Re: [Vo]:Adrian Prael

2008-07-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 30, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:23:19 -0800: Hi, [snip] I was emailed a link to an article referring to the work of Adrian Prael on Casimir force powered devices: http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=N

Re: [Vo]:Double phase-change

2008-07-30 Thread thomas malloy
Jones Beene wrote: --- thomas malloy wrote: Phase change I understand, but how does this relate to cohering the ZPE? Think about water and steam and the supercritical overlap of the two. This is where things are not well understood and anomalies happen. This page on Wiki is a good in

Re: [Vo]:Adrian Prael

2008-07-30 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:23:19 -0800: Hi, [snip] >I was emailed a link to an article referring to the work of Adrian >Prael on Casimir force powered devices: > >> http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=954 > >Unfortunately, the "Read Ful

Re: [Vo]:Double phase-change

2008-07-30 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones, SCWO has been around for awhile. UT-Austin, Huntsman( had taken over the Texaco Research lab in Austin), U of Michigan and General Atomic were "involved" in a research program funded by "uncle sugar" back awhile. Dumb me became interested in all the claims published regarding this "

[Vo]:Adrian Prael

2008-07-30 Thread Horace Heffner
I was emailed a link to an article referring to the work of Adrian Prael on Casimir force powered devices: http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=954 Unfortunately, the "Read Full Interview Here" link no longer works. Anyone familiar with Adrian Prael's work? Best r

Re: [Vo]:Double phase-change

2008-07-30 Thread Jones Beene
--- thomas malloy wrote: > Phase change I understand, but how does this relate > to cohering the ZPE? Good question, and there is no assurance at all that it does. But in general there is such a large difference in volume between a gas and a liquid of the same molecule- as much as 3000:1 and th

[Vo]:Re: [Vo] Double phase-change

2008-07-30 Thread Jones Beene
Hmmm -- very curious, no? This quote is in my recent google alerts: "Next month, India’s largest automaker, Tata Motors, will be premiering it’s first air-powered car with Frenchman, Guy Negre’s, innovative engine. That’s right. About 6,000 zero-emission cars will be scooting around the streets o

[Vo]:Quotes from Beaudette book

2008-07-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I featured the Beaudette book on the front page at LENR-CANR.org, but people have not been downloading it in large numbers. Apparently, readers do not pay much attention to my recommendations. I suppose that is good because it means that they pay attention to other peoples' recommendations out

Re: [Vo]:Double phase-change

2008-07-30 Thread thomas malloy
Jones Beene wrote: --- Michael My comments about double phase-change and ZPE are a secondary interpretation of "filtered" information The amount of energy required to move a car 160 KM seems high, and the amount of energy in a tank of compressed air seems low. I mean why would any sane o

[Vo]:Re: Double phase-change

2008-07-30 Thread Michel Jullian
http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/news/tata-motors-developing-electric-car-hostgreen-cars/23/02/348726 <> This doesn't look like a product announcement for next month I am afraid! Michel - Original Message - From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "vortex" Sent: Wednesday, J

Re: [Vo]:Double phase-change

2008-07-30 Thread R C Macaulay
Tata of India is owned by people that have made a lot of money and have the Indian Gov't behind them. That's not enough.Their business model obviously needs some work. Jaguar and Land Rover does not a business model make. Showing beats telling.. Going up against Toyota may be a bridge too far..

[Vo]:Re: Walking the dog

2008-07-30 Thread Michel Jullian
Although I agree they have been in stealth mode for much too long, I can't imagine them leaking red herrings, what a disgusting thought! Michel - Original Message - From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Walking the dog > Ye

Re: [Vo]:Wild card in the Arctic??

2008-07-30 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 30, 2008, at 5:25 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Thank you, Horace! Now, I wonder where Devoir got that 412 gBBL number? Sure doesn't seem to be in the report. Seems like they must have conflated the oil and gas numbers using some kind of conversion factor t

Re: [Vo]:Wild card in the Arctic??

2008-07-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 30, 2008, at 5:25 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Thank you, Horace! Now, I wonder where Devoir got that 412 gBBL number? Sure doesn't seem to be in the report. Seems like they must have conflated the oil and gas numbers using some kind of conversion factor to turn cubic feet of

Re: [Vo]:Double phase-change

2008-07-30 Thread Jones Beene
--- Michael My comments about double phase-change and ZPE are a secondary interpretation of "filtered" information which is available online, not from only the company but mostly accumulated from blogs and other commentators; therefore it is unlikely that anyone will find an authoritative refere

Re: [Vo]:Jerry Bishop Dies

2008-07-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven Krivit wrote: I spoke with Jerry about a year ago. I wanted to bring him up to speed on the subject, show him how important a role he and the WSJ had and how he contributed to this history. He didn't want to talk about it. When Gene Mallove last spoke to Bishop, Bishop seemed embarrass

Re: [Vo]:Wild card in the Arctic??

2008-07-30 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Thank you, Horace! Now, I wonder where Devoir got that 412 gBBL number? Sure doesn't seem to be in the report. Seems like they must have conflated the oil and gas numbers using some kind of conversion factor to turn cubic feet of natural gas into barrels of petroleum. Horace Heffner wrote