[web2py] Wait to have a universal name

2010-03-15 Thread Jason Brower
I want to have a variable(name) that can be read and manipulated by all active sessions. This is useful for a timer that I want to implement. It would make it easy for me to still have access by multiple users if needed. Do I really need to save it to a database first? (It would be much more labor

[web2py] Re: How to call other web2py applications from within a web2py application

2010-03-15 Thread selecta
whooops forgot to link the slice I made http://www.web2pyslices.com/main/slices/take_slice/74 On Mar 13, 4:27 pm, mdipierro wrote: > The answer to your question is long. I will try write a blog post > about it. > > On Mar 12, 6:26 am, Rahul wrote: > > > > >     Hi All, Massimo, > >            I'

[web2py] page layout question...

2010-03-15 Thread Heo
here's my problem File read.html ( extend Layout.html) {{extend 'layout.html'}} {{=post.title}} {{include 'rating.html'}} It works well i change{{ include 'rating.html'}} ---> {{include}} And in rating.html add {{ extend read.html }} It doesn't work ... Error:NameErro

[web2py] Re: How to call other web2py applications from within a web2py application

2010-03-15 Thread Rahul
Thanks Massimo and selecta. I hope I'll get the answers soon :-) Thank you, Rahul On Mar 13, 8:27 pm, mdipierro wrote: > The answer to your question is long. I will try write a blog post > about it. > > On Mar 12, 6:26 am, Rahul wrote: > > >     Hi All, Massimo, > >            I've been designi

[web2py] What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread solom
Hi I've uploaded web2py to my hosting account in site5 (a shared account, unix server) Then I've run: python2.6 web2py.py Now what? how can I access web2py from the browser? what is the URL to type? When I ran the above command in putty SSH, it replied with: === w

[web2py] Re: Checking if a webserver if running web2py

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
good point. On Mar 14, 8:58 pm, Graham Dumpleton wrote: > You can potentially also use any error page as a tell tale fingerprint > if defaults are used as different frameworks are going to each have > their own. > > For example: > > http://www.web2py.com/examples/default/xxx > > Returns: > > inva

[web2py] Re: Wait to have a universal name

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
Using a database for this purpose is the most general solution. We do not have another mechanism for that and the reason is that everybody would want a different locking mechanism. For example is a client is using a variable should all other clients be locked and prevented from accessing the varia

[web2py] Re: Web2py Plugin IRC Chat Comments

2010-03-15 Thread selecta
On Mar 13, 4:25 pm, mdipierro wrote: > If I understand you are asking for a web2py level plugin system vs an > app level plugin system. This has nothing to do with relocation of > plugins under an app subfolder. Am I correct? Well maybe but consider the following pseudo ls /app1/.cvs /app1/con

[web2py] Re: page layout question...

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
Good point. A view file can include as many other view files as you like but can only extend one if itself is not included. Think of if as a tree structure. It is either parent who decides who the children are (include them) or the child decides who its parent is (extend it). You can have it both

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
You do not have one. By default the url is (as it says) http://127.0.0.1:8000 but that is a development setup and the url is not visible from outside for security reasons. You have various options depending on what you want to do: 1) run without https python2.6 web2py.py -i 0.0.0.0 -p

[web2py] Re: Web2py Plugin IRC Chat Comments

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
I understand the argument. Each of the system have pros and cons. If a plugin resides outside the app you have these problems: 1) app would not be portable because plugins would not be packages with it 2) there would be problems if different apps require different versions of the same plugins Any

[web2py] Re: Wiki for n00b?

2010-03-15 Thread ludwa6
Thanks for the supportive response, Patrick. Of course you are right, from an educational perspective, your recommended approach tends to be most effective, in my experience also. My problem is: i do have business need for a Wiki with all the typical functionality -anything less would likely not b

[web2py] Validation per object

2010-03-15 Thread Mengu
Hi all, Currently web2py validation works on CRUD and SQLFORM. But some of us don't use those and build their forms by hand. But when this is the issue we have to validate every input ourselves in the controller which is not nice so I have came up with an idea. I can set an error_message per field

