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2011-01-14 Thread Roarty, Francis X
lternating layers of insulation and skeletal catalysts is way ahead of the game. Regards Fran Re: [Vo]:More on Ni-H LENR Jones Beene Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:42:03 -0800 Fran, Actually I think the many problems, as I understand what they (Moddel etc) have done (incorrectly) and why they hav

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2011-01-13 Thread Roarty, Francis X
h1 and h2 try to load and unload respectively, I think we need to separate these conditions and control them independently to realize any discounts. Regards Fran From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 2:08 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERN

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2011-01-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Reifenschweiler papers are here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Reifenschwreducedrad.pdf http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Reifenschwsomeexperi.pdf Atlanta is a terrible mess. I have not seen it this bad for years. It took me an an hour and a half to walk 3.5 miles. The main highway, 285, is half-cl

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2011-01-10 Thread Fran Roarty
If the ‘Reifenschweiler effect’ is relativistic as I have posited then it is colder / slower from our perspective but distributed widely over the exterior of the Casimir plate boundary in a shallow resivoir (sail analogy) vs the acceleration / heating that occurs inside the cavity where this re

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2011-01-10 Thread albedo5
NT, Ah, nothing like the glory of Atlanta in the snow. :) It's been awhile since I've seen that - probably too long. I had a lovely shepherd's pie on New Year's Eve, at a glorious little Irish pub in Arlington with my wayward son, back from Kabul for the last time, or so he claims. This journe

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2011-01-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:08:18 -0800: Hi, [snip] >Moreover, if there is a 'dynamic Casimir effect' in the sense of an ongoing >heating effect, then it is likely that there could also be an ongoing >cooling effect, when those small changes in geometry happen. This is

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2011-01-10 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/10/2011 02:01 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:32 PM, peatbog wrote: > > >> Don't lambs eat ivy (kids eat it too)? >> > Wooden shoe? > Heavens no. The stuff's poisonous, the well known but (IMO) toxic old rhyme aside (was the author trying to encourage kids

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2011-01-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
alyst? Regards Fran From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:41 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:More on Ni-H LENR Fran, Actually I think the many problems, as I understand what they (Moddel etc) have done (incorrectly) and why they

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2011-01-10 Thread Jones Beene
More on suspected Casimir thermal anomalies - up or down, as they relate to the subject heading. These effects, if they are real, may or may not be a "set-up" (preliminary stage) for eventual LENR, but there seems to be a direct connection, at least when the experiment is run long enough for trans

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2011-01-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:32 PM, peatbog wrote: > Don't lambs eat ivy (kids eat it too)? Wooden shoe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3oSyr8mHY4 T

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2011-01-10 Thread Jones Beene
Yup... just "kidding" to see who is paying attention. -Original Message- From: peatbog > Thanks. Brrr... Not much heat in the Lamb shift. > > ... guess that's why lambs-eat-oats ... > Don't lambs eat ivy (kids eat it too)? I believe it is mares and does who eat oats. > -Origin

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2011-01-10 Thread Jones Beene
Fran, Actually I think the many problems, as I understand what they (Moddel etc) have done (incorrectly) and why they have not seen thermal gain with Casimir cavities is three-fold: 1)Lack of a spillover catalyst (nickel alone is not sufficient). Spillover is required for pycno to accum

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2011-01-10 Thread peatbog
> Thanks. Brrr... Not much heat in the Lamb shift. > > ... guess that's why lambs-eat-oats ... > Don't lambs eat ivy (kids eat it too)? I believe it is mares and does who eat oats. > > -Original Message- > From: Terry Blanton > Subject: Re: [Vo]:M

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2011-01-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
ecraft returning to their time :_) Regards Fran -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:34 PM To: francis Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:More on Ni-H LENR In reply to francis 's message of Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:01:

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2011-01-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Thanks. Brrr... Not much heat in the Lamb shift. > > ... guess that's why lambs-eat-oats ... I was a little bored. I've been answering physics questions on answers.yahoo.com. Shepard's pie would be good now, cold or not. We have seven inch

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2011-01-10 Thread Jones Beene
Thanks. Brrr... Not much heat in the Lamb shift. ... guess that's why lambs-eat-oats ... -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Subject: Re: [Vo]:More on Ni-H LENR LS = 4.372 x 10^-6 eV => x 1.602 x 10^-19 J/eV = 7.00 x 10^-25 J

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2011-01-10 Thread Terry Blanton
LS = 4.372 x 10^-6 eV => x 1.602 x 10^-19 J/eV = 7.00 x 10^-25 J

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2011-01-10 Thread Jones Beene
spective outside of the cavity perhaps the enormous accelerations reported for UFO's is actually time axis contraction of future spacecraft returning to their time :_) Regards Fran -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 20

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2011-01-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
e: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:More on Ni-H LENR In reply to francis 's message of Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:01:18 -0500: Hi, [snip] > > >Robin, > >When I say gas atoms see themselves as totally normal inside the cavity but >time is accelerated inversely proportional to the cube of the

