Man on Bridges manonbrid...@aim.com wrote:
Well, recently I had an offer for the 100% electric Peugeot iOn for approx.
34,000.00 euro but that is without approx. 4,000.00 euro tax reduction
because it is considered an environmental friendly car.
At this stage in the development of the
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
I found this document, where NASA found excess heat in H-Ni electrolysis.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/**nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/**
19960016952_1996035672.pdfhttp://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19960016952_1996035672.pdf
They
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
There's a full statement explanation by Brian Josephson at
http://pesn.com/2011/09/26/**9501920_NobelPrize_Laureate_**
to_Test_Cold_Fusion_E-Cat/http://pesn.com/2011/09/26/9501920_NobelPrize_Laureate_to_Test_Cold_Fusion_E-Cat/
This is very helpful
I wrote:
I am amazed that I do not have this paper. I don't even recall hearing
about it. Ni-CF is a small world.
Ah wait. I do have this in the database. It was reprinted in infinite
energy. I think I will upload the NASA copy because it looks impressive.
- Jed
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
If this works repeatable and the energy can be reliable proven, then they
dont need Rossi and his poprietary secret methods and devices.
Assuming the claims made by Rossi and Defkalion are true, they are far
better of any previous version of nickel
As far as I know, the description in PESN is accurate. This is shaping up to
be an important test. It may not be definitive, but it will probably be
better than the previous tests done by Rossi and Levi.
Josephson wrote: It has only cosmetic value if distinguished non-experts
are observers. I
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Yes, but this is not what is needed.
The Rossi device is inaccessible. An accessible and working device is
needed to do LENR research.
Defkalion says they will begin selling commercial quantities of these
devices next year. This will make them
This describes how they will turn off and decommission in a little more
detail:
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/explainer/2011/09/tevatron_shutdown_how_do_you_turn_off_a_particle_accelerator_.html
- Jed
The upcoming test of Rossi's reactor is described here:
http://pesn.com/2011/09/26/9501920_NobelPrize_Laureate_to_Test_Cold_Fusion_E-Cat/
This says there will be a primary steam loop, a heat exchanger, and a
secondary flowing water loop. Rossi confirmed this in his blog. This
also says the
See:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm#Downloads
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
So, Rossi pulled a Steorn on NASA!
Technical problems and delays are normal when testing a cutting-edge
prototype machine. People at NASA know that rocket launches are often delay
or scrubbed. As far as I know, Steorn has never shown any group of
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi has several devices at his disposal;
NASA has lots of rockets too, but on a give day, only one is ready to
launch. Or not ready as it often turns out. Getting one to work is a
struggle. Every cold fusion experiment I know of is the same way.
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not rejecting LENR or every new technology. I am just saying that ecat
has been a very reliable device, except for those tests, when an investor
was visiting with a very reliable assistance, NASA.
That is not what I have heard. I have heard
Google translation:
nuclear physics - according to Smith's own statements.
Smith = Rossi.
As noted here previously.
- Jed
Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Scuze me? I can understand the leaking, but plugging up??? How does water
flowing thru a pipe get plugged???
Dunno. I guess maybe in the portion surrounding the cell. Anyway, I have
heard it gets plugged up.
It is easy to see why it
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
No, just simple formula and economic truth: energy = money.
Here are some economic truths from 1840:
ice = money
bananas = money
In the 1840s, in northern US states people would cut ice from Pons in the
wintertime, store it under sawdust, and
fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
What will happen to my utility pension Jed?
I predict it will be in trouble in 20 years.
Fossil fuel companies and the electric power companies will enter into a
long period of decline, similar to what the US Post Office is going through
now. Except that the post
Susan Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed, this time I can't believe you're talking seriously.
Only one out of 52 properly working ?
I believe you are assuming that on September 5 Rossi had many other reactor
sitting around installed in the large shipping container outdoors, and he
might have
peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
He should get a better plumber.
My heating where I live does not leak ;-)
It was their idea to do it this way.
Without doubt there are methods that avoid this problem (use glycol, avoid
boiling in the primary circuit)
It is not clear to me that this
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
2) It will take a LONG time for the e-Cat to come up to temperature.
As far as I know it never takes more than 10 or 20 minutes. No one has ever
reported that takes longer than this. The test will be at least 12 hours so
warm up time is
I wrote:
It never occurred to me anyone would start the secondary loop after the
machine warms up, but I will tell them they better do it that way.
Better NOT do it that way. I just told them:
The secondary cooling loop should be started before the Rossi device is
turned on. You should
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
When I first heard about this I did not know much about this.
I have readed that Levi claimed there where energy bursts of 100 or 200 kW
some months ago.
