Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

It means don't be surprised if he is no longer working with them 6-12 months from now. harry On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Rossi has said this theory work is being done by others. What does this have > to do with National Instruments who are working with Rossi and hi

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > The problem was due to a cached web page from Rossi's site. I deleted the > browser cache on both systems and the ads went away. With Chrome, I turn off caching. It only slightly slows operation. Caching was important with 56 kbps modems.

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

It is certainly true that the peak occurs in a region that immediately follows the highest temperature obtained within the heat storage medium. The part that is anomalous is the fact that the bump I referred to at 16:00 is of relatively short duration while the temperature fall off curve from

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Rossi has said this theory work is being done by others. What does this have > to do with National Instruments who are working with Rossi and his 1st > customer to implement a better control system for the 1 MW E-Cat plants? I > would sug

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on 1 MW E-Cat energy density

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: >   c- presently we are heating a factory of ours with our E-Cats. >   Warm Regards, Good! People made fun of them walking around in coats during previous tests. Maybe they will wear shorts and pith helmets next. Not intended as sarcasm

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

The problem was due to a cached web page from Rossi's site. I deleted the browser cache on both systems and the ads went away. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

[Vo]:NOT, OT or nOT, anyway possible interesting stuff

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[Vo]:Re: Rossi comments on 1 MW E-Cat energy density

Lewan said the reactor core assembly was 20 x 20 x 1 cm and was encased in a 5 cm thick lead slab. As Rossi has said the E-Cat reactor is shielded by 2 cm of lead, it all fits. A unshielded 20 x 20 x 1 cm reactor core assembly, with 3 reactor cores inside, would end up being 24 x 24 x 5 cm when

[Vo]:Re: Rossi comments on 1 MW E-Cat energy density

So Rossi is saying the volume of the reactor assembly minus the fins and water tank is 0.318 m^3 / 106 E-Cats = 3,000 cm^3 per E-Cat module. Based on the reactor assembly being 5 cm thick, as Lewan stated, I get the other dimensions as 24.5 x 24.5 cm which agrees with other statements and would

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL: Best way to advocate REVISTED and question

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Ruby wrote: > > 1. Jed, I won't make a stink with the Navy. I do not want trouble for the > lone woman researcher in this field. However, if a stink *does* need > raising, just say the word. > Question: Is there another female cold fusion scientist? > Are you c

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Rossi has said this theory work is being done by others. What does this have to do with National Instruments who are working with Rossi and his 1st customer to implement a better control system for the 1 MW E-Cat plants? I would suggest the goal is self sustained E-Cat operation, over a wide po

[Vo]:POLITICAL: Best way to advocate REVISTED and question

Thank you for the suggestions on the earlier thread. I get a digest and must learn how to Reply to a thread. Before the discussion veered, the best way to advocate was listed (if I didn't miss any): 1. do not make a stink with the Navy 2. inform journalists what is up 3. buy a unit 1. Jed, I

[Vo]:Rossi comments on 1 MW E-Cat energy density

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=39#comment-155427 * Andrea Rossi December 23rd, 2011 at 11:37 AM Dear Alby: I never banned you. Probably your comment has been spammed by the robo

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Earlier this year Rossi made similar glowing remarks about the professors from Uppsala University. Is he working with them today? No. Harry On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516&cpage=15#comment-155608 > >  * >   Andrea Rossi

[Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516&cpage=15#comment-155608 * Andrea Rossi December 23rd, 2011 at 5:04 PM Dear Jan Srajer: National Instruments is the best Partner a manufacturer of plants of

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > It is not sufficient evidence, but it still can be interpreted as > evidence of nuclear reactions. > I don't agree. Not if the heat is coming from a 100 kg device that we're not allowed to inspect. If it were heat + commensurate radiation

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

Another secret contact! Why can't your friend create a throwaway hotmail account like anyone else? On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:27, Mary Yugo wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:37 AM, David Roberson wrote: > Hello Mary, > > I wonder if you could ask your source to explain the bump in the curve >

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

At 04:35 PM 12/23/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Some is avoidable, some not. The problem is less with doctors and nurses than it is with aides of various types, janitors, food workers, and all the other less educated hospital staff. 5 google clicks seems to disprove your hypothesis. eg http://www.s

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

Horace, It's something related to cookies. Do clean all those related to mail-archive.com. Ads should disappear then. mic 2011/12/24 Harry Veeder : > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Horace Heffner > wrote: >> >> Are you seeing the ads?  Especially on: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

At 04:35 PM 12/23/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Some is avoidable, some not. The problem is less with doctors and nurses than it is with aides of various types, janitors, food workers, and all the other less educated hospital staff. Hospital Infections: Preventable and Unacceptable WSJ 2008 : http:

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Some is avoidable, some not. The problem is less with doctors and nurses than it is with aides of various types, janitors, food workers, and all the other less educated hospital staff. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > At 04:22 PM 12/23/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: > >> Ah...

