Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-28 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
There are other considerations. For instance, default fonts usually have been chosen to provide the maximum amount of glyphs of all the fonts. Making changes here can have unintended consequences with either missing glyphs (mostly on Windows), or inconsistent rendering of words due to font

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visualising CSS debt - cleaning up our messy codebase

2013-10-28 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
It would be cool if we could have a jenkins tool or something keeping eye on the site and reporting about addition and removals of such 'similar' rules. DJ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-11-05 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I found a usability problem with some versions of the webkit/chrome inspector for localStorage due to this, it is being tracked here: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123750 On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/11/13 15:31, Mark A. Hershberger

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adding a html builder to Lua

2013-12-03 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I'd say that is a great idea ! No matter what template you are building, you probably need to output Html, so this should be suited for core inclusion. We probably should consult User:Toohool though, who originally wrote the module, with regard to how to license the code. DJ On Mon, Dec 2,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is file location and file size aviable to templates

2014-01-04 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Not to long ago I started a discussion on an mw.file object https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lua_requests#How_about_a_mw.file_api I didn't really get much further than that though. DJ On 3 jan. 2014, at 21:03, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: You can do {{filepath:Verschaffelt

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2014-02-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 16 feb. 2014, at 09:13, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: On webfonts: it's not just that it would take more research. We have already tried webfonts and failed miserably so far. UniversalLanguageSelector is an example of how even the most well-intentioned efforts in this area

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2014-02-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 17 feb. 2014, at 21:49, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: Note that there was a small update to the feature on Friday, which removed the max-width restriction and tweaked some padding. I'd encourage anyone who hasn't tried the beta feature in a few weeks to give it another

Re: [Wikitech-l] Non-Violent Communication

2014-02-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 17 feb. 2014, at 21:45, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: +1 When I read certain threads on this list, I feel like the assume good faith principle is often forgotten. Because this behavior makes me not want to participate in discussions about issues I actually care about, I

Re: [Wikitech-l] ogv.js - JavaScript video decoding proof of concept

2014-03-06 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 6 mrt. 2014, at 14:26, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: Spent some time tonight on audio/video sync; it's now working both with native Web Audio API and with the Flash audio shim. Check out a video with someone talking, and marvel at the synchronization!

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 7 mrt. 2014, at 12:27, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that reflects a media file (sound photo movie no matter). When items

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Zurich Hackathon: Creating a map namespace

2014-03-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 8 mrt. 2014, at 00:47, Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.com wrote: Maps great, yes. Here's what *I* think Wikipedia needs. First and foremost, OSM is a database, just like Wikipedia articles are data (don't get me started). It's a foreign database, which means that you have the foreign

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Zurich Hackathon: Creating a map namespace

2014-03-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 8 mrt. 2014, at 21:48, Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: This is thinking way too simple. Would it be nice to be able to do this ? Sure, but we already have dynamic maps. WikiMiniAtlas

[Wikitech-l] What are you looking for in CodeEditor ?

2014-03-24 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I've been doing some work on the Lua/CSS/JS CodeEditor to make it and its toolbar a bit more usable, but I'm looking for some input on what YOU want. I've listed some ideas here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59924 A list of key commands is here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Implementation JSON based localisation format for MediaWiki nearly completed

2014-04-02 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 2 apr. 2014, at 20:22, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: use tabs for indentation instead of spaces to be like the rest of

[Wikitech-l] Removing WikiEditor iframe, toc and templateeditor modes

2014-04-03 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
There are some elements of WikiEditor that never really 'graduated' from the alpha/beta phase. In my opinion, these unmainted and hopefully unused pieces of code should be removed. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/123645/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/123647/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-10 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I echo Brian's assessment here. Screen readers don't care about fonts. They only look at what the semantic elements tell you. DJ On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: And has any testing been done with screen readers and dyslexia readers to I would be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-10 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
My sentiment here is that all of this has supported every latent opinion that I had about the project when it was started. Years of maintaining templates, CSS and Javascript on English Wikipedia had taught me not to mess with fonts unless it was very targeted (preferring a specific font for a

[Wikitech-l] Another Wikipedia design concept

2014-04-15 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
A friend of mine just spotted this: http://dribbble.com/shots/1508672-Wikipedia-concept For inspiration and discussion :) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Output from Zurich Hackathon - yet another maps extension!

