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2012-09-19 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
t not >> because of any must-have features. >> >> Accessibility notwithstanding, while Apple may have reinvented the >> proverbial Smartphone wheel, they no longer own the road upon which it >> travels. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message

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2012-09-19 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
;>> >>> On 14 Sep 2012, at 04:37, James Mannion wrote: >>> >>>> Now that's something I wasn't aware of and in my opinion sounds like a >>>> stupid thing to do. Is that just a method of holding something back to >>>> make you come back and b

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2012-09-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
t;> The more common USB connection would have been even better. >> >> So, there you are. The list is not exhaustive, and it may not fire up other >> people's cylinders. It does to me, however, and with accessibility slowly >> smoothing out across the board, I'm just

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2012-09-19 Thread Scott Howell
oing to > have a tougher time defending Apple for their slow but steady wins the race > mentality. Any slower and they just might get left behind, but as someone > else said, here here for competition. > > Joe > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:v

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2012-09-18 Thread Joe
nal Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming I agree with what was said that change will slow down as a technology matures. Also I think you h

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2012-09-16 Thread Rose Combs
Isn't that called Holm's law or something similar? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Barry Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming If other pla

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2012-09-16 Thread Robin
I know this is a bit off topic, but the NEW Windows Phone 8, Nokia Lumia 920, will have built in accessibility. I just don't know how it will compare to the iPhone's accessibility or Android's accessibility. I do know that Microsoft waited 2 years before putting out of the box accessibility int

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2012-09-16 Thread Robin
phone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of James Mannion >> Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 2:41 p.m. >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming >> >> My question would be, what did you want it to include that it

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2012-09-16 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
best. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming I agree with what was said that change will slow down as a technology matures.

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2012-09-16 Thread James Mannion
m glad that accessibility is still built into the core, >>> and >>> that is something that for me personally keeps the iPhone ahead of >>> everything else.--Joe >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroup

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2012-09-16 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
gt;> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Raul A. Gallegos >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming >> >> Di

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2012-09-15 Thread Kevin Barry
ity is still built into the core, and that is something that for me personally keeps the iPhone ahead of everything else.--Joe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09 AM To: viphone@g

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2012-09-15 Thread Joe
eps the iPhone ahead of everything else.--Joe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Did you all consider that some people

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2012-09-15 Thread Joanne Chua
aster processor, better optics, dual band WiFi, and >> thinner and lighter, are all great reasons in my mind to upgrade if one >> is >> eligible. JMO. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> >> >>

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2012-09-14 Thread James Mannion
t; > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Joe > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:38 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: i5 Underwhelming > > > > Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I'

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2012-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Joanne, I have not noticed a significant improvement with OCR and barcode scanning apps between my iPhone 4 with a 5 MP camera and my iPhone 4S with an 8 MP campera and many other improvements in the camera/image processing. I think how well or not well many of these apps work depends on whethe

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2012-09-14 Thread Jesus Garcia
to the new phone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 15:34 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming Honestly, I don't agree. I have a 4s and the only reason I'm not upgrading

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2012-09-14 Thread Daniel Miller
e resources needed to support wideband audio. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 7:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Hi Mark and all. One feature w

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2012-09-14 Thread Ricardo Walker
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Scott Howell > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming > > Mark, > > What do you mean by "The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be abl

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
Accessibility notwithstanding, while Apple may have reinvented the > proverbial Smartphone wheel, they no longer own the road upon which it > travels. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

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2012-09-14 Thread M. Taylor
o: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Mark, What do you mean by "The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack of innovation" How is manipulating playlists a lack of innovation? Since

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2012-09-14 Thread Daniel Miller
a thin profile device. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joanne Chua Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Hi there, I think what a littl

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2012-09-14 Thread Joanne Chua
gt; >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of James Mannion >> Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 2:41 p.m. >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming >

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2012-09-14 Thread David Chittenden
stores opened. > > Other than that I think they did what they needed to do. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of James Mannion > Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 2:41 p.m. > To:

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2012-09-14 Thread David Chittenden
d-core, it's only dual-core, running at 1.2GHZ. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of James Mannion >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:41 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject:

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2012-09-14 Thread David Chittenden
one@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Keith Watson >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:59 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming >> >> >> >> Joe, >> >> >> >> It's evolutionary, not

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
Tunes will be accessible, we always seem to be > lagging a bit on that front. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of M. Taylor > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:06 AM > To: viphone@googlegroup

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
ted. > > Mark > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Joe > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:38 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: i5 Underwhelming > > Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plat

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2012-09-14 Thread Daniel Miller
Noone will know until it's released in October. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming Does anyone know if th

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2012-09-14 Thread Rose Combs
Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming Hello Joe, I totally and completely agree with you. While I will purchase the iPhone 5, there is definitely no wow factor and I'm certainly not recommending it to iPhone 4 S users. The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes play

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2012-09-14 Thread Daniel Miller
to:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming That depends on where you are. Here, NFC is used on our busses, and to pay for a bunch of things. Jonathan _ From: viphone@google

