In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:35:11 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
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From: integral.property.serv...@gmail.com
Robin:
This has nothing to do with me (Robin).
Think, say 20 atoms of Ni in a cluster surrounded by H gas. The thermal
energy in the cluster
Robin,
The cost of developing the prototype is estimated at between $100,000
and several million
Check out Brad Lowe's images of his garage set up. You can do it for
much less.
http://ecatbuilder.com/builders/bhlowe
H is the heat transfer agent. Not good.
Why is this not good?
Read
In reply to integral.property.serv...@gmail.com's message of Sun, 26 Feb 2012
17:56:24 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin,
The cost of developing the prototype is estimated at between $100,000
and several million
Check out Brad Lowe's images of his garage set up. You can do it for
much less.
I
I agree, hydrogen will diffuse through metal walls until the hydrogen
pressure (partial pressure) is the same on both sides.
On 24 February 2012 20:54, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:20:54 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
• The high pressure CO2 coolant
Robin:
Think, say 20 atoms of Ni in a cluster surrounded by H gas. The thermal
energy in the cluster increases and transforms the increase of kenetic
energy to the surrounding H. H is the heat transfer agent. Not good.
Better: Surround cluster with other inert medium. Example: mix Cu, Fe,
-Original Message-
From: integral.property.serv...@gmail.com
Robin:
Think, say 20 atoms of Ni in a cluster surrounded by H gas. The thermal
energy in the cluster increases and transforms the increase of kenetic
energy to the surrounding H. H is the heat transfer agent. Not good.
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:20:54 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The high pressure CO2 coolant will eliminate hydrogen exfiltration from
the hot kernel stainless steel reactor kernel walls;
I don't think so.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
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From: Chemical Engineer
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The first real NiH reactor
The travesty of the existing grid is that only 25-45% of the fossil energy
produced in heat and elec. at the utility company ever
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We are talking the cost effective generation
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
The grid of the future is no grid (existing grid will transistion to a hot
backup for some time)
That's what I said in my book, chapter 14. I discussed this with a lot of
power company and EPRI people. Abandoning the distribution network will
save a
and electric cars being notable examples.
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*From:* Axil Axil
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*Sent:* Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The first real NiH reactor
We are talking the cost effective generation of electricity here.
Let us draw proper lessens from
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The economy of scale says that one room sized CO2 supercritical electric
turbine is far more economical then 10 million sterling electric power
generators.
I doubt it. Not when you include the cost of the wires, substations, the
people who repair the wires
.
This won't occur overnight, but seems to be a logical result of power system
evolution.
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:36:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The first real NiH reactor
From: janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
The economy of scale says that one room sized CO2 supercritical
evolution.
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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:36:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The first real NiH reactor
From: janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
The economy of scale says that one room sized CO2 supercritical electric
turbine is far more economical then 10
In the future, I think the industrial sector will become independent power
producers supplying all of their own needs and act as a backup for local
communities. Utility companies will become obsolete long term. I hope
LENR will be the boost that US manufacturing needs to cut costs, expand and
The US industrial sector is outsourcing absolutely everything they possibly
can, including entire industrial plants and oil refineries.
Electric utility companies might be obsolete in the UK because they are
outsourcing their electric power from French nuclear.
Germany will do the same when
2012 16:36:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The first real NiH reactor
From: janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
The economy of scale says that one room sized CO2 supercritical electric
turbine is far more economical then 10 million sterling electric power
generators.
If you
to be a logical result
of power system evolution.
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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:36:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The first real NiH reactor
From: janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
The economy of scale says that one room sized CO2 supercritical electric
turbine
The key issue is that household electricity demand averages about
0.3-1.5kW, but can spike up to 10kW with aircon, ovens, hairdryers, clothes
dryers, toasters, kettles, lawnmowers, powertools etc. It is very hard to
make a system that can cover such a range efficiently or cheaply.
Currently even
After LENR, eLectricity, now virtually free will be exchanged like college
kids share torrents, afterall they are just electrons.
On Monday, February 20, 2012, Robert Lynn wrote:
The key issue is that household electricity demand averages about
0.3-1.5kW, but can spike up to 10kW with aircon,
I agree.
the grid will not die, but will change from a delivery grid to an exchange
grid.
for me it is like internet.
internet did nt kill the mainframe, but replaced it by servers that behave
like
big or small mainframes, providing different services, organized according
to the needs, but
also
The travesty of the existing grid is that only 25-45% of the fossil energy
produced in heat and elec. at the utility company ever makes it to the end
user. The rest goes out the stack/cooling tower/river or ocean water as
Polution to the environment
On Monday, February 20, 2012, Alain Sepeda
you mix two lossed.
the thermodynamic cycles are the same for LENR, even worse for small units,
and lower temperature of reactors.
this is why bigger units might be more efficent that smaller.
the other lossed are transport losses.
but don't forget that in LENR the biggest cost is not fuel but
the thermodynamic cycles are the same for LENR
Yes they are the same Rankine cycle but the 65% excess heat energy
generated locally with LENR can be used to heat water, homes and factories
and in the summer maybe to run absorption chillers for extra cooling.
Also, DGT's reactor can cycle up 5 kW
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
I believe that it was Jed that first made the comparison:
In the past ice (simple, frozen H2O) was delivered to businesses and
homes. Centralized production, then distribution made sense due to the
technological limitations of the time.
good design, but I think it is not adapted to the need.
your design save energy, but at the cost of investment.
the structure of LENR is that it is investment that cost, not fuel.
so my vision is that classic water, moderate temperature, will will,
because it will ensure the least total cost
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
good design, but I think it is not adapted to the need.
your design save energy, but at the cost of investment.
the structure of LENR is that it is investment that cost, not fuel.
so my vision is that classic water, moderate temperature, will will,
We are talking the cost effective generation of electricity here.
Let us draw proper lessens from recent history and current reality.
If the production of electric power was more cost efficient in the
individual home, then natural gas turbines would be now found in everyone’s
basement; but there
I agree with your vision.
just one detail, nuclear energy huge size is alos linked to
the need to concentrate criticall mass, AND safety protection in one
place...
the possibility of medium sized nuclear power plant, like hyperion look
like another compromize.
however saftery is also critical in
A flexible interface matching LENR modular steam boiler that can be fitted
into the current electric power plant infrastructure footprint would have a
large and eager customer base from in-place current electric utilities.
Such an approach would save untold $billions in existing electric power
and inefficiencies. Tax credits and deductions for solar panels and
electric cars being notable examples.
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From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The first real NiH reactor
We are talking the cost effective
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