Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-27 Thread thomas malloy
Jed Rothwell posted, and Ed Storms responded Actually, the article was good and the statement about cold fusion was accurate. Cold fusion is not yet a source of energy of any value. Cold fusion is, however, a demonstrated phenomenon, which might have a value in the future, a possibility the a

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-25 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 10:53 PM 7/24/2005, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Mitchell Swartz wrote: Also, corroborating this, we have made electricity for years using cold fusion systems [since before our first report in Fusion Facts (Hal Fox, editor) a decade ago when a small light bulb first turned on by CF, Are y

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-25 Thread John Coviello
ginal Message - From: "Steven Krivit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:33 AM Subject: Re: Article on energy in National Geographic Mitch, I haven't been following this thread closely. Did I read that you are now able to light a light bulb? Steve

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-24 Thread Steven Krivit
Mitch, I haven't been following this thread closely. Did I read that you are now able to light a light bulb? Steve

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-24 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Mitchell Swartz wrote: Also, corroborating this, we have made electricity for years using cold fusion systems [since before our first report in Fusion Facts (Hal Fox, editor) a decade ago when a small light bulb first turned on by CF, Are you claiming that ten years ago you were able to

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-24 Thread RC Macaulay
Reading the posts on this subject by the various personalities in the group only reinforces my belief that this body of thinkers have some special comaradre that borders on the unique. The strength of the group is not in its total agreement but it's simple ability to function and cohere rega

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-24 Thread Edmund Storms
Christopher Arnold wrote: Ed, Some people love to distort the true intent of a post by quoting out of context or nitpicking to cause an argument. Both tact's are counterproductive but to be expected in any endeavor designed to increase our understanding of Fusion science or even general

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-24 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 12:13 PM 7/24/2005, Ed Storms wrote: The issue is what we consider to be useful. A laboratory instrument is useful when it produces reproducible results based on an understandable process. The level of power only has to exceed the sensitivity of the detection devices by a suitable amoun

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-24 Thread Edmund Storms
Mitchell Swartz wrote: At 11:50 PM 7/23/2005, Ed Storms wrote: I think people in the CF field know and appreciate that two separate issues are important to the field. The first addresses whether the CF effect is real or not, and the second addresses whether commercially useful energy can

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-24 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 11:50 PM 7/23/2005, Ed Storms wrote: I think people in the CF field know and appreciate that two separate issues are important to the field. The first addresses whether the CF effect is real or not, and the second addresses whether commercially useful energy can be produced. It is clear t

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-23 Thread Christopher Arnold
Ed,   Some people love to distort the true intent of a post by quoting out of context or nitpicking to cause an argument. Both tact's are counterproductive but to be expected in any endeavor designed to increase our understanding of  Fusion science or even general science, as some are against pro

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-23 Thread Edmund Storms
I think people in the CF field know and appreciate that two separate issues are important to the field. The first addresses whether the CF effect is real or not, and the second addresses whether commercially useful energy can be produced. It is clear that the effect is real, but it is not yet

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-23 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 06:34 PM 7/23/2005, Ed Storms wrote: Actually, the article was good and the statement about cold fusion was accurate. Cold fusion is not yet a source of energy of any value. Cold fusion is, however, a demonstrated phenomenon, which might have a value in the future, a possibility the article

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms writes: > Actually, the article was good and the statement about cold fusion was > accurate. Oh. Good. Since I have not read it, I did not know the context. That sentence alone sounds bad. - Jed

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-23 Thread Edmund Storms
Actually, the article was good and the statement about cold fusion was accurate. Cold fusion is not yet a source of energy of any value. Cold fusion is, however, a demonstrated phenomenon, which might have a value in the future, a possibility the article leaves open. Ed Jed Rothwell wrote:

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mitchell Swartz writes: > How good could the article be with such inaccuracy about cold fusion? > > The Real Deal, The verdict so far: Cold fusion is achievable by hard effort. I agree that this National Geographic comment is awful, and I think Ed agrees. But as they say in show business, any pu

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-22 Thread Mitchell Swartz
How good could the article be with such inaccuracy about cold fusion? The Real Deal, The verdict so far: Cold fusion is achievable by hard effort. Proof: Update to the Cold Fusion Times (volume 12, number 2) is up at http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html [click on pic for larger pic].

Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-21 Thread Standing Bear
On Thursday 21 July 2005 18:29, Edmund Storms wrote: > The National Geographic in the August issue has a good article on the > energy problem. They even mention cold fusion - "A few scientists have > claimed that cold fusion, which promises energy from a simple jar > instead of a high-tech crucible

Article on energy in National Geographic

2005-07-21 Thread Edmund Storms
The National Geographic in the August issue has a good article on the energy problem. They even mention cold fusion - "A few scientists have claimed that cold fusion, which promises energy from a simple jar instead of a high-tech crucible, might work. The verdict so far: No such luck." The art