Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

It was so much trouble with *intensity* because the cathodes - more precisely the NAE are poisoned with gases that do not allow to D or H to enter and react. It was also bad for *reproducibility *the systems were grosso modo unpredictable. One step forward two steps backwards. As regarding Energet

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Dear Horace, thank you for the generous offer- my house (2 rooms flat in a block building well insulated) is heated with natural gas efficiency 91%, yearly cost 400 US $. approx) temp 22 C. No calorimetry. Not even a first billion dollars available. Peter On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Horace

Re: [Vo]:Rai News 24 "the inquiry" on LENR

Grazie. a Vi prego- la seconda parte? It was very well organized and had logical fluency... Peter 2011/4/17 Michele Comitini > Only for Italian speaking... > > http://www.rainews24.rai.it/it/canale-tv.php?id=22918 > > guests: > > - Yogendra Srivastava > - Francesco Celani > - Alberto Carpiteri

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Sergio Focardi, the father of “Ni-H Cold-Fusion" [English translation]

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:07:12 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I suppose the press will hear of this, and will be asking questions. One can only hope! :) > >- Jed Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html

[Vo]:Make a cup of tea

Rossi should build a special purpose Ecat so that Richard Garwin can heat his cup of tea. ;-) "I require that you be able to make one of these things, replicate it, put it here. It heats up the cup of tea. I'll drink the tea. Then you make me another cup of tea. And I'll drink that too. " htt

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

I do not understand this one. Can anybody help? Thomas Blakeslee April 14th, 2011 at 7:03 PM I’m confused about the caption on the closeup picture on the NyTeknik article on the 4.5 KW demo. It sa

RE: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

Hey Alan, All this talk about ways to fake the Rossi experiment got me to thinking about a clever way which may not have been mentioned - or maybe I overlooked it if it was covered already. Was hydrogen peroxide mentioned? And/or did anyone actually *taste the water* in the first test ? BTW I d

[Vo]:Thixotropic fields?

Harry Veeder on Sat, 16 Apr 2011 19:33:45 wrote "When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail. Electric repulsion at the atomic scale might have the characteristics of a thixotropic liquid." Harry, And gravity at the Planck scale may vie with black holes but so quickly cancel

[Vo]:Thixotropic fields?

When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail. Electric repulsion at the atomic scale might have the characteristics of a thixotropic liquid. Slam like charges together and they resist intensely. Bring the charges together slowly and the resistance diminishes. (e.g cornstarch and

[Vo]:In world in which thermometers do not work . . .

A hospital: "Doctor, this patient seems to have a high fever. It is registering 40°C. Then again, you can't depend on these thermometers! He might be stone-cold dead, at 15°C." Your local TV weather report: "Today's highs reached a scorching 104°F! We think. We're not sure. It might have been a co

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

Axil, please continue posting, your comments are appreciated. As I understand, this forum exists only for sharing information and ideas; personal comments should not be posted nor ever considered. Jay Caplan - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sa

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

Axil Axil wrote: > > Like all Lenr reactions, the Rossi reactor show natural abundance in it’s > ash product. This should lend credence to the claim that the Rossi reaction > is real and that it is a valid Lenr Reaction. > Others have already pointed this out, but in every case so far, LENR tran

RE: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

Axil - My apologies. I was a bit frustrated at what seems to be "beating a dead horse" with this particular point . You have already demonstrated a creative mind, and the Mott insulator thing could be a strong insight. Again, sorry to go overboard there . Jones My double apolog

RE: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

>From Horace: ... >> From Mr. Rothwell >> You are looking in the wrong place. Scroll down to "Rossi 18-hour >> demonstration." The calorimetry is documented in as much detail as >> you find in any HVAC inspection sheet: >> Duration of test: 18 hours >> Flow rate: 3,000 L/h = ~833 ml/s. >> Coolin

