Wow, I didn't know we could make our own stackoverflow! Just read the
http://area51.stackexchange.com/faq
But yes, this would make a lot of effort, so it is just a nice dream.
-Borut
2010/11/25 Paul Stanton
> Andreas,
>
> Agreed 100%.
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/tapestry
> or
Maybe it' d be best if there were no live links to Confluence, but just the
URL written as plain text? That would also help to keep spider traffic down.
On Nov 27, 2010 12:03 PM, "Christophe Cordenier" <
christophe.corden...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> It seems that the 'documentation' page has
Hi all
It seems that the 'documentation' page has links on confluence
cwiki.apache.org. And when confluence is down (at the time I write this
mail) firefox fails to load the page fully and quickly, this is a bit
annoying...
I will look into this, but you have some hints
Christophe.
2010/11/27 J
Katia, 'm a native spanish speaker and very interested in your idea. I
would really like to give back something to the Tapestry Community.
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Katia Aresti wrote:
> 2010/11/26 françois facon
>
>> Hi Katia,
>>
>> I would like to speak Spanish or English as well as yo
2010/11/26 françois facon
> Hi Katia,
>
> I would like to speak Spanish or English as well as you speak french.
>
Thank you François, but the french I write that you might read is corrected
- a lot - for several people who review my articles (technically and in
order to correct my french) befor
Hi Katia,
I would like to speak Spanish or English as well as you speak french.
Perhaps you will get more technical feedback, if you write your
documentation in English.
2010/11/26 Katia Aresti
> Agreed, but there are quit a lot of things already published in english for
> tapestry beginne
Agreed, but there are quit a lot of things already published in english for
tapestry beginners (existing tutorial, articles and so ).
Personally I don't fell self confident enough to write a quality tutorial in
english, and then translate it to spanish. I mean, sometimes is not a matter
of the cont
IMHO, a better approach would be to write and publish everything in
English first, then translate to Spanish if there is enough interest.
That way, whatever material is created can reach a larger audience, and
in the end, will be of greater quality, as the translation can be done
when the conte
Javahispano and/or wherever it fits properly
2010/11/26 Katia Aresti
> @Javier,
>
> Would you be interested on writing an article / tutorial / something in
> binome with me and to publish it on JavaHispano ?
> In Spanish :)
>
> Katia
>
> 2010/11/26 Javier Molina
>
> I just sent the ICLA by e-ma
@Javier,
Would you be interested on writing an article / tutorial / something in
binome with me and to publish it on JavaHispano ?
In Spanish :)
Katia
2010/11/26 Javier Molina
> I just sent the ICLA by e-mail a few minutes ago
>
> El 22/11/10 12:22, Ulrich Stärk escribió:
>
> Javier,
>>
>> yo
I just sent the ICLA by e-mail a few minutes ago
El 22/11/10 12:22, Ulrich Stärk escribió:
Javier,
you are cordially invited to help out by contributing your proposed
changes: Please file an ICLA [1] with secret...@apache.org and I'll
grant you write access to the wiki.
The same holds for ever
Borut beat me to it. If you use GMail to subscribe to the mailing
list and create a filter to automatically tag messages and move them
out of your inbox, then you practically end up with a personal forum
system. It works beautifully for every Apache mailing list I
subscribe to. GMail keeps it or
I didn't mean to start an egg throwing contest with anyone, just thought
it was a good idea to bring up for discussion.
I appreciate all the comments and opinions, hopefully something comes of
it even if it's just a few more people monitoring the SO list.
I won't post again on the topic becau
If you register on the user mailing list with your google mail account and
create a filter on the mailbox, then you have the ultimate power of sorting
threads and searching the knowledge. It can not get better.
When I see a forum which has a search link which takes you to another page
where you ar
But registering with StackOverflow or a forum is OK or what?
On 25.11.2010 10:19, Paul Stanton wrote:
"I don't see why those questions can't be asked and answered on the mailing lists.
"
you are missing the point. they probably haven't been asked on the ml because
the user doesn't want
to reg
"I don't see why those questions can't be asked and answered on the
mailing lists. "
you are missing the point. they probably haven't been asked on the ml
because the user doesn't want to register/subscribe/manage the ml. some
people have a general aversion to ml's.
p.
