[Vo]: Testing

2006-09-29 Thread leaking pen
testing subject. -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor

2006-09-15 Thread leaking pen
if its based on difference in wave velocity, wouldnt stationary be based on the surrounding radiation fields? and if so... now, uber amateur here, im einsteinian, in that, im great with theory, weak with mathematics, would two of these drives mounted at an angle to each other, say, a 90 between

Re: [Vo]: OFF TOPIC How to deal with terrorism

2006-08-14 Thread leaking pen
lets also recall where osama bin laden got his training in guerilla warfare.  yup, us, when we supported him in afghanistan to drive out russia.  On 8/14/06, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:22:41-0400:Hi,[snip]>>What makes t

Re: [Vo]: OFF TOPIC How to deal with terrorism

2006-08-14 Thread leaking pen
hes also stating that the average person ever sees dime one of the oil money.  its the primary income for the RICH.  not every one else there. On 8/14/06, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jed, you are proposing we treat the Moslem countries exactly how wetreated Germany after WWI.  The pla

Re: [Vo]: OFF TOPIC How to deal with terrorism

2006-08-14 Thread leaking pen
AIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Leaking pen wrote:>not all terrorist groups are muslim, and not all muslim groups are oil funded. The only terrorists threatening the US and the UK are Muslim.Everything and everyone in the Middle East outside of Israel isfunded by oil. They have no other industry or source

Re: [Vo]: OFF TOPIC How to deal with terrorism

2006-08-14 Thread leaking pen
groups like his still exist.    there are still anti government riots and terror attacks and plots from many groups that are not muslim.  assuming otherwise becuase a single convenient scapegoat makes you FEEL better is foolhardy.   On 8/14/06, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Leaki

Re: [Vo]: OFF TOPIC How to deal with terrorism

2006-08-14 Thread leaking pen
not all terrorist groups are muslim, and not all muslim groups are oil funded.  drugs funds a lot of them as well, and some are funded through other, not oil businesses.  On 8/14/06, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Edmund Storms wrote:>No one can win against a foe who is willing to die for

Re: [Vo]: help requested mpg to swf

2006-08-05 Thread leaking pen
why not just upload the mpeg to youtube? On 8/5/06, Steve Krivit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any Vorts skilled at converting mpg to swf? I've got a one-hour video from1989 of an internal EPRI meeting about CF that I'd love to drop on the net. I could use either some guidance (I own Macromedia MX Fla

Re: [Vo]: unsubscribe

2006-08-02 Thread leaking pen
same way you subscribed, but in reverse.  On 8/2/06, Anthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Guys,How do I unsubscribe?Thanks!Anthony -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]: Tesla Unveiled

2006-07-26 Thread leaking pen
now, wait, it said a black box was the power source for an electric motor put into it.  so the motor was replaced, not the regular motor.  therefore, existing gearing goes out the window. On 7/26/06, RC Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Howdy Terry,The link refers to Tesla's 1931 Pierce -Arrow t

Re: [Vo]: Tesla Unveiled

2006-07-26 Thread leaking pen
generally not, no.  most bearings are closed lube system now. On 7/20/06, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting the Tesla Motors FAQ:>The Tesla Roadster has no motor oil or oil>filters to change, no smog equipment to check, no air filters to >replace, no power steering fluids to refill.I

Re: [Vo]: OT: Buzz Aldrin comes clean

2006-07-25 Thread leaking pen
living god that is kim jong il, but close.  news that there are greater than human beings?  not smart move!   On 7/25/06, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/25/06, leaking pen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> but seriously, what would it avail them?  what would be the benefit t

Re: [Vo]: OT: Buzz Aldrin comes clean

2006-07-25 Thread leaking pen
theyare soon to let the cat out of the bag (unless it's dinner) when theyvisit the moon.    im not sure whats worse. that you said it, or i snickered.   but seriously, what would it avail them?  what would be the benefit to admiting it publicly for them?  On 7/25/06, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Vo]: Now Teeth Can Be Regrown

2006-07-21 Thread leaking pen
hmm, regrowing jawbone, we already have.  parts of teeth, we already have.  but this is nice. On 7/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:       Hello everyone, apparently we now have the technology to regrow teeth, also to help regenerate receding gums or bone in the mouth.

