Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-05 Thread pagnucco
I am not sure which, if any, nickel isotopes admit isomeric states. Perhaps, electrodes, container walls, or contaminants in nickel (or palladium) could be the source of some yet unidentified isomers. I am quite perplexed that isomeric-65Fe went undetected for so long. Perhaps others have also es

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-05 Thread mixent
In reply to pagnu...@htdconnect.com's message of Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:35:00 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] >Probably, Robin, but the relatively recent discovery of the 65Fe isomer >(which likely has been lurking in the universe for a long time) makes me >wonder if other long-lived isomers have escaped atte

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Nickel enrichment : is a liquid-phase Calutron possible?

2011-11-05 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:06:41 +1100: Hi, [snip] >*IMO* Rossi just said that enrichment took place to throw others off the trail, >and because he had only just discovered that reactions with isotopes other than >Ni62 & Ni64 produce gammas which can't be easil

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Nickel enrichment : is a liquid-phase Calutron possible?

2011-11-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Berke Durak's message of Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:03:31 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Robin van Spaandonk wrote: > >> So why bother enriching at all? > >Rossi himself stated that the fuel is enriched, and that the energy >cost for enriching >it for a 1 MW set of reactor is (only!) 200 W.h. > >By analog

Re: [Vo]:Krivit's transcript of Rossi's "Ah Ha" moment, a cheap shot. (Part 2 of 2)

2011-11-05 Thread Man on Bridges
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Re: [Vo]:Krivit's transcript of Rossi's "Ah Ha" moment, a cheap shot. (Part 2 of 2)

2011-11-05 Thread Rich Murray
You gave me a clear understanding about Krivit's errors in his descriptions of Rossi and his huge demo -- thanks. I support public honesty about one's own explorations, handicaps, setbacks, failings, failures, previous stages of development, regrets, lessons hard and slowly learned, and positive t

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-05 Thread pagnucco
Probably, Robin, but the relatively recent discovery of the 65Fe isomer (which likely has been lurking in the universe for a long time) makes me wonder if other long-lived isomers have escaped attention, and written off as statistical errors in mass measurements. Coaxing 1 gram of 65Fe to ground s

[Vo]:Krivit's transcript of Rossi's "Ah Ha" moment, a cheap shot. (Part 2 of 2)

2011-11-05 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
When I read accounts about Rossi's quirky behavior, his alleged faults and past transgressions, I immediately find myself thinking of a few faults of my own. There by the grace of god go I. For example, my own command of the English language, my speech can occasionally be filled with haltin

[Vo]:Krivit's transcript of Rossi's "Ah Ha" moment, a cheap shot. (Part 1 of 2)

2011-11-05 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
In reference to Mr. Krivit's Oct 30 blog: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/ Before I embark on what I perceive to have been a deliberate exploitation of Rossi's broken English I want to briefly focus on Krivit's self-perceived powers of prediction. Krivit states: > As I predicted on Thurs

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Nickel enrichment : is a liquid-phase Calutron possible?

2011-11-05 Thread Berke Durak
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: > So why bother enriching at all? Rossi himself stated that the fuel is enriched, and that the energy cost for enriching it for a 1 MW set of reactor is (only!) 200 W.h. By analogy with classical Uranium nuclear reactors, I can only assume that the reactive isotope rat

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Nickel enrichment : is a liquid-phase Calutron possible?

2011-11-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Berke Durak's message of Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:06:25 -0400: Hi, [snip] If the assumption is that Ni64 is the only isotope that is reacting, then clearly the reaction itself is already selective of that isotope. So why bother enriching at all? Just use native Ni, and let the reaction itse

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on IRH

2011-11-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:03:06 -0400: Hi, [snip] >IRH sounds like an atomic version of a geocentric solar system. Indeed! :) > >Harry > >On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 5:47 PM, wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It just occurred to me that in IRH the proton is revolving very fast arou

Re: [Vo]:wiki entry survived a deletion request

2011-11-05 Thread Man on Bridges
Hi, On 5-11-2011 2:50, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is an interesting comment in the Wikipedia discussion from someone who claims he or she was present at the Oct. 6 test. Does anyone know what "kettle stone" means? Deposits from evaporated water? ... --Kv1970 A couple of remarks: 1: Kettle ston

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on IRH

2011-11-05 Thread Harry Veeder
IRH sounds like an atomic version of a geocentric solar system. Harry On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 5:47 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > It just occurred to me that in IRH the proton is revolving very fast around > the > electron. The back of an envelope yields a kinetic energy of 291 eV. With that > amount of

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Danny Ross Lunsford's message of Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:33:53 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >This is sort of what seems most natural to me. Something is happening on >either side of NI62, and it gets into a cyclic state - once in a while by the >magic of QM it overshoots and you get copper, or

[Vo]:Thoughts on IRH

2011-11-05 Thread mixent
Hi, It just occurred to me that in IRH the proton is revolving very fast around the electron. The back of an envelope yields a kinetic energy of 291 eV. With that amount of kinetic energy, and at that orbital frequency, it may have a chance of tunneling into another nucleus in a reasonable time, p

Re: [Vo]:U. Bologna press office statement

2011-11-05 Thread Terry Blanton
I guess they haven't gotten their check yet. T

[Vo]:U. Bologna press office statement

2011-11-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
This statement has been added to some of the articles on Rossi, such as the Daily Mail one. I assume it is really from the press office. It sounds like it: The University of Bologna is not involved on E-Cat experiments conducted by Leonardo Corp., the company owned by Andrea Rossi. The University

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 05.11.2011 16:49, schrieb David Roberson: Peter, I must go now, but will answer your questions later. Do you think Rossi is referring to water at 20 mm? Some would refer to mercury He explicitely wrote water column in his forum.