2014-05-14 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
PS, i'm building an instance that is running this extension. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: During the Zurich hackathon, DJ Hartman, Aude and I knocked up a generic maps prototype extension [1]. We have noticed that many maps like extensions keep

[Wikitech-l] Recommended viewing: talk on Cognitive Science and Design

2014-05-14 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I just love this Google I/O 2013 talk on human perception and cognition, and its implications for interactive and visual design. It is accessible, but with a lot of information and applies very well to us I think. I'm sure that many designers know all about this and some have probably seen the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Output from Zurich Hackathon - yet another maps extension!

2014-05-20 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
FYI, Limn is also sort of taken in the MediaWiki/WMF namespace: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Limn DJ On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.org wrote: 2014-05-14 19:43 GMT+03:00 Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.org: For the short term, I think

Re: [Wikitech-l] Accessing current template information on wiki commons description page

2014-06-03 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Actually, what you really seem to want is to make use of iiprop=extmetadata, which is an API that makes use of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Machine-readable_data included in the various templates. The MultimediaViewer project also uses this API.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

2014-06-30 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
In addition to what Trevor stated, we recently even merged a JS change that 'took away' a JS enhancement from IE6 users, leaving them just the plain HTML form function. So I think we are getting closer to a point where when it comes to JS/CSS we will be removing some existing JS/CSS functionality,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Preliminary ogv.js integration for Ogg playback in Safari, IE

2014-07-15 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
This is impressive Brion, really nice work. I can actually play multiple 160p clips at the same time on my iPhone 5S. I have no controls in iOS yet but other than that.. Really getting somewhere. DJ On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: I spent the weekend

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email for London Hackathon Participants

2014-07-15 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
We should probably update parts of The laptop setup guide https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathon/Laptop_setup, which is linked from the Hackathon coordination page. I notice there are a few parts that are still in their 2012 state, which probably could use a bit of updating (Like using Smultron

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-10 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 10 aug. 2014, at 14:27, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: However, we've clarified in a number of venues that use of the MediaWiki: namespace to disable site features is unacceptable. If such a conflict arises, we're prepared to revoke permissions if required. This protection level

Re: [Wikitech-l] User rating for beta features (was Re: Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings)

2014-08-20 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I fully agree with Dan on that. I'd be much more interested in +/- votes on feedback statements. I think that might be a direction worth exploring. A low barrier like that might help bring a more complete picture of sentiment on problems and ideas. DJ On 20 aug. 2014, at 19:08, Dan Garry

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is simplicity is the key to success of Echo and Watchlist?

2014-09-02 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Most users are not active in six discussions at a time. But some are active in dozens... I too have felt an 'overload' with the recent Flow integration in Echo on mw.org. And my assessment here is... someone confused a watchlist (a place where I go to get informed), with notifications and used

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is simplicity is the key to success of Echo and Watchlist?

2014-09-02 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 09/02/2014 07:47 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: When I watch a talk page, that doesn't mean I want to be NOTIFIED of everything on every page. Wouldn't simply turning off flow notifications do? Or, perhaps more

Re: [Wikitech-l] Special Page or Action

2013-04-23 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Can it not in some way be included in action=info ? DJ On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, At the risk of starting an emacs vs vim like discussion, I'd like to ask if I ought to be using a SpecialPage or an Action in my use case. I want to

Re: [Wikitech-l] MathJax opt-in for all visitors

2013-05-03 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I think it's a nice idea if to trigger such a suggestion. I would add something to it though. I'd add a timer that checks how long it takes to markup the page, and that when it detects that pages take extremely long to finish rendering with MathJax, automatically proposes to the user to 'switch

[Wikitech-l] Hackathon idea: How about a live bug triage and code review hour ?

