[videoblogging] Re: veoh

I think what attracts investors -- and I think wrongly -- is that it's a closed network. They transcode video that's walled into a P2P network. The number of views are now only visible on Veoh. I have a video on blip.tv that has over 100 views with over 300 views on Veoh. People can link in by

[videoblogging] Re: veoh

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Where does it say that? I've d/l'd my own stuff from there and it's bit for bit > identical. Have you looked at the binary bits.  They're not identical, they're transcoded to Flash.  Even if your original was in f

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

Are you sure they trans code? I thought they just take whatever you give them (mp4) and put it on the network. joly They transcode video that's walled into a P2P >network.  >  -- Enric --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pins

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

Where does it say that? I've d/l'd my own stuff from there and it's bit for bit identical. joly At 10:54 AM 4/20/2006, you wrote: >Are you sure they trans code? I thought they just take >whatever you give them (mp4) and put it on the network. > >joly > > They transcode video that's walled int

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

the only transcoding that was done and that was part of the issue were the video previews on veoh.com not the distributable originals via the p2p network.On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Where does it say that? I've d/l'd my own stuff from there and it's bit for bit identical

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the complete work.On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: the only transcoding that was done and that was part of the issue were the video previews on veoh.com not the distributable originals via the p2p network. O

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the complete work.point being?actually, in those cases that was better ;-)but i was explaining to joly where the transcoded videos were. sullOn 4/20/06, Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For many videobloggers the previ

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

exactly!!! Michael Verdi wrote: For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the complete work. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.   To unsubscribe f

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

I'm not talking about the flv previews Enric, but the actual P2P service. joly At 02:31 PM 4/20/2006, you wrote: >--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Where does it say that? I've d/l'd my own stuff from there and it's >bit for bit >> identical.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

Its not just that the work is a derivative, or that its a full clip rather than a "preview" -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used vloggers and their content to make it seem as though they had a growing and vibrant community, people who've signed up, agreed to terms of service, and were pa

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

it's still more about the attribution more than anything else   mefeedia "aquires" feeds too.  i dont have a problem with that.  do you?   the attribution issue has been addressed.  i am satisfied.  are you?   sull  On 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Its not just that th

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it's still more about the attribution more than anything else   mefeedia "aquires" feeds too.  i dont have a problem with that.  do you?I don't know if 'acquire' is the right word sull.  People can submit feeds to Mefeedia, much like

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

No, its not about attribution. Its about falsely portraying people as members of your community when they are not. Its about dishonesty and bad business practice. I do feel that Veoh took the right steps to solve the problem in a timely fashion, but I do not believe they had the right intention

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

Cmon. Lighten up. It was a just a mistake in the first place  :-0) http://snipurl.com/694s On Apr 20, 2006, at 7:39 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: > No, its not about attribution. > Its about falsely portraying people as members of your community when > they are not. Its about dishonesty and ba

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

right... basically every service allows submissions.some require you to register (fireant.tv), others dont.but some also suck in content automatically.i'm just making sure hypocrisy on that front gets wiped out. you cant stick it to veoh while other services do the same thing.and there is nothin

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

No, its not about attribution.oh no?  i do recall you thinking i was somewhat nuts to not participate in sucking in feeds from blip.tv as mefeedia chose to do.  now, maybe you didnt get to setting it up for fireant.tv, or maybe you decided i was right either way, make up your mind.  and yo

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

but I do not believe they had the right intentions inthe first place. tricky, it is... right?like the fireant promo videos which i am guessing are people who dont use or never heard of fireant and were picked off the street  of course, like you that is just a piece of speculation.  but

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

I don't think this is the issue. Mefeedia is a directory/aggregator - that links to videoblogs. FireAnt is an aggregator with a directory that links to videoblogs. This is way different than being a distribution system that appears as if they have all of these videobloggers that have chosen to h

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

it is not "way different".so, tell me like i'm a 5 year old, michael.  what is the issue...  because it seems to me that your 2 points infer attribution concerns and are also speculation, which gets us nowhere at this point.  look, i'm seeing this whole thing from a middle seat.  i've plainly s

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

So we have talked about similarities and differences that are apparent.Since I never implied one is exactly like the other, the similarities were only used to make a point... and the fact that we can also list several differences doesnt kill my point. We can speculate on anything and everything

Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

nothing personal.  just point-making and requests for direct answers for sake of clarity.i believe i have spoken from a balanced perspective.cheers,sullOn 4/21/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: off-list here, Sull...Sounds like you have some sort of personal beef here? I really don'

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh article

My content had been there for 4 months. Not a week or two. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Deirdre Straughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I recall it, the hoo-ha over Veoh's hijacking people's content > happened about a week before the announ

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh article

> However, I would be extremely surprised if it were true. It would take > a really stupid, impulsive VC to make an investment decision based on > the content present on the site over a brief period of time. They > would also have to have been completely out of touch with the world of > online

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh article

Would that be the RAD vlog, I wonder... Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was just going through a few links and stumbled across a Veoh > interview (from earlier this year) where they talk about editorial and

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh Playing Nice?

They just featured mine, a one day Spotlight on the front page. free plugs good They've been very responsive to me, generally lack the tools we need; but they're new channel pages are very nice, can't say much for the traffic though. http://www.veoh.com/channels/fluxviewusa Solidarity, ~FluxRos

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh Playing Nice?

Eh? Whats this thread got to do with bip.tv or discussion of everyday technical problems? I thought it was about Veoh, and the fact that halycon doesnt always put the stuff that he mentioned once, about being friendly with their CEO, in messages where he praises Veoh. It didnt really seem releve

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh Playing Nice?

Well, I'm definitely biased, but I can tell you firsthand as a videoblogger and a Veoh employee, this is a good company. They truly do have the publishers in mind whenever decisions are made. Please let me know if I can help in any way. Sunny Gault Viral Producer/Host Veoh Networks [EMAIL PROTECT

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** Simple message

How dare you have the gall to type that when you HAVE ALREADY stolen my content and you ignored my Copyright license. You have already ripped off videobloggers. Pathetic. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "dmitry_veoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > D

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Sounds like we need a "do not vlog list" like we have for our home telephones... Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Anne Walk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Josh. > > While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com, I've found tons > of vlogs li

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Have you had your videos removed out of there yet or are you claiming them and leaving them there? david http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds like we need a "do not vlog list" like we have for our home > telephones..

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

While I think that is a very good idea and appears to now be needed, do you honestly think that would have changed matters with the Veoh fiasco? David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wonder... maybe Andrea

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Damn you. Amuse me with some speculation! I'm stuck at work and it's sunny and 74 outside. That's like the middle of freakin summer here in Minnesota! David http;//www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I didnt offe

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

I completely agree with Andreas. Sure, it's a change but not a "derivative." Each time you compress a video it's "changed" but this is not what is meant by derivative. An example of a derivative would be a mashup. In fact in the license states that you allow the licensee to modifiy the work i

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh article

On 4/22/06, Jeff Marquis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are laws against libel, even on the Internet. In this day and age, with the likes of George W Bush, it's nice to see that there are a few people left who actually think the US legal system is going to protect us from corporate-backed

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh: Reinventing Television

Hey Nox... Let me check with engineering. We are currently moving our data center which may have thrown off our response time. We'll figure this out and I'll get back with you ASAP. Thanks for the post! Sunny --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Nox Dineen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh: Reinventing Television

Nox.. I spoke with our director of product development, I'm told you can edit your series and physically remove the RSS URL. That should do the trick. If this doesn't make sense or you have additional questions, please let me know. Thanks, Sunny --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny Gaul

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh and Skateboard.com

That is pretty cool. If you do...don't use that damn fish eye shot that skate video makers love. It looks terrible and is so overdone. I saw that Veoh skate channel and it has some Bam videos that I have never seen before. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "LeanBackVids.com" <[EMAIL PROTEC

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh and Skateboard.com

Without logging into YouTube, how can I get an RSS feed for a specific user? -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "BevSykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm still amazed that I've only found two (

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh and Skateboard.com

Wow, I just signed up for a YouTube account and still no user-based RSS. That is such a disservice to its users/visitors. It would be much better to allow users to have their own blog. Personally, I do not consider YouTube profile pages to be vlogs. A user would have to create a site and link t

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Yup, I claimed mine to my Veoh account. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I looked at the "watch" tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos > (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know > anything about

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Yeah this addresses the atribution issue, what about the commercial clauses? Is Veoh violating the non-commercial clause in peoples CC licenses? Is Veoh a commercial entity? It would see so. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PRO