[Vo]:Rossi To Provide E-Cat for University of Uppsala and Stockholm

>From andrea Rossi's blog Dear “HRG”: You are perfectly right, I agree totally with your comment, as for concerns the incompatibility and the unacceptability of entities which work and get financing from Oil Companies, Nuclear Companies, Hot Fusion Research centers as “indipendent third pa

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

I am a systems engineer who has spent his career reverse engineering legacy systems where no documentation or human expertise exists. I have development an interest in cold fusion and am learning its ground rules. I have come to this site to learn from the experts... the best around. If I pursue

Re: [Vo]:Rust is not possible

Let us generalize the discussion about the two catalysts involved in the Rossi reaction in terms of there function requirements to see if a reaction control mechanism can be derived. Let us get into the details on this point as follows: Under the assumption that the nuclear active area in the

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

I wrote: > Attaching the inlet flow directly to a faucet - very scientific! Not being >> able to adjust the flow rate so a good delta t can be obtained - very >> professional! >> > > How the hell do you think they do it in any apartment building or > factory?!? Yes, this is very professional. It

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Horace Heffner wrote: You have to be kidding. This is supposed to represent a due diligence > test??? Wow, there must be a huge market for a device that can heat water > from 15°C to 20°C for 18 hours. > Slow down the flow and you can make it as hot as you like. When a boiler engineer tests a

RE: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

Wow. I can see that science is a completely new field for you. Your take on this paper is bizarre and so removed from reality that I have to ask - what is your real profession? This report is about magic numbers, which are tendencies. There is absolutely nothing in this that supports this

[Vo]:Rust is not possible

Axil, * * Loading hydrogen into Rust does not produce nuclear derived heat. Correct - it produce iron and water. I do not see Fe2O3 specifically as being involved at all in Rossi. FeO - however, when fully supported (shared oxygen) does make sense - but not Fe2O3. After all, the

Re: [Vo]:Jan and Feb experiment data revisited

Alan Fletcher wrote: I'm still having trouble reconciling the reported numbers for the Feb test > http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm and > http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3108242.ece > The numbers are somewhat different. I do not know which is correct. I thought it would b

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

On Apr 16, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm I don't see where the calorimetry is documented there. I don't see where an overall energy balance was taken. Also, it was only a 6 hour test - pretty useless for due diligence. You

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

Here is the theory that you are rejecting laid out in detail from Miley http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/STAFF/VISITING_FELLOWS&PROFESSORS/pdf/MagicQuarkTucson1.pdf "*Boltzmann Equilibrium of Endothermic Heavy Nuclear Synthesis in the Universe and a Quark Relation to the Magic Numbers ***" It is not

[Vo]:Rai News 24 "the inquiry" on LENR

Only for Italian speaking... http://www.rainews24.rai.it/it/canale-tv.php?id=22918 guests: - Yogendra Srivastava - Francesco Celani - Alberto Carpiteri - Emilio Del Giudice - Roberto Germano mic

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

Another factor might be the lapse of time from when the sample is active to when it was analysed.Perhaps the difference from the natural isotopic abundance only persists for a limited period of time once the reactor is switched off. Subsequent decay processes eventually give the sample a nat

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Peter Gluck wrote: Calorimetry was a curse and a burden for Pd- D CF/LENR because much more > money, creativity, patience, discusions was consumed for measuring small > quantities of released heat instead of focussing on the intensification of > the process. The results are known. I think Storm

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Horace Heffner wrote: > http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm >> > > > I don't see where the calorimetry is documented there. I don't see where an > overall energy balance was taken. Also, it was only a 6 hour test - pretty > useless for due diligence. You are looking in the wrong place. Scroll down

[Vo]:Jan and Feb experiment data revisited

I'm still having trouble reconciling the reported numbers for the Feb test http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm and http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3108242.ece From: "Jed Rothwell" (in the calorimetry thread) In that case, in the Feb. 10 test, when input power was 80 W, t

