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Wow, I didn't know we could make our own stackoverflow! Just read the http://area51.stackexchange.com/faq But yes, this would make a lot of effort, so it is just a nice dream. -Borut 2010/11/25 Paul Stanton > Andreas, > > Agreed 100%. > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/tapestry > or

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Maybe it' d be best if there were no live links to Confluence, but just the URL written as plain text? That would also help to keep spider traffic down. On Nov 27, 2010 12:03 PM, "Christophe Cordenier" < christophe.corden...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all > > It seems that the 'documentation' page has

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Hi all It seems that the 'documentation' page has links on confluence cwiki.apache.org. And when confluence is down (at the time I write this mail) firefox fails to load the page fully and quickly, this is a bit annoying... I will look into this, but you have some hints Christophe. 2010/11/27 J

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Katia, 'm a native spanish speaker and very interested in your idea. I would really like to give back something to the Tapestry Community. On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Katia Aresti wrote: > 2010/11/26 françois facon > >> Hi Katia, >> >> I would like to speak Spanish or English as well as yo

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2010/11/26 françois facon > Hi Katia, > > I would like to speak Spanish or English as well as you speak french. > Thank you François, but the french I write that you might read is corrected - a lot - for several people who review my articles (technically and in order to correct my french) befor

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Hi Katia, I would like to speak Spanish or English as well as you speak french. Perhaps you will get more technical feedback, if you write your documentation in English. 2010/11/26 Katia Aresti > Agreed, but there are quit a lot of things already published in english for > tapestry beginne

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Agreed, but there are quit a lot of things already published in english for tapestry beginners (existing tutorial, articles and so ). Personally I don't fell self confident enough to write a quality tutorial in english, and then translate it to spanish. I mean, sometimes is not a matter of the cont

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IMHO, a better approach would be to write and publish everything in English first, then translate to Spanish if there is enough interest. That way, whatever material is created can reach a larger audience, and in the end, will be of greater quality, as the translation can be done when the conte

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Javahispano and/or wherever it fits properly 2010/11/26 Katia Aresti > @Javier, > > Would you be interested on writing an article / tutorial / something in > binome with me and to publish it on JavaHispano ? > In Spanish :) > > Katia > > 2010/11/26 Javier Molina > > I just sent the ICLA by e-ma

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@Javier, Would you be interested on writing an article / tutorial / something in binome with me and to publish it on JavaHispano ? In Spanish :) Katia 2010/11/26 Javier Molina > I just sent the ICLA by e-mail a few minutes ago > > El 22/11/10 12:22, Ulrich Stärk escribió: > > Javier, >> >> yo

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I just sent the ICLA by e-mail a few minutes ago El 22/11/10 12:22, Ulrich Stärk escribió: Javier, you are cordially invited to help out by contributing your proposed changes: Please file an ICLA [1] with secret...@apache.org and I'll grant you write access to the wiki. The same holds for ever

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Borut beat me to it. If you use GMail to subscribe to the mailing list and create a filter to automatically tag messages and move them out of your inbox, then you practically end up with a personal forum system. It works beautifully for every Apache mailing list I subscribe to. GMail keeps it or

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I didn't mean to start an egg throwing contest with anyone, just thought it was a good idea to bring up for discussion. I appreciate all the comments and opinions, hopefully something comes of it even if it's just a few more people monitoring the SO list. I won't post again on the topic becau

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If you register on the user mailing list with your google mail account and create a filter on the mailbox, then you have the ultimate power of sorting threads and searching the knowledge. It can not get better. When I see a forum which has a search link which takes you to another page where you ar

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But registering with StackOverflow or a forum is OK or what? On 25.11.2010 10:19, Paul Stanton wrote: "I don't see why those questions can't be asked and answered on the mailing lists. " you are missing the point. they probably haven't been asked on the ml because the user doesn't want to reg

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"I don't see why those questions can't be asked and answered on the mailing lists. " you are missing the point. they probably haven't been asked on the ml because the user doesn't want to register/subscribe/manage the ml. some people have a general aversion to ml's. p. On 25/11/2010 7:07 PM