With my todays knowledge I know, this is impossible, because it is
impossible to measure
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
I take an old blacksmith's anvil. I warm it in a kiln over two day to
roughly orange-hot (it is going to hold this heat for a LONG time,
especially if well-insulated).
It will be orange hot after about 10 minutes. It will reach the
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
What if they have coils inserted in the table wood board?
That is ridiculous. It would take a huge set of coils on both sides -- in
the table and in the eCat -- to induce 15 kW. Anyone looking at the device
would instantly see what it is. Observers
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Looks like I goofed ... it's now listing 90 liters, so my volume and times
are 3* off : back to the source-code
Your calculations should take into account the fact that people will look
inside the thing and see that it is metal equipment, not a
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
That was my report on Lewan's September trial -- when he didn't see
inside. 90L total is correct, which will come down when it's stripped.
Ah, I see what you mean. Stripped in this case means opened up and
revealed down to the largest single component
I should have said:
While the eCat is warming up, nearly all of the heat that goes in
comes right out. Nothing is stored. The heat is balanced. There is no
SIGNIFICANT endothermic phase, so there is not MUCH storage.
What storage there is, you can measure with confidence. A calorimeter
Regarding the October 6 test of the Russi device:
I do not expect this will be the perfect test. I do not expect it the
be-all, end-all test that answers all questions and convinces everyone. I
doubt that is possible for this kind of machine. Other kinds of machines can
be demonstrated
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
You're absolutely right that residual heat would only result in tempearture
loss and not temperature gain (which briefly appeared in the last demo).
It was not brief. The temperature rose from 22:35 to 22:42, 7 minutes.
That's much too long
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
We can only hope and pray that there is more power observed on the secondary
than is supplied to the primary during peak energy application.
If gains are only observed during heat after death, we will be arguing
the results ad infinitum.
http://twitter.com/#%21/22passi[You have to paste the text into the
Google translate box. It will not autotranslate the page from the URL.]
22passi Daniel Passerini
And here she is! Krivit of the infamous coffee
machine! :)) Yfrog.com/nt3upzj
1 hour ago
22passi Daniel Passerini
Radio
As I mentioned here some weeks ago several Italian researchers use this
kWh/h notation. It means kilowatts. I think kilowatt hours of heat would
be something with a dot operator, not a slash.
This would upset my sixth-grade math teacher.
There are subtle differences between US and European
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I make it not quite an HOUR :
22passi http://twitter.com/#!/22passi Daniele Passerini
the E-Cat goes on in autosustaining
51 minutes ago http://twitter.com/#!/22passi/status/121981413682724864
Did you auto-translate that somewhere? The Google version
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
Here in ITALY, WE USE kWh for ENERGY and kW for POWER.
Not all of you. I know several Italians who use kWh/h, as I mentioned.
Not just Rossi.
kWh/h IS NOT AN INTERNATIONAL STANDARD (IS) UNIT OF MEASURE.
By semplification kWh/h equal to kW, which is a measure of POWER.
Jouni Valkonen wrote:
However world would be much simpler place to live if they just had
used kilojoules per second to indicate power.
That would be the same kind of notation as kWh/h; i.e., power energy
expressed as energy over time. It would be much simpler if they would
would use
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
From Chrome : (But I DID turn on auto-translate for 22passi's website
: maybe it's a global setting. I'll unset it.)
http://twitter.com/#!/22passi http://twitter.com/#%21/22passi
--- but I'm getting new posts in English, not Italian ?
I believe he is now
Robert Leguillon wrote:
I think that you're misunderstanding me. If-And-Only-If the power at
the secondary is LESS than the peak power input to the primary, there
will be arguments about the heat after death or self-sustaining
operation.
In most of these test runs the output power from the
Also, obviously, after the reaction is turned off all the stored heat comes
out as the reactor cools down. You can measure it easily. The numbers are
right there. There is no mystery to this. You can do the same thing during a
calibration with a joule heater.
I advised them not to turn off the
This one has more units than others I have seen, and it is easier to use:
http://www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/units-converter/energy/c/
- Jed
I wrote:
As I mentioned yesterday, a calorimeter can measure an endothermic
reaction as easily and as accurately as an exothermic reaction. In
your hypothetical example with 2 kW going into the system for two
hours, you will definitely see 1.98 kW emerge from the system during
the entire two
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
This one has more units than others I have seen, and it is easier to use:
http://www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/units-converter/energy/c/
- Jed
That's no good ... it doesn't convert kWh to Hartrees !!!
Yes, it does.