[web2py] Re: Validation per object

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
No way. ;-) First of all, I am not sure what is the problem you are trying to solve. Even if you have custom forms and you build all the form html manually you can still use the existing validation mechanism. Second, there is a logical problem. Validators are designed to take the input as submitt

[web2py] Re: Validation per object

2010-03-15 Thread Mengu
> First of all, I am not sure what is the problem you are trying to > solve. Even if you have custom forms and you build all the form html > manually you can still use the existing validation mechanism. I don't want to use crud or sqlform or any html helper. i build my forms manually. and actually

[web2py] texarea in SQLFORM formatting

2010-03-15 Thread JmiXIII
Hello, I'd like to format a string field in my view of a SQLFORM. I manage to do it via : form.element(_name='field')['_attribute']=x Whereas it works fine for a datetime and an integer field, it doesn't work for a string field, which I suppose is render with a textarea widget. Here is an exemple

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread solom
Thanks very much for your reply. I find it hard to understand those terms. But what if I created web applications locally, on my computer, then upload them to my web account by ftp or control panel. Can I then turn them into websites for users to access through their browsers? Please give me simpl

Re: [web2py] Re: Checking if a webserver if running web2py

2010-03-15 Thread Jason Brower
Hey let's throw a wrench in a pick IIS server error pages! :P --- j On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 02:06 -0700, mdipierro wrote: > good point. > > On Mar 14, 8:58 pm, Graham Dumpleton > wrote: > > You can potentially also use any error page as a tell tale fingerprint > > if defaults are used as different

Re: [web2py] What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread Jason Brower
Just a guy but you have to go to the webpage you have registered but perhaps your ip addy... try typing: ifconfig It will tell you the ip addy of your server... try that with the :8000 at the end. BR, Jason On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 01:04 -0700, solom wrote: > Hi > > I've uploaded web2py to my hostin

Re: [web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread Jason Brower
You can certainly develop your program locally just fine. When you want to upload it to your server you still need a web2py setup because web2py creates dynamic pages for people that view it with their browsers. Odds are when you access your server you use the same address as you would with your we

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread solom
You mean the ip address that my host gave to my domain name? or do you mean the ip address of the shared server? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from th

Re: [web2py] Re: Web2py Plugin IRC Chat Comments

2010-03-15 Thread Alex Fanjul
El 15/03/2010 10:40, mdipierro escribió: I understand the argument. Each of the system have pros and cons. If a plugin resides outside the app you have these problems: 1) app would not be portable because plugins would not be packages with it I heard this argument many times from you Massi

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread solom
I tried that, and putty replied me this: web2py Enterprise Web Framework Created by Massimo Di Pierro, Copyright 2007-2010 Version 1.76.5 (2010-03-11 15:19:08) Database drivers available: Starting hardcron... WARNING:root:GUI not available because Tk library is not installed choose a password:zmsm

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread solom
I tried as you said, and putty replied with: web2py Enterprise Web Framework Created by Massimo Di Pierro, Copyright 2007-2010 Version 1.76.5 (2010-03-11 15:19:08) Database drivers available: Starting hardcron... WARNING:root:GUI not available because Tk library is not installed choose a password:*

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread solom
then in less than 2 or 3 minutes putty says: killed. Does that mean the severs closes after only 2 or 3 min.? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

[web2py] Re: db access from admin

2010-03-15 Thread Wes James
Massimo, can not db.select() be used in /admin 0.py, etc. ? On Saturday, March 13, 2010, snfctech wrote: > I'm not sure I can help, but I would like to know what you're talking > about. > > What "edit_area api helper"? > > Can't you view your tickets directly in the errors directory? > > >

[web2py] Re: Validation per object

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
> > Second, there is a logical problem. Validators are designed to take > > the input as submitted by a web form and not as passed to the input > > function. For example for a IS_DATE a validator expects a "string" in > > the user locale, while input expects a datetime.date object or an ISO > > ser

[web2py] Re: texarea in SQLFORM formatting

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
Because probably Rques is type 'string' not 'text' so it rendered by a INPUT not a TEXTAREA On Mar 15, 5:46 am, JmiXIII wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to format a string field in my view of a SQLFORM. I manage to > do it via : > form.element(_name='field')['_attribute']=x > Whereas it works fine fo