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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Andreas Andreou wrote: > So, anyway, Tapestry has the mailing list, its website/documentation and > there's > always StackOverflow. Perhaps it makes sense to define a strategy on how to > take > advantage of that last one though Completely agree. Cheers -- Ma

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Ulrich, of course you are entitled to your opinion. p. On 25/11/2010 6:47 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: That's just plain wrong. The form of communication (forum vs. mailing list) will have no impact at all on whether questions you ask are answered more or less conclusively. It's how you ask your q

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I'm sorry but I strongly disagree: I have never seen a support service as efficient as this mailing list. And for free. Il 25/11/2010 0.33, Paul Stanton ha scritto: > "They (forums) are to publish discussions on specific matters." > > Exactly! I'm often disappointed with the level of help offered

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I don't see why those questions can't be asked and answered on the mailing lists. If you want to ask or answer questions on stackoverflow, do it. If you want to create a forum that's fine too. But the only *official* help source will be the mailing lists. Everything else will just partition th

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That's just plain wrong. The form of communication (forum vs. mailing list) will have no impact at all on whether questions you ask are answered more or less conclusively. It's how you ask your question and what information you provide that influences the likelihood whether you'll get a satisfyi

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> "Feel free to create a Tapestry forum. Please post the link here." > > of course i don't have time to set up a server!! I'm too busy trying to work > out my own tapestry issues! Hehe... I'd guess that everyone else here is also busy doing things for which they get paid. Josh --

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:29:15 -0200, Paul Stanton wrote: Thiago, Hi, Paul! "Feel free to create a Tapestry forum. Please post the link here." of course i don't have time to set up a server!! I'm too busy trying to work out my own tapestry issues! I was thinking about using ready=to-us

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Andreas, Agreed 100%. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/tapestry or as a feed: http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag/tapestry Maybe the tapestry site can leverage stackoverflow as it's recommended question/answer forum? To work however, this would require some of the people here to take

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You're probably right on the reasons, but the thing is that it's a pain having to monitor multiple sources of user feedback - there's just never enought free time to do so. And there's also a few big risks: 1) Making the community appear to be unresponsive 2) Frustrating users who never get their

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Thiago, "This is what the FAQ page in the wiki is for. " i think it's highly unlikely that a new user is going to find and figure out how to post a question on a FAQ wiki page. that is only going to happen for 1 of 1000 newbie questions! "Feel free to create a Tapestry forum. Please post the

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:36:52 -0200, Paul Stanton wrote: 1. it was very spam prone: the way it was set up did not do enough to limit/kill spammers 2. it did not get the tapestry community support - it was not even acknowledged by the tapestry site that's not to say a forum wouldn't work if

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:33:17 -0200, Paul Stanton wrote: I think there's a great need for a simple, searchable question/answer 'area' whether it's a forum or something different, where new users can ask those 'dumb' questions (tapestry veterans may think their dumb) where there's a good l

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it did. it's still there but doesn't have the community. the reason it dies was twofold: 1. it was very spam prone: the way it was set up did not do enough to limit/kill spammers 2. it did not get the tapestry community support - it was not even acknowledged by the tapestry site that's not t

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"They (forums) are to publish discussions on specific matters." Exactly! I'm often disappointed with the level of help offered here, and maybe that's because the mailing list is too much a "community where people try to stay connected continuously" and not enough a question/answer type discuss

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Tapestry had a forum for awhile. I think it died. Robert On Nov 24, 2010, at 11/244:46 AM , Paul Stanton wrote: > i know most of you guys, who have been using ml for so long probably prefer > ml, that's not the point! > > i guarantee there's a number of users who don't want to configure their

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Stack Overflow must be a forum because it is a way to collect many professionals of various competences. But forums are not for community where people try to stay connected continuously. They are to publish discussions on specific matters. > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:46, Paul Stanton wrote: > >>

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I have to agree with you Paul Stanton. A forum instead of the users list would probably give tapestry a better reception from new users that do not like or do not know how to use a mailing list. The main problems with the mailing list (in my opinion) are that: *If a new user wants to know what is