On 25/11/2010 7:07 PM
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Andreas Andreou wrote:
> So, anyway, Tapestry has the mailing list, its website/documentation and
> there's
> always StackOverflow. Perhaps it makes sense to define a strategy on how to
> take
> advantage of that last one though
Completely agree.
Cheers
--
Ma
Ulrich,
of course you are entitled to your opinion.
p.
On 25/11/2010 6:47 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
That's just plain wrong. The form of communication (forum vs. mailing
list) will have no impact at all on whether questions you ask are
answered more or less conclusively. It's how you ask your q
I'm sorry but I strongly disagree: I have never seen a support service
as efficient as this mailing list.
And for free.
Il 25/11/2010 0.33, Paul Stanton ha scritto:
> "They (forums) are to publish discussions on specific matters."
>
> Exactly! I'm often disappointed with the level of help offered
I don't see why those questions can't be asked and answered on the mailing
lists.
If you want to ask or answer questions on stackoverflow, do it. If you want to create a forum that's
fine too. But the only *official* help source will be the mailing lists. Everything else will just
partition th
That's just plain wrong. The form of communication (forum vs. mailing list) will have no impact at
all on whether questions you ask are answered more or less conclusively. It's how you ask your
question and what information you provide that influences the likelihood whether you'll get a
satisfyi
> "Feel free to create a Tapestry forum. Please post the link here."
>
> of course i don't have time to set up a server!! I'm too busy trying to work
> out my own tapestry issues!
Hehe... I'd guess that everyone else here is also busy doing things
for which they get paid.
Josh
--
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:29:15 -0200, Paul Stanton
wrote:
Thiago,
Hi, Paul!
"Feel free to create a Tapestry forum. Please post the link here."
of course i don't have time to set up a server!! I'm too busy trying to
work out my own tapestry issues!
I was thinking about using ready=to-us
Andreas,
Agreed 100%.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/tapestry
or as a feed:
http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag/tapestry
Maybe the tapestry site can leverage stackoverflow as it's recommended
question/answer forum?
To work however, this would require some of the people here to take
You're probably right on the reasons, but the thing is that it's a pain having
to monitor multiple sources of user feedback - there's just never enought free
time to do so.
And there's also a few big risks:
1) Making the community appear to be unresponsive
2) Frustrating users who never get their
Thiago,
"This is what the FAQ page in the wiki is for. "
i think it's highly unlikely that a new user is going to find and figure
out how to post a question on a FAQ wiki page. that is only going to
happen for 1 of 1000 newbie questions!
"Feel free to create a Tapestry forum. Please post the
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:36:52 -0200, Paul Stanton
wrote:
1. it was very spam prone: the way it was set up did not do enough to
limit/kill spammers
2. it did not get the tapestry community support - it was not even
acknowledged by the tapestry site
that's not to say a forum wouldn't work if
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:33:17 -0200, Paul Stanton
wrote:
I think there's a great need for a simple, searchable question/answer
'area' whether it's a forum or something different, where new users can
ask those 'dumb' questions (tapestry veterans may think their dumb)
where there's a good l
it did. it's still there but doesn't have the community.
the reason it dies was twofold:
1. it was very spam prone: the way it was set up did not do enough to
limit/kill spammers
2. it did not get the tapestry community support - it was not even
acknowledged by the tapestry site
that's not t
"They (forums) are to publish discussions on specific matters."
Exactly! I'm often disappointed with the level of help offered here, and
maybe that's because the mailing list is too much a "community where
people try to stay connected continuously" and not enough a
question/answer type discuss
Tapestry had a forum for awhile. I think it died.
Robert
On Nov 24, 2010, at 11/244:46 AM , Paul Stanton wrote:
> i know most of you guys, who have been using ml for so long probably prefer
> ml, that's not the point!
>
> i guarantee there's a number of users who don't want to configure their
Stack Overflow must be a forum because it is a way to collect many
professionals of various competences. But forums are not for community
where people try to stay connected continuously.
They are to publish discussions on specific matters.
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:46, Paul Stanton wrote:
>
>>
I have to agree with you Paul Stanton.
