam and 0.1 for ham.  You can customize those settings in your local.cf > file. > > bayes_auto_learn 1 > bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -3.0 > bayes_auto_learn_

Re: Auto Learn Spam

2010-04-28 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 11:53 -0400, Carlos Mennens wrote: > I noticed when reviewing headers today that there was a section for > 'autolearn=no' and was wondering what exactly does this mean and > wouldn't autolearn be a good thing? I use Amavisd-new which calls out > to SpamAssassin modules but I

Re: Auto Learn Spam

2010-04-28 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 4/28/10 11:53 AM, Carlos Mennens wrote: I noticed when reviewing headers today that there was a section for 'autolearn=no' its a SPAMASSASSIN thing. (google) it means the score was either not high enough for SA to learn as spam (bayes, and/or AWL) or was not low enough to learn as ham. y

Auto Learn Spam

2010-04-28 Thread Carlos Mennens
I noticed when reviewing headers today that there was a section for 'autolearn=no' and was wondering what exactly does this mean and wouldn't autolearn be a good thing? I use Amavisd-new which calls out to SpamAssassin modules but I don't have the spamd daemon running physically. The Amavisd-new da

Auto-Learn Thresholds (was: lottery message scored hammy by bayes)

2009-08-26 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
in spam, so would > a ham threshold of like -100 work, or present the same problem? 60_whitelist.cf: tflags USER_IN_WHITELIST userconf nice noautolearn Again, as per the docs [1], whitelisting will not be considered for the decision whether to auto-learn

Re: auto learn threshold

2009-07-21 Thread Dan Schaefer
Is there a certain rule that is ignored when determining the score SA uses for autolearn? Maybe this? perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AutoLearnThreshold " Note: SpamAssassin requires at least 3 points from the header, and 3 points from the body to auto-learn as

Re: auto learn threshold

2009-07-21 Thread Bowie Bailey
auto-learning occurs using scores from either scoreset 0 or 1, depending on what scoreset is used during message check. It is likely that the message check and auto-learn scores will be different. Note: SpamAssassin requires at least 3 points from the header, and 3 points fro

Re: auto learn threshold

2009-07-21 Thread Nuno Fernandes
autolearn=spam > > Thanks, > Dan Schaefer > Web Developer/Systems Analyst > Performance Administration Corp. Maybe this? perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AutoLearnThreshold " Note: SpamAssassin requires at least 3 points from the header, and 3 points fr

auto learn threshold

2009-07-21 Thread Dan Schaefer
Clip of /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf __ required_score 7 ifplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AutoLearnThreshold bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam 0.1 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 10.0 endif __ Some messages with a SA score of 10 or higher are auto-l

Re: Bayes Auto Learn

2007-05-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Daniel Aquino wrote: > Is spam assassin smart enough to not auto-learn (bayesian) spam if the > default tests "allready" detect it as spam... ? No, in fact, that's exactly what you DO NOT want to do. Bayes training is not applicable to just one message. Bits learned from on

Re: Bayes Auto Learn

2007-05-16 Thread Kelson
Daniel Aquino wrote: Is spam assassin smart enough to not auto-learn (bayesian) spam if the default tests "allready" detect it as spam... ? What I'm wondering is if the other tests have allready deamed it to be spam, then why would you want to increase the size of your bayesian

Re: Bayes Auto Learn

2007-05-16 Thread JamesDR
Daniel Aquino wrote: > Is spam assassin smart enough to not auto-learn (bayesian) spam if the > default tests "allready" detect it as spam... ? What I'm wondering is > if the other tests have allready deamed it to be spam, then why would > you want to increase t

Bayes Auto Learn

2007-05-16 Thread Daniel Aquino
Is spam assassin smart enough to not auto-learn (bayesian) spam if the default tests "allready" detect it as spam... ? What I'm wondering is if the other tests have allready deamed it to be spam, then why would you want to increase the size of your bayesian db... Bayesian I b

Re: [2] auto-learn learned_points

2007-03-06 Thread ram01
/c++ so this is some kind of cumulative sum of something. On one run of sa-learn in debug mode I got the following numbers back: [28135] dbg: learn: auto-learn: currently using scoreset 3, recomputing score based on scoreset 1 [28135] dbg: learn: auto-learn: message score: 10.955, computed scor

Re: auto-learn learned_points

2007-03-06 Thread Matt Kettler
ram01 wrote: > "auto-learn? no: scored as spam but learner indicated ham" > is given if if ($learned_points < $learner_said_ham_points)where > $learner_said_ham_points = -1.0 > > what exactly is learned_points > It is a recalculation of the message score,

auto-learn learned_points

2007-03-05 Thread ram01
"auto-learn? no: scored as spam but learner indicated ham" is given if if ($learned_points < $learner_said_ham_points)where $learner_said_ham_points = -1.0 what exactly is learned_points -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/auto-learn-learned_points-t

RE: local.cf auto learn configs and defaults?

2006-09-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
Email Lists wrote: > -> > -> You can clear the AWL for a sender like this: > -> > -> spamassassin --remove-addr-from-whitelist [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -> > -> ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is the sender) > -> > -> Make sure you do this as the user who is having the problem. > -> > -> > Thanks and kind regards

RE: local.cf auto learn configs and defaults?

2006-09-28 Thread Email Lists
-> -> You can clear the AWL for a sender like this: -> -> spamassassin --remove-addr-from-whitelist [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> -> ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is the sender) -> -> Make sure you do this as the user who is having the problem. -> -> > Thanks and kind regards -> -> If this doesn't help, post

RE: local.cf auto learn configs and defaults?