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i know most of you guys, who have been using ml for so long probably prefer ml, that's not the point! i guarantee there's a number of users who don't want to configure their inbox for ml and give up. just a thought, if no one can see the benefit i guess it isn't going to happen! i use stac

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I prefer ml to forums and in nay case ML web archives allow to search them. I cannot see any other advantage of a forum over a ml. Il 24/11/2010 4.56, Paul Stanton ha scritto: > how about adding a forum? > > personally i prefer forums to mailing lists, and i believe a lot of > people don't partici

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No forum. Forums are a hell to administer and moderate. Apart from that, mailing lists are how Apache projects communicate. Use Nabble if you want to have the look and feel of a forum. Uli On 24.11.2010 04:56, Paul Stanton wrote: how about adding a forum? personally i prefer forums to mailing

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how about adding a forum? personally i prefer forums to mailing lists, and i believe a lot of people don't participate in this 'user-group' community and therefore don't get help and therefore don't like tapestry... if you want to attract more users i recommend this. p. On 20/11/2010 8:15 A

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You're right, i will add the links to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5 and https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5 in the About page. 2010/11/23 Borut Bolčina > I would, but there is no link to JIRA, at least I can no longer find it. > > -Borut > > 2010/11/23 Christophe Cordenier >

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I would, but there is no link to JIRA, at least I can no longer find it. -Borut 2010/11/23 Christophe Cordenier > Hi > > Once again all your comments are valuable, but a mailing list is too poor > to > keep track of those, please signup to add comments where needed and/or use > JIRA with docume

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Hi Once again all your comments are valuable, but a mailing list is too poor to keep track of those, please signup to add comments where needed and/or use JIRA with documentation task. 2010/11/23 Borut Bolčina > Hello, > > first congratulations on a new site! > > Today I needed some information

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Hello, first congratulations on a new site! Today I needed some information about how to test my services, so I visited the new site and started browsing. Couldn't find the answer. Can someone give me some pointers here? First I looked in the FAQ and serached for "test" withing the page with my

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Il 23/11/2010 11.53, Blower, Andy ha scritto: > 3) For long time developers it's useful to still have the older docs > available because we know those like the back of our hands and have a lot of > work to get done. Please don't make those disappear for a while. > +1 --

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Nice to see new and improved documentation. A couple of comments: 1) I find the green to initially be nice, but overused. When I am reading a documentation page the green titles and links don't contrast enough with the white page and it's *really* hard on the eyes. 2) No navigation, just a brea

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you're right - it probably only works in chrome! Anyway, will need to dig into confluence to see if there's a fix for this cause i think those inner links are auto-generated there... On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:40, Paul Stanton wrote: > Firefox 3.6.. > > the sections ie "General Questions" works f

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Firefox 3.6.. the sections ie "General Questions" works fine, but the subsections ie "How do I get started with Tapestry?" do not. p. On 23/11/2010 8:43 PM, Andreas Andreou wrote: That works fine here - what browser you used? On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:09, Paul Stanton wrote: The 'jump to

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That works fine here - what browser you used? On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:09, Paul Stanton wrote: > The 'jump to section' links in the FAQ don't work > > http://tapestry.apache.org/frequently-asked-questions.html > > eg > > How do > I get started with Tapestry? > > > I'm guessing it's because %25

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The 'jump to section' links in the FAQ don't work http://tapestry.apache.org/frequently-asked-questions.html eg href="#FrequentlyAskedQuestions-HowdoIgetstartedwithTapestry%253F">How do I get started with Tapestry? I'm guessing it's because %253F != %3F. p. On 20/11/2010 8:15 AM, Howard L

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Good points ! 2010/11/22 Javier Molina > I haven't explored the site thoroughly, but here are some comments: > > - in general, the new site looks prettier > > - it doesn't look good to have a "Tapestry 5.2.3 -- canceled" post on the > front page. It's scary and you have to read the rest to know

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thx - scrolling is fine now in IE On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 17:16, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > Andreas, > > if you commit the fix to > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/styles/style.css > the problem will be fixed immediately. > > Thanks, > > Uli > > Am 22.11.