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

On Apr 16, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: Calorimetry was a curse and a burden for Pd- D CF/LENR because much more money, creativity, patience, discusions was consumed for measuring small quantities of released heat instead of focussing on the intensification of the process. The res

RE: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:04 Jones Beene wrote [snip]We know this as fact - because we occasionally find meteorites that come from different systems, or even from different time frames in the Nova that preceded earth. The isotope balances are vastly different.[/snip] Jones, Yes

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

On Apr 16, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: I can't easily read the document, but the fact professional techniques exist is irrelevant. When and where were these techniques applied to Rossi's experiments? On Feb. 10, during the 18-hour test. See: http://le

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Calorimetry was a curse and a burden for Pd- D CF/LENR because much more money, creativity, patience, discusions was consumed for measuring small quantities of released heat instead of focussing on the intensification of the process. The results are known. In the industry the real term is heat meas

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

On Apr 16, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: Jed, you *assume* here the power outputs claimed were actually achieved. You have already bought into the hype. Think critically, scientifically. What if the total energy out is actually equal to the total energy i

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Horace Heffner wrote: > I can't easily read the document, but the fact professional techniques > exist is irrelevant. When and where were these techniques applied to > Rossi's experiments? > On Feb. 10, during the 18-hour test. See: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm I cannot imagine what you ha

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

Let us get into the details on this point as follows: Under the assumption that the nuclear active area in the Rossi process is within large numbers of nanoscopic crystal defects in Rust and NiO is somehow the controlling mechanism, what can that mechanism be? The nuclear heat comes from Fe2O

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Horace Heffner wrote: > Jed, you *assume* here the power outputs claimed were actually achieved. > You have already bought into the hype. Think critically, scientifically. > > What if the total energy out is actually equal to the total energy in? In that case, in the Feb. 10 test, when input

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Again, we seem to be interleaving posts. On Apr 16, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Let me emphasize that the techniques used by Levi, Essen et al. are industry standard. They are written into regulations world-wide. They were developed by the ASME and other professional organizati

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Jed, we seem to be interleaving remarks. Also my ISP seems to be having problems. This should resolve itself as I will be unable to continue this today as I am leaving town. On Apr 16, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: If the steam was wet, then the result mi

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Let me emphasize that the techniques used by Levi, Essen et al. are industry standard. They are written into regulations world-wide. They were developed by the ASME and other professional organizations. They are mandatory: you have to test any large boiler with these techniques on a regular basis,

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

On Apr 16, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: Estimating heat output is really very simple to achieve, as I have noted here before. Simply direct the output into an insulated barrel and keep track of the temperature. If the output is in the form of steam, pre-

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Horace Heffner wrote: > If the steam was wet, then the result might yet still be OU, or not, but >> why >> not wait to pass judgment until it is done correctly? >> > > The situation is way beyond just the need for "passing judgement". This is > a case of a lot of hoopla and maybe money changing

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

Look carefully at what Rossi says. In one response to a question, he uses the word 'catalysts'. Plural! Nickel, rust and copper? Let us get into the details on this point as follows: Under the assumption that the nuclear active area in the Rossi process is within large numbers of nanosco

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

On Apr 16, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace, I'm glad that the post got through, because it is exactly on target. If the steam was wet, then the result might yet still be OU, or not, but why not wait to pass judgment until it is done correctly? The situation is way beyond jus

Re: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Horace Heffner wrote: > Estimating heat output is really very simple to achieve, as I have noted > here before. Simply direct the output into an insulated barrel and keep > track of the temperature. If the output is in the form of steam, pre-load > the barrel with cold water and run the steam t

RE: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

Fran, * Harry, I think it is more a matter of proving how the Casimir environment is equivalent to the stellar environment. Which stellar environment? There are literally trillions of different stellar environments, all of them unique because the mass of the predecessor star is uniqu

