Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication

Thank you Axil, that is my understanding as well and explained much better than I could. I have been told that Piantelli has confirmed each step is correct. AG On 11/9/2011 3:52 AM, Axil Axil wrote: ** *"Hydrogen Ions are protons and are positively charged."* ** ** *The Piantelli theory

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lame LENR H-Ni run report by Sergio Focardi and Francesco Piantelli, 9 pages, Il Nuovo Cimento, November 1998 -- recent news: Rich Murray 2011.08.20 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011/08/lame-lenr-h-ni-run-report-by-sergio.html http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/94

Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication

Am 08.11.2011 18:22, schrieb Axil Axil: ** *"Hydrogen Ions are protons and are positively charged."* ** ** *The Piantelli theory is based on a quasiparticle: a _/negative/_hydrogen ion that acts as an electron in the nucleus of a nickel atom. * ** <>

Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication

t, > > Peter > > > > AG >> >> On 11/9/2011 1:05 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Nachricht >>> Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat >>> An: vortex-l@eskimo.com >>> Da

Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication

Aussie Guy E-Cat An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 08.11.2011 15:17 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication I'm on my 2nd read of the Piantelli patent application WO 2010/058288 Al. I'm starting to understand the nuclear process he is describing. Is this for real?

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st? AG On 11/9/2011 1:05 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: - Original Nachricht Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 08.11.2011 15:17 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication I'm on my 2nd read of the Piantelli patent application WO 2010/05828

Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication

- Original Nachricht Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 08.11.2011 15:17 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication > I'm on my 2nd read of the Piantelli patent application WO 2010/058288 > Al. I'm starting to understand the nucle

Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication

2011 12:21 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: - Original Nachricht Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 08.11.2011 13:21 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication I do like the idea of the Ni tube and putting the heater element inside for all the reasons you

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- Original Nachricht Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 08.11.2011 13:21 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication > I do like the idea of the Ni tube and putting the heater element inside > for all the reasons you listed. This could resul

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I do like the idea of the Ni tube and putting the heater element inside for all the reasons you listed. This could result in a very simple to make cell as thermal heat, H2 and vacuum only needs to be applied to the inside of the tube. Using a stainless tube with Ni electroplated and electropoli

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eter - Original Nachricht Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 08.11.2011 08:36 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication > Overall I do agree with you, especially as cell A was a Ni plated > stainless rod and it produces more power than did the Ni

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Yes, thanks to you Peter, I do now understand the Ni-H cell design is Piantelli. Before I start changing anything, I will attempt to replicate his design as described in the Focardi and Piantelli paper in 1998 and in the Piantelli patent. I'm an old and cautious engineer, who has learned not to

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Be aware that it is a Piantelli cell and that many blokes worldwide are trying replications- and this actions would lead to many variants of practical energy sources. I wish you sucess! Peter On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Thanks for the link and references. I can see I

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Nice list you put together Peter. We will try to get all the papers and have them translated. It should not take too long for a patent attorney to obtain those papers or do have a source of them translated? If so care to share? You see, I don't like re-inventing the wheel and those papers shoul

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Datum: 08.11.2011 07:28 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication I have read Focardi did heat treat the Ni rod, which I also intend to do. I also understand there can be problems with the Ni rod becoming H loaded and producing heat when there is no external heating applied. I do note Focardi

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Thanks for the link and references. I can see I have a lot of reading to do. I it seems my replication efforts are for a Piantelli cell (according to his patent application) and not a Focardi cell? I should be able to borrow the high vacuum and other pumps needed. My patent attorney, who is al

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- Original Nachricht Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 08.11.2011 07:28 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication > I have read Focardi did heat treat the Ni rod, which I also intend to > do. I also understand there can be problems with

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Focardi has disclosed some data on how the Ni rods were prepared which seems doable: "In order to compare samples having the same surface but different bulks, the metal rods used in the experiments described here (stainless steel for cell A and nickel for cell B) were coated with a thick ( 0.

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Dear Aussie Guy, Have you studied thoroughly the two Piantelli patents- from 1995 and 2010? Have you read what I wrote about Piantelli on my blog? (adress in signature) He has built the cells. You will need vacuum of 10 exp minus 5-6 Torrs, i.e a tandem of a diffusion and a turbomolecular vacuum

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I have read Focardi did heat treat the Ni rod, which I also intend to do. I also understand there can be problems with the Ni rod becoming H loaded and producing heat when there is no external heating applied. I do note Focardi does show a vacuum supply that can be applied to the cell and with

Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication

-Original Message- From: Aussie Guy E-Cat To: vortex-L Sent: Tue, Nov 8, 2011 12:57 am Subject: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication I plan to duplicate the 1998 Focardi Ni-H cell as per ttp://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSlargeexces.pdf except for the ater jacket and confirm or

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Yes I have read that. But first I plan to try to duplicate the 1998 Focardi cell as closely as I can. I have emailed Focardi and asked for the dimensions of the cell and construction material and informed him I plan to replicate. I'm just a power system engineer and not a physicists, so I do ho

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Rossi's largest contribution to improving on the Piantelli-Focardi work, may have been his suggestion at using nano-nickel. The increased surface area, and available crystalline lattice has been garnering a lot of attention. Variations in particle size and, possibly more importantly, surface typ

[Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication

I plan to duplicate the 1998 Focardi Ni-H cell as per http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSlargeexces.pdf except for the water jacket and confirm or not his reported results. I have a really nicely fitted out workshop with toys like lathes, mills, pulse welders, medium and high vacuum pump