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Andreas, if you commit the fix to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/styles/style.css the problem will be fixed immediately. Thanks, Uli Am 22.11.2010 16:07, schrieb Andreas Andreou: thx for pointing that out - i see similar problem in IE8 and ha

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thx for pointing that out - i see similar problem in IE8 and have tracked it down to a css rule that seems to mess up IE... should be fixed in a little while On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 16:37, Yunhua Sang wrote: > Congratulations for the new site, it looks a lot better. > > One problem, The new site

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On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:15:27 -0200, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: We're still working out the kinks ... and I've been working hard on revising the tutorial ... but at long last, we're debuting the new Tapestry Web Site: http://tapestry.apache.org/ This is absolutely awesome. The weakest part

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you should consider redirecting from http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/ to http://tapestry.apache.org/ with code 301 so that it becomes result #1 here: http://www.google.de/search?hl=en&q=tapestry+5 what do you think? Am 22.11.2010 um 15:37 schrieb Yunhua Sang: > Congratulations for the ne

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Congratulations for the new site, it looks a lot better. One problem, The new site does not work properly with IE7, which is the only one I can use in my company. Somehow I cannot scroll the page down, and "page down" key also doesn't work. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wro

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f the non-directly-related material and asides in separate boxes titled something like "Additional Information". c. -Original Message- From: Javier Molina [mailto:jav...@comunicamultimedia.com] Sent: 22 November 2010 09:37 To: users@tapestry.apache.org Subject: Re: Tapestry W

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I agree. Well thought out Javier. Regards, Greg On 22/11/2010, at 9:11 PM, Geoff Callender wrote: > Very good observations, all of them. > > On 22/11/2010, at 8:37 PM, Javier Molina wrote: > >> I haven't explored the site thoroughly, but here are some comments: >> >> - in general, the ne

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Javier, you are cordially invited to help out by contributing your proposed changes: Please file an ICLA [1] with secret...@apache.org and I'll grant you write access to the wiki. The same holds for everyone. Once your ICLA is on file you may start contributing to the documentation. Uli [

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Very good observations, all of them. On 22/11/2010, at 8:37 PM, Javier Molina wrote: > I haven't explored the site thoroughly, but here are some comments: > > - in general, the new site looks prettier > > - it doesn't look good to have a "Tapestry 5.2.3 -- canceled" post on the > front page. I

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I haven't explored the site thoroughly, but here are some comments: - in general, the new site looks prettier - it doesn't look good to have a "Tapestry 5.2.3 -- canceled" post on the front page. It's scary and you have to read the rest to know that it's just a release that didn't pass the vot

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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Igor Drobiazko wrote: > Great. Thanks to all who was involved. Yep! ... If anyone of you will come here to Italy I owe you a bottle of red wine! Amazing job. Cheers -- Massimo http://meridio.blogspot.com ---

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Good Job Howard, Another Link Tapestry Tutorial http://tapestry.apache.org/community-contributions.html http://lombok.demon.co.uk/tapestry5Demo/ Also it can help -- View this message in context: http://tapestry.1045711.n5.nabble.com/Tapestry-Web-Site-Updated-tp3273033p3274771.html Sent f

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You can print, sign http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf and send an electronic version to secret...@apache.org More explanations at http://www.apache.org/licenses/ Le 21 novembre 2010 19:27, françois facon a écrit : > Is there a page that explain how

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Is there a page that explain how to contribute? Where can we get the ICLA? etc... Is there a jira that can be used to report issue on documentation? François 2010/11/20 Kalle Korhonen > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > > For obvious reasons not everyone can change it. On

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Important, note that everyone can signup on confluence and post comments directly on pages. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action 2010/11/21 Christophe Cordenier > Right, I'll make it point to Getting started that should take less than 20 > minutes. > > 2010/11/21 Ivano Luberti >

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Right, I'll make it point to Getting started that should take less than 20 minutes. 2010/11/21 Ivano Luberti > First observation: the tutorial would take anyone much more than 20 > minutes. > I think that giving a wrong introductory information to people that meet > Tapestry for the first time i