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

At 04:22 PM 12/23/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Ah... but you see, not every infection in a hospital is preventable, even with the most meticulous technique. While a few doctors are slobs and a few hospital are trash pits, most in the US are not. People get infections from their relatives and visito

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Read history. Learn something. Don't ask ignorant questions. I uploaded > 1,200 papers for a reason, so that people can learn things. Don't ask me to > spoon-feed you every morsel of information. Do your own damn homework. > What a ridicul

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate? 17C London

17th Century London : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070102/Royal-Society-exhibition-John-Graunts-1679-medical-stats-reveal-Londoners-causes-death.html http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/05/article-0-0F0E28C60578-628_964x1085.jpg Consumption and Cough is in the lead, at 44,487

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Alan J Fletcher wrote: > > >> Of course, Jed was 13 short of "hundreds of thousands" -- but that's just >> Hospitals. Add in nursing hoems,clinics, doctor's offices >> > > Hey, I was just an order of magnitude low. I always say, what's

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:13 PM, David Roberson wrote: > The curve I was referring to is the T2(mis) curve. There is a well > defined bump that peaks at 16:00 time. This is one of the curves of the > actual ECAT measurement and I was looking to see if your > source demonstrated anything resemb

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Look, they did not "try" -- they succeeded! [...] > > WHO tried to stop P&F's first efforts? HOW did they do it? >> > > > So, you say cold fusion research was stopped. It has produced nothing. $200 million spent (Nagel's estimate) and t

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > > Are you seeing the ads?  Especially on: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59132.html > > I am seeing the ads on both a Mac G5 running IBM RISC chips using Safari, > and an Intel based Win 7 system using I.E.  It is ver

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

The problem may have started when I clocked on the link at the bottom of my December 17th, 2011 at 12:43 AM post here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=179 I get the ads no matter how I reference the link: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59132.html Best regard

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: >> >>  A >> plausible method of fakery is not evidence of fakery. >> > > > Obviously not. But heat, by itself, is not evidence of a nuclear reaction, > if the same heat can be plausibly

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Jed Rothwell says: > Do you think OPEC and Big Coal will be > thrilled? You think they will roll over and play dead? They will > demand that it be banned. And when the Chinese and Japanese and everybody with a brain starts churning out ecats, will Big Coal knock on their door and demand that they

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: Are you seeing the ads? Especially on: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59132.html I am seeing the ads on both a Mac G5 running IBM RISC chips using Safari, and

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: Are you seeing the ads? Especially on: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59132.html I am seeing the ads on both a Mac G5 running IBM RISC chips using Safari, and

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > >> Such a thing would be more revolutionary and would gain faster acceptance >> and more interest than anything done in the last hundred years. >> > > If you believe that, you do not know the first thing about the histor

Re: [Vo]: NOT = NOT off topic, 2.188 = 2*1.094

Mills says the hydrogen atom has 1 unit of angular momentum m*v*r at all orbit states from n = 1/137.0599 to n = infiity though around the spin axis, it has 1/2 unit of angular momentum, with the other 1/2 unit of the angular momentum spread out on other axis. this is why the hydrogen atom is sa

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Zell, Chris wrote: > Or perhaps you could speak with minor officials in Florida who > were documenting fraud by Too Big To Fail banks - until their superior told > them that their services were no longer required... and afterward have NO > ONE got to jail for what could be the greatest document

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Mary Yugo wrote: > I am really curious: who do you think tried to stop F&F . . . > Oh for crying out loud. "Tried to stop"? Really?!? Look, they did not "try" -- they succeeded! I know exactly who they are. Everyone knows who they are! I have met the leading members of the opposition, several

RE: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

I have to feel stunned by the naivete of some of you. Major corporations are entirely capable of murder or theft. I suggest you read up on John Perkins and his book "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" in which he cites various "coincidences" of third world leaders who "met with an accident" aft

Re: [Vo]: NOT = NOT off topic, 2.188 = 2*1.094

Its sort of like angular momentum. (Mvr) Planck's constant of angular momentum is centered around both. The difference is its the Compton frequency times length. -Original Message- From: mixent To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:13 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]: NOT = NOT off topic, 2.18

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Alan J Fletcher wrote: > Of course, Jed was 13 short of "hundreds of thousands" -- but that's just > Hospitals. Add in nursing hoems,clinics, doctor's offices > Hey, I was just an order of magnitude low. I always say, what's an order of magnitude among friends? In my experience, doctors a