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
could it be a DNS issue? can you try http://:8000 ? On Mar 15, 6:58 am, solom wrote: > I tried as you said, and putty replied with: > web2py Enterprise Web Framework > Created by Massimo Di Pierro, Copyright 2007-2010 > Version 1.76.5 (2010-03-11 15:19:08) > Database drivers available: > Start

Re: [web2py] Re: Web2py Plugin IRC Chat Comments

2010-03-15 Thread Thadeus Burgess
> plugins as they require by some kind of "plugin panel" or so... In deed, > that is the meaning of "plug-ins", isn't it? > But you must to share the plugins to be portable (as you say) maybe we are > not talking about plugins at all...(but components). Massimo's definition of a plugin is not the

[web2py] Re: db access from admin

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
admin does not have a db and, in my opinion, should not have one. I am still a bit lost about what you want to do. On Mar 15, 7:21 am, Wes James wrote: > Massimo, > > can not db.select() be used in /admin  0.py, etc. ? > > On Saturday, March 13, 2010, snfctech wrote: > > I'm not sure I can

[web2py] Re: Web2py Plugin IRC Chat Comments

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
Thadeus is right. We have gone over this before. We should use the work plugins ONLY for the current mechanism and use a more specific name for other types of objects people now refer to as plugins. When I think about hooks I think of a CMS app for example and I would like to see a subset of curre

[web2py] Re: db access from admin

2010-03-15 Thread Wes James
edit_area Ajax to data search for API items. On Monday, March 15, 2010, mdipierro wrote: > admin does not have a db and, in my opinion, should not have one. > > I am still a bit lost about what you want to do. > > On Mar 15, 7:21 am, Wes James wrote: >> Massimo, >> >> can not db.select() be used

[web2py] Re: Web2py Plugin IRC Chat Comments

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
Alex, once more let me clarify. I am not opposing your proposal. I am just saying that the proposal is vague because (as far as I understand you) what you ask can already be done. I just have never posted an example because I do not like it. The fact I do not like it does not mean I want to preven

[web2py] Re: db access from admin

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
You wrote a patch to editarea but I am not sure I have the latest one. Can you email it to me again so I can see it? massimo On Mar 15, 8:39 am, Wes James wrote: > edit_area Ajax to data search for API items. > > On Monday, March 15, 2010, mdipierro wrote: > > admin does not have a db and, in m

[web2py] Re: texarea in SQLFORM formatting

2010-03-15 Thread JmiXIII
You're right this a string field , but when I tried to use first [_size] to format it like the other fields... but it does not work, the field is always the same length. I have the same pb with another string field. I am rendering them in a table with no attrivutes, so I do not think that matter. I

[web2py] Re: How to call other web2py applications from within a web2py application

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
For now look at the following links that may help you: For an example of {{=LOAD(...)}} http://gluonframework.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/web2py-ajax-and-forms/ You can load an action from the same app or other apps. For ways an app can share data with another app: http://www.web2py.com/book

[web2py] Re: texarea in SQLFORM formatting

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
There is this in base.css input.string { width: 420px; } textarea.text { width: 420px; height: 200px; } That is why the _size is ignored. You can remove the code in base.css or use css, instead of _size. On Mar 15, 10:18 am, JmiXIII wrote: > You're right this a string field , but w

[web2py] Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread mr.freeze
What is the best way to prevent caching of all files in a subfolder of static from being cached. The files are served by web2py. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, sen

[web2py] pyrtf musings

2010-03-15 Thread Anthon
The latest version of pyrtf on sourceforge (as indicated in the apendix of the web2py book: http://pyrtf.sourceforge.net) is 0.45, however the one included in gluon/contrib is indicated as 0.46 (according to the README). Did this come from some other place, or is that version update because of the

Re: [web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Mar 15, 2010, at 5:14 AM, solom wrote: > then in less than 2 or 3 minutes putty says: > killed. > Does that mean the severs closes after only 2 or 3 min.? This suggests that your hosting company imposes a limit on how long a program can run. The only way you can run web2py in such an environm

[web2py] Re: Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
Static files? In the end it is the browser that caches them. web2py does not ask the browser to cache them. You can try serve them using a custom controller. In this case web2py would do (under the hood): response.headers['Content-Type'] = contenttype('.'+request.extension)