1 kWh = 8.257357615e+23 Hartree energy and
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Isn't the primary steam circuit a closed loop? Surely the flow in that
will stop very quickly, so nothing will get to the heat exchanger and
the secondary circuit.
I do not understand what you mean by this. Heat will continue to
transfer from the primary to the
Robert Leguillon wrote:
Rothwell seems to like putting words into my mouth. If the ENTIRE
energy balance is looked at, it will obviously balance. ALL of the
warm-up time (from initial power-application to dry steam) needs to be
in the equation just as much as cool down.
Well of course.
I do not think this came through. Others have reported this. I ran it
though Google to save readers here the trouble.
From: http://twitter.com/#!/raymond_zreick
http://twitter.com/#%21/raymond_zreick
Note that the fifth message down, from 46 minutes ago, says the Delta T
was 5°C for 0.6
From: http://twitter.com/#!/raymond_zreick
Note that the fifth message down, from 46 minutes ago, says the Delta T
was 5°C for 0.6 cubic meters of water per hour. That 600 L/h, 10 L/min, 1666
ml/s. It indicates 3.4 kW if I have done my arithmetic right.
Translated by Google:
raymond
Daniel Rocha wrote:
You must not forget the losses due the conversion between the heat
exchangers. If it was 70%, that means around 5KW for the core.
I pulled 70% out of a hat, by the way. I do not know what the overall
efficiency is. I am just guessing, based on large, crude experimental
vorl bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
This was 1/50 of the 1MW assembly, so it should be putting out
20kw. 3.5kw is a disappointment.
In what universe is that a disappointment? If any other cold fusion test
have produced 50.4 MJ in four hours with no input the researchers would
think they
The most energy dense chemical fuel is liquid oxygen and hydrogen which
combines to form water. It produces 285,800 J per mole. One mole of water is
16 g. Obviously the Rossi cell cannot hold liquid oxygen and hydrogen, or
compressed H2 and O2 gas. It has to have some common liquid or solid
Rich Murray was quoted by Alan J Fletcher:
5 deg rise in water from input to output thermister -- need to
disconfirm the possibility of a small local heater hidden within the
thermister...
Rich Murray [ never a pathological skeptic... -- merely pragmatic ]
REALITY CHECK.
This would not be a
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
This demo is the “weakest yet” per reactor core power density.
What is the reactor core size?
What was the highest output power during the initial powered phase?
- Jed
I forgot to add, yes, this is pathological nonsense.
Murray has leaped to conclusions, as he often does. He has made an assertion
without stopping to think for a moment, and without considering whether it
might be plausible or even possible. He claimed that an electric heater of 3
to 5 kW is
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Make that 18 grams. (16 for the Oxygen and 2 for the Hydrogen).
Yes. Right. Excuse me.
20 g for D2O.
- Jed
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_proof_frames_v401.php
I've added the October experiment to my tables.
So far I've put in two values : the 90 liter total volume, and the 30
liter internal volume reported by Lewan.
After they finish taking apart the reactor they will
Someone wrote:
In previous experiments, however hidden energysources such as fuel
tanks were not excluded.
That is incorrect. A video of a previous test shows the observers lifting up
the device, looking under it, and placing it on a weight scale. They also
looked inside it. Hidden energy
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed, i have a scientific degree. I know what are the unit of measuremnts.
kWh/h, by semplification, is kW, is a unit of POWER.
Using kWh/h for ENERGY is totally wrong. Totally.
Open a physic book and study it.
Yes, I am aware of this. I learned it
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed, so, you can say now that you are convinced that eCat is 100% true.
Unless these people are lying. Or, unless when they open the reactor they
find a 5 kW heating element.
There may be some problem with the test. Let us wait to see the reports. My
I wrote:
As I mentioned they would instantly recognize a pair of 5 kW electric
heater elements attached to a 10 AWG wire.
I mean two heating elements, each 2.5 kW. The on-demand electric water
heaters I have seen always have a pair of heating elements. There is
probably a good reason.
If
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
Now, let me stress that I do not think that there was a hidden heater, but
you're missing the point.
The argument was not for a hidden 5 kW heater. It was for a small heater
near the thermistor (or temperature probe). This small heater
Mattia Rizzi wrote:
You didn’t get the point. What is wrong is that they means kilowatt
but they talk about energy.
Stremmeson used kwh/h (equals to kW) and wrote “energy produced”.
That’s very wrong.
Ah, I see your point. Let us assume this was a mistake. Everyone makes
mistakes.
- Jed
Craig Haynie wrote:
I would like to point out that if it were a battery, then it would have
been hidden and pre-charged before anyone came into the room. There
would be no need to charge it up in front of everyone then.
