Hi Grant,
Thanks for the info, so I guess I'll have to select my email to start new
conversations when overseas as my number will be unavailable, however that
doesn't matter to my parents? They can still message and face time me even
if my Australian number is the only contact info in their phones?
Hi Andrew, yes, your parents should have no problem messaging you
using your Email address even if it is not in their contact list.
They'll still be able to see that a message or Facetime call is coming
from your Email address. What you might want to do is send them a
message first, that way they c
Chris and all,
thank you for your help regarding Facebook friends and push notifications.
I know it's been a week or so since it has been posted here, but I tried
it just today and it works perfect.
Is it possible to get push notifications from the websites you like as well?
Just wondering becau
Hi,
Doesn't pressing the home button cancel Siri?
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On May 12, 2013, at 1:19 AM, Beth G wrote:
> Hi,
> When I shake the phone to cancel Siri, nothing happens. I looked in settings
> to see if there was a s
Try double-tapping the refresh button next to the address field.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 12/05/2013, at 17:35, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
> Guys,
> I just realized that I can't update the contents of this list from the we
Hi list,
please does anyone know how it is with updating maps for Navigon?
Are maps updates free of charge or do you have to pay extra money for
maps updates once you have purchased Navigon?
I am just asking because someone told me, in Navigon extras there is
something like maps update and it c
Is it possible to try a book using the app
I wanted to try the app with voice over before spending money on books. On your
kindle device you can also download some free books. You can also preview the
book before buying it. Is the same possible using this app?
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On May 1
Hi,
I decided to see if Siri would do a calculation for me yesterday. We had just
filled the tank on our vehicle and I wanted to check the mileage we were
getting.
I brought up Siri and said calculate 381 divided by 12.5. When she came back
she told me the answer but also continued with much
I have the Vonage extensions app on the phone for international calling. Siri
did not route an
international call through that app but instead routed it through ATT. Is
there a way to instruct
Siri to route calls to that international number via the Vonage app?
Ray T. Mahorney
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Hi all,
Firstly, Tonight at Church I tried using the mantis bible study app. I
haven't used this app in a while but thought tonight I'd give it a go. When
I double tapped to open the app, it appeared to open, but when I next moved
around the screen I discovered I was still in my bible folder and no
You're quite clever to actually ask to "calculate" as this narrows down the
possibilities for Siri resulting in more accurate information. Now try using
the "convert" functions, and you will be equally amazed.
LS
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I'm not a power user of Blind Square. I do like that when I'm walking
or riding places, it tells me the intersections I'm coming up to.
Depending on how you have your settings, you can hear what businesses
are around you. And it's very easy to toggle those on and off.
I haven't run a search for
I started seeing it Friday and I first thought it was a network issue unique to
where I was at the
time. Seems I was in error.
Ray T. Mahorney
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Marissa
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 06
If you ask for a simple division result how did Siri know you were
speaking of miliage calculations?
That would be truly amazing.
At 07:51 AM 5/12/2013, you wrote:
You're quite clever to actually ask to "calculate" as this narrows
down the possibilities for Siri resulting in more accurate
info
Amazon basics keyboard with IPhone 5. Perhaps I missed something somewhere but
there has to be a
more efficient way to interact with email than using the left and right arrow
keys?
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Afaik you odn't need Forusquare to use Blindsquare.
On the other hand i'll prefer Foursquare when chekcing in venues.
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Maybe siri uses information about your current location, ie near a gas
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Considering some of the questions we see, I suppose that is true. The on/off
switch presents a challenge for some…
Eric
On May 11, 2013, at 10:03 PM, shdshawn wrote:
Yes but it would be a nightmare for the rest of us on the email list. Smile
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I went to Aldi yesterday. It was great to know some of the items that
would be on sale, thanks to the app they fixed and you shared.
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Hi all, I listen to a podcast about the looktel app, and I like it. So, I went
to the App Store and I always look at descriptions before I decide to get apps.
The description says that you need a sighted person to help you set up an
imaging library. Is that still true of this app? Or can you ge
I'm pretty sure the person was already familiar with variables in question
e.g. MpG for his/her vehicle, and Siri only provided the result of
computation.
LS
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From: "Ari Moisio"
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: funny and amazing Siri results
I just listened to the NLS podcast. I listen to the one that Darryl and Allison
did with Judy and it was really cool!