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Alan J Fletcher wrote: > Aseptic technique may be imperfect in many places but hundreds of > thousands of death due to negligence? Cite please. And not some whacko > website, please. > > > http://www.safepatientproject.org/2007/05/cdc_publishes_sobering_stats_o.html > In a newly released study

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

At 02:53 PM 12/23/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 02:44 PM 12/23/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Aseptic technique may be imperfect in many places but hundreds of thousands of death due to negligence?  Cite please.  And not some whacko website, please. http://www.safepatientproject.org/2007/05/cdc_publis

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

I get no ads here: http://awesomescreenshot.com/0d7qppz88 mic 2011/12/23 Terry Blanton : > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Horace Heffner > wrote: > >> Are you seeing the ads?  Especially on: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59132.html >> >> I am seeing the ads on bot

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

At 02:44 PM 12/23/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Aseptic technique may be imperfect in many places but hundreds of thousands of death due to negligence?  Cite please.  And not some whacko website, please. http://www.safepatientproject.org/2007/05/cdc_publishes_sobering_stats_o.html In a newly released

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Mary Yugo wrote: > You insist on comparing a supposed cold fusion/LENR robust power power > plant to Netflix, IBM, and Edison. But that's silly. > Because I believe the effect is real. Naturally, you do not think so because you do not think it is real. You have to imagine my point of view bas

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> Mary Yugo wrote: >> >> >>> That is the ultimate in silliness. If anyone develops a robust example >>> of cold fusion/LENR power generation, it will sell world wide better than >>> h

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > >> That is the ultimate in silliness. If anyone develops a robust example >> of cold fusion/LENR power generation, it will sell world wide better than >> hotcakes with strawberry syrup and whipped cream on top ever did.

RE: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Jed sez: ... > It is just a matter of paying a bigger bribe. This is how US > industry has worked since 1865, and the building of the > transcontinental railroad. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I have no choice but to do both. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.Orio

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Even today, doctors in the US kill hundreds of thousands of patients every > year because they do not bother to wash their hands or sterilize properly. > They are not ignorant. They are lazy, unprofessional and uncaring, plus > they do not

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Mary Yugo wrote: > That is the ultimate in silliness. If anyone develops a robust example of > cold fusion/LENR power generation, it will sell world wide better than > hotcakes with strawberry syrup and whipped cream on top ever did. NOTHING > -- not regulation, oil interests, governments, or

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

At 07:10 AM 12/23/2011, Yram Oguy wrote: Ha! Your cleverly disguised name is a FAKE. Your REAL name is Yra M. O'Guy so .. BUSTED !

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:13 PM, David Roberson wrote: > The curve I was referring to is the T2(mis) curve. There is a well > defined bump that peaks at 16:00 time. This is one of the curves of the > actual ECAT measurement and I was looking to see if your > source demonstrated anything resemb

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > You can say their strategy is stupid, or it will probably fail for thus > and such reason, or that you would do things differently. But the notion > that it has to be "justified" by your standards -- or by some universal > standard -- is ri

Re: [Vo]: NOT = NOT off topic, 2.188 = 2*1.094

In reply to fznidar...@aol.com's message of Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:47:56 -0500 (EST): Hi Frank, [snip] Is this angular velocity of the electron about it's own center, or centered on something else (e.g. the nucleus)? >That's I problem I have also. I have found that the angular velocity of the >el

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > You do not know what you are talking about. > Well, that's a good argument. > So you ARE going to buy a 1 MW reactor?!? I am astounded. > I am not buying a leaky claptrap collection of 100 or so badly assembled, messy looking kludges h

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

I wrote: > Rossi is instead employing passive-tactics indirectly... >> > > The Allies knew the Germans thought this, so they conducted "Operation > Fortitude" to reinforce that expectation. > The point I was trying to make, and forgot to make, is that deception is often passive. You persuade yo

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:52 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > I If you were a competitor, such as someone with affiliations with the > fossil fuel industry, a mega-industry that obviously wouldn't want Rossi's > eCats to survive, if one of those individual

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

The curve I was referring to is the T2(mis) curve. There is a well defined bump that peaks at 16:00 time. This is one of the curves of the actual ECAT measurement and I was looking to see if your source demonstrated anything resembling it. I was expecting to see a reason that the model did

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > Are you seeing the ads?  Especially on: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59132.html > > I am seeing the ads on both a Mac G5 running IBM RISC chips using Safari, > and an Intel based Win 7 system using I.E.  It is very