[web2py] Re: pyrtf musings

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
pyrtf is no longer maintained. The most recent I could find is: http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.lang.python.announce/2007-05/msg00048.html I think at this point we should consider our a for. Want to be the maintainer? I will take your patch is applied to 0.46. On Mar 15, 10:28 a

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
site5 say they support fcgi, so you should be able to use web2py/ fcgihandler.py Something like this: export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:/path/to/web2py/ cat << EOF > ~/public_html/.htaccess RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(fcgihandler.py) RewriteRule ^(.*)$ fcgihandler.py/$

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
p.s. make sure fcgihandler.py is executable and edit the first line: #!/usr/bin/env python in case python is somewhere else. On Mar 15, 10:54 am, mdipierro wrote: > site5 say they support fcgi, so you should be able to use web2py/ > fcgihandler.py > > Something like this: > > export PYTHONPATH=

Re: [web2py] Re: Web2py Plugin IRC Chat Comments

2010-03-15 Thread Alex Fanjul
Ok Thadeus, Massimo, Maybe I'm wrong with my understanding of the plugins system. This time, I wasn't talking about folder locations or hooks, but the relation between plugins and apps portability (as a feature). I will try to get deeper in the plugin system, really I'm not an expert programmer

[web2py] Re: Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread mr.freeze
Yes, static files. I am basically asking how to set the cache control headers for static files. Models don't get processed so I'm not sure where to do it without hacking main.py. Am I thinking about this wrong? On Mar 15, 10:37 am, mdipierro wrote: > Static files? In the end it is the browser

Re: [web2py] Re: Web2py Plugin IRC Chat Comments

2010-03-15 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I think I good exercise (for all of us) would be to try create an empty "plugins" app an try to write plugins that go in there but can be called from other apps and see what difficulty we encounter. The current plugins will not work this way because of the models. Shared plugins should prob

[web2py] Re: Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
You raise a good point. There is no way to do it because I assume on a production system this should be done by the web server. Perhaps we should have something like routes.static.py in the static folder with cache configuration options for the files in there. On Mar 15, 11:00 am, "mr.freeze" wro

[web2py] Rocket - windows binary issues

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
Due to my lack of familiarity with Windows and my refusal to spend time on it I am running into a problem. I cannot build the web2py binary including ssl 1.15 in order to use rocket. A simple solution would be to make the window binary with Python 2.6 instead of Python 2.5. Any objection? Massimo

Re: [web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:54 AM, mdipierro wrote: > site5 say they support fcgi, so you should be able to use web2py/ > fcgihandler.py The 'killed' message is ominous, though. Perhaps the use of fcgi and a long-running web2py process requires a different account level. I speak from experience. web2

[web2py] Re: auth expiring sessions too fast

2010-03-15 Thread Ted G
I guess I have misinterpreted this code from my db.py which was part of the web2py distro that I uncommented. The comments within the code stated the sessions would be stored in memcache. try: from gluon.contrib.gql import * # if running on Google App Engine except: db = SQLDB('sqlite:/

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
If I understand this, the fcgi process is started by the web server and therefore may be subject to different restrictions. I never tried it myself on a shared hosting environment. On Mar 15, 11:21 am, Jonathan Lundell wrote: > On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:54 AM, mdipierro wrote: > > > site5 say they su

[web2py] Re: auth expiring sessions too fast

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
You are right. That does use memcache. I forgot about it. I will run some tests and let you know. Massimo On Mar 15, 11:27 am, Ted G wrote: > I guess I have misinterpreted this code from my db.py which was part > of the web2py distro that I uncommented. The comments within the code > stated the

Re: [web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:29 AM, mdipierro wrote: > If I understand this, the fcgi process is started by the web server > and therefore may be subject to different restrictions. > I never tried it myself on a shared hosting environment. That would be good, yes. Not an option for me, sadly. Fortunate

Re: [web2py] Re: Web2py Plugin IRC Chat Comments

2010-03-15 Thread Thadeus Burgess
Why should we call it something different when the rest of the open source community views it the same as we do? I mean, that is where we got the definition of plugin, is from other open source projects. Iin my research of pluggable systems you have the following architecture. Base System -> The