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First observation: the tutorial would take anyone much more than 20 minutes. I think that giving a wrong introductory information to people that meet Tapestry for the first time it is not a good thing Il 19/11/2010 22.15, Howard Lewis Ship ha scritto: > We're still working out the kinks ... and I'

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Amazing news! Will spend the next week reading the new stuff :) On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Kevin Crenshaw wrote: > unsubscribe > > > On 11/20/10 7:57 AM, Juan E. Maya wrote: > >> Very nice ! Congratulations to the tapestry team and thank you for making >> java web development fun again! >>

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unsubscribe On 11/20/10 7:57 AM, Juan E. Maya wrote: Very nice ! Congratulations to the tapestry team and thank you for making java web development fun again! On 20 Nov 2010 10:51, "Joost Schouten (mailing lists)"< joost...@jsportal.com> wrote: Quick comment: the link to wooki on the homepage

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On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > For obvious reasons not everyone can change it. Only Tapestry committers and > people who signed an ICLA can. Right, but perhaps people should be encouraged to file the ICLAs... there's a difference between stating that and saying, for examp

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Nice work. But here's a howler of an error I think you'd like to fix in http://tapestry.apache.org/tutorial.html: "Tapestry began in January 2000, and now represents over seven years of experience" And may I suggest that this: "not just my experience, or that of the other Tape

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unsubscribe On 11/20/10 7:57 AM, Juan E. Maya wrote: Very nice ! Congratulations to the tapestry team and thank you for making java web development fun again! On 20 Nov 2010 10:51, "Joost Schouten (mailing lists)"< joost...@jsportal.com> wrote: Quick comment: the link to wooki on the homepag

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Very nice ! Congratulations to the tapestry team and thank you for making java web development fun again! On 20 Nov 2010 10:51, "Joost Schouten (mailing lists)" < joost...@jsportal.com> wrote: > Quick comment: the link to wooki on the homepage is broken. The URL > should be http://wookicentral.com/

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Quick comment: the link to wooki on the homepage is broken. The URL should be http://wookicentral.com/ right? Cheers, Joost On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > For obvious reasons not everyone can change it. Only Tapestry committers and > people who signed an ICLA can. > >

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For obvious reasons not everyone can change it. Only Tapestry committers and people who signed an ICLA can. Am 20.11.2010 um 04:37 schrieb Kalle Korhonen : > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:38 PM, nille hammer > wrote: >> Hi Howard, >> just a minor error. On the index page >> (http://tapestry.apache

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Congrats! A great improvement that puts a worthy face on a kick-ass framework ;-) Cheers, Joost On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Kalle Korhonen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:38 PM, nille hammer > wrote: >> Hi Howard, >> just a minor error. On the index page >> (http://tapestry.apache.org/

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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:38 PM, nille hammer wrote: > Hi Howard, > just a minor error. On the index page (http://tapestry.apache.org/index.html) > the paragraph "Tapestry is ... scalable" occurs twice with slightly different > content. (Or was that on purpose? :-)) ) Thanks for the great work,

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Hi Howard, just a minor error. On the index page (http://tapestry.apache.org/index.html) the paragraph "Tapestry is ... scalable" occurs twice with slightly different content. (Or was that on purpose? :-)) ) Thanks for the great work, nillehammer - original Nachricht Betreff: Tapest

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There's going to be a lot of little tweaks needed ... and the way we have this cobbled together, it can be a couple of hours from the change in Confluence to when it goes live on the tapestry.apache.org. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Katia Aresti wrote: > congratulations for the website work

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congratulations for the website work !!! I will give you my feedback Katia 2010/11/19 Igor Drobiazko > Great. Thanks to all who was involved. > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Howard Lewis Ship >wrote: > > > We're still working out the kinks ... and I've been working hard on > > revising

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Great. Thanks to all who was involved. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: > We're still working out the kinks ... and I've been working hard on > revising > the tutorial ... but at long last, we're debuting the new Tapestry Web > Site: > > http://tapestry.apache.org/ > > F