Sent from my iPhone
On May 12, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Eric wrote:
> Considering some of the questions we see, I suppose that is true. The on/off
> switch presents a challenge for s
The reason a sighted person is suggested is to help you build your "library"
of images. In other words, the sighted person helps you take the best
picture, which Looktel then uses to query the library whenever you need
something identified.
With furled eyebrows once again... I don't get it. Th
Hi all,
I was using vizwiz and taptapsee to find out the what flavour drink I had in
the fridge. I while I was able to determine the flavour using both these
apps, I thought I'd have a go at using text detective to read what the rest
of the label showed.
However, this proved difficult. What I do is
Probably not. Siri can open apps and make phone calls, but I've never seen
any information that would indicate that you can have Siri perform an action
through anything but Apple default apps. Like, you can ask Siri how to get
to San Jose, but it will only show you how through the Apple Maps app.
I am going to echo what others have said.
TextGrabber or Prizmo with the StandScan Pro will give you excellent
results.
Prizmo is coming out with an updated version around Tuesday of this week.
It is supposed to support multi-page scanning.
Here is a link to the StandScan Pro:
http://stands
suspected as much
Ray T. Mahorney
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Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 13:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: telling Siri how to route a call?
Probably not. Siri can
I was disappointed with this book. It is
directed to sighted parents, and didn't give me
as a blind person the information I wanted about
such things as screen layout and navigation.
Maybe I just want more explanation than the average bear.
At 01:33 AM 5/12/2013, you wrote:
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I gave this app a try yesterday. The stations I tried broke up quite a bit
which made it less than pleasant to listen. I then tried the same stations
with TuneIn and they played just fine.
The app is easy to use, and seems as accessible as any of the others, but if
the stations don't stream well
Andrew,
The only program I've had much luck with for this type of info is
Goggles. It does a pretty good job of reading labels on a round can
if you can hold your hand steady enough to track around the can.
Between TapTap Se, DigitEyes or Text Grabber and with the ade of
Goggles I usually manage
That is not what he said.
At 09:03 AM 5/12/2013, you wrote:
I'm pretty sure the person was already familiar with variables in
question e.g. MpG for his/her vehicle, and Siri only provided the
result of computation.
LS
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To:
Sent: Sunday, May 12
Hi Andrew,
You might want to give Talking Googles a try, this app sometimes comes up
with very good and amazing OCR results when you use it in video mode.
Tap Tap See is very good for some things, but I also found that for some
products it may tell you right away what it is, but not with enough
Let's hope that SIRI get's a lot smarter maybe in iOS 7 and that Apple at
some point allows developers access to SIRI.
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Hi,
Generally speaking, I find I get my best results using a baarcoode scanner. If
you have the sttanddscan pro, then rolling the bottle across the base of the
box will make it more easy to find the code for you.
Good luck,
Sandy.
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On 12 May 2013, at 15:43, Sieghard Weitz
Hi Ricardo,
Yes, but I think what Rose pointed out and what Beth asked refers to the
fact that if you dictate something and for some reason SIRI gets it all
wrong and it's easier to start over rather than correct with the keyboard,
one can shake the phone and SIRI will ask you if you want to undo
Hello,
Any books you buy in the Kindle bookstore will be available to the app so
just look for free books and :buy" them. After that open your Kindl app and
wait for a minute or 2 and they will download.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Hello,
There are many on this list who are using Looktel Recognizer with good results.
I use the app TapTapSee first to get a good idea of the distance and the
location of what I want for the Looktel Recognizer camera view. Once I get a
precise picture with TapTapSee, I take the picture with Lo
I agree with the comments below.
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On May 12, 2013, at 8:25 AM, "Richard Turner"
wrote:
> I gave this app a try yesterday. The stations I tried broke up quite a bit
> which made it less than pleasant to listen. I then tried the same stations
> with TuneIn and they played
Thanks for your reply. The OCR engine in TextGrabber and Prizmo is newer and
better than the OCR engine in KNFB Reader. When these apps are used in
conjunction with a product like the StandScan Pro, their abilities really shine
through.
Even the hardware is better with the iPhone 5 verses the N
Hi,
They don't stream well at all. I tried several using the different settings in
options and got the same results. I couldn't find one station with a good
clear stream.
I tried two different routers with the same results.
