[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Message from the Code of Conduct Committee

to silence criticism makes the organization look even more corrupt and bad. MZMcBride -- Original Message -- From: MediaWiki <w...@wikimedia.org> To: MZMcBride <w...@mzmcbride.com> Date: 04/19/2022 2:58

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

n common? It seems like it would be much more common for a user to simply write "[[Examples]]" currently to achieve the same output. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] problematic use of "Declined" in Phabricator

licit that the Phabricator installation at phabricator.wikimedia.org is for all members of the Wikimedia movement. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

r her own "history" in this sense? It sounds like you all are compiling private dossiers about users. Is that correct? Do these records include only complaints or other parts of the user's history as well? MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mail

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

a, for example, selective reporting and selective enforcement. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

ic venues, I actually think a sudden embrace of increased, questionable bureaucracy is pernicious. Gergo Tisza wrote: >- Also, do consider that MZMcBride had the option to reach out to the CoC >committee and ask their help in understanding exactly which of his >comments were problematic and in

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

hortage of bad decisions and corruption around Wikimedia Foundation Inc., so I imagine we'll be on the same side once more in short order. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] (no subject)

what it's worth, here's Daniel using the same language in 2016: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110728#2227182>. And MatmaRex using the same language in the same year: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130478>. A quick search of Phabricator for "what the fuck", &q

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

orm now considered a formal offense in tasks and commits? I genuinely do not know. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

Ori Livneh wrote: >MZMcBride has a very good ear for grievances, and he knows how to use his >considerable social clout to draw attention to them, and then use words >as a kind of lightning-rod for stoking outrage and focusing it on >particular targets. I'm going to paraphrase what yo

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

temporarily ban from >phabricator. We hope you notice this type of behaviour is not welcome in >our technical spaces. > > Please read Code of conduct in depth: >https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct > > Best > > This email was sent by TechConductCommit

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

ve re-enabled your account. > >I apologize for the inconvenience, I'll make some adjustments to the >filter to hopefully prevent more false positives. Ah, okay. Thank you for the quick reply and remedy! I appreciate it. MZMcBride ___ Wikitec

[Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

to know if the person ever plans on undoing this unexplained disablement. I have over 56,000 unread e-mails in my "Phabricator" folder, so if I've overlooked an explanatory e-mail, please let me know! In the meantime, I guess I'll just, uhh, log out to view Phabricator.

Re: [Wikitech-l] FW: Warning on behalf of Code of conduct committee

Tim Starling wrote: >On 25/06/18 07:46, MZMcBride wrote: >> Wikimedia Foundation Inc. employees have blocked the ability of new >>users to report bugs or file feature requests or even read the issue >>tracker. But yes, please focus on me calling Andre a troll for resetting >

[Wikitech-l] FW: Warning on behalf of Code of conduct committee

butors. > >Best > >-- >This email was sent by TechConductCommittee to MZMcBride by the "Email >this user" function at MediaWiki. If you reply to this email, your email >will be sent directly to the original sender, revealing your email >address to them. Wikimedia Foundati

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can/should my extensions be deleted from the Wikimedia Git repository?

rchive this repository please?" > >- From Chad: "Yeah no that's not how it works. If it's being hosted on >gerrit.wikimedia.org, it needs a CoC file. If you object to that, you can >find hosting elsewhere." It was really inappropri

Re: [Wikitech-l] What ways are there to include user-edited JavaScript in a wiki page? (threat model: crypto miners)

etwork requests being made to non-Wikimedia domains. As Lucas noted in this thread already, there are also tasks such as <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135963> that could be worked on, if there's sufficient interest. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit login oddities

en't forced to debug or work around issues like this, of course. This trick can (in this case, for me, did) reduce annoyance and at least unblocked me to allow me to leave a reply in Gerrit. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reboot of irc.wikimedia.org

appears that joining/creating arbitrary channels is not allowed. This makes me think that bot accounts and others would be disallowed from joining small/quiet wiki channels until those channels are re-created by by the server/rc-pmtpa, unless some kind of whitelist or workaround has been im

Re: [Wikitech-l] Create aliases for sister projects wikilinks

y have namespace aliases per-wiki (such as "WP:" --> "Wikipedia:" as you mention), but local interwiki links would be another list to manage and reference when parsing pages. Local rules like this can also make using cont

Re: [Wikitech-l] Create aliases for sister projects wikilinks

nterwiki_map>? It sounds similar to what you want, except interwiki prefixes defined on that page apply to all public Wikimedia wikis. Do you want local-only prefixes? Would templates (i.e., {{wict|hello}} instead of [[wict:hello]]) work? MZMcBride ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] TechOps update

Victoria Coleman wrote: >Hi everyone. > >We are making some exciting changes in TechOps! > >[...] This is all really great news! Thanks for sharing this. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for a developer support channel

