Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

The hyperlink to graph 3 is mistakenly pointing to graph 2 I think. On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 4:57 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > > Ed Storms said it was ok for me to post the following analysis he made: >> >> * * * * * * >>

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Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:10 PM, Axil Axil wrote: The hyperlink to graph 3 is mistakenly pointing to graph 2 I think. Right you are. Thanks! Should have been: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiT2_RF.png On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: On Oct 10, 2011, at

RE: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

> From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint > > Why doesn't Mills FINISH JUST ONE PRODUCT AND GET IT TO MARKET! > He's like a little kid who gets 90% done with something and then gets > bored > with it and is off to some new and challenging puzzle... never > completing > what he starts. > > The only other exp

RE: [Vo]:Re: [H-Ni_Fusion] How Rossi's ecat really works. The mystery details revealed.

>From Rich: ... > The water and steam heat energy coming out of the black box > device output, is thereby pumped right back into the machine. > This makes it possible to keep the device feeling hot, and > appear to be producing steam for a much longer period. > Also the device water containme

RE: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 23:07 -0700, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > Why doesn't Mills FINISH JUST ONE PRODUCT AND GET IT TO MARKET! > He's like a little kid who gets 90% done with something and then gets bored > with it and is off to some new and challenging puzzle... never completing > what he star

RE: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

Oh shoot! I thought you meant Rossi. Regarding Mills, I wholeheartedly agree. :) It's starting to lead me to believe that something's not there. Craig On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 09:06 -0400, Craig Haynie wrote: > On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 23:07 -0700, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > > Why doesn't Mills

Re: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > Why doesn't Mills FINISH JUST ONE PRODUCT AND GET IT TO MARKET! AADD T

Re: [Vo]:rcdc.it web tv video of Oct 6 Rossi test

Craig Haynie wrote: Interesting! Is there any indication of what the real time was then? Was that during heat after death? If it was more than an hour into it, that video image proves there is anomalous heat. It proves that all by itself, in the absence of thermocouple readings or any other ordi

Re: [Vo]:What is insulting and why?

Hello Jouni Valkonen, I think in any group, there are prominent leaders of various sorts, who often function as gatekeepers, posting messages to alert the majority of group members that one member is deviant from the majority of members, and therefore should be ignored -- then any member who answ

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Hi Robert, If this excess energy over what is required to heat .9g/s of water to 124C is somehow stored in the eCAT (say, as thermal energy in a fairly well insulated block of steel) then it would be enough energy to possibly give the impression of a self sustaining reaction for at least 3 hours.

[Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

Colin Hercus wrote: If this excess energy over what is required to heat .9g/s of water to 124C is somehow stored in the eCAT (say, as thermal energy in a fairly well insulated block of steel) then it would be enough energy to possibly give the impression of a self sustaining reaction for at l

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

jed, if the power were used to, say, run a thermoelectric heat pump, cooling one side of the pump, and heating something that was otherwise internally insulated, then heat WOULD go up after power is removed. (Just saying, if I were going to fake something, that's what I'd do. ) On Tue, Oct 11, 2

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

>From Hollins: > jed, if the power were used to, say, run a thermoelectric heat pump, > cooling one side of the pump, and heating something that was > otherwise internally insulated, then heat WOULD go up after power > is removed. (Just saying, if I were going to fake something, that's > what I'd

RE: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

Jed, Don't miss the fundamental argument of heat storage. Great care was taken to insulate the E-Cat, and keep heat from escaping. If you think that this is impossible, I have an experiment for you. Make a scalding hot 1/2 cup of coffee. Put it into a Thermos. See how long it takes to coo

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

Alexander Hollins wrote: jed, if the power were used to, say, run a thermoelectric heat pump, cooling one side of the pump, and heating something that was otherwise internally insulated . . . Sure. I agree. That would not be passive cooling. However, people have looked inside Rossi devices an

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

Robert Leguillon wrote: Don't miss the fundamental argument of heat storage. Great care was taken to insulate the E-Cat, and keep heat from escaping. If you think that this is impossible, I have an experiment for you. Make a scalding hot 1/2 cup of coffee. Put it into a Thermos. See how lo

[Vo]:Pre order your e-cat here! (not joke)