A forum instead of the users list would probably give tapestry a better
reception from new users that do not like or do not know how to use a
mailing list.
The main problems with the mailing list (in my opinion) are that:
*If a new user wants to know what is
i know most of you guys, who have been using ml for so long probably
prefer ml, that's not the point!
i guarantee there's a number of users who don't want to configure their
inbox for ml and give up.
just a thought, if no one can see the benefit i guess it isn't going to
happen!
i use stac
I prefer ml to forums and in nay case ML web archives allow to search them.
I cannot see any other advantage of a forum over a ml.
Il 24/11/2010 4.56, Paul Stanton ha scritto:
> how about adding a forum?
>
> personally i prefer forums to mailing lists, and i believe a lot of
> people don't partici
No forum. Forums are a hell to administer and moderate. Apart from that, mailing lists are how
Apache projects communicate. Use Nabble if you want to have the look and feel of a forum.
Uli
On 24.11.2010 04:56, Paul Stanton wrote:
how about adding a forum?
personally i prefer forums to mailing
how about adding a forum?
personally i prefer forums to mailing lists, and i believe a lot of
people don't participate in this 'user-group' community and therefore
don't get help and therefore don't like tapestry...
if you want to attract more users i recommend this.
p.
On 20/11/2010 8:15 A
You're right, i will add the links to
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5 and
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5 in the About page.
2010/11/23 Borut Bolčina
> I would, but there is no link to JIRA, at least I can no longer find it.
>
> -Borut
>
> 2010/11/23 Christophe Cordenier
>
I would, but there is no link to JIRA, at least I can no longer find it.
-Borut
2010/11/23 Christophe Cordenier
> Hi
>
> Once again all your comments are valuable, but a mailing list is too poor
> to
> keep track of those, please signup to add comments where needed and/or use
> JIRA with docume
Hi
Once again all your comments are valuable, but a mailing list is too poor to
keep track of those, please signup to add comments where needed and/or use
JIRA with documentation task.
2010/11/23 Borut Bolčina
> Hello,
>
> first congratulations on a new site!
>
> Today I needed some information
Hello,
first congratulations on a new site!
Today I needed some information about how to test my services, so I visited
the new site and started browsing. Couldn't find the answer. Can someone
give me some pointers here?
First I looked in the FAQ and serached for "test" withing the page with my
Il 23/11/2010 11.53, Blower, Andy ha scritto:
> 3) For long time developers it's useful to still have the older docs
> available because we know those like the back of our hands and have a lot of
> work to get done. Please don't make those disappear for a while.
>
+1
--
isappear for a while.
> -Original Message-
> From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:hls...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 19 November 2010 21:15
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Tapestry Web Site Updated
>
> We're still working out the kinks ... and I've been working hard on
> revising
&
you're right - it probably only works in chrome! Anyway, will
need to dig into confluence to see if there's a fix for this cause
i think those inner links are auto-generated there...
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:40, Paul Stanton wrote:
> Firefox 3.6..
>
> the sections ie "General Questions" works f
Firefox 3.6..
the sections ie "General Questions" works fine, but the subsections ie
"How do I get started with Tapestry?" do not.
p.
On 23/11/2010 8:43 PM, Andreas Andreou wrote:
That works fine here - what browser you used?
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:09, Paul Stanton wrote:
The 'jump to
That works fine here - what browser you used?
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:09, Paul Stanton wrote:
> The 'jump to section' links in the FAQ don't work
>
> http://tapestry.apache.org/frequently-asked-questions.html
>
> eg
>
> How do
> I get started with Tapestry?
>
>
> I'm guessing it's because %25
The 'jump to section' links in the FAQ don't work
http://tapestry.apache.org/frequently-asked-questions.html
eg
href="#FrequentlyAskedQuestions-HowdoIgetstartedwithTapestry%253F">How
do I get started with Tapestry?
I'm guessing it's because %253F != %3F.
p.
On 20/11/2010 8:15 AM, Howard L
Good points !
2010/11/22 Javier Molina
> I haven't explored the site thoroughly, but here are some comments:
>
> - in general, the new site looks prettier
>
> - it doesn't look good to have a "Tapestry 5.2.3 -- canceled" post on the
> front page. It's scary and you have to read the rest to know
thx - scrolling is fine now in IE
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 17:16, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> Andreas,
>
> if you commit the fix to
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/styles/style.css
> the problem will be fixed immediately.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Uli
>
> Am 22.11.
