[Vo]:[Vo] X-rays in LENR

2015-12-28 Thread Alain Sepeda
Lou Pagnuco on LENR-Forum found an arxiv paper. do you think it have connection ? I see also connections with Hydroton's theory... http://arxiv.org/pdf/1512.08504v1.pdf "X-ray laser pulses from solids" ABSTRACT: In experiments on irradiation of metal surfaces by ions of keV energy, X-ray laser r

Re: [Vo]:Direct power from E-Cat X

2015-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
There have been various claims of direct production of electricity from cold fusion over the years. Nothing definitive or independently replicated as far as I recall, but anyway, Rossi is not the first to claim this. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Eric Walker
Hi Bob, Your experience in the nuclear energy sector is no doubt relevant here. On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Bob Cook wrote: My experience is that any fast charged particles creates x-rays which would > be observed and correlated with the ejection of electrons from the inner > electron shel

[Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Bob Cook
For what its worth, I agree with the implication David has made relative to fast protons or alphas. My experience is that any fast charged particles creates x-rays which would be observed and correlated with the ejection of electrons from the inner electron shells of atoms. Also, if there are

Re: [Vo]:Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: Piantelli's measurement of the Ni-H reaction shows prompt charged high > energy protons. > Indeed. As well as "heavy particles" (my vote: alphas) [1]. In saying that little in the way of prompt charged particles has been observed I am close t

Re: [Vo]:Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Bob Higgins
Piantelli's measurement of the Ni-H reaction shows prompt charged high energy protons. On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Eric Walker wrote: > > It is true that little in the way of prompt charged particles have been > observed in LENR. But that says little about what Rossi may be seeing. > > Eric

Re: [Vo]:The E-Cat Patent. How?

2015-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Having said all that, I should acknowledge that some patents include statements about theory, in order to broaden the scope of the patent. If the theory holds up, it is very difficult to invent around it. Here is a good example -- the Bell Labs transistor patent of 1950: https://www.google.com/pat

Re: [Vo]:The E-Cat Patent. How?

2015-12-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
I think you should repeat the example of the Wright brothers until someone's head or hands explode. 2015-12-28 18:38 GMT-02:00 Jed Rothwell : > > That is for the patent office examiner to decide. If he or she agrees with > you that this claim is crazy, that will be grounds to reject the patent >

Re: [Vo]:The E-Cat Patent. How?

2015-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: But Jed... > > He stated in the patent that the heat source was a catalyst. But catalysts > cannot produce electric power. How can that crazy claim be accepted by the > patent office? > That is for the patent office examiner to decide. If he or she agrees with you that this clai

Re: [Vo]:The E-Cat Patent. How?

2015-12-28 Thread Axil Axil
But Jed... He stated in the patent that the heat source was a catalyst. But catalysts cannot produce electric power. How can that crazy claim be accepted by the patent office? On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Axil Axil wrote: > > >> Will the patent office allow such a pat

Re: [Vo]:ECAT plus solar cells

2015-12-28 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi has stated that he can control the voltage and amperage through a tradeoff control parameter. He also stated that he can control the electrical and heat output through a tradeoff control parameters. A solar cell approach would provide a constant output of current/voltage only. On Mon, Dec

Re: [Vo]:The E-Cat Patent. How?

2015-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > Will the patent office allow such a patent that cannot explain how energy > is produced? > Yes, it will. David French and many other experts have told me this, and this is also how I read the P.O. rules. Many discoveries without theoretical explanations have been patented. N

[Vo]:IS LENR GREATER THAN WE BELIEVE? IT IS DIFFERENT, FOR SURE!

2015-12-28 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/12/dec-28-2015-is-lenr-more-than-we-believe.html Half vacation, however the LENR world is moving. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

[Vo]:ECAT plus solar cells

2015-12-28 Thread David Roberson
I have a suspicion that the latest news from Rossi that DC output can be useful with his latest ECAT is believable. The amount of light emitted by his active device near the heated core has an intensity that is far greater than that due to normal sun light. It reminds me of the systems that

[Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Bob Cook
It would seem relatively simple with both HEAT and ELECTRICITY produced by Rossi’s E-Cat X to make a jet engine. Intake air compressed to higher pressures and temperatures with an electrically powered turbine/fan much like those used in large jets today could be adapted readily. This may be w

RE: [Vo]:Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Chris Zell
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/why-is-tax-evasion-so-bad-in-italy/2011/11/25/gIQA4NJ3vN_blog.html Tax evasion is Italy’s favorite sport. Everything has a context. Amazing how often these ‘scientific’ discussions end up going ad hominem.

Re: [Vo]:Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: > Jones, > > You are wrong and libelous in saying Rossi was convicted of fraud. He was > convicted of tax evasion. Well, that seems like a minor error by Jones, not libel. Fraud is not much worse than tax evasion. Now, if Jones had said "murder" that would be libelous. Howev

Re: [Vo]:Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Eric Walker
Re the jet engine claim, if Rossi is seeing prompt charged particles, this could have led him to speculate about the possibility of a jet engine. If the Papp engine was real, it is not difficult to imagine that it was powered by having prompt charged particles (e.g., alpha particles) momentarily i

Re: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > To invest in Rossi, one would have to bet that Mills’ IP can be > circumvented . . . > To reiterate, you do not need to circumvent a patent. You can invent something that extends it. The person licensing your patent must also license the basic patent. For example someone wa

Re: [Vo]:Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Frank, … hotter on outside than inside could correlate with 5D Calvert theories, Axil’s citation about radiation not measured nearby outer reactor wall but some readings made at a distance – as you say black hole or relativistic physics where radiation might be displaced temporally while still o

Re: [Vo]:Re: Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > If he actually has excess heat from time to time, why would he build a > financial scam? > > 1) The excess heat is unreliable. He cannot show it on demand > > 2) Rossi does not understand the gain mechanism > The people at IH are aware of these problems. I have not

Re: [Vo]:Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread a.ashfield
Jones, You are wrong and libelous in saying Rossi was convicted of fraud. He was convicted of tax evasion. Considering how his feedstock was retroactively classified as hazardous, of course he was in financial distress. Will you admit you were TOTALLY wrong and apologize to those you have

Re: [Vo]:Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda wrote: > I take Rossi's statement as an indication that they can see openings to >> create a propulsion unit for airplanes. >> > ... > > As I understood, the term "Jet Reactor" seems more to mean a "Brayton > turbine", probably closed cycle like the old nuclear reactor planes. > Al

Re: [Vo]:Whopper of the Week

2015-12-28 Thread Alain Sepeda
2015-12-27 23:45 GMT+01:00 Lennart Thornros : > I take Rossi's statement as an indication that they can see openings to > create a propulsion unit for airplanes. > ... As I understood, the term "Jet Reactor" seems more to mean a "Brayton turbine", probably closed cycle like the old nuclear reacto