On this website http://www.planetpay.com/x_reg.php Rossi is OK with that website, as you can notice here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=20#comment-94587 John M ichell October 10th, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

Pour some boiling water into a thermos. For how long does the water continue to boil? Harry On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Robert Leguillon wrote: > Jed, > Don't miss the fundamental argument of heat storage. > Great care was taken to insulate the E-Cat, and keep heat from escaping.  If > you

RE: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

Do I get a "device that generates frequencies"? > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:16:48 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible > assertions about stored heat > From: hveeder...@gmail.com > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > > Pour some boiling water into a thermos. F

[Vo]:Here is how to fake the big e-cat:

>From ecatnews.com ** John Dlouhy October 11, 2011 - 3:08 pm | Permalink Enrico Billi tells us that they weighed the E-Cat before and after, but not why it mysteriously gained a kilogram of weight. I can offer a plausible explanation. On the botto

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

How much power does this frequency device need? Harry On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Robert Leguillon wrote: > Do I get a "device that generates frequencies"? > >> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:16:48 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible >> assertions ab

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

Hello Robert Leguillon, a pretty good short summary of Horace Heffner's competent, detailed, much improved critical reviews -- so pragmatic skepticism seems amply justified... Thanks, Rich Murray On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Robert Leguillon wrote: > Jed, > Don't miss the fundamental arg

Re: [Vo]:Here is how to fake the big e-cat:

Hello Daniel Rocha, Obviously, this scenario has to be discussed fairly and fully, before excess heat can be proclaimed to be irrefutable... How can we locate this post on ecatnews.com ? Thanks, Rich Murray On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > From ecatnews.com > *

[Vo]:Rossi's Legacy

I believe that the ecat will lead to successful commercial products and Rossi will end up rich (even if he loses control and it is only from notoriety, prizes etc), but if the successors to the ecat are successful then his greatest notoriety will probably come from being a much used example for the

Re: [Vo]:Here is how to fake the big e-cat:

Find it here: http://ecatnews.com/?p=1010#comments Although the scenario was discussed, this is "the cake recipe", as people say here, on how to fake one. 2011/10/11 Rich Murray > Hello Daniel Rocha, > > Obviously, this scenario has to be discussed fairly and fully, before > excess heat can be

Re: [Vo]:Here is how to fake the big e-cat:

Here's the link to John Dlouhy's post: http://ecatnews.com/?p=1010#comment-5135 Interesting prior discussions -- here's a selection of a few skeptical comments: http://ecatnews.com/?p=980 Ny TekNik’s Report admin on October 7, 2011 — 131 Comments Ny Teknik’s Report [Thank you, Renzo] I am

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Am 11.10.2011 16:01, schrieb Colin Hercus: Hi Robert, If this excess energy over what is required to heat .9g/s of water to 124C is somehow stored in the eCAT (say, as thermal energy in a fairly well insulated block of steel) then it would be enough energy to possibly give the impression of a

RE: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

Both Harry and Robert are missing Jed's point... In order for their thermos analogy to be a proper analogy, it would have to say this: Take a Thermos bottle and insert a thermocouple about 1/3rd of the way into it. Pour in boiling water to fill up the thermos to 1/2 way. The steam generated from

Re: [Vo]:Pre order your e-cat here! (not joke)

I am actually surprised that Rich did not comment on this because one of the clearest marks of scams is the pre order of products not properly demonstrated...

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

Hi Jed, I can design a device where heat in the output goes up after power is turned off. A simple analogy would be a steel bar, if apply heat to one end with a torch and measure the temperature of the other end there will be a temperature difference along the bar. When I stop applying heat there

Re: [Vo]:Here is how to fake the big e-cat:

http://ecatnews.com/?page_id=2 About\ eCatNews is run by me, Paul Story ( Dreamwords http://www.dreamwords.com/ ). Appalled by the wild misreporting of this (potentially) important technology, I wanted to write about it in a way that would be evidentially impartial. To understand why this is i

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Pump capacity and pump stroke contradict 15 kg / hour. The observers twice collected the output, and it was .91 g/s during operation, and still under 2 g/s after it was sped up during quenching. See Robert Lynn's calculations below, with manufacturer and video reference, or just look at the Ny T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