Re: Calling for list manager attention (was Re: Cart before the horse)

2006-06-08 Thread leaking pen
i believe list manager would be bill beaty, and from what i can see, he doesnt always go through all the emails. you might wanna try him directly On 6/8/06, Michel Jullian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sure but then people who only watch their inbox like me will miss the posts, or they will check the

Re: SSE conference schedule

2006-06-06 Thread leaking pen
i was almost tempted to make a road trip of it until you said orem.  i hit a cow on a road trip in 96 about a mile south of there, pulled into town, stayed the night at a hotel, informed the local authorities about it, and was arrested for not reporting the collision at the time (1 am...)    yeah

Giggle

2006-05-26 Thread leaking pen
Anyone seen this sucker?   http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-TESLA-SHIELD-radionics-psionics-rife-orgone-magick_W0QQitemZ9522360679QQcategoryZ1523QQcmdZViewItem   among other things, it incorporates the measurement of the cubit...  isnt a cubit from your shoulder to your pointing index finger?

Re: the concept of waste heat

2006-05-19 Thread leaking pen
waste heat is any heat that is caused by a proccess that is not used further along.  so in your example, yes, unless you hook up a sterling to reconvert it to electricity. On 5/19/06, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What criteria is used to distinguish between unwanted heat and waste heat?

Re: Precessional Work

2006-05-02 Thread leaking pen
sounds great.  now, where do we get a zero friction bearing? On 5/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I posted this elsewhere; but, Vorts deserve a chance to poo-poo it.Thanks to Beene and Grimer for the inspiration. Imagine a gyroscope with zero bearing friction and windage.  It is

Re: moving vs stationary weights

2006-04-12 Thread leaking pen
the change in time at higher speeds. On 4/12/06, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Those tests focus on inertial mass instead of gravitational mass.  Harry leaking pen wrote: actually, its opposite.  its been shown that as velocity increases, the objects mass increases as well.  On 4

Re: moving vs stationary weights

2006-04-12 Thread leaking pen
actually, its opposite.  its been shown that as velocity increases, the objects mass increases as well.  On 4/12/06, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you are bicycling fast enough you can cross a wooden plank spanning ditchbefore the plank breaks. Normally we say this is because it takes

Mars orbiter photos

2006-04-07 Thread leaking pen
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/123605.php   The UA's HiRISE camera team has released the first color images of Mars taken from a NASA craft orbiting the red planet. The public is invited to see the images, meet the scientists and tour the operation center at Mars Mania II Saturday on cam

Re: BP

2006-04-06 Thread leaking pen
almost as bad as the deveels on deva. /could be worse.  could be jahks.   On 4/2/06, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In reply to  Steven Krivit's message of Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:29:06-0800:Hi,[snip]>>The symbol of the green and yellow, sun like lotus flower that British >>Petroleum u

Re: BP

2006-03-26 Thread leaking pen
see, i hear bp, i think of lord baden-powell, founder of the scouts, and his motto, be prepared. On 3/26/06, Steven Krivit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anybody ever think about British Petroleum's name change to BP?Hmm ...s -- "Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to ma

Re: Hydrogen from electrolysis versus gasoline

2006-03-13 Thread leaking pen
lol, i would hope water weighed the same in kg as it massed in liters.  otherwise, we ahve a small problem. On 3/13/06, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Leaking pen wrote:>whoops, watch your units.  is that the mj per gallon of gas, or per kg? That was supposed to say gasoline has

Re: Hydrogen from electrolysis versus gasoline

2006-03-13 Thread leaking pen
whoops, watch your units.  is that the mj per gallon of gas, or per kg? On 3/10/06, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jones Beene wrote:>Nuclear energy has heretofore been the most likely way, and GE is in>on that avenue also. Splitting water using electricity from energy >sources such as win

Re: OT: Looks like it's over, folks.

2006-03-05 Thread leaking pen
actually, they get scanned into a machine, similar to the touch screen, and theres evidence that the count was rigged in ohio for those too.  unfortunately, teh ballots were sealed under court order, and therefore were not able to be recounted by hand, as almost happened in florida in 2k On 3/5/06

Re: test

2006-03-04 Thread leaking pen
testes testes, 1, 2,    3!?!?!?! On 3/4/06, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: test-- "Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write"  Voltaire

Re: global warming: spin or not spin?

