I think the prediction was based on the evidence that Earth has been subject
to periodic ice ages. Given the frequency of ice ages in the past it was
simply assumed there would be another ice age sometime within
the next 15,000 (?) years.
Harry
On 24/6/2007 7:54 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
I last po
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
Nick Psalmer wrote..
>I have to point out that these groups you mention must be American
and are therefore unlikely to be part of the internationally
>recognised and credible environmental groups such as Friends of the
Earth International (at least 50 countries) and Gree
Nick Palmer wrote:
Philip Winestone replied to me privately and, amid his assertions of
his own objectivity, he wrote
Several times on Vortex, reference has been made to the underrated BBC
television science series called "Connections."
One of the surprising messages coming from James Burke's historical
insight is that "progress" in science and technology - when looked at
with 20/20 hindsight - is almost neve
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:40:55 -0400
(GMT-04:00):
Hi,
[snip]
>>Ok, agree to let them build a coal plant or a battery plant in your backyard
>>then. Plug-ins and hybrids just transpose the pollution problem away from
>>where actual consumption is taking place.
>
>T
On Jun 24, 2007, at 3:49 PM, William Beaty wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007, Horace Heffner wrote:
How quickly memory fades:
"When I used a soda straw and blew upon a thread with all my might,
the dot in the mist only moved a little... Not at all like smoke,
they are more like carbon-fiber spider
Nick Psalmer wrote..
>I have to point out that these groups you mention must be American and are
>therefore unlikely to be part of the internationally >recognised and credible
>environmental groups such as Friends of the Earth International (at least 50
>countries) and Greenpeace >International
On Jun 24, 2007, at 3:50 PM, Michel Jullian wrote:
I had some trouble coming to terms with this observation myself
when I first experimented with corona discharges, but emitter
current is equal to plate current at all times, not just on
average, even though the ions take ages (milliseconds
Jeff Fink wrote:
>I last posted on the global warming subject several months ago with a
>question that was not adequately answered by the global warming believers.
>So, here it is again.
>
>
>Why were the climate experts of the late seventies warning us of a coming
>ice age while we were in the e
I last posted on the global warming subject several months ago with a
question that was not adequately answered by the global warming believers.
So, here it is again.
Why were the climate experts of the late seventies warning us of a coming
ice age while we were in the early stages of global wa
Philip Winestone replied to me privately and, amid his assertions of his own
objectivity, he wrote
<>
Hardly, Mr W - the first sentence of your initial email started <> Deconstructing this, it is plain that,
if you were truly trying to accurately communicate your ideas, you believe that
man m
I had some trouble coming to terms with this observation myself when I first
experimented with corona discharges, but emitter current is equal to plate
current at all times, not just on average, even though the ions take ages
(milliseconds) to cross the gap. Try it if you don't believe me.
A mo
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007, Horace Heffner wrote:
> How quickly memory fades:
>
> "When I used a soda straw and blew upon a thread with all my might,
> the dot in the mist only moved a little... Not at all like smoke,
> they are more like carbon-fiber spiderwebs under high linear
> tension...
And now
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007, Michel Jullian wrote:
> I think you have misunderstood what I suggested, which was not a linear
> chain of charged droplets, but one of mere air ions (ultra low current
> point to plane corona discharge), only too far apart (due to the low
> current) to provoke any significant
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On Jun 24, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Michel Jullian wrote:
Nice (I am really impressed by the ASCII art)
Gee, you're easily impressed. 8^)
but R2 is superfluous Horace. Current is the same at all points of
the circuit, so R1 (or R1 and R3) is sufficient to measure the
discharge current, whateve
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On Jun 24, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Michel Jullian wrote:
Nice (I am really impressed by the ASCII art) but R2 is superfluous
Horace. Current is the same at all points of the circuit, so R1 (or
R1 and R3) is sufficient to measure the discharge current, whatever
the nature (filament, drops, ions..
Nice (I am really impressed by the ASCII art) but R2 is superfluous Horace.
Current is the same at all points of the circuit, so R1 (or R1 and R3) is
sufficient to measure the discharge current, whatever the nature (filament,
drops, ions...) of the discharge. Agreed?