RE: [Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

Horace, I'm glad that the post got through, because it is exactly on target. If the steam was wet, then the result might yet still be OU, or not, but why not wait to pass judgment until it is done correctly? -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner This is the third attempt to transmi

RE: [Vo]:Latest radio talk and lectures

Dear Frank Z, I wish you all the luck that you have coming from you tireless efforts to promote MHz-M, and you will need it. More than that, is there a way to waste my waist, or is that another issue? BTW, in what precise way does megahertz-meter predict the Rossi effect? J. -Original Me

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

Hi, Don't know if you all have handy tools for conversion at hand, but I personally like this one a lot (use it since several years). http://joshmadison.com/convert-for-windows/ Kind regards, MoB On 16-4-2011 2:47, Jed Rothwell wrote: Terry Blanton mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote: >

[Vo]:Why is calorimetry avoided in Rossi's experiments?

This is the third attempt to transmit this. The isotopic analyses and contradictory claims about isotopic abundances thus far make Rossi's claims look absurd. The theories proposed do not match results. For example: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3080659.ece/BINARY/Rossi- Focardi_p

Re: [Vo]:Latest radio talk and lectures

> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:07 AM,   wrote: Jones don't waist your time looking at this stuff. > >> http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chaptere.html > > Ad hominem circumstantial. > > T >

Re: [Vo]:Latest radio talk and lectures

On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:07 AM, wrote: > http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chaptere.html Ad hominem circumstantial. T

RE: Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

This relativistic Casimir effect blender would create Quark soup most efficiently where the field boundaries intensify due to narrowing cavities [1/d^3] less than the normal width of a gas molecule from our perspective - I am NOT saying these atoms violate the limits imposed by Liftshitz and other

[Vo]:Rossis has had more than enough validation requests

• Frank • April 15th, 2011 at 8:47 PM Dear Mr. Rossi, I wonder if you are aware that Professor Peter Hagelstein of MIT remarked today that he would love the opportunity to test the E-cat. I found his comments in this article that was posted on April 15th. I thought you might be

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > Is it in general possible to regulate the power output of the E-cat in a > continous way and if yes in what limits about? Is it done by regulating the > H2 – pressure or can it be achieved by adjusting the preheating input? > > April 16th, 2011 at 10:36 AM > > 1- Yes, fr

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

ON Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:10: Harry Veeder wrote [snip]Has anyone described the necessary chain of stellar events that would produce the present isotopic abundance of copper and is there proof that all those events actually happened? My point is perhaps some elements/isotopes are formed naturall

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

On 2011-04-15 23:46, Jed Rothwell wrote: [...] You could also add this important piece of information: * * * http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360&cpage=16#comment-0 Is it in general possible to regulate the power output of the E-cat in a continous way and if yes in what limits

[Vo]:Latest radio talk and lectures

I have been on the radio recently in Canada. Another show on serious satellite radio has followed and featured my work. A link to the most recent radio show is posted below. More are to follow. I have also lectured at the University of Maryland in March 2011. Industry leaders and Chief Sc

RE: [Vo]:The mechanism behind the fail safe nature of the Rossi process.

Axil, Apparently you failed to read or understand Peter’s comment. ONCE AGAIN, IRON OXIDE IS REDUCED IN HOT HYDROGEN. It is that simple. There is no Fe2O3 – at least not in pressurized hydrogen at this temperature. There can be metallic iron present, and yes, Fe was seen in the Swedish repo

RE: [Vo]:Is it nuclear, or is it Memorex?

>From Harry, > Alchemy was more than just a collection of blind rituals. > It was based on a natural philosophy which may contain some > precious insights that were buried with the rise of the > mechanical philosophy. Well said. Steam Punk lives! ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWork

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Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

On Apr 15, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Axil Axil wrote: The scam status of the Rossi reactor has nothing to do with natural abundance in Lenr reactions. It has been shown that all Lenr reactions produce waste conformant to natural abundance. Like all Lenr reactions, the Rossi reactor show natural ab