2006-03-01 Thread leaking pen
honestly , its like calling co2 the worst.  theres MORE of it, but other gases are more efficient in their smaller amounts at causing the warming effects. On 3/1/06, Steven Krivit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anybody wish to comment on this sentence?"The primary greenhouse gas is water vapor,

Re: Breaking News: Bush says "not to worry"

2006-02-24 Thread leaking pen
im worried more about the security of my rights.   On 2/23/06, RC Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Howdy Jed, I don't believe the American people are worried about Dubya's security. He is secure. Wez woried about OUR security. Richard. - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: v

Re: My Sci-fi moon drive

2006-02-23 Thread leaking pen
at this point in time, the likelyhood of an actual original thought in terms of sci fi tech is pretty much nil.  On 2/23/06, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am glad I did not originate this idea.A load has been taken off my shoulders.Harryleaking pen wrote: and selective gravity sheildi

Re: My Sci-fi moon drive

2006-02-23 Thread leaking pen
and selective gravity sheilding as a method of propulsion has been used in so many others since.  i like the way it was handled in bio of a space tyrant, for one. On 2/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: -Original Message-From: OrionWorksDidn't H. G. Wells in his novel "Fi

Re: question for Bill Beaty

2006-01-25 Thread leaking pen
what was the body?  ive got the list on gmail, so ive got it all archived and searchable. On 1/25/06, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking for a post that I made in late August. I hit the Vortexarchives and attempted to use the search feature, which didn't work. Then I started pagi

hey bill, on the incadescent bacteria

2006-01-17 Thread leaking pen
just read that update to amasci.  sudden thought.  the "circle of fire"  suddenly looks very much like a toadstool ring, or any other ring formed from a single spore or seed source.    makes me wonder, is there an old dead volcano in the center that blew open a while ago...-- "Monsieur l'abbé, I d

Re: Has Physics Gone Nuts?

2006-01-10 Thread leaking pen
i think leon lederman put it best.  In The God Particle, he outlined the two distinct schools that have developed, the theorist and the experimenter.  there are those that come up with the math, the theory, and then those that get up and actually do it.  it used to be one and the same, but its beco

Re: OT: global warming humour

2006-01-09 Thread leaking pen
ha.  i love that old joke.  was first told to me by an apache that was simply called grandfather by everyone, even MY grandfather, about 10-15 years back.  he loved the reaction of people that would laugh, start to stop thinking it might be offensive, then break up again. On 1/9/06, Grimer <[EMAI

Re: BMW ICE Steam Hybrid

2005-12-20 Thread leaking pen
okay, i hadnt looked that close at the schematics.  you're right, they ARE using the other waste heat as well.  On 12/20/05, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: leaking pen wrote:> becuase...  running a sirling off the heat from the engine coolant and > block is inne

Re: BMW ICE Steam Hybrid

2005-12-20 Thread leaking pen
becuase...  running a sirling off the heat from the engine coolant and block is innefficient? On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Finally, someone finds a practical way to use the wasted ICE heat: http://www.gizmag.com/go/4936/"The concept uses energy from the exhaust gasses

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

2005-12-19 Thread leaking pen
i go with that.  especially, as i said, the color matches when you burn it.  therefore it makes sense that we have electrons jumping to higher valence energy levels, and emitting when they drop. On 12/19/05, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In reply to  William Beaty's message of Mon

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

2005-12-19 Thread leaking pen
first thought, id have to do it to match, but the color of the glow is similar to burning baking soda.  it could simply be the layer on the alluminum valence jumping. On 12/19/05, William Beaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: See below!-- Forwarded message --Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:35:

Re: Productive Sequestering

2005-12-16 Thread leaking pen
wrote: leaking pen wrote:>only gets rid of it for so long though.Why? Does it gradually leak out of the underground reservoir? - Jed-- "Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write"  Voltaire

Re: Productive Sequestering

2005-12-16 Thread leaking pen
only gets rid of it for so long though. On 12/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: http://www.impactlab.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6827 "The energy industry has found a new way to dispose of the greenhousegas carbon dioxide: pump it back into the underground oil rese

Re: WAY OFF TOPIC Making Saddam Hussein the enemy

2005-12-15 Thread leaking pen
heck, some of us here in the us have a problem than anyone EVER believed it, let alone still do.  On 12/15/05, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was just writing to a friend in Europe,explaining that some Americans still believe thatSaddam Hussein was responsible for the 9/11 attack, and t

Re: OT: Subscribing to the Knowledge of the Gods

2005-12-06 Thread leaking pen
then he should of asked before assuming, the same crime he accused me of. On 12/6/05, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: leaking pen wrote:> Pardon, but i was responding to Mr. Wesley,Ahem.You often top-post and, in the message in contention, you did not include a gree