At 09:19 AM 10/11/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: Rossi wrote: 15kg/h here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=20#comment-94236 That's 4.17 g/s -- Lewan recorded  0.9 (stable) and 1.9 (cool-down). I don't think we even know what pump was used (piston? peristaltic) -- it doesn't s

RE: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

Where did they increase? They never went up in the E-Cat, only remained pretty darned steady (pegged to boiling point, slowly decreasing). The only increases were seen in the secondary, and those numbers MUST be wrong, or entire flow in the primary would have been vaporized, and been massively s

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Am 11.10.2011 18:37, schrieb Alan J Fletcher: At 09:19 AM 10/11/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: Rossi wrote: 15kg/h here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=20#comment-94236 That's 4.17 g/s -- Lewan rec

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

At 09:37 AM 10/11/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 09:19 AM 10/11/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: Rossi wrote: 15kg/h here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=20#comment-94236 That's 4.17 g/s -- Lewan recorded  0.9 (stable) and 1.9 (cool-down). I don't think we even know what pum

Re: [Vo]:Considering errors in enthalpy calculations

In the end of demonstration the amount of water was measured from the primary loop output. It was 0.9 g/s and few moments later it was 1.9 g/s. This does not correspond well into water inflow rate that was calibrated before the demo into 13 kg/h or 3.6 g/s. As referring into September test, we can

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Hy Alan, I'm Raymond Zreick, journalist for Focus magazine (Italy). This is my first message in this mailing list. @Alan > I don't think we even know what pump was used (piston? peristaltic) > it doesn't show in any of the videos. peristaltic It is also in the Lewan's technical report. I

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

At 09:51 AM 10/11/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 11.10.2011 18:37, schrieb Alan J Fletcher: At 09:19 AM 10/11/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: Rossi wrote: 15kg/h here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=20#comment-94236 That's 4.17 g/s -- Lewan recorded  0.9 (stable) and 1.9 (co

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Welcome Raymond! Your testimony of Rossi's presentation and opinions will be very valuable to our discussions! 2011/10/11 Raymond Zreick > Hy Alan, I'm Raymond Zreick, journalist for Focus magazine (Italy). This is > my first message in this mailing list. > > > > @Alan > > > I don't think we ev

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

At 10:13 AM 10/11/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: 2011/10/11 Raymond Zreick Hy Alan, I'm Raymond Zreick, journalist for Focus magazine (Italy). This is my first message in this mailing list. Welcome to Vortex !  Some of us are still trying to figure out what happened in the demons

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Peristaltic pump NSF Model # CEP183-362N3 Serial # 060550065 Max output 12.0 liters/h Max press 1.50 bar > > So it was a maximum of 12 l/hr during cool-down, and if we take Lewan's > numbers as a ratio -- 6 l/hr when stable. > > 12l/hr gives a maximum transfer rate of 8.8 kW -- close to the peak 7

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Hy Daniel. @Daniel Rocha > Your testimony of Rossi's presentation and opinions will be very valuable to our discussions! @Alan Fletcher > Some of us are still trying to figure out what happened in the demonstration. It will be good to have first-hand information. Yes, but mine are only im

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

At 10:26 AM 10/11/2011, Robert Lynn wrote: Peristaltic pump NSF Model # CEP183-362N3 Serial # 060550065 Max output 12.0 liters/h Max press 1.50 bar So it was a maximum of 12 l/hr during cool-down, and if we take Lewan's numbers as a ratio -- 6 l/hr when stable. 12l/hr gives a maximum transfe

RE: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

The data from the September test is great, in this aspect. They did it right. They were filling the E-Cat from a reservoir, and after it was boiling, they gave us the net weight of water in the input reservoir at 21:07, then logged every time water was added, and provided us a final weight.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

At 10:59 AM 10/11/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 10:26 AM 10/11/2011, Robert Lynn wrote: Peristaltic pump NSF Model # CEP183-362N3 Serial # 060550065 Max output 12.0 liters/h Max press 1.50 bar So it was a maximum of 12 l/hr during cool-down, and if we take Lewan's numbers as a ratio -- 6 l/hr

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

I'd say that this Demo has been totaly Rossied. ;) On 11 October 2011 19:02, Robert Leguillon wrote: > The data from the September test is great, in this aspect. They did it > right. > They were filling the E-Cat from a reservoir, and after it was boiling, > they gave us the net weight of water