2013-05-21 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I was thinking about the past hackathons and I realized that the interaction with eachother is often the best way to learn during these events, it's so much quicker than using gerrit/bugzilla/email/IRC. I also remember that a lot of the time, we do a lot of informal review and assessment of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Analytics on status.wikimedia.org

2013-05-27 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
BTW, that really should at least be mentioned in the footer of that page if you ask me. It seems at least parts of status.wikimedia.org are configurable in terms of styling, so perhaps the footer can be made to mention this. Compared to the rest of our ecosystem, it might only have a few users,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
In general, because extensions are not as easy to maintain as wikipages are for Gadget developers. They don't WANT to use gerrit, git, go trough review, etc. It's the same reason why we have a ton of toolserver projects that could easily be extensions. DJ On 17 jul. 2013, at 23:52, Yuvi Panda

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
If people don't want to put their code through review this is scary to me They do get their code reviewed. The rules are however usually simple 'it needs to work'. Not everyone has time to spend a gazillion hours on getting familiar with git, gerrit, jshint, git-review, resourceloader, i18n,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 18 jul. 2013, at 00:25, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: If people don't want to put their code through review this is scary to me They do get their code reviewed. The rules are however usually

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Scoping site CSS

2013-07-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 16 jul. 2013, at 23:51, Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.org wrote: I wrote an RFC about scoping Common.css and Mobile.css: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Scoping_site_CSS In short: this could help us separate CSS rules added by administrators from the core UI rules

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
CC Lupo, who is the primary maintainer of that Gadget for years. DJ On 18 jul. 2013, at 01:27, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Had a quick chat with jared Zimmerman (cced) around this (who's not on this mailing list) He says: HotCat is number one on my list of gadgets to get some UX

Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-23 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I'm wondering if the lack of reactions so far is positive or negative. It's negative, it shows that few people have the confidence to think they have something worthwhile to contribute on this niche area. :( Output: I'd love to support MathML as primary direction, but I still see huge problems

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-23 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 23 jul. 2013, at 18:06, Subramanya Sastry ssas...@wikimedia.org wrote: A leading line feed in a parameter - what the? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Sam_%26_Cat_episodescurid=39469556diff=565437324oldid=565416618 This is something I'll have to investigate. This is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-24 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: So what I would actually propose for the short term (next few years) in case we really want to go the direction of MathML is the following: 1: img tag + --data-math=formulaID in HTML 2: script to detect MathML

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st

2013-08-20 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 20 aug. 2013, at 23:21, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 23:19:22 +0200, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: If we change all sites to require HTTPS for logged-in users, we'll certainly increase site security and enhance the user experience for most

Re: [Wikitech-l] A metadata API module for commons

2013-09-04 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 4 sep. 2013, at 18:59, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/1/13, Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.w...@gmail.com wrote: [..] The downside to this is in order to effectively get metadata out of commons given the current practises, one essentially has to screen scrape and do slightly

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] VisualEditor weekly update - 2013-09-05 (MW 1.22wmf16)

2013-09-06 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
And on Mac OS X, ctrl+1,2,3,4 etc the hotkeys for desktop spaces. But in general, problems like this are hard to avoid I think. As long as I have a quick way 'out' of the editable context that is grabbing these keys, i won't really mind. DJ On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie)

Re: [Wikitech-l] A metadata API module for commons

2013-09-06 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I'm just throwing some ideas out there, in hope of inspiring you: Things you might want to consider (at least in the design) of this API/Extension, might be: multi licensing, derivative and/or 'companion' linking (subtitle files, cropping etc, the pictured object) and their copyrights, keeping

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] VisualEditor weekly update - 2013-09-05 (MW 1.22wmf16)

2013-09-06 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Oh actually, seems that the OS overrides Safari etc here and won't even allow you to intercept ctrl+1,2,3,4 for your own purposes here. DJ On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: And on Mac OS X, ctrl+1,2,3,4 etc the hotkeys for desktop spaces

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Once figured out, might be a good idea to add them to: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jonathan_de_Boyne_Pollard/Guide_to_blocking_IP_version_6_addresses DJ On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Brad Jorsch b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 09:26:25AM +0200, Merlijn

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-06-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: On 05.06.2012, 16:16 Jon wrote: I still think inline styles are going to continue causing problems on the mobile site as many people creating articles may only me thinking in terms of how a page will look in desktop

[Wikitech-l] jQuery 2.0 dropping IE 6,7,8 support

2012-07-02 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
http://blog.jquery.com/2012/06/28/jquery-core-version-1-9-and-beyond/ jQuery 1.8 should arrive within a month. Here is our thinking about the next two versions of jQuery to follow it, and when they’ll arrive: jQuery 1.9 (early 2013): We’ll remove many of the interfaces already deprecated in