. If this is not your suggestion, I'd like to understand how adding a venue will improve matters. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple overview image about how MW loads resources in clients

, creating an awesome custom user >experience which foster engagement of developers and finally make the >world a really wonderful place to live in (hmm). Using CamelCase for module names may be specific to particular wikis. The English Wikipedia doesn't seem to do this as much: <https://en.wikip

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we drop revision hashes (rev_sha1)?

here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-September/063445.html MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wiki farm configuration

y >so. This mailing list is a fine place. There's also mediawi...@lists.wikimedia.org if you prefer mailing lists, or many IRC channels on the freenode network. Potentially helpful channels are #mediawiki or #wikimedia-tech. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Last Call: ArchCom/TechCom Charter

ot; are counter-acted by the finer print (i.e., the actual proposed implementation of this committee). MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference

own user interface, a sane or desirable architecture? MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference

} } ); It works pretty well. It's certainly easier than going to Special:Preferences on each wiki. Some links: * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T16950#2185759 (April 2016) * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154956#2929966 (January 2017) MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Github organization

now that we note in repository descriptions on GitHub to use Gerrit, but maybe we should revisit GitHub pull request integration at some point. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introducing the MediaWiki Platform Team!

ia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2017-April/046477.html MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introduction

at <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page#footer> or <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page#footer> or <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home#footer>. Suggestions for more places to put this link or better text to make

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

ts a hangout, it is extremely unlikely I would attend unless I was >specifically proposing an RFC. Proprietary and capped at 25 participants? No thank you. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Provisional notes for proposed revision table restructuring

and popular (yay). Other parts, particularly dealing with users, seem to be hairier and less settled. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: EventStreams launch and RCStream deprecation

unctional and dependable (and completely quirky) API it continues to serve as. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [T62399] Possible alert message to show

in title? Maybe something like this: "Please verify your new page title: Foo:Foo:Bar. 'Foo:Foo:' in a page title is usually a mistake." But the deeper issue is <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50239>. The namespace drop-down menu

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please review "Amendments" section of the Code of Conduct

d be held, as previously discussed and advertised. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Citation Hunt database

u're confusing these two database tables: * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Category_table * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Categorylinks_table It looks like you loaded category, but the script is complaining about categorylinks. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] +2 request for yurik in mediawiki and maps-dev

edia development, Wikimedia Foundation staff have created significantly more havoc and disruption than volunteers. Please don't forget that. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] +2 request for yurik in mediawiki and maps-dev

there's external reasons for +2 removal, that can happen without WMF >in the picture and I imagine there are rules for this which can be >applied. Revocation of +2 is documented at <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/%2B2#Revocation>. MZMcBride _

[Wikitech-l] IRC meeting today (Wednesday) about "RFC: Accessing page properties from wiki pages"

, 2017 at 22:00 UTC (2 p.m. PST, 5 p.m. EST, 11 p.m. CET) in #wikimedia-office on chat.freenode.net. All are welcome! MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Status & Meeting Minutes, WD3

d in is, in some ways, an RFC, usually with one or more associated Phabricator Maniphest tasks. Sometimes with associated mailing list or on-wiki discussion. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Status & Meeting Minutes, WD3

hich can be a good nudge for people to finish drafting a task or wiki page, to make a decision to accept or decline, to comment on a proposal, etc. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Divide XML dumps by page.page_namespace (and figure out what to do with the "pages-articles" dump)

forward this e-mail to the xmldatadumps-l and wiki-research-l mailing lists, I would very much appreciate it. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Arbitrary Wikidata querying

e Magnus and I have a ton of respect for him, but I don't want anything to do with anything called Listeria. It continues to seem like querying is an afterthought for Wikidata and this continues to boggle my mind. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Arbitrary Wikidata querying

sensible editing user interface, but I don't care about all of that, I just want to be able to query data out of this large data store. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deploying the Linter extension to Wikimedia wikis

and that's about it. There's now <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152822>. Subramanya Sastry wrote: >On 10/24/2016 08:42 AM, MZMcBride wrote: >>Does the extension distinguish between errors and warnings? Are there >>gradations of errors? For example, deprecated syntax v. inv

Re: [Wikitech-l] CREDIT in 37 minutes

Adam Baso wrote: >And the videos. Enjoy! > >YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_sf-kHAQkg >WebM on Commons: >https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CREDIT_-_December_2016.webm Wow that was fast! Can we have you all do the uploads for the upcoming Wikimedia Developer Summit?