HTH -Steve
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No, Apple did not break this functionality. I have an iPhone 5 and it works as
it has previously. I am running iOS 6.14, the latest version. Then again, I am
in NZ, and our networks are usually not overloaded here.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
All that I have tried work great.
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From: Steve Sweeney
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: . Accessible App. Free. iRadio - All Radio
Hi,
They don't stream well at all. I tried several using the different settings
in options
Yes, you can download the first chapter free as a sample before you buy the
book. I have found that the app works very well. Of course, all I want to do
is listen to the book. I'm not interested in looking up words or anything like
that.
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Ok, I am replying to the tone of your question.
Sure, if you are willing to pay extremely high prices for the KNFB Reader
interface, and you can find a large enough number of other blind people who are
also willing to pay the high price, KNFB Reading Technologies will develop the
app for you. F
Hello Maria,
You get occasional map updates with no charge, but you can pay for a service
that I think is called FreshMaps that gives you much more frequent updates.
HTH,
Anna
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On May 12, 2013, at 4:58 AM, Mária Orovčíková
wrote:
> Hi list,
> please does anyone know how i
when you download the podcasts on downcast, is there a way to put them
on your dropbox folder?
if not, is there a program which you can recommend which will do this?
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Besides the obvious of,Bookshare not having a particular book, what other
advantages does the Kindle app have over using Bookshare to access books? I
will check Bookshare first to see if the book that I want to read is there to
download because of the ability to download the book f
His computations described what he did.
LS
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From: "Kevin Barry"
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: funny and amazing Siri results
That is not what he said.
At 09:03 AM 5/12/2013, you wrote:
I'm pretty sure the person was already familiar with
How can TapTapSee be used to help in determining location within frame of
camera and distance from object to be photographed? I guess I'm asking the
following... A sighted person can make sure all of one's garment is within
the frame of picture and as close to center as possible without being to
Hi,
I wouldn't think this would be an issue. If using a iPhone or iPod touch, more
than likely the person can operate the phone with one hand while the other is
maintaining the relative position of the device. Any slight movement should be
corrected by the auto focus. I can't see a reason wh
Hi Sieghard,
Oh! I see. I didn't realize we were talking about shake to undo text. Oddly,
when I use siri to dictate an e-mail, shake to undo did not work on my iPhone 5
either. I've never used shake to undo with Siri so, I can't say if this is a
bug or, standard behavior. Just to clarify,
You're introducing variables not present in initial question and reply. If
you believe more than one person is necessary then this is yet another
reason why one might as well go with a sighted person to do the job well,
but this doesn't answer my initial question. Frankly, there is no answer as
Well, you can highlight parts of books to share with people. You can also look
up stuff in a dictionary in the app, or so I hear. You can leave reviews on
Amazon without too much trouble.
Plus, it supports authors, and it shows Amazon that we are glad for what
they've done and that hopefully th
I appreciate your sharing that, Ann, so are you saying that as a blind
person it would not be a good teaching tool? Did you learn anything from the
book that you could not have gleaned from using the iPad yourself? I was
going to order it, but am glad for tthe input of others who may have alread
I find it difficult to endorse the NFB's high-priced applications when there
are several applications which can be found for much less money. Considering
they are an organization which preports to be working for the benefit of blind
people I think it incongruous for them to have started out char
The reason I asked about cited help, it's because I don't have decided people
around to just say hey can you help me? That is why I wanted to know if there
was a way around that.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 12, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "Lauren Simmons"
wrote:
> You're introducing variables not pres
Hi,
I beg to differ. You said "How are listers doing this since using TapTapSee
means you're probably holding the phone in your hand and replicating the same
position probably won't be easy to do when you now switch to the Looktel
recognizer app". . So, I believe that is a variable that you
One big advantage to the kindle app is the amazing number of books we, as
blind readers, now have the ability to access in one place. It was stated,
in a recent Tech Doctor podcast, that this number is 1.8 million (I have not
confirmed this.) Not all these books will be readable with this app
Yes, but I can't get it to convert from mp3 to m4a. I even looked to see if
there is a plugin for it and didn't find anything. So how can it be done?
Thanks.
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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: a switch question
Gold
Strange as I can do it with the latest Switch and I am using the free
version.
Chris
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On 12/05/2013 19:22, Kay Malmquist wrote:
Yes, b
Hi Sieghard
,
You are correct, Jabra has to do something! I'm currently using Plantronics
UC with no problem.