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Yeah what I said ... ;) Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It isn't as simple as adding a link back. Most people use some version of > the non-commercial cc license. If that's the case they shouldn

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

I agree... why should I be forced to become a member and claim my feed by entering code into my RSS feed. I ALREADY have to do so much to make sure my RSS feed caters to iTunes... I personally prefer sites like MeFeedia who download the original .mov file to their service. When people change my

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Exactly what I mean... MeFeedia takes the producers into account by not stealing stats and providing a link back to the original post. Go MeFeedia! Casey http://www.kitkast.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For the record, Mefeedia only downloads the

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > The problem with that is that there is NO requirement for machines/software > to understand or obey the license. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. So OK, it's not the responsibili

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Hey guys, I just got off the phone with Dmitri Shapiro, the CEO of Veoh. I tracked him down (thanks to a few great people) to discuss this situation because it seems like much of the video Veoh has been collecting comes from blip.tv -- and a lot of our users have asked us to do something about it

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Dowdell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Stephanie Bryant wrote: > > Actually, they're outright infringing on my husband's videoblog. > > I empathize, and I appreciate that you wrote them directly, but how is > all this different from the way netculture ha

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

I'm sorry I missed that. As it happens, I don't think anyone subscribed them to it. They subscribed themselves. That's what they mean by "unclaimed RSS" - no one submitted it, they're just pulling in the videos and pretending they're their own. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup <

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Van Dijck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is an acceptable response from Veoh? I'm throwing this out for > comments here. > > Here's one I personally could live with: this kind of "re-hosting" > should be opt-in. > > That would mean that: > 1) The

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Actually, that's not true. An artists work becomes "copyright" from the instant it is created regardless whether or not you have actually gone and registered it. Regardless, everyone should be putting a © somewhere on their sites no matter what the case. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, that's not true. An artists work becomes "copyright" from > the instant it is created regardless whether or not you have actually > gone and registered it. Andreas was talking about monetary damages - I t

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

My bad. However you can register your work any time before filing a lawsuit. If you dont register your work within 3 months, then you can sue for... "(1) an injunction against further infringement; (2) the recovery of profits from the infringer; and (3) other provable damages." So, that said, you

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Lordy lordy. Here I was all high and mighty thinking they didnt have any of my videos and I just found one there. Guess what.. The video is less than 3 months old. I am within the limit to register the video. Guess who's heading down Monday to register this work? Guess who is going to be hit wit

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

This is exactly what I asked of Dmitry when I spoke with him on the phone yesterday. I told him that I felt his best move was to immediately remove all of this content and start from a clean, opt-in only slate. I also asked him to remove all blip video from Veoh. Apparently he misunderstood, bec

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

My videos from the blip.tv feed are still up on veoh -- and they don't appear to be associated to my blip.tv blog. Here's an example: http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e35579&feature=1&numResults=20&query=dabble http://tinyurl.com/s2wqk -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "mikehu

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

This is just unacceptable. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My videos from the blip.tv feed are still up on veoh -- and they don't > appear to be associated to my blip.tv blog. Here's an example: > > http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e35579&feature=1

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

I really hope they dont remove my videos. I've now found 3 there that I have never given my permission for them to show. I am going to be talking to a lawyer Monday and registering the 3 videos that I've found so far with the US Copyright Office. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In vi

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

Oh. I expected more web video companies to go bust more quickly than has actually been the case, so in some ways I am surprised it took this long for another well-known player to fail. Ive read at least one article that suggests the Universal Music lawsuit was the main factor that killed them (

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

By the way their website is still up as I write this, although when poking around I note they havnt put a new press-release on their site since December 2008. Did some brief trawling through the archives of this group circa 2005-2006 and saw one reason why I remember Veoh - Their founder was ac

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

One word: Karma. Anyone remember them scraping various video sites (*cough*blip*cough*) and claiming the videos/users as their own? That was just before they closed a big round of funding... -- Josh Paul twitter: joshpaul linkedin: joshpaul

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

That is true...but they did eventually take all those videos down. I have to say that Dmitri has always been really friendly and nice, across many interactions over many years, and today of all days I want to wish him and everyone who worked at Veoh well. I actually think about everyone in ou

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

There is a rich spectrum of problems in this area and I dont see any signs that any have improved since we first talked about these issues years ago. Problems such as: Creating compelling content Getting an audience large enough to monetize in any meaningful way Lack of promotion capabilities co

