There is a lot of great stuff in this book. The account is accurate as far
as I know. You never can tell where the truth lies with Rossi, but this is
pretty much what I have heard from various people. Lewan downplays the
severity of some of the incidents, such as NASA's visit to Rossi.
The parts
No proof and no telling of who were those people. Only the frustrated
tantrum.
Also, Edison knew how to issue a patent. Rossi is lost.
2014-04-11 16:42 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
The impressive people left, 'cause they weren't paid.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
There are some controversies described in the book which strike me as
comical. They remind me of debates over whether Shakespeare wrote his plays
or whether it was another man of the same name. For example, Lewan
describes Rossi's claim that he had a factory in Florida where they
manufactured
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
No proof and no telling of who were those people.
I know who they were. I have photos of them and their equipment.
I have not finished the book. I do not know if it describes the people at
Defkalion.
Only the frustrated tantrum.
By who?
From: Jed Rothwell
I do not see why he would lie about the factory being in Florida.
Let me guess. No business license so competitors cannot find him, no OSHA to
deal with, undocumented workers, wages paid out of pocket, taxes avoided,
corners cut . the list goes on.
The underground
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
I do not see why he would lie about the factory being in Florida.
Let me guess. No business license so competitors cannot find him, no
OSHA to deal with, undocumented workers, wages paid out of pocket, taxes
avoided, corners cut ... the list goes on.
2014-04-11 16:58 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I know who they were. I have photos of them and their equipment.
Lier.
By who?
You
- Jed
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Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I know who they were. I have photos of them and their equipment.
Lier.
By who?
Read the book and you will see.
- Jed
Jed, I understand that you are well informed about Rossi and Defkalion. I
am glad that you confirm what I read on and between the lines. Here are a
few comments.
Let me say I think you nailed it when you said he is italian. I would say
he is a very unusual Italian as he is hard working. That there
Hi all
I posted some of this earlier but I think people missed it as I posted
it with different heading to every one else in the thread.
I particularly want people to pay attentions as to why I think Rossi's
patent is in point of fact a perfect patent trap, set to succeed at
the MOMENT OF
Of course, I will read it. You are also throwing a tantrum, nevertheless.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote:
People seem to have missed the fact the patent office have said Rossi's
patent will succeed without reservation if he shows a working product, this
means Rossi's product goes live within six months from the date the patent
was put in abeyance.
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Of course, I will read it. You are also throwing a tantrum, nevertheless.
No, I am not. That is only happening in your imagination. You need to get a
grip. Also, you need to stop calling people liars here. That is not
acceptable in this forum.
- Jed
So, is it OK to accuse DGT of anything without providing any names, photos?
You just say you know. And I am not calling people liars, just you.
That's because you should be the first to know how fragile cold fusion is,
but you are shamelessly badmouthing a company that may really change world.
In
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
So, is it OK to accuse DGT of anything without providing any names, photos?
I am not accusing them of anything. They themselves announced they were
closing down operations in Greece, years ago. One or two of their people
moved to Canada. The rest of the
This is not true. That's what I can say.
And why are you calling Peter Gluck and Yianni's son a nobody?
2014-04-11 22:37 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
Obviously, they did not get it, because they still have no employees.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
This is not true. That's what I can say.
And why are you calling Peter Gluck and Yianni's son a nobody?
Peter Gluck is retired as far as I know. He told me he is too old to
travel. He is not working in a lab for Defkalion, that's for sure.
I have
Oh, you raised the question! Tell me the name of those who complained about
failed tests!
2014-04-11 22:51 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
Stop talking about me. Tell us what you know.
- Jed
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Jed: Edison knew he had solved the problem, but he had a lot of work left,
[so] more intellectual property [was] there for the taking. Low hanging
fruit. He did not want his competition to take him too seriously. On the
other hand, he needed more big bucks from the investors and banks. It was a
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, you raised the question! Tell me the name of those who complained about
failed tests!
See the book.