Re: OT: Subscribing to the Knowledge of the Gods

2005-12-06 Thread leaking pen
x27;t.  You seemed rather eager to take the finger that wasn't pointed at you. On 12/6/05, OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: leaking pen>> "Christians like me don't mind the harmless atheists." >> missed that one...>> really now.  pay any atte

Re: OT: Subscribing to the Knowledge of the Gods

2005-12-06 Thread leaking pen
"Christians like me don't mind the harmless atheists."   missed that one...   really now.  pay any attention to people like Bush, who stated that athiests cant be considered patriots, and are a danger to the country?  hows about pat robertson, who prays for the death of athiests daily, and wants a

Re: Maser

2005-11-30 Thread leaking pen
yes i did.  it was a carbide cannon.  that is, a replica cannon that gives a loud noise and burst of smoke, but without the cannonball.  they made the attackers think it was a real cannon. On 11/30/05, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did anyone hear the story about the sailors on the crui

Re: Maser

2005-11-29 Thread leaking pen
ygives you one wavefront, not the repeated frontsneeded.--- RC Macaulay < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi Leaking Pen,> Your analogy is only ONE manifestation of sound.> i.e. heat>   - Original Message ----->   From: leaking pen>   To: vortex-l@eskimo.com>   Sent:

Re: Maser

2005-11-28 Thread leaking pen
no, sound is particles moving in a wave motion, and light is a wave motion in its own right.  sound is closer to teh heat generated by shining light on something. On 11/28/05, RC Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,Sound is light. Recent experiment demonstrating that light can be " frozen"is on

Re: Maser

2005-11-28 Thread leaking pen
i didnt miss it.   i stated quite plainly that it was not sound.   and im sure one could create something SIMILAR in sound, though it wouldnt be generated the same way, for reasons youve stated. also, theres a difference between the mechanical wave of sound and the enegy wave of light.     On 11/28

Re: Maser

2005-11-28 Thread leaking pen
no, its a beam of em radiation in the microwave band similar to a laser. On 11/28/05, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is a maser a beam of sound similar to al laser?--- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! - "Monsieur l'abbé, I

Re: New Battery Story -

2005-11-02 Thread leaking pen
try bugmenot.com On 11/2/05, Rick Monteverde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You have to join 'em to read 'em, then you get spammed.   Executive summary?   Thanks,   R. -Original Message-From: Ron Wormus [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:00 AMTo: vortex-l@eskimo

Re: Say it ain't so

2005-10-22 Thread leaking pen
but its still not the most effecient use of energy On 10/22/05, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok then a conventional warhead.Harry leaking pen wrote: it would, because then youd have the shaft acting as a channel.  but...  have you SEEN the ground around an underground test

Re: OT: Fibonacci Numbers - a personal rant (you have been warned!)

2005-10-21 Thread leaking pen
ill also point out that a software was designed about 5 years ago that took price flucuations of individual stocks as a whole and used equations that described the motion of quantum particles and the likelyhood of destruction of those particles.  i believe that was the equations used, that or somet

Re: Say it ain't so

2005-10-20 Thread leaking pen
then a detonation on or near the surface.Harry leaking pen wrote: penetration would be easy.  an object that distant, just escape velocity would be enough to punch pretty deep, and with extra fuel, we can get missiles going pretty darn fast.  its a matter of keeping the bomb intact, and the fact that penet

Re: OT: Aquatic speculations on human evolution

2005-10-20 Thread leaking pen
do you  better than that.  are you aware that after the face has been exposed to water, in a slow process that takes about 15 minutes, the body changes cappilary flow to heat the inside, the pancreas (believe its the pancreas) shrinks putting more hemoglobin into the system, the lungs internally ch

Re: Say it ain't so

2005-10-20 Thread leaking pen
way we could get one to "penetrate" into anasteroid in order to split it, for instance -- the bombs can't dig or drill their way in and they don't have the kind of propulsion systemthey'd need to let them push their way in.  You'd need to start overfrom scratch t

Re: Say it ain't so

2005-10-20 Thread leaking pen
e with earth. Harry leaking pen wrote: they ARE still researching battlefield nukes, and the elimination of fallout is being done by the fact that the ones being developed are ground penetrating bunker busters.  make a nice glass cave thats self sealing.   On 10/19/05, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL

Re: Say it ain't so

2005-10-20 Thread leaking pen
thomas, the point is that, in a manner similar to a standard uranium bomb, as opposed to a plutonium, that goes critical mass just by being there, an explosive is used to create a shockwave that increases density as it passes.  the reason behind critical mass is absorbtion of enough of the neutrons

Re: Say it ain't so

2005-10-19 Thread leaking pen
they ARE still researching battlefield nukes, and the elimination of fallout is being done by the fact that the ones being developed are ground penetrating bunker busters.  make a nice glass cave thats self sealing.  On 10/19/05, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: thomas malloy wrote:

Re: Off Topic: Not Sure of the Script

2005-10-05 Thread leaking pen
because hes got a hotmail account.  same as those with yahoo accounts are advertising for katrina relief right now. On 10/5/05, John Fields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:46:49 -0600, you wrote:>i know tom and richard often post on esoteric issues -- i oft see frank >quote from t

Re: deceptively simple question

2005-09-27 Thread leaking pen
yes, but i was trying not to CONFUSE the poor dear with extra information. On 9/27/05, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In reply to  leaking pen's message of Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:22:23-0700:Hi,[snip]>sigh... > its a WARM front above, where all the air has moved. its a dual layer>issue.

Re: deceptively simple question

2005-09-27 Thread leaking pen
thats what I said... On 9/27/05, Merlyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Because as the hot air rises the cold air rushes in tofill the low pressure region left behind. A high-pressure system is the result of the warm airnot being able to rise and so it pushes the cold airin front of it making a warm fro

Re: deceptively simple question

2005-09-27 Thread leaking pen
sigh...   its a WARM front above, where all the air has moved.  its a dual layer issue.  On 9/26/05, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In reply to  leaking pen's message of Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:13:25-0700:Hi,[snip]>its a cold front on teh ground. As opposed to??>>On 9/26/05, Robin van S

Re: deceptively simple question

2005-09-26 Thread leaking pen
its a cold front on teh ground. On 9/26/05, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,if hot air rises, and thereby creates a low pressure region, thenwhy are low pressure regions always accompanied by cold fronts rather than warm fronts?Regards,Robin van SpaandonkIn a town full of candlest

Re: secret of nimh

2005-09-25 Thread leaking pen
that we are all just rats working for them, coming up with derivatives that will be snapped up and added on as developments on the patent. On 9/25/05, Steven Krivit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 07:17 PM 9/25/2005, you wrote:>blue pill:>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6305161887/103

Re: the dark side of the moon

2005-09-25 Thread leaking pen
teh problem is, the back bone of the chinese space program is centered around the conversion of old icbms into space reaching rockets.  they boost at WAY too high a g for human travel.  so most of the research has been going into satellites.  also, a friend of mine pointed out a large amount of pur

Re: Welcome to Vortex

2005-09-24 Thread leaking pen
he didnt quote any rules, he was telling you what people liked about vortex.  and im with him.  im kinda finding your constant news posts a bit much.  maybe one a day with links to all the articles, and let discussion go from there? On 9/24/05, Alex Caliostro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: Stev

Re: Buying D2O, buying insurance, and 9/11

2005-09-14 Thread leaking pen
d20?  3rd ed or 3.5? On 9/14/05, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This discussion about buying D2O has gotten off the track. It is quiteclear to me D2O has become more difficult to purchase, and so have many other chemicals. Ed Storms has told us that although he can get D2O, he hasto go thr

Re: Find-a-cause, middle class guilt and angst

2005-09-10 Thread leaking pen
maybe if the upper class didnt design society in such a way to treat people like animals, herd animals, good for workers and buyers and nothing more, we wouldnt have this problem.  On 9/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: They're at it again: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainme

Re: space elevator

2005-08-17 Thread leaking pen
splash nothing. th evelocity with wich it would hit, you would cause a massive tsunami. id like to note, one of the first articles i ever read on the subject was a science fact piece in destinies, november 79 iirc, by isaac asimov (a true scientist as well as writer) in which he went over the equ

Re: Why are the oil companies making such huge profits?