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2012-09-14 Thread Rick Alfaro
to upgrade if one is eligible. JMO. Best, Rick From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: i5 Underwhelming Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hi

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2012-09-14 Thread Jonathan Mosen
That depends on where you are. Here, NFC is used on our busses, and to pay for a bunch of things. Jonathan _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 9:18 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5

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2012-09-14 Thread Andy Baracco
One problem is that folks take rumor to be gospel, and then are disappointed when it turns out that the rumors were just that, rumors. Andy -Original Message- From: Jonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming

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2012-09-14 Thread M. Taylor
says more about their lack of innovation than anything. I think the big thing this year is iOS 6 about which I am extremely excited. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com S

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
Sieghard, THanks for sharing the article and it was pretty interesting. I do not know either about the ram beyond what has ben said, but even the normally reliable sources are not Apple, so correct that we do not know until the horse speaks. I really believe it matters little about how many cor

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2012-09-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
I tried looking for specs on the Apple site, but the chip specs are noticeably absent. I suppose we will just have to wait and see what the performance issues are. Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archiv

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2012-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Scott, >From all I read and heard the A6 is not a Quad Core and may not even have a Quad Core GPU (graphics processing unit) as is the case with the A5X which is in the new iPad. Here is a link to an article, it's a bit technical, but it makes it clear that we don't know exactly yet what the sp

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2012-09-14 Thread Christopher Chaltain
ck and buy the next one done properly? >>> >>> On 9/13/12, Daniel Miller wrote: >>>> The A6 isn't quad-core, it's only dual-core, running at 1.2GHZ. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.c

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2012-09-14 Thread Christopher Chaltain
ome back and buy the next one done properly? >> >> On 9/13/12, Daniel Miller wrote: >>> The A6 isn't quad-core, it's only dual-core, running at 1.2GHZ. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphon

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2012-09-14 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Did you all consider that some people might have NFC what NFC is? LOL, just kidding. Every time I hear NFC, I don't think payment system. I think, "No F.g Clue". Anyway, seriously though, I'm not going to belittle anyone who upgrades from the 4S to the 5 because after all, it's still movin

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of James Mannion >>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:41 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming >>>

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2012-09-14 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
More than that, there is no universal NFC standard yet applied, everyone has their own take and specification on it… Thus, if they put a version into the iPHone, you may in fact find huge sways of folk complaining as it doesn't do anything for them at all. On 14 Sep 2012, at 07:38, Sieghard Weit

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2012-09-14 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
ervice. Anyway, I >>> don't mean for the thread to balloon into a negative rant. I was just >>> offering some views from a consumer's viewpoint. >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@go

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
t; Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 2:41 p.m. > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming > > My question would be, what did you want it to include that it did not? > To some of us it is worth it to have LTE support verses not with the old > models. Sounds like t

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
On the issue of NFC, it is not widely used enough to justify including it and I understand there are still some issues with the technology. I believe APple is banking on the fact there is a wider use of barcodes which would be a very smart move. You can do quite a lot with just barcodes and not

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2012-09-14 Thread Scott Howell
Miller wrote: >> The A6 isn't quad-core, it's only dual-core, running at 1.2GHZ. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of James Mannion >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9

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2012-09-13 Thread Jonathan Mosen
phone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 2:41 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming My question would be, what did you want it to include that it did not? To some of us it is worth it to have LTE support verses not with the old models. Sounds lik

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2012-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Well said, Allison. It seems that with every release of a new iPhone a certain group of people (and I don't necessarily mean just people on this list) complain and say it's disappointing etc. When the 4S came out it was the same, a lot of people were disappointed it wasn't called the iPhone 5 as if

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2012-09-13 Thread Allison Mervis
Keep in mind guys, that Apple doesn't really need to re-invent the wheel, because they have, in a sense already invented the wheel. At this point, they're just improving upon something that is already wildly popular and a downright joy to use. Allison On Sep 13, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Keith Watson w

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2012-09-13 Thread James Mannion
core, running at 1.2GHZ. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of James Mannion > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:41 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming > > My question

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2012-09-13 Thread Daniel Miller
The A6 isn't quad-core, it's only dual-core, running at 1.2GHZ. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming M

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2012-09-13 Thread James Mannion
ups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Keith Watson > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:59 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming > > > > Joe, > > > > It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. A6 quad core processo

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2012-09-13 Thread Joe
ooglegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Joe, It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. A6 quad core processor and a gig of ram is sexy enough for me to tr

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2012-09-13 Thread Keith Watson
Joe, It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. A6 quad core processor and a gig of ram is sexy enough for me to trade in my 4s for the 5. Keith On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:37 PM, "Joe" wrote: > Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I’m not an > Apple hater. I have the 4S like

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2012-09-13 Thread Joe
Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I'm not an Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac Air and a Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this latest model. The hardware will finally look attractive, unlike the current ugly boxy form