Re: [web2py] Re: Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread Thadeus Burgess
Ahah! One step closer to app level routes! -Thadeus On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:15 AM, mdipierro wrote: > You raise a good point. There is no way to do it because I assume on a > production system this should be done by the web server. > Perhaps we should have something like routes.static.py

Re: [web2py] Re: Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Thadeus Burgess wrote: > Ahah! One step closer to app level routes! Hmm, that's a good thought. I'm looking at the overall handling of URL parsing and routing, and hadn't been thinking about this. So what I'm thinking now is that the global routing would be only the

Re: [web2py] Re: Validation per object

2010-03-15 Thread Thadeus Burgess
Mengu Not an option to add validation on the database level other than database type options (like column type, isnull, etc etc). Massimo's point is that SQLFORM and the Validators provide a pivotal role in web2py, they take the incoming HTML formatted data, and convert this to python types. (

[web2py] Re: Rocket - windows binary issues

2010-03-15 Thread mikech
Nope, not here. On Mar 15, 9:20 am, mdipierro wrote: > Due to my lack of familiarity with Windows and my refusal to spend > time on it I am running into a problem. I cannot build the web2py > binary including ssl 1.15 in order to use rocket. A simple solution > would be to make the window binary

[web2py] Re: Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
shold this problem be solved as part of an app-level routes? I was looking at it as different. On Mar 15, 11:42 am, Thadeus Burgess wrote: > Ahah! One step closer to app level routes! > > -Thadeus > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:15 AM, mdipierro wrote: > > You raise a good point. There is no way

Re: [web2py] Rocket - windows binary issues

2010-03-15 Thread Timothy Farrell
This would be a good way to include more coverage within web2py since it will span more versions. Probably the only noticeable difference would be some deprecation warnings. Perhaps you could turn off deprecation warnings in the build? -tim On 3/15/2010 11:20 AM, mdipierro wrote: Due to my

Re: [web2py] Rocket - windows binary issues

2010-03-15 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:20 AM, mdipierro wrote: > Due to my lack of familiarity with Windows and my refusal to spend > time on it I am running into a problem. I cannot build the web2py > binary including ssl 1.15 in order to use rocket. A simple solution > would be to make the window binary with Pyt

[web2py] Re: Rocket - windows binary issues

2010-03-15 Thread reyelts
How would this impact those of us who develop with the current Windows binary image and then test/deploy with GAE which requires Python 2.5? I hate developing directly with dev_appserver.py because it runs so much slower. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

Re: [web2py] Re: Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread Timothy Farrell
"When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." --/Maslow's hammer/ On 3/15/2010 11:42 AM, Thadeus Burgess wrote: Ahah! One step closer to app level routes! -Thadeus On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:15 AM, mdipierro wrote: You raise a good point. There is no way to do it be

Re: [web2py] Re: Rocket - windows binary issues

2010-03-15 Thread Timothy Farrell
That's a good point. I can only think of two possible implications: - Possible deprecated messages on the console (would not show up in production though) - It will allow 2.6 syntax whereas production would not (so you would have to be careful) Neither of these would be blockers for me if I w

[web2py] Re: Rocket - windows binary issues

2010-03-15 Thread Magnitus
No objection. The python website encourages new users to use python 2.6 anyways. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py

[web2py] Re: Checking if a webserver if running web2py

2010-03-15 Thread Magnitus
On Mar 14, 9:58 pm, Graham Dumpleton wrote: > You can potentially also use any error page as a tell tale fingerprint > if defaults are used as different frameworks are going to each have > their own. Not only that, I find it very revelative that it states whether the app is wrong, the controller

[web2py] Re: Web2py Plugin IRC Chat Comments

2010-03-15 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
On Mar 15, 11:37 am, Thadeus Burgess wrote: > Why should we call it something different when the rest of the open > source community views it the same as we do? I mean, that is where we > got the definition of plugin, is from other open source projects. Thadeaus is hitting the same mark we have h

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread solom
> You can certainly develop your program locally just fine. > When you want to upload it to your server you still need a web2py setup Is there any way I can just use web2py locally to create an application, then somehow compile my application into a website that consists of .py files only (or any