2005-08-16 Thread leaking pen
umm, yes, in teh basic model of capitalism, corporations ARE beholden to society. corps were not ALLOWED to exist in the good olde days of capitalism like they do now, becuase it was KNOWN they would wrok this way. a large corps ability to influence the market destroys the essence of pure capital

Re: ID and scientist fear

2005-08-09 Thread leaking pen
if theres no want, and no system of transfer of goods and valuation of labor (money) then society will stagnate. thas NOT a utopia you describe. btw, on the scientific credibility of esp like things, proven, some people are just computer jinxs http://www.canada.com/technology/story.html?id=f6ebf0

Re: [OT] Race for the Ark & Other News

2005-08-05 Thread leaking pen
who says it has to be a suitcase nuke? bin laden is loaded, and has no trouble moving people in. i could easlily see a large device being slowly assembled in a wharehouse in the middle of a metropolis somewhere. teh only thing that would really have to be imported would be the nuklear material,

Re: Are things really getting too complicated?

2005-07-29 Thread leaking pen
the government could easily have controlled the greed. unfortunely, when you try, people who know not of what they speak start screaming about free market economys. clue camel guys, a powerful single industrial leader destroys the free market as surely as the most socialist government controls wo

Re: Insipid New York Times editorial

2005-07-28 Thread leaking pen
damn. just... damn. well, a buck a gallon tax on individuals. 3 a gallon tax on coorporate interests. trucking fleets. as for the rest of it. sounds good to me. On 7/28/05, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Carrell wrote: > > >OK guys, it's 'they should have' all over again an

Re: Insipid New York Times editorial

2005-07-28 Thread leaking pen
damn straight. my car broke down on the highway two days ago. i spent 3 hours in my car in the shade, no ac (about out of gas) waiting for a tow. but... i keep a 7 gallon jug of water in my trunk. it may be warm, but its WET! On 7/26/05, Merlyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ya know, it ain't t

Re: Insipid New York Times editorial

2005-07-28 Thread leaking pen
we ceratinly do. dead set in the middle of them. one month period thats about half our rainfall for the year. humidity in the 80s, temps in the 110s. gorgeous sunsets reddened by mile high 5 mile thick walls of moving dust and debris. On 7/26/05, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Ne

Re: Geek eBay "centerfold"

2005-07-13 Thread leaking pen
droool. it must be mine On 7/13/05, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking of surfing eBay for your next OU project ... > > If you are a geek experimenter who likes to fantasize about > building a cheap earth-shaking experiment (something a little more > profound than "flubber,

Re: OT Re: July 4

2005-07-05 Thread leaking pen
actually, there IS evidence that he had seen such maps. he thought them innacurate, and another side of china. hence his belief that he could find a shorter trade route. On 7/5/05, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mike Carrell wrote: > > >In the early 1400s China was *the*

Re: (OT)Liberals and conservatives

2005-07-05 Thread leaking pen
ahh, but theres the rub. the bush admin IS liberal. On 7/5/05, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > leaking pen wrote: > > >well, if someone links it, ill take it. btw, since the term liberal > >means desiring change, then proggressive and

Re: OT Re: July 4

2005-07-05 Thread leaking pen
as the talking heads and propoganda machines would make you think. On 7/5/05, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > leaking pen wrote: > > >bushs america is not america. period. dont make that mistake again. > > the bush admin is a cancer on t

Re: OT Re: July 4

2005-07-04 Thread leaking pen
bushs america is not america. period. dont make that mistake again. the bush admin is a cancer on the body of our country, and in desperate need of incision. On 7/4/05, Nick Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RS Macaulay wrote:- > > < the world. >> > > <> > > The trouble with many Am

Re: On the Aliens

2005-06-30 Thread leaking pen
ITS A COOKBOOK! A COOKBOOK! On 6/29/05, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just heard a great quote. Hilly Rose is guest hosting for George > Noony. He asked a man why the Aliens were here, and he replied, > "they're here to eat us." Some things tickle my black sense of humor. > IMHO a

Re: WSCI: "earth.google.com" is online

2005-06-30 Thread leaking pen
i think i speak for all here when i say svet! On 6/30/05, William Beaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you thought the satellite photos on maps.google.com were cool, try > downloading the earth viewer from http://earth.google.com (10megs, so far > it's winXP only, and needs a fast link fo

Re: Exchange with ITER public relations flack

2005-06-29 Thread leaking pen
::applause:: bravo jed. nicely done. On 6/29/05, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ITER has been in the news lately. By coincidence, I recently exchanged > correspondence with a public relations flack there. Attached is our > correspondence. This would be hilarious if these people were n