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2011-01-09 Thread Frank
From: Frank [mailto:froarty...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:48 AM To: 'mix...@bigpond.com' Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:More on Ni-H LENR In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:39:22 -0800 Hi, [snip] That's infinite in

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2011-01-08 Thread francis
Robin, When I say gas atoms see themselves as totally normal inside the cavity but time is accelerated inversely proportional to the cube of the spacing between Casimir plates I am simply applying a relativistic interpretation to the Casimir formula. That is to say the longer vacuum wavelengths

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2011-01-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Sat, 08 Jan 2011 08:51:44 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Robin, >Yes, gas atoms do see themselves as totally normal inside the cavity, and time >is accelerated by an enormous factor inversely proportional to the cube of the >spacing between Casimir plates which act

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2011-01-08 Thread Roarty, Francis X
riginal Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 9:29 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:More on Ni-H LENR In reply to francis 's message of Thu, 6 Jan 2011 07:08:10 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Robin, > > I l

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2011-01-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 6 Jan 2011 07:09:05 -0800: Hi, [snip] >See also http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=275 > > >Ha! and befitting the new year . from this entry, which I had not seen, it >appears that Dufour has already "thrown out the old and rung in the new" - >

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2011-01-07 Thread mixent
In reply to francis 's message of Thu, 6 Jan 2011 07:08:10 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Robin, > > I like the idea of reacting with clusters but you know my >bias toward a relativistic solution where those clusters see themselves as >normal h2 while from our perspective they appear greatly acc

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2011-01-06 Thread Jones Beene
Robin, >In fact, Rossi could (should) have borrowed Dufour's "hydrex" virtual neutron model which goes back twenty years. This might have necessitated slight alteration. See also http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=275 Ha! and befitting the new year . from this entry, which I ha

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2011-01-06 Thread francis
- but from our perspective some of this collision is occurring on the time axis instead of our spatial axis. Regards Fran Re: [Vo]:More on Ni-H LENR mixent Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:23:22 -0800 In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:42:19 -0800: Hi, [snip] >Wel

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2011-01-05 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:22:33 +1100: Hi, [snip] Oops! >These positrons should produce annihilation gammas when interacting with >electrons from the metal. 58% of the 511 keV gammas would get through the 2 cm >lead shielding, and be very readily detected. Th

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2011-01-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:42:19 -0800: Hi, [snip] >Well, Robin - in that case there is almost no difference between your view >and that of the Rossi collective, except at the outset you are borrowing >Mills version of the hydrino, with some changes - whereas they have

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2011-01-05 Thread Jones Beene
Well, Robin - in that case there is almost no difference between your view and that of the Rossi collective, except at the outset you are borrowing Mills version of the hydrino, with some changes - whereas they have 'invented' the 'hypole' probably to avoid any taint of his intellectual property.

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2011-01-04 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:42:21 -0600: Hi, [snip] >Reading the blog, I gaather a "hypole" can also be called "virtual >neutron" in the Hydrogen Nickel system. > >I wonder how such a species might be different from muons. A virtual neutron would effe

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2011-01-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:30:05 -0500: Hi, [snip] > > >On 01/04/2011 03:16 PM, Jones Beene wrote: >> >> _http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338_ Quote: "However, based on the principle of conservation of momentum, as a result of the backlash of th

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2011-01-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:51:12 -0800: Hi, [snip] >Hi Robin, > >> This is exactly what I would expect if the energy of Hydrino fusion were >carried away by a fast IC electron ... > > >What about the transmutation of nickel to copper? This seems to be the >cornerstone

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2011-01-04 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:58:31 -0600: Hi, [snip] >>http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338 > >Interesting speculation. > >What is the atomic number belonging to a "Hypole". Is it stable? 1? If >it is 1, how and why would such an atomic spec

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2011-01-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
This has nothing to do with the results, but I would like to point out again that everything about this website impeaches the credibility of the claims. It cries out "Fake Flake, FAKE, FFFAAAKKKEE FLKKKEEE." To start with, it is called "Journal of Nuclear Physics." You would think that name

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2011-01-04 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Reading the blog, I gaather a "hypole" can also be called "virtual neutron" in the Hydrogen Nickel system. I wonder how such a species might be different from muons. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

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2011-01-04 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/04/2011 03:16 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > > _http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338_ > > This is basically Rossi's blog site and it is attracting the attention > of many international as well as local cranks, due to persistent > rumors of ongoing success from experiments being carrie

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2011-01-04 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Robin, > This is exactly what I would expect if the energy of Hydrino fusion were carried away by a fast IC electron ... What about the transmutation of nickel to copper? This seems to be the cornerstone of his findings and theory.

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2011-01-04 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338 Interesting speculation. What is the atomic number belonging to a "Hypole". Is it stable? 1? If it is 1, how and why would such an atomic species be considered different than Mills' hydrino? Robin, what's an "IC electron"? Regards Steven Vincent

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2011-01-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:16:20 -0800: Hi, [snip] >http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338 > >This is basically Rossi's blog site and it is attracting the attention of >many international as well as local cranks, due to persistent rumors of >ongoing success f