Good Job Stephen!
Re your image replacement for the title - exactly which flavour are you
using? I don't think I've seen one which uses an empty span. My personal
preference is styling the h1 with the background image and relevant sizes
and then nesting a span inside that h1. That nested span
I agree with you, Ross. CSS is so much cleaner and easier. I made the
jump from tables to CSS (with the help of TopStyle Pro) and I haven't
looked back.
Kudos to Stephen for doing it right.
Will
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Certified Web Designer (BCIP)
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Using display: none defeats the purpose if accessibility is your concern.
That's the Fahrner technique see: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fir/
They see the same thing you report when css is on and images off. You need
to position it off page with a negative (or really high) margin. Might
Cheryl
I'm not a big fan of image replacement anyway but since we can do so much
with web design/development these days (Microsoft browsers permitting of
course) but also have so many different aspects to consider 9 times in 10 I
move more towards keeping things accessible and don't bother with
Ross Clutterbuck wrote:
Good Job Stephen!
Thanks Ross! Means a lot coming from the Master of the Universe and all :)
Re your image replacement for the title - exactly which flavour are
you using? I don't think I've seen one which uses an empty span. My
personal preference is styling the h1 with
FWIW, I don't use the image replacement techniques either since plain text
alt tags especially when combined with structural mark-up so the alt gets
the proper heading mark-up without images is best in most circumstances.
Nice to have options though if needed due to special circumstances.
As
-Original Message-
From: Stephen Caudill
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:08 PM
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Subject: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com
Was wondering if I could get a few folks to mosey by:
http://lf.mechavox.com/
And let me know if they encounter any display quirks
Trusz, Andrew wrote:
Looks good and all, validates as transitional, but line 33 is:
div id=cartWrapper align=center
align=center?
Oh lord. No telling, really. I guess old habits die hard. I've fixed
that
Say Drew, you're on *nix right? Is that what you tested on? Using
Konqueror?
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Trusz, Andrew wrote:
Looks good and all, validates as transitional, but line 33 is:
div id=cartWrapper align=center
align
Trusz, Andrew wrote:
I am on mandrake at home, at work it's an agency custom image of xp. That
may sound innocent but it should make you shudder to the roots of your soul.
If you can wait about 2 hours I'll let you know how it looks on Konqueror.
Sure! It's not really a biggie, but I am
Should look about the same as the report I gave you on Safari. It is based
on Konqueror.
Cheryl D. Wise
Certified Professional Web Developer
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
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Trusz, Andrew wrote:
Looks good and all, validates
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Trusz, Andrew wrote:
LOL @ agency custom image of xp... My last work place had custom versions
of IE 5.5 that were installed as part
Drew:
Oh since I haven't figured out (or even found) the new web based interface
for the list, I'll have to shoot the reply to the gmail box if that's ok?
http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk
Thanks,
Linda
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Trusz, Andrew wrote:
No you can't imagine that! Nobody is that depraved. This is a sustained,
decades long, group effort rooted in ever compounding bad decisions.
Oh, sure I can! I've developed along side too many MicroSoftHeads to
not be able to imagine it. Glad you're not having to suffer
Linda Cole wrote:
Drew:
Oh since I haven't figured out (or even found) the new web based
interface
for the list, I'll have to shoot the reply to the gmail box if that's ok?
http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk
Oooh! I like the new interface :) And you can get an RSS feed too??
Oh good you were listening!
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Drew:
Oh since I haven't figured out (or even found) the new web based
interface
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Drew:
Oh since I haven't figured out (or even found) the new web based
interface for the list, I'll have to shoot the reply to the gmail box if
that's ok?
http://intm
http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk
Oooh! I like the new interface :) And you can get an RSS feed too??
Well, it's not well formed, but I can still pull it up in FeedDemon :)
Snifty! Any way we could we get a link put on WDVL to this?
I believe it's in the works to have it
Well, one significant problem in Konquerer 3.1.4. The navigation list loads but
then becomes obscured. The links change from words to a symbol which looks like
stacked equilaeral triangles turned on edge. Other than that, the page looks
fine.
And you're right, Stephen, the web interface is
Trusz, Andrew wrote:
Well, one significant problem in Konquerer 3.1.4. The navigation list loads but then becomes obscured. The links change from words to a symbol which looks like stacked equilaeral triangles turned on edge. Other than that, the page looks fine.
And you're right, Stephen, the
Was wondering if I could get a few folks to mosey by:
http://lf.mechavox.com/
And let me know if they encounter any display quirks. This is a
template, one page only and it's due for delivery today, so feedback is
much appreciated. I'm especially interested to hear from the mac users
on the
scheme is good, etc. Nice site.
Cheers,
Scott
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Was wondering if I could get a few folks to mosey by:
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Was wondering if I could get a few folks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Win XP SP2
SlimBrowser 4.02.004 (Tabbed interface, IE engine)
hnnh. You just never know :)
1024 x 768
300+ KB/sec
Page loaded quickly, but with this connection speed that's probably not
a significant metric. I don't have any modem-connected systems anymore,
so I can't
William Stewart wrote:
Stephen,
Congratulations on a solid design. Everything worked like it was
supposed to and it looks great. Let's just hope that the client likes
it! :)
Thanks Will :) I can't take all the credit though. I'm not the graphic
maven behind it, just the code jockey. I've
No mac-users out there? Gotta be one... just a cursory glance would be
appreciated.
tia,
Stephen
Stephen Caudill wrote:
Was wondering if I could get a few folks to mosey by:
http://lf.mechavox.com/
And let me know if they encounter any display quirks. This is a
template, one page only and
Stephen,
Verrry nice =) I really like it and those drop downs look great! Love the
pen/paper/ink on the right. Viewing Firefox on XP, 800x600 and
1024x768. Love the effect when it opens up to 1024x768, super!
Deb
www.puterbug.com
At 11:07 AM 12/7/2004, you wrote:
Was wondering if I could
PBC Web Design wrote:
Stephen,
Verrry nice =) I really like it and those drop downs look great! Love
the pen/paper/ink on the right. Viewing Firefox on XP, 800x600 and
1024x768. Love the effect when it opens up to 1024x768, super!
Thanks Deb! Again, I must hat-tip the designer. He's
to satart is the Special Areas page,
:-)
http://lf.mechavox.com/
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Gerrie Warner wrote:
to satart is the Special Areas page,
Thanks Gerrie! Good catch :)
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Looks nice, works well and I didn't notice the lag in Firefox mentioned
earlier. I did see more of a lag in IE both in some of the images loading
and on the first rollover. Which brings up another point, if I were just
using IE I wouldn't stay on the site long because on my tablet pc the text
is
Cheryl D Wise wrote:
Looks nice, works well and I didn't notice the lag in Firefox mentioned
earlier. I did see more of a lag in IE both in some of the images loading
and on the first rollover. Which brings up another point, if I were just
using IE I wouldn't stay on the site long because on my
Re the fixed font size argument with your designer, take a screenshot,
reduce it to 55% of the size (assuming you have an 800x600 monitor) then
resave it and send it to the designer and say it is a screenshot as seen by
someone on a high resolution medium to high end system. If you need to you
can
Stephen,
I can test on a mac on netscape 7 in the morning if you have the time for
that?
John.
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Thanks John, but it flapped it's little wings off to the client around
an hour ago :) They're fine with serving IE5.2 no style sheet (along
with NS 4.x) and when they checked on their mac in Safari 1.1, they
didn't see anything out of place :)
All's well that ends well...
Thanks,
Stephen
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