Re: (OT)Liberals and conservatives

2005-06-29 Thread leaking pen
ill imply it. the current state of isreal has no right to exist. its creation by britain went against several laws of the time. its about time the long lost cousins stopped trying to take the family farm from the direct descendants. On 6/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > F

Re: (OT)Liberals and conservatives

2005-06-29 Thread leaking pen
well, if someone links it, ill take it. btw, since the term liberal means desiring change, then proggressive and liberal mean the same thing, dont they? desiring change for the better. whereas conservative means things are just fine as they are, or maybe were better in the past. and no, the ter

Re: OFF TOPIC Cultural relativity

2005-06-29 Thread leaking pen
wow... just.. wow. big money supports dems? sustainablilty is a liberal idea? On 6/29/05, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed Storms replied > > >I agree with you, Frank, some cultures are better than others, just > >as some scientific theories and some people are better than others.

Re: OFF TOPIC Cultural relativity

2005-06-28 Thread leaking pen
st book in the bible. Perhaps this emerging generation > > will be given the insight of understanding this writing that promises a > > blessing to all that study the letter from Jesus Christ to the nations. > Why > > did the writer use the word " study" > > Leaking

Re: (OT)Liberals and conservatives

2005-06-28 Thread leaking pen
very true. the problem is, theres a party out there that has decided it will see everything in black and white. and those that follow it, rather than thinking for themselves, do the same. On 6/28/05, Merlyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel I had to reply to the whole culteral relativism > iss

Re: OFF TOPIC Cultural relativity

2005-06-27 Thread leaking pen
closer to 1700 years. st john the divine is not to be confused with st john the baptist. he lived in roughly 300 ad, and was of a judaic endtimes cult. not a christian. he talks not of a second coming, but of the first coming of the messiah, as he didnt believe jesus was the messiah. just h

Re: OFF TOPIC Cultural relativity

2005-06-27 Thread leaking pen
jed, i swear, head over to fark.com. we could use you. ill even sponsor you for totalfark. we have discussions like this daily. its great fun. On 6/27/05, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grimer wrote: > > >I very much hope and pray that he hasn't "progressed" beyond Pius IX > >and I

Re: OFF TOPIC Cultural relativity

2005-06-27 Thread leaking pen
what eds saying is, you and the pope can interpret it how you want. that doesnt change the fact that you are interpreting it WRONG, and any attempt to argue a point based on a flawed interpretation is itself flawed. On 6/27/05, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree with you, Frank, s

Re: OFF TOPIC Cultural relativity

2005-06-27 Thread leaking pen
thanks jed. i wasnt going to step in as ive just had this conversation with several friends, and liken it to bashing my head in with a lead brick repeatedly. On 6/27/05, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thomas malloy wrote: > > >That area of agreement a leftist notion called cultural re

Re: Golka video: Ball Lightning in lab. WHAT?!!!!!

2005-06-24 Thread leaking pen
please, elaborate for us einsteins that dont think mathmatically. On 6/24/05, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grimer wrote: > > > > > > Still, no one seems to have twigged the significance > > of "(d^n)L/dt^n of very high orders."8-) > > > > > as n -> infinity? > > Harry > >

Re: Is Big Brother watching?

2005-06-23 Thread leaking pen
you mean like longhorn? On 6/23/05, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I posted; > > >At 10:32 pm 22/06/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >>An E E took his new computer apart and found a chip which appears to > >>been placed in the circuitry by Home Land Security. > > > > >http://www.chiark.gree

Re: Is Big Brother watching?

2005-06-23 Thread leaking pen
actually, thats faked. the pic was put together, and the letter was pulled from a political website. i mean, look at the bloody web address. lol.html. it was a prank, if you search elsewhere on the site, they talk about it. On 6/22/05, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An E E took his

Re: Golka Ball Lightning video

2005-06-22 Thread leaking pen
its a wmv. make sure all your codecs are updated on media player. On 6/22/05, Stephen R. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I downloaded the 30Mb file http://www.eskimo.com/~bilb/GolkaBL.wmv but when > I play it I get sound but, tantalisingly, a completely blank screen. Is > this something t

Re: Golka video: Ball Lightning in lab. WHAT?!!!!!

2005-06-21 Thread leaking pen
kinda like a bose einstein condensate, but between a different set of forms, and on a larger scale? havent seen the video, will download at home, but for those that would know, is an arc welder ac or dc? ditto the devices hes using to generate the balls. On 6/17/05, William Beaty <[EMAIL PROTECT

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