Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-12 Thread James Bowery
What is Stremmenos up to nowadays? On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > Hello group, > > Have a look at this new pdf from DGT, dated May 2012: > > http://www.defkalion-energy.**com/files/2012-05_**StatusPicturesFinal.pdf

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2012-05-12 Thread Alain Sepeda
bes. The presence of the spark plug is >> unneccesary for the purposes you mentioned. >> >> To me, sparks appear to be critical for the creation of Rydberg matter as >> speculated by Axil. >> >> I am unfamiliar with the Atomic Battery calculations you are alluding >> t

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2012-05-11 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Robert Lynn < robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Being charitable maybe they already have a large technical staff, or maybe > they plan on outsourcing a lot of engineering development (though not from > looks of planning to build factory). It does make me

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2012-05-11 Thread Axil Axil
elaborate? > > > Jojo > > > > > - Original Message ----- > *From:* David Roberson > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Friday, May 11, 2012 1:24 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green > Technologies > > I do

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2012-05-11 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
build up the sales, marketing, manufacturing, customer service, etc. resources. -mark -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:48 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion G

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2012-05-11 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
om] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:21 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies At 11:56 AM 5/11/2012, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: >3 Mechanical engineers, 2 Chemical engineers and 1 electrical >26 other (sales, overhead) >

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2012-05-11 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:56 AM 5/11/2012, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: 3 Mechanical engineers, 2 Chemical engineers and 1 electrical 26 other (sales, overhead) Quite a different ratio from the typical Silicon Valley start-up And no phycisist, no word about radiation, nuclear physics, analysis techniques that could revea

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2012-05-11 Thread Robert Lynn
Noticed that too. Very heavy on marketing, very light on development which considering how big a deal the first successful commercial LENR development would is as a technology would be very short sighted. Being charitable maybe they already have a large technical staff, or maybe they plan on outs

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2012-05-11 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
3 Mechanical engineers, 2 Chemical engineers and 1 electrical 26 other (sales, overhead) Quite a different ratio from the typical Silicon Valley start-up And no phycisist, no word about radiation, nuclear physics, analysis techniques that could reveal the details of the proces,.. Not even job descr

Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread David Roberson
11, 2012 2:57 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Having 2 spark plugs on both ends, and firing them alternately in groups will cause the hot zone to alternate between the 2 ends. This to me would push the hydrogen back and forth between

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2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
http://rulev-igor.narod.ru/theme_142.html 11.05.2012, 21:39, "Alan J Fletcher" : > At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: > >> Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. >> Page 18 has a spark plug on the desk. Interesting... > > Maybe they preload hydrogen,  let in s

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2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
http://rulev-igor.narod.ru/theme_142.html 11.05.2012, 21:39, "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" : > At 07:15 PM 5/10/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > >> At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: >>> Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. >>> Page 18 has a spark plug on the desk. In

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2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
http://rulev-igor.narod.ru/theme_142.html 11.05.2012, 21:39, "Robert Lynn" : > Spark plugs make for easily removable/modifiable, cheap and easy high > voltage, high current and high temperature electrical feed-throughs into > pressure or vacuum vessels.  I don't think you can read to much into t

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2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
>> >>> As for your question on how to distribute the heat, you are right, but the >>> answer is turbulence.  In another thread, I speculated that sparking must >>> be accompanied by turbulence and mixing.  If not, the sparks would quickly >>> "cook&qu

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2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
http://rulev-igor.narod.ru/theme_142.html 11.05.2012, 21:39, "Akira Shirakawa" : > On 2012-05-10 20:17, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > >>  Hello group, > > DGT also updated their "Job Positions" page here: > > http://www.defkalion-energy.com/jobs > > Cheers, > S.A.

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2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
http://rulev-igor.narod.ru/theme_142.html 11.05.2012, 22:13, "Andre Blum" : > Pages 5 and 7: > Full ashtrays close to the H2 charge circuit.

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2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
rator?  Perhaps this >> effect would help explain the concentration of energy in active surface >> regions of the devices. >> >>  Dave >> >>  -Original Message- >>  From: Jojo Jaro >>  To: vortex-l >>  Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 2:57 am >>  Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green >> Technologies >> >>  ... >>  I am unfamiliar with the Atomic Battery calculations you are alluding to.  >> Can you please elaborate? >> >>  Jojo >> >>  

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2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
further accelerates > protons released by the spark plug ion generator?  Perhaps this effect would > help explain the concentration of energy in active surface regions of the > devices. > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: Jojo Jaro > To: vortex-l > Sent: Fr

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2012-05-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Andre Blum wrote: Pages 5 and 7: > Full ashtrays close to the H2 charge circuit. > Conclusion: These photographs really were taken in Europe. Not in the U.S. - Jed

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2012-05-11 Thread David Roberson
: vortex-l Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 2:57 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies ... I am unfamiliar with the Atomic Battery calculations you are alluding to. Can you please elaborate? Jojo

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2012-05-11 Thread Andre Blum
Pages 5 and 7: Full ashtrays close to the H2 charge circuit.

