I wonder why we are worried for a strong opposition to Ni-H LENR
as a form of cold fusion...not the scientists will decide
The initial problem of cold fusion is one well known to the players
of 'contract bridge' game- bidding too high, promise of cheap, inexhaustible
rich source of energy. But even
FYI:
Here's an article for all you theorists...
"Scientists suggest spacetime has no time dimension"
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-scientists-spacetime-dimension.html
-Mark
Jed wrote:
"let us prepare for more trouble"...
and
"I think we should marshal arguments and prepare to present our views, if the
mass media calls.
Let's face it, they are not likely to get a good initial impression of Rossi,
from his blog or the
way he talks. The field has suffered from the wors
Mark Iverson wrote:
Have to disagree with Jed's conclusions as to the extreme level of
> opposition that this will face...
>
Those are not conclusions so much as worst case scenarios. I think we should
be prepared for a continuation of what we have seen for the past 22 years.
However much we mi
One of the early uses will be in green houses, followed by the construction of
multistory green houses. With the ability to grow food year round the demand
for
fertilizers, herbicides and pesticides will drop, and more food will be grown
locally.
Harry
From: Mark Iverson
>To: vortex-l@eskimo
Have to disagree with Jed's conclusions as to the extreme level of opposition
that this will face...
I don't think there is any situation in the history of modern economics that
can compare with what
is happening...
Sure, there are powerful centers that don't want to see this technology make
on Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:20:32 Robin wrote in reply to Axil
[snip]
>*The motivation to reduce the size of the Cat-E down to a very small size
>may well be that a small Cat-E produces far less nuclear radiation than a
>large one. The scaling factor on this characteristic may be exponential.*
>
Axil Axil wrote:
> *With the exception of the natural gas industry and the centralized
> electric industry, all cold fusion obstructive forces are unpopular, weak
> and can be overcome.*
>
I think you are right. I hope you are right!
Still, I expect severe opposition, especially in the early s
wrote:
I believe the E-kitten actually used for the test was the one which still
> had
> cladding (far right). The stripped ones were just to show the construction.
> Not
> actually used in the test.
>
I think so.
> I think the smaller size is because the instability has turned out to be
> la
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:28:40 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>*The nuclear radiation production and residual latent radiation levels may
>well be a function of the power production level of the Rossi Cat-E. *
>
>* *
>
>*The motivation to reduce the size of the Cat-E down to a ver
Rock_nj wrote:
Rossi is either going to have something named after him (like a scientific
> unit, how about the cold fusion input/output ratio, the Rossi Ratio?) for
> being famous as the one who commercialized cold fusion or he will go down in
> history as one of the greatest hucksters. I have
I wrote something that seems contradictory, but isn't. I said:
* It is possible that vested interests may block the development of cold
fusion in the US for decades.
* If this happens we will soon become a banana republic that imports all
important technology from other countries.
If cold fusion
Rossi is either going to have something named after him (like a scientific
unit, how about the cold fusion input/output ratio, the Rossi Ratio?) for
being famous as the one who commercialized cold fusion or he will go down in
history as one of the greatest hucksters. I have been disappointed many
*Large international oil companies have little power over the oil producing
nation states that they depend upon. They would like nothing better then to
divorce their business plan away from OPEC.*
* *
*When a country gets it in their mind to get off oil, it can happen.
Brazil’s ethanol industry i
>From Alan,
>> I'll fix it on Monday ... UNLESS, of course, there's a new report to
>> evaluate!
>
> http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v323.php
> http://lenr.qumbu.com
>
> Updated -- with PDF file. (why would anyone want to print out the 60+ pages
> ???)
Works! Thanks! Sometimes a P
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
The opposition may win this political battle. Cold fusion may never be
allowed.
. . .
Big Oil's lobbyists could conceivably render the United States
irrelevant to the world's energy future, but that's about it.
Yes. Right. I should not have said "never be allowed
On 04/25/2011 02:12 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> ... Big oil, big coal, nuclear power, wind power and other vested
> interests will wage all-out political war, saturating members of
> congress
>
> The opposition may win this political battle. Cold fusion may never be
> allowed.
There are someth
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
There was a new test with Essén last week. I wrote to Essén. He's writing
> the report.
>
Great!
> The proposed method to check the water flow (major issue in last experiment
> since it was not checked during the experiment) was weighting the water tank
> before and after
At 04:40 PM 4/23/2011, Alan Fletcher wrote:
I'll fix it on Monday ... UNLESS, of course, there's a new report to evaluate!
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v323.php
http://lenr.qumbu.com
Updated -- with PDF file. (why would anyone want to print out the
60+ pages ???)
> Rega
With 'this week' i mean between 18 april and 21 april.