Michel
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I just noticed the thread name changed.
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Fig. 1 - Circuit diagram for drop/thread
PHILIP WINESTONE wrote:
Good points. When you consider it, measuring accurate "global
temperature" is a far more difficult situation than most people know.
No doubt this is true, but "most people" are not the ones who are
trying to measure it. Measuring the temperature in a calorimeter is a
I wrote:
That is the story of cold fusion in a nutshell: experts worked for
years, published peer-reviewed paper with high sigma, replicated
data, but the research was drowned out by a chorus of nitwit
scientists and self-appointed experts in the Washington Post and Time magazine.
In other w
Good points. When you consider it, measuring accurate "global temperature" is
a far more difficult situation than most people know. Heavens, even measuring
the mean temperature of a room over a period of 24 hours is no mean feat; where
do the sensors go? Near the window? Opposite the window?
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P
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The emitter and plate can exc
On Jun 23, 2007, at 10:30 PM, William Beaty wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:36:57 +0200, "Michel Jullian"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
About the low current phenomenon, it occurs to me that a
sufficiently
low current ion stream, where the ions would form a clearly discrete
dotted line rather
Hi Bill,
I think you have misunderstood what I suggested, which was not a linear chain
of charged droplets, but one of mere air ions (ultra low current point to plane
corona discharge), only too far apart (due to the low current) to provoke any
significant widening of the beam by sideways mutua
One probably calculates mean global temperature based on other measurements.
I expect that climate science is advanced enough to know what measurements
are necessary and how to calculate the global temperature from those
measurements.
If they are wrong, then there is either something fundamentally
PHILIP WINESTONE wrote:
>When the rational minds at Vortex start to buy into the mythology/religion of
>man-made global warming, we're in deep trouble...
>There was an interesting article today in The National Post (Canada), written
>by a physicist, in which, among other things, he asked the qu
Hi Richard,
How inconvenient that people like you and I won't just lie down and allow
ourselves to be thoroughly programmed.
CO2 credits? Reminds me of a little piece of "philosophy" that one of my
fellow Glaswegian "lay philosophers" said: "Man has an infinite capacity for
stupidity."
(I
Hi Richard,
You wrote <> and << plus a number of non profit
advocacy groups receiving public funding.>>
I have to point out that these groups you mention must be American and are
therefore unlikely to be part of the internationally recognised and credible
environmental groups su
Let me just repeat what I said to Nick Palmer. Don't make the unjustified
assumption that I "believe" anyone, including myself. And don't put words in
my mouth, that don't belong there. Assumptions and judgments such as I
indicate, are more a reflection of your mind than mine.
P.
- Or
So let me see if I've gotcha.
Greenies, alternate energy and hippies are evil.
And oil companies are good and only speak the truth without any hint of
anything self serving.
I bet you'd have believed the tobacco lobby too.
On 6/24/07, PHILIP WINESTONE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
When the rati
John Steck wrote:
>Ok, agree to let them build a coal plant or a battery plant in your backyard
>then. Plug-ins and hybrids just transpose the pollution problem away from
>where actual consumption is taking place.
That is incorrect for two reasons that we have often discussed here, and that
you
The day after the levees were breached in New Orleans as a result of the
hurricane Katrina, we contacted FEMA-Dallas.
They were going to repair the pumps and pump polluted stormwater back into the
Gulf. We happened to have an order ready for a huge CSO basin ( Combined Sewage
Overflow) project f
Nick Palmer wrote..
Your whole position, and that of people like you, seems to be based upon the
irrational belief that people cannot affect the planets systems for good or
ill. Bring on whatever you have got - I will try to demolish it.
Howdy Nick,
Anyone with eyes can see a huge black dead
Dear Mr Winestone,
I do wish people like you would not keep stirring
up the mud with the ridiculous beliefs that are implied in your phrase "When
the rational minds at Vortex start to buy into the mythology/religion of
man-made global warming, we're in deep trouble".
Ceramic rather than plastic makes sense for this kind of discharge indeed
(dielectric barrier discharge, the kind used in ozonizers), but my question
was, why piezoelectric? I thought maybe you were thinking about converting
vibrations into electricity, or electricity into vibrations, but maybe
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