I wrote to Apple accessibility but got no reply.
The issue still persist even after the last update for iPhone 5.
With best regards,
Godwin
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ma
That is what I am doing, I find a book in another format, and read it. If I
like it, I'll try to buy it.
Jane
On May 12, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> One big advantage to the kindle app is the amazing number of books we, as
> blind readers, now have the ability to access in on
For the most part, any book you get on Kindle will be perfectly legible. There
is always the question with BookShare of how legible the scanned material will
be, and I frankly don't read BookShare books that have a "good" rating or
below. I have an uncanny knack for discovering a book in which t
Chris, Could you tell me what you are doing?I don't have the latest version
and can't find the free one so any help is appreciated.
Kay
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Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: a switch question
Strange as I can do it with the latest Swi
Also, don't forget tjat in addition to books, you get access to magazines and
newspapers, nd belive me, from what I hear, it's better than NFB. I think
NFBNewsline only gets access to the free content on the web, but if you
subscribe to a Kindle magazine, you can get the whole thing, nothing lef
Hi Ricardo,
>From what David from New /Zealand said the shake to undo feature works fine
on his iPhone 5 with iOS 6.1.4 so I assume that maybe you don't shake the
phone hard enough if it doesn't work. Also, I am talking about using this
when I use SIRI dictation via the Dictate button to the left
I look at bookshare to see if something is available there prior to looking on
things like the iBooks store, Nook and now Kindle. I see this as little
different than a sighted person using the public library rather than buying the
book. I agree about scans, but a lot of the bookshare collection
I disliked downloading cookbooks from BookShare because I always wondered about
the accuracy of the scan with numbers - 6 looking like 8 and so on. I do not
plan on downloading novels from Kindle unless I really, really need to read
something and cannot get it elsewhere. Wouldn't like reading it
My experience thus far with Kindle magazines is excellent. I have used Zinio on
the iPhone and also the Nook app on my iPad, and so far, I'd say the Kindle app
is my favorite for magazine reading, with Nook second. The major difference is
that with the Nook app, you have to go back to the table
Ah!
Ok. Yes. I thought you were referring to Siri when activated with the home
button.
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On May 12, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Ricardo,
>
> From what David from New /Zealand said the
I have it running now, listening to an instrumental Christian station and it
is working just fine.
Thanks for letting us know about this app.
Patti
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What you can do with Digit Eyes is print your own labels, so even if the
products you are scanning do not have bar codes per say, you will be able to
scan your home printed QR Code labels and then use these in place.
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Hi David,
I of course agree with most of what you said. However, to be fair to Sendero,
the announcement at CSUN said that it will probably cost $100 for one to three
years, they had not settled on exactly how the pricing structure would work.
If it would be for three years, then you are in the
What do you mean? What are you trying to do? When in the list of emails,
I use the left and right arrow keys, with quick navigation on, to
simulate flicking left and right. Once I'm in an email, I usually read
it with VO=a or VO+b. To be honest, I usually reach for the touch screen
to find the
Might I propose an additional tach here?
Now that we have a much greater accessibility to a vast library of books which
we never had before, might it be a good idea to take one more step toward
equality by purchasing books and only using BookShare as a last resort when we
cannot find a book we
I think there's only one download for Switch. Here's the direct link to
the Windows version http://www.nch.com.au/components/switchsetup.exe If
you don't register, I think it just reverts back to the free version.
According to http://www.nch.com.au/switch/kb/1405.html, M4A is supported
on both
Hi, Cara.
As someone else pointed out, Bookshare is kind of like a library. Well,
admittedly, you can keep the books from Bookshare. But now that I am able to, I
view it as a way to check out a book and read it, then find it if I like it and
purchase. It's what my Mom did with print books. Stil
I agree, but a tough sell in the blind community who are used to getting
things for free. I have a blind friend who recently said that she just
doesn't pay for books, and can't understand why any blind person would.
Andy
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Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013
In case anyone was wondering; -apologies for the typo! Tack not tach. Oops! Lol!
Smiles,
Cara :)
On May 12, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Might I propose an additional tach here?
Now that we have a much greater accessibility to a vast library of books which
we never had before, might it
essentially you nailed what I mean. Does quick nav default to on or off?