Re: [Wikitech-l] jQuery 2.0 dropping IE 6,7,8 support

2012-07-02 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Well we can also include both versions and conditionally load them. DJ On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: http://blog.jquery.com/2012/06/28/jquery-core

Re: [Wikitech-l] Creating a centralized access point for propriety databases/resources

2012-07-25 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
You could always create an OpenVPN gateway that provides access. Many edu institutions have the same setup to access those resources. DJ On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Ocaasi Ocaasi wikioca...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Folks! The problem: Many proprietary research databases have donated free

[Wikitech-l] Planet update is taking too long

2012-09-15 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Planet was supposed to be switched to the new version about a month ago, but still isn't. In the mean time, no new blogs can be added to the old planet it seems, and that causes the WLM blogs to STILL not be present in the blog feed, half way into the event. If it keeps up like this, the event

[Wikitech-l] git review updated

2012-09-15 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
When using git review today, i was greeted with: A new version of git-review is availble on PyPI. Please update your copy with: pip install -U git-review Actually running that resulted in an error: pip install -U git-review Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/pip,

[Wikitech-l] HTML5 and non valid attributes/elements of previous versions (bug 40329)

2012-09-19 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I would like to open some discussion about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40329 This bug is about the fact that we currently do a 'partial' transform of the HTML5-invalid attribute 'align'. We all agree that this is bad, what we need to figure out is what to do next: 1: Disable

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML5 and non valid attributes/elements of previous versions (bug 40329)

2012-09-19 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: 1: Disable the transform and output the align attribute even though it's not valid HTML5. Solve validness later. 2: Remove the attribute from HTML5 and 'break' the content. Fix by users (or bot). 3: Disable

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML5 and non valid attributes/elements of previous versions (bug 40329)

2012-09-20 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: DJ would you mind explaining again (in different terms) why we can't do both #1 and #4 (#1 as a temporary measure while we achieve #4)? I don't think I quite understood your first explanation. I'll try.

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML5 and non valid attributes/elements of previous versions (bug 40329)

2012-09-20 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Small mistake in the example, I meant td instead of table. td[align=center] { text-align: center; } td[align=center] *[display=block or table]{ margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; } On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML5 and non valid attributes/elements of previous versions (bug 40329)

2012-09-29 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
. But frankly, I have never seen any article or template that even tried to use align to center non-inline content (besides {| align=center). -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name] On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:23:37 -0700, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf

Re: [Wikitech-l] Media infrastructure maintenance (uploads disabled) Friday Oct 5, 11 am UTC

2012-10-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
It might be smart to run a sitenotice (at least on commons) One of the few occasions where such notices actually make sense in my opinion. DJ On 4 okt. 2012, at 14:19, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: We're going to swap out ms7, the current media server fallback, for a netapp.

Re: [Wikitech-l] All wmf imagescalers now running ubuntu 12.04 precise

2012-10-30 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 25 okt. 2012, at 11:36, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 24/10/12 20:08, Peter Youngmeister a écrit : Hi All, As of this moment, all imagescalers are now running ubuntu 12.04 precise pangolin. This should close a number of bugzilla tickets, as well as remove the final blocker

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Jon, 1: Get templateeditor rights on your volunteer account, you can edit the majority of templates with that, and you only need to proof your skill with templates for that, which is a reasonably low barrier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_editor 2: This whole stuff is mostly

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Bartosz Dziewoński joins Wikimedia as a Features Contractor

2014-10-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
W00t ! DJ On 7 okt. 2014, at 19:54, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: Welcome officially on board! :D -- brion On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:42 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello all, It is my great pleasure to announce that Bartosz Dziewoński[0] has

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 8 okt. 2014, at 04:37, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: As members of the Mobile Team, it's our job to make the mobile platform the best it can be. If we have to edit templates to do that because they're causing significant display issues that are disrupting the platform, so be it.