Re: [Wikitech-l] What happened to RobLa?

ments, that will need attention. And for planning purposes, it would be helpful to know if RobLa will attend the upcoming developer summit in January 2017. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deploying the Linter extension to Wikimedia wikis

stinguish between errors and warnings? Are there gradations of errors? For example, deprecated syntax v. invalid syntax? I wonder if the name "Linter" is overly generic. This extension will only activate on wikitext, correct? It won't lint other content mode

Re: [Wikitech-l] Setting up a new Tomcat servlet in production?

production but had a clear implementation path. Some potentially interesting links: * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Hierator * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89331#1537849 MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feature Requests: Suggeted new features

edback, and it gives us a centralized place to track progress, blockers to implementation, and more. I'm glad to see you're excited to contribute. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/li

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

ing systems? I'm genuinely curious where you think time and effort is best spent. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Opening up MediaWiki dev summit in January?

is having unstructured time to explore and think and poke and discuss with people about pet projects and other neat ideas. The structured and more formal sessions, with their broad themes for whatever year it is, are usually boring and ill-fitting. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Looking for WikiDev Summit main topics and volunteers

e-mail address, case-insensitive login, and a user-configurable "display name" field that's shown in page histories, on user pages, etc. I'm interested in volunteering to provide feedback about the upcoming summit. I've attended one or two summits in the past and I have thou

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to login with API?

de is needed in a specific tool/script/application. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Loosing the history of our projects to bitrot. Was: Acquiring list of templates including external links

tasks to keep the sites from falling apart. In fairness, there's a Parsing team at the Wikimedia Foundation. We all recognize that there's a problem and I think we're making decent progress toward better defined, though not necessarily saner, behavior. MZMcBride __

Re: [Wikitech-l] "basic" usergroup

hanged to expose this user group? And why isn't the "highvolume" user group similarly exposed? MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to find a repository?

n/ECNO/> as far as I can tell. Given how horrible Phabricator is in this area, I'd recommend using GitHub for now. You can include the string "@wikimedia" to filter results; e.g., <https://github.com/search?q=%40wikimedia%20pageview=Everything> or

Re: [Wikitech-l] How widely is Flow being used?

uot;wmgFlowEnableOptInBetaFeature" configuration variable in InitialiseSettings.php.txt to see which wikis set this variable to true. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

Is there a request for comments page or some kind of documentation that defines and explains these concepts? MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Etherpad outage

rovide and distribute backups to mirrors and others. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] First image scaler based on Debian jessie

kis"). I asked on that task whether Ori's idea to install multimedia packages on all application servers at <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T35186#1771760> had been explored further. Or perhaps more directly: is there a willingness to ho

Re: [Wikitech-l] git.wikimedia.org (Gitblit) going away on June 29th, redirected to Phabricator

plan according to <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137224>. This allows logged-in users to customize the default query. Similar to Maniphest, Diffusion will use the top-sorted custom saved or built-in query as the application's start page. MZMcBride ___ Wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] git.wikimedia.org (Gitblit) going away on June 29th, redirected to Phabricator

to set up their own online Git repository browser (e.g., GitLab or Gogs) or contribute patches upstream to Phabricator Diffusion to add missing features. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should we switch the default category collation to uca-default?

dministrator, if it requires running maintenance/updateCollation.php. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Which Phabricator project for site issues?

streamlined and focused on sane user behavior for the most part, but I've found the projects/tags input in Maniphest to be one of its weaker areas. You have to know that tasks related to "transclusion" are often associated with "MediaWiki-Templates". Finding and ma

Re: [Wikitech-l] update: wikipedia.org portal

><https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110070#1653320> that we were >specifically trying to improve only wikipedia.org to keep our work >manageable and maintain cost effectiveness for our efforts. Regarding portals other than www.wikipedia.org, perhaps you can respond at <

Re: [Wikitech-l] update: wikipedia.org portal

ki pages on Meta-Wiki don't seem to reflect or acknowledge this at all. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] update: wikipedia.org portal

and not being able to, for example, share code between the project portals, is terrible. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] update: wikipedia.org portal

Quim Gil wrote: >On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:07 AM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote: >> It's frustrating and annoying that your happy team hijacked this >>portal... > >(snip) > >Hostility and anger are not welcomed in this mailing list, neither in the >rest o

Re: [Wikitech-l] historical trivia: who first picked UTC as Wikimedia time, when and why?

DT)". There are many older signatures, to be sure, and some of them in early 2002 include a date, but without a time zone. This signature seems to confirm that the time zone was U.S. Pacific time in 2002. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] garbage characters show up when fetching wikimedia api

MZMcBride wrote: >The error you're getting generally means that the JSON was malformed for >some reason. It seems unlikely that MediaWiki's api.php is outputting >invalid JSON, but I suppose it's possible. I left a note on the Phabricator task that Marius linked t

Re: [Wikitech-l] garbage characters show up when fetching wikimedia api

encode or decode the data explicitly. The error you're getting generally means that the JSON was malformed for some reason. It seems unlikely that MediaWiki's api.php is outputting invalid JSON, but I suppose it's possible. Since you're coding in Python, you m

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tool Labs and my new job at WMF