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2012-05-11 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-05-10 20:17, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, DGT also updated their "Job Positions" page here: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/jobs Cheers, S.A.

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2012-05-10 Thread Jojo Jaro
you please elaborate? Jojo - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies I do see the two plugs at opposite ends of the device b

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2012-05-10 Thread David Roberson
Dave -Original Message- From: Jojo Jaro To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 11:31 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Another thing, notice on page 24, DGT's reactor has 2 spark plugs mounted co-axially on both ends of the reactor.

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2012-05-10 Thread noone noone
st a matter of hunting for that secret ingredient.  Axil's speculation about Cesium being the secret ingredient is quite compelling.   Jojo   - Original Message - >From: David Roberson >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:55 AM >Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Pr

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2012-05-10 Thread Jojo Jaro
for me. I used a different approach in stimulating turbulence. Jojo - Original Message - From: Jojo Jaro To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Rossi has not ment

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2012-05-10 Thread Jojo Jaro
dient. Axil's speculation about Cesium being the secret ingredient is quite compelling. Jojo - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green T

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2012-05-10 Thread David Roberson
g that I have used in my spark reactor; albeit used in a slightly different manner. Jojo - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologi

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2012-05-10 Thread noone noone
but in >this case we were promised many things on multiple occasions. If they are not >going to keep their word they need to be blunt and tell us, and go black.) > > > > > > > > > > >________ > From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax >To:

Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread Jojo Jaro
park reactor; albeit used in a slightly different manner. Jojo - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies This technique looks si

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2012-05-10 Thread noone noone
d many things on multiple occasions. If they are not going to keep their word they need to be blunt and tell us, and go black.) From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:&

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2012-05-10 Thread Robert Lynn
Spark plugs make for easily removable/modifiable, cheap and easy high voltage, high current and high temperature electrical feed-throughs into pressure or vacuum vessels. I don't think you can read to much into their use. > At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: > >Wow. That is a spark plug

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2012-05-10 Thread David Roberson
Message- From: Alan J Fletcher To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 8:15 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. Page 18 has a spark p

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2012-05-10 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:15 PM 5/10/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. Page 18 has a spark plug on the desk. Interesting... Maybe they preload hydrogen, let in some oxygen and ignite it. Gives a very shar

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2012-05-10 Thread David Roberson
It is a spark plug. This has interesting implications. I wonder if it requires high octane to operate? Dave -Original Message- From: ecat builder To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 7:42 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technolo

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2012-05-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. Page 18 has a spark plug on the desk. Interesting... Maybe they preload hydrogen, let in some oxygen and ignite it. Gives a very sharp pressure/temperature pulse.

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2012-05-10 Thread ecat builder
Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. Page 18 has a spark plug on the desk. Interesting... Seems like an easy way to make it go.. (at least easier than a microwave or other ideas out there..) Anyone know what that blue and orange device is on page 14? I was trying

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2012-05-10 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
-l Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 2:17 pm Subject: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Hello group, Have a look at this new pdf from DGT, dated May 2012: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/2012-05_StatusPicturesFinal.pdf Cheers, S.A.

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2012-05-10 Thread David Roberson
gress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Hello group, Have a look at this new pdf from DGT, dated May 2012: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/2012-05_StatusPicturesFinal.pdf Cheers, .A.

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2012-05-10 Thread John Mee
That would be Mitchell's son Michael. New Energy Times - Issue #36:Cold Fusion Versus LENR: Competing Ideologies John On May 10, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > If you look at the metadata, the piccys are called "Melich Pictures", > presumably taken by Mitchell Melich. > > T >

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2012-05-10 Thread Terry Blanton
Specifically "Melich pics #.jpg". On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > If you look at the metadata, the piccys are called "Melich Pictures", > presumably taken by Mitchell Melich. > > T >

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2012-05-10 Thread Terry Blanton
If you look at the metadata, the piccys are called "Melich Pictures", presumably taken by Mitchell Melich. T

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2012-05-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn wrote: > Why oh why can't they just release some data rather than hinting at it > with a photo of the output results? > Amen. - Jed

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2012-05-10 Thread Robert Lynn
Interesting, P21, 22 are key page for me. But having looked at it for a few minutes it doesn't appear that they are getting particularly good results (though admittedly it is hard to figure what we are looking at and who knows if these are their best results). P21 Power output seems to be approxi

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2012-05-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
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2012-05-10 Thread Daniel Rocha
AMAZING :D 2012/5/10 Akira Shirakawa > Hello group, > > Have a look at this new pdf from DGT, dated May 2012: > > http://www.defkalion-energy.**com/files/2012-05_**StatusPicturesFinal.pdf > > Cheers, > S.A. > > -- Dani

[Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, Have a look at this new pdf from DGT, dated May 2012: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/2012-05_StatusPicturesFinal.pdf Cheers, S.A.