From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:21 of april 2011 test
Akira Shirakawa wrote:
According to Daniele Passerini (22passi), who knows some inside information
he is not a
*The nuclear radiation production and residual latent radiation levels may
well be a function of the power production level of the Rossi Cat-E. *
* *
*The motivation to reduce the size of the Cat-E down to a very small size
may well be that a small Cat-E produces far less nuclear radiation than a
There was a new test with Essén last week. I wrote to Essén. He's writing the
report. The proposed method to check the water flow (major issue in last
experiment since it was not checked during the experiment) was weighting the
water tank before and after.
From: Jed Rothwell
Sent: Monday, Apr
I assume the Rossi device is producing cold fusion, the same as the Pd-D
systems. Call it what you will, it is what it is. If it produces
radioactive byproducts such as tritium, that fact will soon be known. I
expect many laboratories will soon look closely and learn more about it
than we have
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:48 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> Adding more to the goose chase, let us not forget the fact that there
> are those who would like to denigrate the word "fusion", and replace
> it with what they believe is a more accurate term: "nuclear reaction."
This one
Steven - A milder "label" is not going to work when your commercial enemy is
big oil. The best we can hope for is that the nuclear reaction is easily
shielded and predictable. It would not hurt if it is a reaction often used in
human Medicine, either. Ref: the Pet scan
http://en.wikipedia.org/w
Jones sez:
...
> OTOH - we keep getting back to the problem of NRC approval,
> or even UL approval. With proved particle detection and
> real fusion, then we are back to being years away from
> having the device approved in the USA.
Adding more to the goose chase, let us not forget the fact that
This cartoon says it all, no?
However, one contrarian slant on Jed's comment about particle detection, is
that this may not be a net "positive" . although yes, it would literally
crush skepticism. For that we would all be grateful.
OTOH - we keep getting back to the problem of NRC approval
There have been a number of blogs discussing Rossi lately, but no
mainstream reports since NyTeknik. Some mainstream reporters are
sniffing around, but they have not published anything as far as I know.
The high-quality blogs are a valuable sources of information for us, but
they do not influe
Cold Fusion Is Real and Commercial Development Is Near
Cold Fusion has been a pariah to the skeptical mainstream scientific
community since it was first announced by electrochemists Stanley Pons and
Martin Fleischmann on March 23, 1989. But despite its status as an outcast
from the scientific comm
Well, there is no point to speculating. But I shall speculate anyway.
Establishment scientists + quite important + peer review = particle
detection!
This is the skeptics' worst nightmare.
- Jed
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1868#comic
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 05:25, Axil Axil
mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
“With temperature above the set the reactor is automatically stopped”
Axil,
We see the Mill’s powder in the Rowan confirmations totally
run-away but yet we get mixed messages about the Rossi reactor whic
On 2011-04-25 15:38, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Well, I hope no one was hurt. I mean blown up or irradiated.
When I hear about "something quite important" in cold fusion I get a bad
feeling.
Er, I mean... positively important!
Citing the original source, "an important step further for the
scientifi
Akira Shirakawa wrote:
>
> According to Daniele Passerini (22passi), who knows some inside information
> he is not allowed to divulge right now, something quite important happened
> on April 21st and apparently not just a simple test . . .
Well, I hope no one was hurt. I mean blown up or irradi
On 04/25/2011 01:21 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
> Maybe I missed your reasoning, but do you expect this experiment
> will produce non-null result unlike the MM experiment?
Just for clarity:
The quantum version of the experiment should consistently produce non-null
results.
The classical version should
On 2011-04-25 14:54, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Has there been any news about this test? Where did you hear about this?
I would love to hear more!
According to Daniele Passerini (22passi), who knows some inside
information he is not allowed to divulge right now, something quite
important happened o
Thank you Mike from Buffalo. I also like the universal auto link to my papers
on the web now.
Callers continued to phone in to talk about cold fusion. Mike from Buffalo, New
York, told George about a man named Frank Znidarsic who developed mathematical
formulae to help explain why cold fusion
Angela Kemmler wrote:
There was a test the day 21 of april 2011 (last week, thursday).
Has there been any news about this test? Where did you hear about this?
I would love to hear more!
- Jed
On 04/25/2011 01:21 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
- Original Message
From: Mauro Lacy
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 4:24:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Clock synchronisation is a red herring
On 04/24/2011 04:58 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
It occured to me that a one wa
Thanks for this post Axil, i have some comments and questions below...
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 05:25, Axil Axil wrote:
> *
> *
>
> *“With temperature above the set the reactor is automatically stopped”*
>
> *
> *
>
> *It the temperature continues to rise above another set point, the control
> bo
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