Thank you for this e-mail and for your work so far, such as redesigning the Wikitech main page. I think this new role will be a good fit for you. I left some initial thoughts on the Meta-Wiki talk page: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/15530025>. MZM

Re: [Wikitech-l] Diff algorithms: the shootout

that heavy diffs are a very small portion of traffic. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of Related Pages feature

n arbitrary page image will empower editors. This is preferable to indiscriminately slapping three sometimes irrelevant photos and article links on every page. Part of what makes Wikimedia wikis great is that we exercise editorial control. We're not serving up unprocessed machine output,

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom RFC update

ly >across all wikis. This will require A Lot of Work™. >Extension:GlobalPreferences is a rough draft of the functionality." > Leaving in inbox, RobLa will ask Kunal. I'm not sure why this task is seemingly so difficult. Is it "just" the user interface portion or ar

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

in the various data centers. That would allow you or others to take this list of hardware and research its energy use. Most of the hardware is off-the-shelf from Dell and other companies, I believe, so information about its specifications, including energy us

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Legacy wikibits will no longer loaded by default on Wikimedia wikis and MediaWiki 1.27

ode is acceptably low enough to properly remove? Or could we just have 'importScript' indefinitely be an alias for 'mw.loader.load', etc.? MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Per-language URLs for multilingual wikis (RFC T114662)

cus to our information architecture is reasonable and prudent. (I know Brion and Gabriel have both worked on this previously.) MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update from the Wikimedia Performance Team

0>. Being unexpectedly logged out lately has been a bit annoying, though I don't know if it's related to the Performance team or some other team. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mail

Re: [Wikitech-l] Using assignees for RFC shepherd

y impression was that people were more concerned with quickly pushing through a new feature (with unknown user interface implications) than with solving the deeper underlying problems we have with page lists. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikite

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data visualization for wiki

mmons (coordinates, >categories, descriptions, quality assessment, etc). Sort like adding an >additional data layer and when everything works fine then migrating that >information into Commons. Any great ideas there as well? (not so great >ideas could be sent to list :P ) Sure. M

Re: [Wikitech-l] New [[Main Page]] for Wikitech

better than the >old page and that none of you hate it with a fiery passion that >compels you to revert it rather than helping me make it better. > >[0]: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Very nice! Thank you for doing this. MZMcBride __

Re: [Wikitech-l] meta: AbuseFilter on mediawiki.org and related sites

r filter false positives on mediawiki.org. My approach has been to disable the problematic filters immediately and leave an explanatory note at <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_talk:AbuseFilter>. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitec

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia dumps

ust fixed, so page IDs changing should now hopefully be rarer. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki message delivery problems

1954> ("Add support to MassMessage to allow using the sender's username for deliveries")? MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ifexists across wikis

the time. If the wikitext is parsed/evaluated on page save, I don't see why ifexist lookups would be impossible to batch. We're already using the pagelinks table for the ifexist functionality to properly work, as I understand it (cf. <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T14019&g

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP 7.0.0 Released

a bit silly/shortsighted to use "new" in a name. A more specific project name such as #php7 might be better. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ending RFC review meetings a little early

to say, I can't imagine anyone cares what your Google Calendar settings are, but I do think people shouldn't let themselves or their thoughts be cut off by arbitrary time limits. The start and end to the "formal" discussion can be decided by the person op

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pageview API

e_Sheen" and "November_2015_Paris_attacks" are easy examples). MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pageview API

Krinkle wrote: >The only hurdle I found is that the 'articles' property is itself >nested/double encoded JSON, instead of a plain object. This was somewhat >unexpected and makes the API harder to use. I filed <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118931> about this. MZMcBride wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

ropriate discussion venue for this, so I'll move to wikimedia-l. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

really like some greater insight into the thought process here. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

s 4 And Up" video is decent (<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ffBJ4sVUb4>), if anyone is interested in a non-textual Git guide. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Random rant

raightforward choices. Even if we implemented options 2 or 3 immediately, the lack of external visibility into the queue and the lack of notifications for queue submissions would very likely also need to be addressed. Option 1 would obviate the need for such addition

Re: [Wikitech-l] Audit of inline styling in the main namespace of the English Wikipedia

o focus on "display: none;" specifically, there's strong evidence to suggest that the numbers are accurate, if not a bit surprising in some cases. :-) MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Audit of inline styling in the main namespace of the English Wikipedia

Robert Rohde wrote: >On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:13 AM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote: >>The following are the top ten instances of inline styling from main >>namespace pages on the English Wikipedia, as of about 2015-10-02: >> >>1552197 text-align: c

Re: [Wikitech-l] Audit of inline styling in the main namespace of the English Wikipedia

> should make this fairly easy to do, if anyone is interested. I tried to methodically document all of the relevant source code and commands that I used, so that this same audit or an audit on another project or dump would be less work. MZMcBride ___

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