Andreas,
if you commit the fix to
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/styles/style.css
the problem will be fixed immediately.
Thanks,
Uli
Am 22.11.2010 16:07, schrieb Andreas Andreou:
thx for pointing that out - i see similar problem in IE8 and ha
thx for pointing that out - i see similar problem in IE8 and have
tracked it down to
a css rule that seems to mess up IE... should be fixed in a little while
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 16:37, Yunhua Sang wrote:
> Congratulations for the new site, it looks a lot better.
>
> One problem, The new site
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:15:27 -0200, Howard Lewis Ship
wrote:
We're still working out the kinks ... and I've been working hard on
revising the tutorial ... but at long last, we're debuting the new
Tapestry Web Site:
http://tapestry.apache.org/
This is absolutely awesome. The weakest part
you should consider redirecting from
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/
to
http://tapestry.apache.org/
with code 301 so that it becomes result #1 here:
http://www.google.de/search?hl=en&q=tapestry+5
what do you think?
Am 22.11.2010 um 15:37 schrieb Yunhua Sang:
> Congratulations for the ne
Congratulations for the new site, it looks a lot better.
One problem, The new site does not work properly with IE7, which is the only
one I can use in my company. Somehow I cannot scroll the page down, and
"page down" key also doesn't work.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wro
f the non-directly-related material and
asides in separate boxes titled something like "Additional Information".
c.
-Original Message-
From: Javier Molina [mailto:jav...@comunicamultimedia.com]
Sent: 22 November 2010 09:37
To: users@tapestry.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tapestry W
I agree. Well thought out Javier.
Regards,
Greg
On 22/11/2010, at 9:11 PM, Geoff Callender
wrote:
> Very good observations, all of them.
>
> On 22/11/2010, at 8:37 PM, Javier Molina wrote:
>
>> I haven't explored the site thoroughly, but here are some comments:
>>
>> - in general, the ne
Javier,
you are cordially invited to help out by contributing your proposed
changes: Please file an ICLA [1] with secret...@apache.org and I'll
grant you write access to the wiki.
The same holds for everyone. Once your ICLA is on file you may start
contributing to the documentation.
Uli
[
Very good observations, all of them.
On 22/11/2010, at 8:37 PM, Javier Molina wrote:
> I haven't explored the site thoroughly, but here are some comments:
>
> - in general, the new site looks prettier
>
> - it doesn't look good to have a "Tapestry 5.2.3 -- canceled" post on the
> front page. I
I haven't explored the site thoroughly, but here are some comments:
- in general, the new site looks prettier
- it doesn't look good to have a "Tapestry 5.2.3 -- canceled" post on
the front page. It's scary and you have to read the rest to know that
it's just a release that didn't pass the vot
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Igor Drobiazko
wrote:
> Great. Thanks to all who was involved.
Yep! ... If anyone of you will come here to Italy I owe you a bottle
of red wine! Amazing job.
Cheers
--
Massimo
http://meridio.blogspot.com
---
Good Job Howard,
Another Link Tapestry Tutorial
http://tapestry.apache.org/community-contributions.html
http://lombok.demon.co.uk/tapestry5Demo/
Also it can help
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Sent
t;>
> > >> Removed the first occurrence since its content was included in the
> > >> second entry and I think the order makes more sense this way. Great
> > >> job Howard & the gang, wish I had more time to contribute.
> > >>
> > >> Kalle
>
> purpose? :-)) ) Thanks for the great work, nillehammer
> >>
> >> It's a wiki, *you* can fix it.
> >>
> >> Removed the first occurrence since its content was included in the
> >> second entry and I think the order makes more sense this way. Great
&g
Important, note that everyone can signup on confluence and post comments
directly on pages.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
2010/11/21 Christophe Cordenier
> Right, I'll make it point to Getting started that should take less than 20
> minutes.
>
> 2010/11/21 Ivano Luberti
>
Right, I'll make it point to Getting started that should take less than 20
minutes.
