Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-04-03 Thread Shankar Unni
David Grace wrote: Maybe the solution to the problems with bad posts can be solved by an email once a month that describes exactly what the accepted posting policy is. Ah, but that's not enough - see, that would require that you actually read the archives, and that's something that's apparen

RE: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-04-01 Thread David Grace
Message- From: David Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 1 April 2006 12:42 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad! Then you are most definitely one of the better posters to the list. I hope you don't take my message too personally.

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-31 Thread David Smith
Tomcat developers. Get mad at the idiot developers who >>> shipped a >>> war file without a) knowing how to perform logging and b) performing >>> basic >>> testing. >>> I help out when I can. If I'm not sure, but have a minute, *I* will >>>

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-31 Thread Dean Hiller
, and you will get snubbed. Tim -Original Message- From: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:39 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad! Please don't think it's the whole Tomcat community Dean, there

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-31 Thread Dean Hiller
e to post. Ask intelligent questions, and you will get intelligent answers. Show an unwillingness to learn anything, and you will get snubbed. Tim -Original Message- From: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:39 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: R

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-31 Thread David Smith
7;t have to post. Ask intelligent questions, and you will >get intelligent answers. Show an unwillingness to learn anything, and you >will get snubbed. > >Tim > >-----Original Message- >From: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:39

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-31 Thread Dean Hiller
my problem is solved. I was just trying to poke tomcat team in hopes that could put something in to help the next newb. later, I think I am jumping off the list nowjust too much email on this list, dean Markus Schönhaber wrote: Dean Hiller wrote: wow! you guys sound pretty harsh

RE: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-31 Thread Tim Lucia
ew he understands everything about Tomcat and therefore does not understand what usability is all about. All the best, AC. -Original Message- From: Dean Hiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2006 11:39 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-31 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Dean Hiller wrote: > wow! you guys sound pretty harsh when it comes to messages to help > users on simple mistakes then. I recently dropped in someone else's > example app war file that had the SAME PROBLEM.latest facelets. I > could not even give back information to help them debug the p

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-31 Thread Dean Hiller
guess from his privileged point of view he understands everything about Tomcat and therefore does not understand what usability is all about. All the best, AC. -Original Message- From: Dean Hiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2006 11:39 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: tomcat 5.0

RE: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-31 Thread Allistair Crossley
refore does not understand what usability is all about. All the best, AC. -Original Message- From: Dean Hiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2006 11:39 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad! wow! you guys sound pretty harsh when it comes

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-31 Thread Dean Hiller
wow! you guys sound pretty harsh when it comes to messages to help users on simple mistakes then. I recently dropped in someone else's example app war file that had the SAME PROBLEM.latest facelets. I could not even give back information to help them debug the problem. It was standard

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-30 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
Remy Maucherat wrote: On 3/30/06, Markus Schönhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The RuntimeException is to make it more noticeable in the logs. I mean 953 hits on googling is quite alot of people having trouble. Would be nice to cut that number down with an easy log statement that tomcat co

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-30 Thread Remy Maucherat
On 3/30/06, Markus Schönhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The RuntimeException is to make it more noticeable in the logs. I mean > > 953 hits on googling is quite alot of people having trouble. Would be > > nice to cut that number down with an easy log statement that tomcat > > could add!!! >

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-30 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Dean Hiller wrote: > yes, but please look at the solution I found in previous post which > works WITHOUT stripping down everything. I never doubted that there is a solution that doesn't require leaving almost everything out. The fact that the stripped down version behaves as desired simply prove

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-30 Thread Dean Hiller
yes, but please look at the solution I found in previous post which works WITHOUT stripping down everything. I think tomcat should fix this by reporting something like this log.log(Level.WARNING, "Application Errors will not be logged because webapp has log4j but no config file", new RuntimeE

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-30 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Dean Hiller wrote: > Okay, a zip file with one *.java file and one *.class file can be found > here... > > https://pro40.abac.com/deanhiller/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Downloads > > You can unzip it and copy the folder to tomcat/webapps and watch no > Exception get logged. Just the " Error listenerStart" me

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-30 Thread Dean Hiller
Okay, a zip file with one *.java file and one *.class file can be found here... https://pro40.abac.com/deanhiller/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Downloads You can unzip it and copy the folder to tomcat/webapps and watch no Exception get logged. Just the " Error listenerStart" message gets logged an no mor

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-30 Thread Dean Hiller
I am still getting no log there.my localhost is empty! Other logs get filled, I will trim all the fat off. Could it be that I am using myfaces? BUT myfaces doesn't sit between servletContextListener and tomcat, so I am really confused. Let me trim the fat(jsp files and such). All I am

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-30 Thread Dean Hiller
thankyou very much for taking the time to simulate that. I am going to try your code and compare it to mine and see why mine was not showing up there at all. thanks, dean Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote: ok, that was fairly easy, the error gets logged to the /logs/localhost.2006-03-29.log" thi

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-29 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
ok, that was fairly easy, the error gets logged to the /logs/localhost.2006-03-29.log" this is on the default install, no loggers modified so are you still having a problem? Mar 29, 2006 9:12:47 AM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log INFO: org.apache.webapp.balancer.BalancerFilter:

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-29 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
here is the code, the StandardContext.java logs the error, its just a matter of finding how to get it to spew it out. Running a tomcat embedded will spit this sucker out, but running it within the tomcat catalina.sh swallows it. I will resolve this and let you know what happens to it. Filip

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-29 Thread Dean Hiller
thanks for the link. I need that too. Regardless of logging thought, quickly add this to any serlvetlistener public void contextInitialized(ServletContextEvent evt) { throw new RuntimeException("asdfsf"); } Run it, and enjoy not being able to know what the heck went wrong with your app lik

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-28 Thread Vamsidhar
I am assuming you have been using logger to log stack traces in case of errors in tomcat 5.0. This was deprecated in 5.0 and completely removed in 5.5. So, If you have logger defined for engine, host, or context to record the stack traces in a file in your application this will not work on tomcat

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-28 Thread dean
On number 1 5.0 logs the entire stack trace, so you can jump to the line number. On 5.5, no such stack trace in any file. Also, I searched a few lists and many people had questions on what was wron when they saw that error. I think the cause is the lack of informationit should at the very l

Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-28 Thread Remy Maucherat
On 3/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone have much experience with running on these. On tomcat 5.5, I have > ran into many problems > 1. exception fron ServletContextListener.contextInitialized causes the > vague error of "Error listenerStart" with no details. Most people

tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad!

2006-03-28 Thread dean
Anyone have much experience with running on these. On tomcat 5.5, I have ran into many problems 1. exception fron ServletContextListener.contextInitialized causes the vague error of "Error listenerStart" with no details. Most people on lists I have seen don't even know it was caused by Exception