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
On Mar 15, 1:34 pm, solom wrote: > > You can certainly develop your program locally just fine. > > When you want to upload it to your server you still need a web2py setup > > Is there any way I can just use web2py locally to create an > application, then somehow compile my application into a websi

[web2py] Re: Validation per object

2010-03-15 Thread DenesL
On Mar 15, 6:28 am, Mengu wrote: > > First of all, I am not sure what is the problem you are trying to > > solve. Even if you have custom forms and you build all the form html > > manually you can still use the existing validation mechanism. > > I don't want to use crud or sqlform or any html hel

Re: [web2py] Re: Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread Thadeus Burgess
I was just raising the point that if we are going to have routes for static files, why not have routes for the app while we are at it? At least this way, the routes would be more "portable" so that routes can then be packed along with your app? Or would this be trying to open a can of worms that

[web2py] Re: Validation per object

2010-03-15 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
On Mar 15, 5:28 am, Mengu wrote: > > First of all, I am not sure what is the problem you are trying to > > solve. Even if you have custom forms and you build all the form html > > manually you can still use the existing validation mechanism. > > I don't want to use crud or sqlform or any html help

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread solom
> Draw a map out of the "territory" > Have fun - work locally I'm sorry, I did not understand. So is it possible or not? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscri

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
On Mar 15, 2:24 pm, solom wrote: > > Draw a map out of the "territory" > > Have fun - work locally > > I'm sorry, I did not understand. > So is it possible or not? To understand what you are asking, you need to listerally draw yourself a diagram of what is involved in serving a web page (static c

[web2py] Re: Web2py Plugin IRC Chat Comments

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
As I said. Everybody here wants something different. I am only concerned with allowing each of you to be able to provide a proof concept of what you want and not commit to implement any change in web2py that will be restrictive in the long term. When I use the word "plugins" I just mean these: htt

[web2py] Re: Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
Not at all. app level routes would be feasible and easy to implement. I just did not have the time. The issue is not implementing as much as designing the syntax. Should the main routes delegate? Should it be explicit? Should it be implicit? (I think implicit) That we have the issue of setting ca

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
Perhaps this will help. http://gluonframework.wordpress.com/ On Mar 15, 1:34 pm, solom wrote: > > You can certainly develop your program locally just fine. > > When you want to upload it to your server you still need a web2py setup > > Is there any way I can just use web2py locally to create an

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
It is possible to move web2py applications since they are just folder. As explained here: http://gluonframework.wordpress.com/ You still have to setup web2py to run a web server (the built-in one or apache or a different one). That depends on a lot of details on shared hosting since each one is d

Re: [web2py] Re: Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:54 PM, mdipierro wrote: > Not at all. app level routes would be feasible and easy to implement. > I just did not have the time. The issue is not implementing as much as > designing the syntax. > > Should the main routes delegate? Should it be explicit? Should it be > implic

Re: [web2py] Re: Checking if a webserver if running web2py

2010-03-15 Thread Thadeus Burgess
I have routes_onerror( (*/*, '/init/default/error') ) the controller just brings up a search based on the requested_uri. -Thadeus On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Magnitus wrote: > On Mar 14, 9:58 pm, Graham Dumpleton > wrote: >> You can potentially also use any error page as a tell tale

[web2py] Re: Prevent caching of certain files

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
In general I think the routes.py should be in applicaitons// On Mar 15, 3:28 pm, Jonathan Lundell wrote: > On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:54 PM, mdipierro wrote: > > > > > Not at all. app level routes would be feasible and easy to implement. > > I just did not have the time. The issue is not implementing

Re: [web2py] Re: db access from admin

2010-03-15 Thread Wes James
Nevermind - is working - there must have been an error somewhere else yesterday - I am now getting results from a sqlite db :) yhaaa! On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Wes James wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:38 AM, mdipierro wrote: >> You wrote a patch to editarea but I am not sure I ha

[web2py] Re: Where do you use web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread Dane
I'm building an app for finding ultimate frisbee tournaments, leagues, and pickup games by date, geographical proximity, and other criteria on GAE with a Flex front end. Hope to eventually expand to team, league, and tournament management with online payments, and add a play diagramming tool and so

[web2py] Re: Countdown system...