2006-09-28 Thread Bowie Bailey
Email Lists wrote: > > > > Its probably an AWL score, but without showing us a list of the > > tests hit on one of these emails all we can do is throw straws in > > the air and guess. > > Loren > > > > Ok, a box of straws will be on the way immediately... > > Any special colors? ;-> >

RE: local.cf auto learn configs and defaults?

2006-09-28 Thread Email Lists
-> -> Its probably an AWL score, but without showing us a list of the tests hit -> on -> one of these emails all we can do is throw straws in the air and guess. -> -> Loren -> Ok, a box of straws will be on the way immediately... Any special colors? ;-> I appreciate your time and th

Re: local.cf auto learn configs and defaults?

2006-09-28 Thread Loren Wilton
After awhile I removed all of it and restarted everything yet the test domain I did this with at first is still getting really high spam scores and is causing me a problem cause it is a secondary mail account live domain etc. Its probably an AWL score, but without showing us a list of the test

Re: local.cf auto learn configs and defaults?

2006-09-28 Thread Daniel T. Staal
On Thu, September 28, 2006 1:08 pm, Email Lists said: > # Use Bayesian classifier (default: 1) > # > # use_bayes 1 > > # Bayesian classifier auto-learning (default: 1) > # > # bayes_auto_learn 1 > > Please notice that they are commented out and have never been put in > service. Since those ar

RE: local.cf auto learn configs and defaults?

2006-09-28 Thread Email Lists
-> I placed with some rules some time back because I didn't like to see list -> emails from this one person with very poor judgement and taste in his -> signature lines decisions... -> -> Looked like this and I added them to my local.cf -> -> # ->header LOCAL_DEMONSTRATION_ALL ALL =~ /th

local.cf auto learn configs and defaults?

2006-09-28 Thread Email Lists
I placed with some rules some time back because I didn't like to see list emails from this one person with very poor judgement and taste in his signature lines decisions... Looked like this and I added them to my local.cf # header LOCAL_DEMONSTRATION_ALL ALL =~ /thatjerksdomsin\.com/i

Re: Bayeys: auto-learn vs. manual training

2006-04-25 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Sonntag, 23. April 2006 04:02 Gaute Lund wrote: > So, I was hoping to get a different opinion here. I use bayes per server, not per user or domain. I've set autolearn, with everything 8+ points as spam, below +1 as ham. bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 8.00 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspa

Bayeys: auto-learn vs. manual training

2006-04-22 Thread Gaute Lund
ds for doing so, hoping for any input from people with more precise knowledge regarding SA's bayes implementation. On our 60-some domains SA has, since 2006-03-01, caught 70 000 spam out of a total 150 000 messages. Now, say we were to use auto-learn. Only over this short time span, the bayes filte

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Nsubuga Ronald Tash
On Friday 13 January 2006 01:25, Loren Wilton wrote: > Going to 3.0.5 should be pretty painless. Going to 3.1 will be a bit more > of a bother. > Trust me going to 3.1.0 should so cool. :-) > Loren -- --- Ronnie Tash Everything can be achieved as long you can do what it t

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread jdow
ssassin" and "spamd" files floating around in various /usr/bin directories. (I'd look in /usr/local/bin, for example.) {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Robert Bartlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Matt Kettler'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Are there any "starter" ham/spam emails I can use? I thought I saw one, but > it wasn't for a MySQL database. Im using Bayes, site wide, in mysql. I hate > to feed it emails I think is ham or spam. Personally I violently detest "starter" bayes databases, and feel that in t

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
obert Bartlett Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes Robert Bartlett wrote: > Ok fixed the symbolic link error, I updated the spamd script with the > 3.0.5 one, but backed up the old one. Restored the old one and no > errors. It still shows 3.0.5 in the l

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (Please don't top-post, it ruins the formatting and flow of the thread!) Robert Bartlett wrote: > Are there any "starter" ham/spam emails I can use? I thought I saw one, but > it wasn't for a MySQL database. Im using Bayes, site wide, in mysql. I hate

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
y, January 12, 2006 3:30 PM To: Robert Bartlett Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes Robert Bartlett wrote: > Ok fixed the symbolic link error, I updated the spamd script with the > 3.0.5 one, but backed up the old one. Restored the old one and no > err

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Ok fixed the symbolic link error, I updated the spamd script with the 3.0.5 > one, but backed up the old one. Restored the old one and no errors. It still > shows 3.0.5 in the logs but not in the email headers. Any idea where to look > to see what Im pumping into spamc? I a

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Loren Wilton
Going to 3.0.5 should be pretty painless. Going to 3.1 will be a bit more of a bother. Loren

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Jan 12 15:01:35 milkyway spamd[17235]: Can't write to PID file: Too many > levels of symbolic links > > I look in the directory for the pid file and its highlighted red, so now the > link is not working? And it still shows as 3.0.1 in the header of emails. Did you mean t

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread jdow
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Robert Bartlett wrote: Hello, Thanks for the help. It seems to be painless, but in the headers it still shows 3.0.1, but when I startup SA in debug mode it says 3.0.5. I vagually remember a file I had to edit to show the proper version in the email heade

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
day, January 12, 2006 3:20 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes From: "Craig McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Robert Bartlett wrote: >> Since finding out the trusted_network i

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