RE: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

>From Harry: > I suspect he does not want to take the risk of an independently > tested ecat behaving erractically. He fears the published results > would make his commercial promises look silly, even if the basic > energy producing claims are validated. >From Jed: > That's an intere

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Mary Yugo wrote: > > Rossi and Defkalion have been jerking well meaning and interested people > around by the thousands (or more) for the better part of the year and all > you can do is come up with ridiculous explanations and defenses for these > people? > You call this a defense?!? I am saying

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Mary Yugo wrote: > Dreadful example. Nobody doubted for an instant that a plug in Prius was > coming soon. > Soon? How soon? What was coming? Toyota introduced it ahead of schedule, after downplaying expectations and withholding specifications. That ploy is often used in industry. > And

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > That's an interesting idea. Good point. I doubt he fears this, but he > might. > Rossi and Defkalion have been jerking well meaning and interested people around by the thousands (or more) for the better part of the year and all you can do

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > It's all in the eye of the beholder. The point I think you gloss over is > the apparent fact that Rossi is not deliberately (or overtly) "...acting in > a way that suggests investor fraud." Rossi is instead employing > passive-tactics indirectly... th

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I wrote: > > >> Can you think of a recent spectacular innovation that has been marketed >>> by deliberately acting in a way that suggests it can't and doesn't work? >> >> >> Toyota's plug in Prius. Toyota kept saying existing model is not des

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:21 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > It's all in the eye of the beholder. The point I think you gloss over is > the apparent fact that Rossi is not deliberately (or overtly) "...acting in > a way that suggests investor fraud." Ros

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: I guess you have some spyware infesting your system... Certainly possible but another explanation is that it's a leftover popup or popunder from another window in your browser -- perha

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

I wrote: > Can you think of a recent spectacular innovation that has been marketed by >> deliberately acting in a way that suggests it can't and doesn't work? > > > Toyota's plug in Prius. Toyota kept saying existing model is not designed > for plug-in mode; they do not recommend it; it will take

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:37 AM, David Roberson wrote: > > I wonder if you could ask your source to explain the bump in the curve > that occurs at 16:00 on the second chart? It looks like this is not > demonstrated in any of his curves. The bump is in the temperature of the > ECAT water bath T2

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: >> >> In Rossi's case, trying to maintain a "low profile" is a delicate business >> tactic that has limited shelf life. > > Yup. It is a delaying tactic. > > >> [This] will fall apart as the technolo

RE: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

>From Mary Yugo: > Can you think of a recent spectacular innovation that has > been marketed by deliberately acting in a way that suggests > it can't and doesn't work? By acting in a way that > suggests investor fraud? It's all in the eye of the beholder. The point I think you gloss

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

Terry Blanton wrote: > Which denies still that the original formula contained cocaine (last > time I visited there). > That's silly. It was common knowledge they used it. They advertised it! There is no doubt they still use denatured leaves. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Company -

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion : factory location

Well, If they want to be consistent with their statement that they would warm up the Police Academy they need to have an industrial facility quite close to it. There are not many other buildings that qualify. Giovanni On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > At 08:25 PM 12/20/2

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Mary Yugo wrote: > Can you think of a recent spectacular innovation that has been marketed by > deliberately acting in a way that suggests it can't and doesn't work? Toyota's plug in Prius. Toyota kept saying existing model is not designed for plug-in mode; they do not recommend it; it will ta

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > A > plausible method of fakery is not evidence of fakery. > > Obviously not. But heat, by itself, is not evidence of a nuclear reaction, if the same heat can be plausibly produced without nuclear reactions. Similarly, if I claimed to have

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > I guess you have some spyware infesting your system... > Certainly possible but another explanation is that it's a leftover popup or popunder from another window in your browser -- perhaps one you just closed. I've seen the phenomenon occa

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > >> In Rossi's case, trying to maintain a "low profile" is a delicate >> business tactic that has limited shelf life. >> > Yup. It is a delaying tactic. > Can you think of a recent spectacular inn

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

I guess you have some spyware infesting your system... 2011/12/23 Horace Heffner > I get ads just below the title data and time, and in the right margin. I > am using Safari on a Mac. I also get the adds on Internet explorer on Win > 7. I don't get the adds on other archive links I have checke

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > In Rossi's case, trying to maintain a "low profile" is a delicate business > tactic that has limited shelf life. > Yup. It is a delaying tactic. [This] will fall apart as the technology essentially validates itself via > through normal market conditi

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

I get ads just below the title data and time, and in the right margin. I am using Safari on a Mac. I also get the adds on Internet explorer on Win 7. I don't get the adds on other archive links I have checked. On Dec 23, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: I cannot see ads... 2011/1