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA
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Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 21:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject:
A few years ago, before iBooks came along, Andy, I'd have agreed. And we still
have those options, mainly BARD where you can get .brf files and audio
recordings. Also Bookshare, Learning Ally, and stuff like that. Now, though,
while I'll still read stuff for free, I'll try to purchase a paid ver
Why would you want to buy a book after you already read it?
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Jane
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
Hi, Cara.
As someone else pointed out, Bookshare
Each of us wants something different from a book, of course. this
one, directed toward teachers and parents, gives good instruction for
using the iPad with Braille and qwerty keyboards, stressing that
students will need additional devices if they want to use the iPad
for tasks like writing ter
Cara,
Would you suggest that sighted people forego the use of the public library or
other sources, such as a university library, if you happen to be lucky enough
to have access to one, and buy all their books? Equality is great, but equality
ought also to mean being able to avail oneself of all
I think you ought to consider letting the author know of your concerns.
Fred Olver
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Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-announce] Do not miss this: Make the iPad accessible for
theclassroom!
Each of us wants something diff
This is so true! Why should we expect developers to make apps accissable if it
won't make them any money? It's only right that we take advantage of this
accessibility. Buying a book will not do any harm!
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Let me start by saying I know this is going to be subjective and that in the
past I have been a bit
underwhelmed by the performance of bluetooth ear pieces I have used previously.
That said, I need
to get one for the phone as I need to be able to check the clock unobtrusively.
Which ones do yo
Hi Jane,
Really, purchasing makes us look better? Does it also make sighted people look
better? I have plenty of sighted friends who use the local library quite
heavily. Yes, they buy some books, but almost never novels, which they read
once and don't need to keep as reference material or to re
Hi Richard,
Actually, they are not on the same pricing structure. I use motion X GPS Drive
and it cost $10 per year. So even if they go at hundred dollars for three
years, that is pricier.d
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On May 12, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Hi David,
> I of course agre
Hi Ted,
Yes, you can send a Podcast from Downcast to Dropbox. Here is what you do:
1. The Podcast has to be downloaded to your iOS device.
2. Double tap on the More button next to the Podcast.
3. On the page that opens, look for the Export button at the bottom left of
the screen and double tap it
Cara:
I just wanted to chime in and agree with Mary. Sighted people use
books from the library, they also borrow books they can read on their
Kindle. Bookshare in a sense is the same thing. Many of their books
are provided by the publishers as well.
If I can download a book from bookshare I will us
So, if Sendero goes with $100 every three years, that will be triple the cost
of the general market equivalent (considering that they will be using an
internet-based maps model). This would be equivalent to their price of Look
Around being approximately three times the cost of the paid what's ar
Because I like it enough to read, and read, and read again, of course. I don't
want to constaly check it out again from a library; I want to have it on call,
twenty-four seven, and I buy it, I ensure just that.
Jane
On May 12, 2013, at 5:55 PM, "Andy Baracco" wrote:
> Why would you want to
It is just for a book and the quality really isn't an issue. I bought
Switch a year ago and according to when I tried to register the newest
version was told I was not eligible for the latest upgrade. When I try to
convert a file I just get a 4 KB file shortcut that says it is an m4a. Kind
o
Hi,
I often buy books, on iBooks, kindle, nook, etc. But the problem I have with
this, is not the fact that I have to purchase the books, but the fact that I
have to use the vo voice to read the book. I'd rather have a separate tts voice
reading the book to me, so then I can lock the screen and
Hi Les,
Yes, if indeed it is $100 for 3 years that is 3 times as expensive, but I
fully expect that the Seeing Eye app will also be leagues better than Motion
GPS Drive for a blind person because all Motion GPS Drive gives you is
turn-by-turn navigation. I would hazard a guess here and say that
He has done everything right. I'm just not his audience.
At 05:14 PM 5/12/2013, you wrote:
I think you ought to consider letting the author know of your concerns.
Fred Olver
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Subject: Re: [Nfb-announce] Do no
If you paid for Switch, you should look at their support for getting the
upgrade to work. Are you doing this on Windows or the Mac? Try using the
hot keys or the pull down menus to do the conversion. I've found that
tabbing around on the interface sometimes makes you think you're on a
different
I can't off hand think of a book that I have read more than once, perhaps 1
or 2, but something I would do rarely.
Andy
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