2010/11/21 Ivano Luberti
> First observation: the tutorial would take anyone much more than 20
> minutes.
> I think that giving a wrong introductory information to people that meet
> Tapestry for the first time i
First observation: the tutorial would take anyone much more than 20 minutes.
I think that giving a wrong introductory information to people that meet
Tapestry for the first time it is not a good thing
Il 19/11/2010 22.15, Howard Lewis Ship ha scritto:
> We're still working out the kinks ... and I'
r
>>
>>> It's a wiki, *you* can fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Removed the first occurrence since its content was included in the
>>>>> second entry and I think the order makes more sense this way. Great
>>>>> job Howard&a
he great work, nillehammer
It's a wiki, *you* can fix it.
Removed the first occurrence since its content was included in the
second entry and I think the order makes more sense this way. Great
job Howard& the gang, wish I had more time to contribute.
Kalle
- original Nachricht -
oward & the gang, wish I had more time to contribute.
>>
>> Kalle
>>
>>
>>> - original Nachricht
>>>
>>> Betreff: Tapestry Web Site Updated
>>> Gesendet: Fr, 19. Nov 2010
>>> Von: Howard Lewis Ship
>&g
k, nillehammer
>>>>
>>>> It's a wiki, *you* can fix it.
>>>>
>>>> Removed the first occurrence since its content was included in the
>>>> second entry and I think the order makes more sense this way. Great
>>>> jo
he great work, nillehammer
It's a wiki, *you* can fix it.
Removed the first occurrence since its content was included in the
second entry and I think the order makes more sense this way. Great
job Howard& the gang, wish I had more time to contribute.
Kalle
- original Nachricht -
I think the order makes more sense this way. Great
>>> job Howard & the gang, wish I had more time to contribute.
>>>
>>> Kalle
>>>
>>>
>>>> - original Nachricht
>>>>
>>>> Betreff: Tapestry Web Site Updated
>>
the
>> second entry and I think the order makes more sense this way. Great
>> job Howard & the gang, wish I had more time to contribute.
>>
>> Kalle
>>
>>
>>> - original Nachricht
>>>
>>> Betreff: Tapestry Web Site Updated
first occurrence since its content was included in the
> second entry and I think the order makes more sense this way. Great
> job Howard & the gang, wish I had more time to contribute.
>
> Kalle
>
>
>> - original Nachricht
>>
>> Betreff
occurrence since its content was included in the
> second entry and I think the order makes more sense this way. Great
> job Howard & the gang, wish I had more time to contribute.
>
> Kalle
>
>
>> - original Nachricht
>>
>> Betreff: Tapestry Web
iginal Nachricht ----
>
> Betreff: Tapestry Web Site Updated
> Gesendet: Fr, 19. Nov 2010
> Von: Howard Lewis Ship
>
>> We're still working out the kinks ... and I've been working hard on
>> revising
>> the tutorial ... but at long last, we're debut
-
Betreff: Tapestry Web Site Updated
Gesendet: Fr, 19. Nov 2010
Von: Howard Lewis Ship
> We're still working out the kinks ... and I've been working hard on
> revising
> the tutorial ... but at long last, we're debuting the new Tapestry Web
> Site:
>
> http://tapestry.ap
There's going to be a lot of little tweaks needed ... and the way we have
this cobbled together, it can be a couple of hours from the change in
Confluence to when it goes live on the tapestry.apache.org.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Katia Aresti wrote:
> congratulations for the website work
congratulations for the website work !!!
I will give you my feedback
Katia
2010/11/19 Igor Drobiazko
> Great. Thanks to all who was involved.
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Howard Lewis Ship >wrote:
>
> > We're still working out the kinks ... and I've been working hard on
> > revising
Great. Thanks to all who was involved.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> We're still working out the kinks ... and I've been working hard on
> revising
> the tutorial ... but at long last, we're debuting the new Tapestry Web
> Site:
>
> http://tapestry.apache.org/
>
> F
We're still working out the kinks ... and I've been working hard on revising
the tutorial ... but at long last, we're debuting the new Tapestry Web Site:
http://tapestry.apache.org/
Feedback is encouraged; just post to users@tapestry.apache.org with [SITE]
in the subject.
--
Howard M. Lewis Shi
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