If there was a battery than when they opened the device they would have
I wrote:
Someone else suggested that there might be a Castro gas hidden in the
table leg.
A canister of gas, for crying out loud.
There is no gas, no wires and no batteries. Get that through your heads.
That is nonsense.
- Jed
Mats Lewan sent me a note with links to his article, a report and the
spreadsheet of temperature data:
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3284823.ece
http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3284962.ece/BINARY/Test+of+E-cat+October+6+%28pdf%29
Here are the most recent 4 messages from Zreick:
http://twitter.com/#%21/raymond_zreick
[This was in English:]
raymond_zreick raymond zreick
we couldn't take pictures of the open cell. and thay didn't show us directly
the secret reactor
17 hours ago
[Translated by Google:]
raymond
peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
If the heat exchanger has only 60% efficieny, then the energy loss is 5kW * 0.4
= 2kW.
Where does the enrgy go? Energy cannot vanish magically, it must go into the
ambient.
Correct. It radiates into the surroundings, from the reactor and the
heat exchanger.
I wrote:
You say there was [a 0.1°C bias] between the inlet and outlet
thermocouples. That is also a disgrace. It is ridiculous. Such things
are easily corrected, and should be corrected before the test begins.
[Dedicated, computer-based instruments should have a smaller bias than
that.
Peter Heckert wrote:
BTW, if the heat exchanger is inside the housing of the e-cat, then
its energy loss is zero,
That can't be. That would violate CoE. All heat exchangers lose heat. If
the heat exchanger is inside the housing, that means the housing is
hotter and radiates more heat than
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
The radio24 pics show the heat exchanger outside. The corrugated
section inside the eCat is part of its internal core-to-steam heat
exchanger.
I don't get it. Please explain. Are there two heat exchangers?
One to condense the steam maybe?? I thought that's what the
Jouni Valkonen wrote:
Eric Hustedt made new graph that shows power output without
considering the efficiency of heat exchanger, what is probably 60-80%
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150844451570375set=o.135474503149001type=1theater
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
The radio24 pics show the heat exchanger outside. The corrugated
section inside the eCat is part of its internal core-to-steam heat
exchanger.
I don't get it. Please explain. Are there two heat exchangers?
One to condense the steam maybe?? I thought that's what the
Peter Heckert wrote:
The primary circuit is closed, the condensed watersteam IS recycled.
Rossi explained this /repeatedly/ in his forum.
The secondary circuit is open. The water is not recycled.
Rossi explained this /repeatedly/ in his forum.
I know he did, and this confused me. As you see
At the risk of starting too many thread . . . There is the graph Jouni
Valkonen mentioned:
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/304196_10150844451570375_818270374_20774905_1010742682_n.jpg
Here it is with a discussion:
I wrote:
The secondary circuit is open. The water is not recycled.
Rossi explained this /repeatedly/ in his forum.
I know he did, and this confused me. As you see in the video he
changed his mind.
This is in the video at around 1:26. We just get rid of it . . . The
camera follows the
I posted this response, which I expect Krivit will not allow --
Krivit wrote:
However, Rossi heated the device with 2.7 kilowatts of electricity for four
hours in advance. This amounts to 38.88 megaJoules of energy.
The implication here appears to be that during 4 hours in advance, the 33.88
MJ
I wrote:
In any case, even if 38 gigawatts had been input before the event, that
would make no difference if all of that heat came out as soon as it went in.
Other people here have confused this issue. For example, Robert Leguillon
wrote:
I take an old blacksmith's anvil. I warm it in a
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
But there was not temperature difference before until the temperature in the
inner circuit topped . . .
I do not know what you mean by topped. Do you mean when the steam or hot
water emerged? Nothing registered in the cooling water loop until 13:20,
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe they didn't turn on the eCat's input pump until
then.
That was my conclusion also.
In other words, there was no steam or water going into the external heat
exchanger, so nothing reached the cooling water. The hot water going into
the eCat sat
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
If he has drained the water from the primary circuit he has wasted energy.
He said in august or september, they had done flow calorimetry previously
with big success.
Why all these confusing modifications and restrictions if this is true?
I can
I wrote earlier that the bias offset adjustment knob on the Omega HH12B
thermocouple only adjusts to a fraction of one degree. That's wrong. I
remembered that wrong. Or I hesitated to turn the screw the whole way.
Anyway, just now I set it to the T1-T2 mode, and then turned the OFFSET all
the way
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
So, you will go on the record? The demonstrations have proven excess heat?
This is irrefutable?