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

Do you think its safe to try discussing the creation aspect, now that there are presumably less people participating here, and there is no longer a danger of urinating on the newborn flames of vlog hope where everything seemed possible because that time has long passed? I'll pick one vital aspe

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Well, I didnt offer the thought as a "what if?" for Veoh... And I cannot speak for Veoh decisions.I could speculate... but their is enough of that going around already ;-)sull On 4/10/06, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: While I think that is a very good idea and appears to now be needed,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh: Reinventing Television

Thanks Sunny. I couldn't actually save the changes after deleting the RSS address, I got an error message about the feed being invalid (as a non-existent feed would be, I suppose). I just deleted the entire series. Nox On 12/5/06, Sunny Gault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nox.. > > I spoke wi

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh and Skateboard.com

> Without logging into YouTube, how can I get an RSS feed for a specific > user? i believe that YouTube specifically makes it impossible to aggregate their videos in nRSS feeds. you can only link back to the YouTube page. (this needs confirmation) Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Since the media's delivery method is a feed, would it be required to have the license information in the feed?On 4/7/06, Bill Streeter < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah this addresses the atribution issue, what about the commercial clauses? Is Veoh violating the non-commercial clause in people

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

For the record, Mefeedia only downloads the media to make thumbs.  The media permalink points to where ever it was when the feed was spidered.On 4/7/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree... why should I be forced to become a member and claim my feed by entering code into my R

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

As a suggestion, I reccomend that anyone using FeedBurner for their feeds take advantage of the FeedFlare feature to add a 'View CC license' to each post.  You can do it for every post iten on your site (by adding some code to your temaplte, or have it added to your feed (with no extra steps on

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

There is a huge and distinct line between "My user did X" and "We created a systematic way of doing X" -- I can live with the former, but I'm EXTRODINARILY unhappy about the latter. Charles Hope wrote: >--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Thanks, Mike. I'm sure we're all waiting to get this dealt with. mikehudack wrote: >Hey guys, > >I just got off the phone with Dmitri Shapiro, the CEO of Veoh. I >tracked him down (thanks to a few great people) to discuss this >situation because it seems like much of the video Veoh has been >col

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

I remember commenting here, months back, when I first signed up to VEOH, that someone seemed to have subdcribed them to bliptv's new videos feed nobody paid any attention.. >Hey guys, > >I just got off the phone with Dmitri Shapiro, the CEO of Veoh. I >tracked him down (thanks to a few great

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

I agree with this whole thread... I find the Veoh service very troubling and first noticed their "revamped" site around SXSW. They are basically seeding their community with other people's content to make it seem like an active place. They make it seem as though all these people (many vloggers) are

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Did you read what I wrote? Under US Copyright law you cannot sue for statutory damages unless you've registered your work. You can still sue for actual damages. I never claimed that you have to register your work to obtain copyrights (those are automatic for anyone living in a country that h

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

actually you are wrong and andreas is quite correct about this specifically the *statutory* damages part his point is that without registration, you don't get that so easy (or at all) David Howell wrote: Actually, that's not true. An artists work becomes "copyright" from the instant it i

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:23:24 +0200, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > actually you are wrong and andreas is quite correct about this > specifically the *statutory* damages part > his point is that without registration, you don't get that so easy (or > at all) US legislation is pretty st

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

Ok. We have asked to have our feeds removed from Veoh. Our new video was picked up this morning.I did notice, however, that they have stopped the ourmedia and blip feeds. Smart thinking as ripping off the content of other video hosting services will lead to major lawsuits (easily winnable ones a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

fyi, I've been in touch with Ted at Veoh (he contacted me) and has removed my feeds from thier network. It still shows up in searches, but anyone trying to see the media gets a message indicating that it is not available. I am not sure if this is becuase things have to be done manually, or that i

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

How hard is it to delete stuff? Comon!My videos are on there. I haven't claimed my feed and I'm not going to. I'm also not going to ask that they remove them because I shouldn't have to. I'm waiting for them to align their actions with their words. How long will it take?What really makes this bu

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

On 4/8/06, Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How hard is it to delete stuff? Comon! > My videos are on there. I haven't claimed my feed and I'm not going to. I'm > also not going to ask that they remove them because I shouldn't have to. I'm > waiting for them to align their actions with t