- Jed
Daniel,
Calling Jed a Liar and then claiming he is ...throwing a tantrum over
the DGT matter is, IMO, not winning you many converts. Quite frankly, some
of your recent posts strike me as possessing an emotionally charged need on
your part to play the role of an advocate for DGT's questionable
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
What's good for the goose is also good for the gander. How does Jed know
that Defkalion isn't playing the same low profile game? With the world's
major intelligence agencies watching them, it's smart to get as small as
possible? Maybe here too Jed is just a
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed is always very short on details and is seldom open at first he just
states his opinion as true and says trust me. Name names. Give us every
detail. Put a stake through the heart of Defkalion or stop the Joe McCarthy
impersonation. Getting the real facts
No, I am not casting doubt on Jed. On the contrary, I raised the point that
due his credibility, making a point which he doesn't have a proof would
hurt the future of the world. I would, indeed, call Jed a negative Krivit
look alike, an anti DGT. That is, instead of defending a group, he is
This is true. But, my mouth is very charyt!
2014-04-11 23:26 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
They said that many experts visited them and confirmed the results.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
That is, instead of defending a group, he is targeting a single one without
proofs and telling things that are not true, such as their lab in Athens
being closed . . .
Look, Daniel, get a grip! THEY SAID IT IS CLOSED. Most of the people there
left the
Huh, yes. You are deluding yourself. They do have a lab.
http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/ManningIE110.pdf
2014-04-11 23:36 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
I am not interpreting anything!
- Jed
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
There are no facts! THERE ARE NO DETAILS! That is my whole point. That's
what I have been saying, again and again. Defkalion has published NOTHING.
No one paper. Not so much as a calibration curve.
In preamble,
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
What’s good for the goose is also good for the gander. ... you may also be
at risk of being an another tool of Defkalian’s maskirovka.
Where do you get these idioms and turns of phrase? If there is a good Web
site out there,
I have been increasing impressed by the stiletto sharp precision of your
writing. It would be tragic and a disservice to adulterate it with the home
spun platitudes that you referenced.
We all must struggle under the restrictions of our limitations. Always try
to improve, don't backslide.
On
Jed:
If you are forced to close down a lab and fire everyone after spending 7
million Euros, that does not impress your investors or your inner circle.
I can understand the reason for this. When a company knows little in a
specified field, they spend money to hire employees and consultants to
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
This is not true. That's what I can say.
And why are you calling Peter Gluck and Yianni's son a nobody?
I don't think anyone would call Peter a nobody. I'm curious -- what is the
name of Yianni's son? Is it Aris
Yes
Take a look to an elegant redefinition of scientific fundamentals as
apeared in an early paper of Aris Chatzichristos at
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=426
He may be the technical backbone of DGT, the equal to or the belter of
Rossi.
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Eric
That's a good sign. Because the reality is, no one is going to care
whatsoever about Rossi's quirks if he really has what he says he has. I
think that's what Rossi is thinking too.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, I have the book. The .mobi
Okay, I have the book. The .mobi version opens automatically with the
Kindle for PC program.
This is an accurate and well-written account. It is depressing. I am glad
Lewan made public many events and people's names, because it means I do not
keep them secret any more.
The book harshly
You are smarter than I.:)
I could not open with the Kindle app. I used the Kindle for android. Are
those programs different.
I found a epub app in the plays-tore, with some help from Mats, which opens
it.
Dont you think AR should be criticised by a journalist who maintain
integrity? I think so. I
I used the free program Calibre to read the epub file on my computer.
It works very well and does a lot of other things too.
I Thought the book well written and it certainly fleshed out some
details for me. The criticisms were as much because of circumstances as
anything Rossi did wrong.
Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote:
Dont you think AR should be criticised by a journalist who maintain
integrity? I think so.
I think so too, but I am surprised AR did not go ape shit on him.
- Jed
I think so too, but I am surprised AR did not go ape shit on him.
Mats describes right up front how he asked Rossi if he was OK with
reporting the truth as he sees it.
He's unflattering about Rossi but he never says he thinks that
the eCat's fake, or that Rossi outright lied.
We
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