Unless someone refutes it, I suppose. I have not seen any credible
refutations yet. If the Krivit hypothesis is the best the skeptics come up
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
An extended review of the Rossi 6 Oct 2011 test, with a better format graph,
is located at:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Rossi6Oct2011Review.pdf
This is an excellent report. I agree with the analysis, conclusions and most
of the details. I
Jeff Driscoll hcarb...@gmail.com wrote:
Can someone tell me where the exit water themocouple was located? It
meausured a delta T of zero C to approx 9 C during the test.
This is shown in the video. I believe it was on the outside of the pipe
leading out from the heat exchanger, and it was
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
A knowledgeable user on italian discussion board Energeticambiente.it made
a few impressive charts regarding the 7 Oct experiment. Everybody, have a
look at the following link:
http://goo.gl/gm0D0
This links to the message: Analisi Dati
vorl bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
The electric heating power is apparently used to suppress the
reaction, not to enhance it.
I have never heard of any material acting that way. If heat from
the electric heater is used to ignite the nickel, how would
continuing to heat it after it
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, here is a link that should make them available to everybody:
http://imgur.com/a/iwZQ8
Nice! Good graphs!
The Internet is wonderful.
- Jed
You are tired of discussions and number crunching? You are in the wrong
place. Come back after cold fusion is commercialized and the whole world
agrees it is real.
Actually, I suppose this discussion group and LENR-CANR.org will be defunct
when that happens. Kind of like homebrew computer clubs
Akira:
What does this word rendomento mean, in the Google translation?
This is the graph instead of the power output. One sees that the E-cat
provides more energy than it consumes but does not rendomento is
staggering.
- Jed
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
What does this word rendomento mean, in the Google translation?
It means performance, energy yield/gain. The user actually meant to write
rendimento.
Thanks.
I think the author is wrong about that. Energy yield or gain is meaningless
in
Lewan told me that the thermocouples from the handheld meter were taped to
the outside of the metal pipe, and then very well insulated.
People may complain, but actually that is a fine way to do it, in my
experience.
In the video, Rossi unwrapped the pipe and showed where the thermocouples
were
vorl bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
First of all, ignition is only an analogy here. Nothing is or
can be ignited or burned in the chemical sense. There is no
oxygen. There is no fuel. No chemical changes occur in the cells.
Thanks, I needed that reminder. Now I see that pretty much
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Yes of course that will convince everyone. I suppose that if Rossi could do
this, he would, since he says commercial success is the most important
metric.
He said he has used it to heat his office. He said this to Kullander and
Essen and they
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
i have tried to describe my opinion re the latest Rossi event here:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/10/seven-skinny-e-cats-eating-seven-fat.html
This says:
- the primary steam hot water circuit was open and this can mean that the
E-cats
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
I expect he did use it to heat an office. That does not mean he knows how
to do it again.
He has always given the impression, that he can.
I do not get that impression. He says he is trying to commercialize as soon
as possible. He says that is his
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
1. There is no evidence that Rossi could not recirculate the condensate if
he wanted to.
There is evidence that he did not want or he couldnt.
I wouldn't want to if I were him. It sounds like a pain in the butt with no
benefit.
Suppose for the
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
The test was advertised to be 24 hours. Then it was advertised to be at
least 12 hours.
I believe it was the other way around. They said 12 hours, possibly to be
extended to 24.
Hidden power sources are not needed to explain the results. A
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
bending every effort to accomplish these goals. But I have never heard him
say he could be making commercially useful heaters now.
Then you do not listen what he says. Examples for this are overwhelming in
count and content.
One example: A
I pressed send before I finished writing a message. Anyway, I meant to say:
It does not matter how wrong the positioning may be, or how inaccurate or
imprecise the thermometers are. Inescapably, it would cool to room
temperature and all . . . would return to where they were when the test
began.
This was shown in the video on the table. Lewan says this was a Termometro a
4 canali TM-947 SD.
4 canali evidently means you can attach up to 4 thermocouples.
http://www.bergamomisure.it/parametri-ambientali/termometri/termometro-datalogger-4-canali-tm-947-con-scheda-sd.html
- Jed
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Gee ... so why the heck didn't they use the other two on the steam input
and output?
And why the heck didn't they use the SD card to record and then publish all
data points?!? Instead of relying on Lewan to write down the temperature
from time to time.
Rossi
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This was shown in the video on the table. Lewan says this was a Termometro
a 4 canali TM-947 SD.
4 canali evidently means you can attach up to 4 thermocouples.
http://www.bergamomisure.it
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
Mats calibrated the thermometer and indeed he saw the 1 degree offset in
calibration. Temperature of icy water was measured 1.0°C. Therefore this
error is known.
I discussed that with him. I do not think that was a 1.0°C error. He was
seeing
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