RE: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

I forgot to mention. In the September test, before the pump was hooked up, they measure 15.8 kg/hr (4.38g/s) consumption. Once connected to the E-Cat, it dropped to 13.76 kg/hr (3.8g/s), then at boiling, it dropped to 11.08 kg/hr (3.07g/s). This is just to demonstrate that the pump does not h

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

And you don't know if the water level in the huge reactor reservoir is rising or falling. And you know that there are big problems with the secondary loop calorimetry not remotely matching the primary in the one instance (Mat's walk around video) where we know the primary power. Give up, Rossi ha

[Vo]:Horace Heffner report

At 01:37 AM 10/11/2011, Horace Heffner wrote:  .. In the section : NO HEAT TRANSFER TO HEAT EXCHANGER UNTIL 13:22 19:22: "Measured outflow of primary circuit in heat exchanger, supposedly condensed steam, to be 345 g in 180 seconds, giving a flow of 1.92 g/s. Temperature 23.2 °C." you're usi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

Alan J Fletcher wrote: Rossi wrote: 15kg/h here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=20#comment-94236 That's 4.17 g/s -- Lewan recorded 0.9 (stable) and 1.9 (cool-down). This is why you need ins

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

Robert Leguillon wrote: Where did they increase? They never went up in the E-Cat, only remained pretty darned steady (pegged to boiling point, slowly decreasing). The temperature in the eCat cannot go up because it is boiling water at a little more than 1 atm. It can boil away the water faste

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

I am way behind on reading. I hope this is not redundant. It appears the same pump is being used 6 Oct 2011 as in all the prior tests. See: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3284823.ece I wonder what the 4 pumps are for? Eventually pumping water into the heat exch

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

Am 11.10.2011 21:12, schrieb Horace Heffner: I wonder how a pump with a maximum flow rate of 12 liters/hr could pump 15 liters/hr? Quite often values given in datasheets are not hard limits. Possibly it can do this, but is not specified for this. This would mean it cannot reach the specified pre

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

“As already speculated by a few here, Rossi continues to give me the impression that he operates very much on intuition. Recording scientific data is almost incidental to him, a characteristic I suspect probably drives a few of his colleagues to distraction. “ After watching Rossi for some months

[Vo]:Yes, this was a fiasco, but it was also first principle proof of the claims

Robert Lynn wrote: And you don't know if the water level in the huge reactor reservoir is rising or falling. And you know that there are big problems with the secondary loop calorimetry not remotely matching the primary in the one instance (Mat's walk around video) where we know the primary

RE: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

SVJ responded: "OTOH, to be fair to BLP, it's my understanding that the facility is not financially structured to creating prototypes for industry and consumers. Just proof-of-concept experimental devices that aren't in their own right something that can be commercialized - not without a lot of exp

[Vo]:Rossi: fat-cat architecure

Andrea Rossi October 11th, 2011 at 12:41 PM Dear Gunnar Lindberg: All the box containing the reactor is filled with water. The reactor wafer is cm 20 x 20 x 4 (external dimensions), and to it are welded all the steel wings necessary to exchange all the heat produced inside the reactor. When we

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: fat-cat architecure

Rossi said: The volume free for the water is about 30 liters, so that to fill up it are > necessary about 2 hours ( the pump of the primary circuit pumps about 15 > liters per hour) . . . > This is confusing yet strangely helpful. Didn't he say there are four cells in each reactor box? There are

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this was a fiasco, but it was also first principle proof of the claims

tiistai, 11. lokakuuta 2011 Jed Rothwell kirjoitti: > > It is intensely annoying that Rossi did the test in this ridiculous > manner, forcing us to scramble to try to determine whether > was 2 kW or 6 kW. It had nothing to do with Rossi, but Mats Lewan was the culprit, because he failed to measur

[Vo]:Stremmenos calls Defkalion press release "megalomaniac"

Hi all, Christos Stremmenos, the director (or so) of Defkalion calls the latest press release by Defkalion "megalomaniac" amongst others. Find the link here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360&cpage=23#comment-94994 (hidden in the old blog entry dated January 14th). Regards

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

On 11-10-10 04:35 PM, Robert Leguillon wrote: If someone "Couldn't care less", it means that they care so little that it's impossible for them to care any less than they do right now. If someone "Could care less", it means that they care enough that it's possible to care less. _*Irregardle

Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos calls Defkalion press release "megalomaniac"

Good grief! Here is Google translation: Christos Stremmenos October 11th, 2011 at 11:32 AM By chance I learned of the release of the GT SA Defkalion (Athens 11.10.10) and I feel a moral obligation to act in faith to my convictions have already been made public at the time .. I supported and sti

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this was a fiasco, but it was also first principle proof of the claims

Jouni Valkonen wrote: > It had nothing to do with Rossi, but Mats Lewan was the culprit, because he > failed to measure all the necessary variables. 1. Lewan did the best he could under difficult circumstances. 2. All the necessary variables (parameters) should have been recorded on a compute

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this was a fiasco, but it was also first principle proof of the claims

2011/10/12 Jed Rothwell : > Jouni Valkonen wrote: > >> >> It had nothing to do with Rossi, but Mats Lewan was the culprit, because >> he failed to measure all the necessary variables. > > 1. Lewan did the best he could under difficult circumstances. > 2. All the necessary variables (parameters) sh

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

That was intentional - just keeping you guys on your toes. Irregardless: should be regardless Four corners of the Earth: the earth does not have "four corners" Supposably: should be "SupposeDLy" Commonplaced: should be "commonplace" (no "d") "Stephen A. Lawrence" wrote: > > >On 11-10-10 04:35

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this was a fiasco, but it was also first principle proof of the claims

Jouni Valkonen wrote: > Therefore I do not complain Mats for being incompetent, because I know that > Horace, Jed and me would have failed in similar manner. It is just too easy > to be wise five days after the demonstration. I was wise before the demonstration. It took no great skill, but as

Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos calls Defkalion press release "megalomaniac"

Does Stremmenos not longer belong to Defkalion? He was vice president and chief scientist some time ago.. Am 11.10.2011 23:08, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Good grief! Here is Google translation: Christos Stremmenos October 11th, 2011 at 11:32 AM By chance I learned of the release of the GT SA Defk

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this was a fiasco, but it was also first principle proof of the claims

2011/10/12 Jed Rothwell : > Jouni Valkonen wrote: > >> >> Therefore I do not complain Mats for being incompetent, because I know >> that Horace, Jed and me would have failed in similar manner. It is just too >> easy to be wise five days after the demonstration. > > I was wise before the demonstrat

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this was a fiasco, but it was also first principle proof of the claims

Jouni Valkonen wrote: > But if you do not have such a fancy toys around, then you have to > improvise. . . > Most of the equipment he needed was right there! All he had to do was use it properly. As I said, the Termometro 4 channel TM-947 SD could have recorded the temperatures to a computer. J

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this was a fiasco, but it was also first principle proof of the claims

At 01:51 PM 10/11/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: It had nothing to do with Rossi, but Mats Lewan was the culprit, because he failed to measure all the necessary variables. On the contrary -- Lewan jumped in and RESCUED what we do have. Without him we would have NOTHING except Rossi's eCat temperatu

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this was a fiasco, but it was also first principle proof of the claims

Jouni Valkonen wrote: > I said that the outlet water from > > the heat exchanger should be made available to observers so they could > > independently test the temperature with their own equipment. > > This is of course possible, but is it? 600 kg/h water is lots of water > and it is not trivial

[Vo]:Japan's revised energy plan

See: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Resources/2011/10/05/Japan-takes-steps-to-revise-energy-plan/UPI-61081317835370/#ixzz1aKbhqLE0 The Fukushima accident has had a profound impact. The statements and attitudes in this article would be unthinkable a year ago. Such as: "Headed by Nippon S

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this was a fiasco, but it was also first principle proof of the claims

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > As it happens, I offered to visit him with a team of experts from the second > best technical university in the U.S. to evaluate teh setup and take data. Second best? Harummph! :-) T

Re: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

Hi Mark, Permission to vent granted. Let me reciprocate with a few fissures of my own. Mill's & BLP have often been criticized for giving the appearance of going off in too many directions, and as such, depleting their limited resources. To be honest I don't know how justified such complaints re

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this was a fiasco, but it was also first principle proof of the claims