2010-03-15 Thread weheh
The approach is sound. Devil is in the details, as usual. As for the rest of your question, it is a python, and not a web2py, issue. Read carefully the python doc on datetime. datetimes can be compared and you can add and subtract them. You can also create a datetime variable and set it to a certai

[web2py] Re: Rocket - windows binary issues

2010-03-15 Thread reyelts
The second of those has already bitten me once. :( But then, I'm a relative Python newbie. It would be really nice it GAE provided for newer versions... but people have been begging for that for years. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" gr

Re: [web2py] Re: Checking if a webserver if running web2py

2010-03-15 Thread Albert Abril
* I was considering re-routing all mispelled urls to a default error page* Maybe, setting it by default, could be a secure feature. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote: > I have > > routes_onerror( (*/*, '/init/default/error') ) > > the controller just brings up a search base

[web2py] Re: Checking if a webserver if running web2py

2010-03-15 Thread Christopher Steel
On Mar 14, 2:51 pm, Albert Abril wrote: > Hi! > > There's some way to check to check from the browser if a web is running > web2py? > For example, Could i know ifwww.web2py.comis running web2py from the > browser? > > Just curious. > Thanks. Depending on your host OS you could should be able to

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread solom
I did follow the steps in that site5 wiki page for django, using a file where I saved only the lines you gave me for web2py: export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:/public_html/web2py/ cat << EOF > ~/public_html/web2py.htaccess RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(fcgihandler.py) Rew

Re: [web2py] Re: Countdown system...

2010-03-15 Thread Kuba Kucharski
There is a solution for you, I found this usefull for my research with similar things: http://docs.python.org/library/datetime.html look at timedelta object -- Kuba -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send e

[web2py] Re: URL structure for multilanguage site

2010-03-15 Thread Jiri Zahradil
Hi, @1 yes, routes_in does the magic for you, it works perfectly for me, you should also consider to modifying routes_out to convert links back to /yourapp/en/ format or you can do it "manually" in your templates ... @2 yes, internalization framework T(...) should be used just for application

[web2py] Re: Checking if a webserver if running web2py

2010-03-15 Thread Richard
On Mar 16, 7:31 am, Thadeus Burgess wrote: > I have > > routes_onerror( (*/*, '/init/default/error') ) > > the controller just brings up a search based on the requested_uri. > > -Thadeus do you reckon web2py should do this by default? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to t

[web2py] Re: web2py edit_area api lookup

2010-03-15 Thread mr.freeze
This is looking good! What about pulling the data from a web service instead of storing in db? It seems like this would be painful to maintain. Perhaps Massimo could expose epydocs somehow. On Mar 15, 6:04 pm, Wes James wrote: > You can test this by just replacing your admin with this admin.  It

Re: [web2py] Re: Checking if a webserver if running web2py

2010-03-15 Thread Thadeus Burgess
Nope. The default is 404... but I do think it should say 404 instead of Invalid Function But thats configurable in routes.py :) -Thadeus On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Richard wrote: > On Mar 16, 7:31 am, Thadeus Burgess wrote: >> I have >> >> routes_onerror( (*/*, '/init/default/err

[web2py] Re: What is the url to access my web2py?

2010-03-15 Thread mdipierro
Mind that this export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:/public_html/web2py/ was an example is this really the path to web2py /public_html/ web2py/ ? At this point it should be running. I am not sure if you need to restart apache. Perhaps they have a web interface to do so. You need to ask them. Massimo

[web2py] Re: Countdown system...

2010-03-15 Thread Richard
add a few seconds: >>> from datetime import datetime, timedelta >>> d1 = datetime.now() >>> d2 = d1 + timedelta(seconds=5) difference in seconds: >>> delta = d2 - d1 >>> delta.days * 86400 + delta.seconds Richard On Mar 15, 4:57 pm, Jason Brower wrote: > I want to have a nifty countdown o

Re: [web2py] Re: Countdown system...

2010-03-15 Thread Jason Brower
Yeah, I did it with dattime and in particular the timedelta function. Thanks guys. The trick was that you have to actually seta "dummy year" as they have called in it tutorials. Kind of weird but I understand the issues with it. Solved, Jason On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 23:59 +0100, Kuba Kucharski wrot