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

I cannot see ads... 2011/12/23 Horace Heffner > This archive URL appears to produce ads: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/**vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59132.**html > > Best regards, > > Horace Heffner > http://www.mtaonline.net/~**hheffne

RE: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

>From Jed: ... > I am pretty sure the reason is because he wants to keep a low > profile. He wants enough people to believe it is real to attract > customers, but not so many that it attracts competition or > attention from the authorities. He does not want the DoE to > think it is real

[Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

This archive URL appears to produce ads: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59132.html Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Continuing the discussion of the mathematical modeling proposed for the > October 6 experiment, my informant, who still prefers to remain anonymous, > remarked that the examples suggested by Jed and others (nails, anvils and > the like) are not c

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:37 AM, David Roberson wrote: > Hello Mary, > > I wonder if you could ask your source to explain the bump in the curve > Done, thanks.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

Michele, That means we agree. Thanks. I also wish you Merry Christmas and all well. We will toast with wine, local bought from the producer. Red. A good opportunity to express my admiration for the high quality of Italian wines- have visited Italy in September (Siena, Firenze, Pisa) and we were si

Re: [Vo]: Cosmic Trigger?

It is possible to both manipulate and respond to electromagnetic radiation just by ajusting the shape and number of a collection of atoms. To understand this, consider the properties of a newly developed tool of quantum mechanics called Quantum dots. Quantum dots are very, very tiny particles

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

Peter, Coke is an industrial drink, excellent but still no "soul". Beer is artist's work and drinking dark beer as they brew it in your country is the proof of Benjamin Franklin's words. Marry Christmas and toast (with beer of course)! Il giorno 23/dic/2011 16:17, "Peter Gluck" ha scritto: >

[Vo]:Lissajous > rotating helix > "screw like"

Robin, >> Does not a 'screw-like' motion mesh with a Lissajous? or are you backing off >> of >>that? > I guess it depends on how you define "screw like". The Lissajous model at > it's >simplest depends on an oscillation and a rotation, whereas a "screw like" >motion >depends on two rotatio

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Energy Liberator wrote: I can see the reasoning behind that but what baffles me is if that is the case then why even set up in the US? Because he like the U.S. He likes being here. And he had terrible experiences in Italy. There is a lot to like about the U.S. despite the DoE. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

Well, if you really want to find out the secret ingredients, it's a lot more accessible now that the formula has been moved to the Coco-cola Museum just this month: http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2011/12/08/coke-formula-moved-to-world-of-coke.html Which denies still that the original for

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

On 23/12/11 14:40, Jed Rothwell wrote: I am pretty sure the reason is because he wants to keep a low profile. He wants enough people to believe it is real to attract customers, but not so many that it attracts competition or attention from the authorities. He does not want the DoE to think it

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

The Coca Cola secret is just a sales gimmick. I am sure taste tests would show that people could not tell the difference between the real coke and imitations made in a lab. The trick is to have people believe that it is unique. Dave -Original Message- From: Peter Gluck To: vortex-

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

He might just be attempting to keep others from trying to duplicate his device. Dave -Original Message- From: Peter Gluck To: VORTEX Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:25 am Subject: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist Alig 2004 hasa asked: You said that anybody can buy a 1Mw plant. Are you not af

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

Hello Mary, I wonder if you could ask your source to explain the bump in the curve that occurs at 16:00 on the second chart? It looks like this is not demonstrated in any of his curves. The bump is in the temperature of the ECAT water bath T2 and is very distinct. Dave -Original M

RE: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

>From Aussie: > Had anybody successfully reverse engineered the formula and > process to make Coca Cola? No coke... pepsi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_b9XwloHE Definitely sweeter. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

Michele, I don't know if I understand you exactly but a good beer (the proof that God loves us) is a noble drink, I am angry that in one of my favorite TV series- "Do you rang, mylord?" black beer is considered a proletarian drink. Being a chemical engineer I know well some beer factories and tech

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

I have a model that shows that a few dozen kilograms of Mary Yugo, well placed around the vortex list, would be able to self sustain flooding for days... I feel sorry i can't provide any data analysis right now as i am actually filling a patent to protect my secret catalyst ('JR', don't tell), but

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

> My hypertension is hypersensitive to Coca Cola so i do not dare to drink it > any more. Romanian or Czech black beer is excellent so I don't care. > I bet you don't care. The comparison is not fair: it's like comparing a picture with a Brandl painting. mic

Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Had anybody successfully reverse engineered the formula and process to make > Coca Cola? All soft drink manufacturers make cola drinks that most customers find indistinguishable from Coca-Cola. In blind taste tests most people cannot tell the difference. Chemists can ea

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