I wrote: > 1. Put a tap in the hose to draw off samples periodically. To get an > accurate temperature, you draw off 1 L into a Dewar (a thermos bottle), stir > vigorously and insert several thermocouples and thermometers. > Toss out the first liter and fill it again. Maybe put the Dewar into a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: fat-cat architecure

At 01:50 PM 10/11/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Anyway, there are multiple cells and only one cell was in use during this test. I assume each of the 4 cells has its own reservoir, so 30 L / 4 = 7.4 L. That's not my interpretation. The fat-cat is a big tub of overall volume 110 litres. The "wafer"

RE: [Vo]:Stremmenos calls Defkalion press release "megalomaniac"

This is better than a weekly soap-opera! Stay tuned for next week's exciting episode where we'll all learn who's sleeping with who, and who the double-agent is! :-) -mark

Re: [Vo]:Horace Heffner report

On Oct 11, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 01:37 AM 10/11/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: .. In the section : NO HEAT TRANSFER TO HEAT EXCHANGER UNTIL 13:22 19:22: "Measured outflow of primary circuit in heat exchanger, supposedly condensed steam, to be 345 g in 180 seconds,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: fat-cat architecure

In the September report, they drain the water in the E-Cat through the fill port, and 22,400 grams are expelled. This seems to be at or near overflowing, based on the collected water; Also, the E-Cat weighed about a kg more than it started at (this is presumably water retained below the level of

Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos calls Defkalion press release "megalomaniac"

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > Stay tuned for next week's exciting episode where we'll all learn who's > sleeping with who . . . " . . . sleeping with whom . . ." T, prez narcissist society :-)

Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos calls Defkalion press release "megalomaniac"

Hi, On 12-10-2011 1:00, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: This is better than a weekly soap-opera! Stay tuned for next week's exciting episode where we'll all learn who's sleeping with who, and who the double-agent is! :-) -mark Those were the days, with the Campbells and the Tates. MoB //

[Vo]:Water meters

Does anyone know what units are displayed on the odometer type display and sweep hands on the water meters used? It says m^3 on the face, and the dials have x0.1, x 0.01, x0.001 and one with a value I can't read but assume is x0.0001. No instrument specs were provided. At the top it looks

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: fat-cat architecure

On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 01:50 PM 10/11/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Anyway, there are multiple cells and only one cell was in use during this test. I assume each of the 4 cells has its own reservoir, so 30 L / 4 = 7.4 L. That's not my interpretation. The fat-c

[Vo]:pictures, data, analysis of July 7 test of fatCat

On Oct.6th Passerini posted info and pics on his blog of the July 7th test with Stremmenos. http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/10/test-e-cat-7-luglio-2011.html You can see two fat eCats wrapped in black insulation. Evidently the fat eCat has been around since atleast the beginning of July. This e

Re: [Vo]:pictures, data, analysis of July 7 test of fatCat

On Oct 11, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Oct.6th Passerini posted info and pics on his blog of the July 7th test with Stremmenos. http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/10/test-e-cat-7-luglio-2011.html You can see two fat eCats wrapped in black insulation. Evidently the fat eCat has be

Re: [Vo]:pictures, data, analysis of July 7 test of fatCat

I may be wrong but it looks like those 2 boxes are connected to the Bianchini's gamma ray detector. Could they be part of Bianchini's instrument set ? Regards Andrea 2011/10/12 Horace Heffner > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > On Oct.6th Passerini posted info and pics on

[Vo]:More calcs.

My review of the Rossi 7 Oct 2011 experiment has been updated. http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Rossi6Oct2011Review.pdf Also, the following sections were added: VOLUME CALCULATIONS The Lewan report says: "The E-cat model used in this test was enclosed in a casing measuring about 50 x 60

[Vo]:T2 thermocouple anomalies

The various anomalies associated with the T2 thermocouple, like its disconnect from the Pout, may be explained by the close distance, a few cm, of the internal fins to the lid. The T2 thermocouple rod, which protrudes down through a fitting in the lid, may be long enough to reach the fins.

Aw: [Vo]:T2 thermocouple anomalies

- Original Nachricht Von: Horace Heffner An: Vortex-L Datum: 12.10.2011 08:31 Betreff: [Vo]:T2 thermocouple anomalies > The various anomalies associated with the T2 thermocouple, like its > disconnect from the Pout, may be explained by the close distance, a > few cm,