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread Peter Heckert
Rossi could have a splitted conciousness. One part of his brain constructs master-scams and the other part thinks this are divine revelations from upper regions and build the devices without understanding and believes the results ;-) Stuff like this does happen. He does too often give impossib

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread David Roberson
I agree he does act strange. That seems to be his personality. We all have our quirks. I would love for him to do as you suggest, but he does not do things to suit either you or I. There are holes to pick in every experiment ever conducted as far as I know. We need to have a reasonable lev

Re: [Vo]:How to post this on Krivit's Forum? Some Thoughts about Rossi.

2011-11-05 Thread ecat builder
Asking about the heat from the dissipaters is a reasonable question. Why don't you email some of the people who attended the Oct 28 demo with a few questions? I emailed Mats and will reply here with any response. You can even ask Rossi on his forum--he is gracious with his responses to polite (hint

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread David Roberson
Peter, I must go now, but will answer your questions later. Do you think Rossi is referring to water at 20 mm? Some would refer to mercury Dave -Original Message- From: Peter Heckert To: vortex-l Sent: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 11:38 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's pe

[Vo]: More ECAT Gold

2011-11-05 Thread David Roberson
I have completed my review of the data collected during the October 6 test of the self sustaining ECAT. This has been an interesting endeavor that has convinced me that Rossi actually has achieved his goal. There is still gold hidden within the graph of T2 versus Time, but I will leave that

Re: [Vo]:Did anyone hear about Miley's Pd-Zr results?

2011-11-05 Thread David Roberson
That is excellent news Jed. Supporting evidence is beginning to come forward now that Rossi has began to convince the world that this "Cold Fusion" stuff might be possible after all. I wonder how long these new revelations would have remained hidden from view had Rossi not cracked open the do

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread Vorl Bek
> > You have got to be kidding- I was. But anything Rossi shows will be objected to, and holes will be picked in it, and they should be. He could long ago have had independent labs test a small ecat; why didn't he? He comes across as someone who is deluded or is a conman.

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 05.11.2011 16:23, schrieb David Roberson: Dear Peter, Rossi did not specify whether the 20 mm was absolute or above atmospheric. Of course yes. At 20mm absolute pressure the water would evaporate by ambient heat ;-) It is obvious that it is above atmospheric. This pressure is required to f

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread David Roberson
Dear Peter, Rossi did not specify whether the 20 mm was absolute or above atmospheric. It is obvious that it is above atmospheric. This pressure is required to force the water through the dissipaters and into the open bin. And yes, the pumps do indirectly force the water back to the bin. Th

Re: [Vo]:Did anyone hear about Miley's Pd-Zr results?

2011-11-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Miley says the results with 100 to 300 W are new. He has not had time to update the slides with these results. I hope to get more details from him next week. I will report them here. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread David Roberson
You have got to be kidding- Dave -Original Message- From: Vorl Bek To: vortex-l Sent: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 10:46 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: > I have delivered a perfect explanation how to

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 05.11.2011 15:31, schrieb Terry Blanton: On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: I have delivered a perfect explanation how to fake the energy (sucking water out by vacuum and a hidden switch that activates the heater when nobody watches the power) and you consistently ignore

Re: [Vo]:How to post this on Krivit's Forum? Some Thoughts about Rossi.

2011-11-05 Thread David Roberson
Peter, Maybe you inability to post on Krivit's forum is a message for you to heed. I have posted on that one before (forgive me for I have sinned), and sometimes weeks go by before it is open for new posts. One day you will realize that you are mistaken about Rossi and will come home to vor

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Vorl Bek wrote: > Rossi could have had an extra, secret, load engaged all the time. > When he flicked the switch to 'off', the secret load was > disconnected, leaving the rest of the load, including the ecats. A 1/2 megaWatt resistive load is somewhat difficult t

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread Vorl Bek
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Peter Heckert > wrote: > > > I have delivered a perfect explanation how  to fake the energy > > (sucking water out by vacuum and a hidden switch that > > activates the heater when nobody watches the power) and you > > consistently ignore it or you make up weak ex

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: > I have delivered a perfect explanation how  to fake the energy (sucking > water out by vacuum and a hidden switch that activates the heater when > nobody watches the power) and you consistently ignore it or you make up weak > excuses to expla

Re: [Vo]:How to post this on Krivit's Forum? Some Thoughts about Rossi.

2011-11-05 Thread Vorl Bek
> Hi, > > as many might have noticed I have changed sides and now want to > post on Krivits forum. > This will reduce traffic here. ;-) > I did however not find a way to post, no thread has a reply box > like in other forums. > How is this done? I don't know, but you could post on ecatnews.com.

[Vo]:How to post this on Krivit's Forum? Some Thoughts about Rossi.

2011-11-05 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi, as many might have noticed I have changed sides and now want to post on Krivits forum. This will reduce traffic here. ;-) I did however not find a way to post, no thread has a reply box like in other forums. How is this done? I wanted to post this: ==

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

2011-11-05 Thread Peter Heckert
You forget that not all ancient scientists and craftmans where geniuses. Most of them where not. Quack. fraud and absolutel strange and wrong theories and false explanations where everywhere. They kept everything secret (as Rossi does) and didnt collaborate but competed (as Rossi does). I have