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

On Apr 8, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: > (and who's going to pay $20 to register each vlog entry?) I know that this applies for photos -- so it most likely also applies to video -- but you do have the option for "group registration" if you have several works that are all part of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

> Did some brief trawling through the archives of this group circa 2005-2006 > and saw one reason why I remember Veoh - Their founder >was active here when > they started, and the Halycon bloke with pink hair rather overpromoted them > on this group from time to time. Those were the days when y

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

> I have to say that Dmitri has always been really friendly and nice, across many interactions over many years, and today of all days I want to wish him and everyone who worked at Veoh well. > I actually think about everyone in our Web video world all those years ago as being somewhat of a pioneer.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

> As a viewer I remain pissed off that when I go looking for regular compelling > content I usually find magazine-format programs that dont float my boat for > reasons of my age, the pace of the show, or cultural incompatibilities (eg I > like Americans but where the hell are the British shows n

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

elbowsofdeath wrote: > There is a rich spectrum of problems in this area and I dont see any signs > that any have improved since we first talked about these issues years ago. I'm decloaking to roundly agree with you. I've been in discussions with several local TV broadcasters here in Chicago who

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

> I suppose one of the reasons Ive always liked non-commercial personal vlogs > is that many people can be entertaining in ways that are not > 'larger-than-life' that showbiz requires, that are just the same as the ways > normal people have entertained eachother on a close personal level since t

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

> Do you think its safe to try discussing the creation aspect, now that there > are presumably less people participating here, and there is no longer a > danger of urinating on the newborn flames of vlog hope where everything > seemed possible because that time has long >passed? My friend, Davi

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

i dont think their is much getting around the fact that making good money with web video 'shows' is extremely difficult and frustrating. in a sense, technology advancements have helped and hindered. accessible tech equates to enormous competition, redundancy and noise. imagine if rocketboom launche

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

I am enjoying reading all these comments - though my head is like a ping pong ball banging back and forth as I agree with virtually all of the statements! Most of all though I have had a lifelong irritation with virtually every industry I have worked in that values the stuff more than the people.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

You're awesome Rox. Thanks for persevering and doing what you love. You are a great example to point to when people start out in this medium, or any medium actually. Some people get into something like web video or blogging and make something for a couple months, then get frustrated when nobody is

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

It's not unlike TV, really. There are thousands of bad channels, a lot of shitty formats, and a small amount of shows of real quality. In terms of availability of IPTV, and the development of web TV, it's like TV was back in the mid 1940s. The money and infrastructure in TV allows the develo

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

Veoh is still up. For those of you who can't live without divx rips of Matthew Barney's cremaster series, you have a reprieve. B On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Rupert Howe wrote: > It's not unlike TV, really.  There are thousands of bad channels, a > lot of shitty formats, and a small amount o

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh has new Vlog system

Must be a bad link... when I clock on it, I get a message saying "Sorry! The vlog you requested is unavailable." Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "jsonofgod1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello all, > > As you know, I have been petitioning Veoh to create a Y

[videoblogging] Re: veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

First the Wired article and now this?? *eye twitch* Screw it...I quit. I'm going back to Internet Radio. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Anne Walk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.siliconbeat.com/entries/2006/04/18/controversial_video_

[videoblogging] Re: veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

Mistakes arent intentional. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Halcyon Lujah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >  Speaking of Dmitry, he was interviewed on CNBC: > http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e58555GeFRX7g8 > > -halcyon > > p.s. are the people

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

Anne, I undertand your frustration, but I assure you we are not doing this to inflate numbers. We are just trying to create a good service. I agree that this is serious business, but I think that our intent is in line with video bloggers; to help people communicate. Maybe these will help clear

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

*blink* *blink**blink*... *blink* *blink*... David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My videos are hosted on a porn server-- > > > Stephanie Bryant > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

I sent an email on my videos for Cirne and got the series ID to claim it. I replied that my other vlog, Tech Alley ( http://techalley.cirne.com/ ) , is also showing up on veoh and how to get the series id to claim it. A samples is this: http://www.veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e13718&feature=1&nu

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

Yes. I understand. Of course. *blink* I need to edit my videos earlier in the evening. My mind is playing games with me. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Er Um > > My husband sells adult DVDs

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

Porn bandwidth is a terrible thing to waste. Sowwy, couldn't resist. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Er Um > > My husband sells adult DVDs over the Internet. He's a very > above-the-board businessman, which is why we don't live in a

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