[Wikitech-l] Live preview

2014-11-09 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Hi all, I've had a significant update to Live Preview in the pipeline for a while now. It brings a few major improvements, the most important of it being able to load resourceloader modules that the preview requires, fixing a whole slew of problems that the old implementation had. The only

[Wikitech-l] Autosave drafts

2014-11-09 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Something else that I have had in the pipeline for a long while is autosave drafts. Basically, whenever you type, the article is saved to your local computer. If the browser crashes, and you visit the same article, it will prompt you for recovery. Making a Special:Autosave drafts index page

Re: [Wikitech-l] Autosave drafts

2014-11-10 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
revs (triggered by timers/big edit delta) from the 2 last articles user is editing. Vito Inviato con AquaMail per Android http://www.aqua-mail.com Il 09 novembre 2014 23:02:40 Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com ha scritto: Something else that I have had in the pipeline

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator migration part II: Replacing gitblit with Diffusion

2014-11-26 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Yes they are tied together. There are some really good explanations about the reasons and history of phab callsigns in https://secure.phabricator.com/T4245 I'm not a big fan of them either DJ On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Gilles Dubuc gil...@wikimedia.org wrote: Is there a length

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator migration part II: Replacing gitblit with Diffusion

2014-11-26 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
roadmap-updater.git I just wanted to make sure that people were aware of that, it's an interesting way to namespace on url, but not on checkout directory. DJ On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: Yes they are tied together. There are some

[Wikitech-l] What to do with TimedMediaHandler

2014-12-11 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
So for a while now, I have been toying a bit with TimedMediaHandler/MwEmbed/TimedText, with the long term goal of wanting it to be compatible with VE, live preview, flow etc. There is a significant challenge here, that we are sort of conveniently ignoring because stuff 'mostly works' currently

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Ehm, has accessibility been taken into account with this design ? Quoting WebAIM: Always use native HTML markup to provide the necessary semantic content and meaning, then use CSS to enhance and change the default styles. I can't fully tell from just looking that the patches. DJ On Wed, Dec 17,

Re: [Wikitech-l] broken user scripts getting in the way of other features

2014-12-31 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
See related discussion on: phab:T76204 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76204, phab:T85304 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85304, and phab:T85306 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85306 DJ On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hallo, I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Stance on Social Media

2015-01-10 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 10 jan. 2015, at 02:10, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: What if we used Wikidata and had an open form of sharing? I could imagine us asking Wikidata what things are instance of sharing platforms and what the URL for them. Using something like OOJS UI's InputLookupWidget you could

Re: [Wikitech-l] Frustration about Canvas

2015-01-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
What browser, and do you have the code somewhere ? That makes assisting a lot easier. Taking a wild guess based on your comments so far, if you are importing an img into a canvas, you might require the 'crossorigin' attribute to be set on that element.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 17 mrt. 2015, at 19:45, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/03/15 15:32, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: Indentation is a crappy workaround for when your communication system does not support a sane

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] VisualEditor on Wikipedia now faster with RESTBase

2015-03-20 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Wow great work everyone, thank you for all the hard work to make this happen. DJ On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:14 AM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Jared Zimmerman jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Wikimedia REST content API is now available in beta

2015-03-11 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Awesome, can't wait to see the 'downstream' effects of such an impressive new piece in our software puzzle globe. Great work team DJ On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Hay (Husky) hus...@gmail.com wrote: This is awesome. Congratulations to Gabriel and the rest of the team. I'll surely hope

Re: [Wikitech-l] Org changes in WMF's Platform Engineering group

2015-03-25 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Gilles Dubuc gil...@wikimedia.org wrote: As far as active development goes, some things are still in the pipeline, like addressing technical issues that affect UploadWizard's funnel. This is assigned to the API team but isn't the top priority for the coming

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:Gather launching on beta for English WP mobile users.

2015-03-26 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 26 mrt. 2015, at 15:19, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Actually after reading the extension page, I'm a little confused. If the goal is to create private personal lists why are the lists public? I can understand the use case for private lists (watchlist). I understand the use case

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thumbnail image hinting in articles via metadata tags

2015-04-03 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 3 apr. 2015, at 06:27, Stas Malyshev smalys...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi! Would it be feasible to include an og:image tag on pages for which we have a reasonable guess as to the thumbnail? Open Graph[3] is supported by what seems anecdotally to me to be a wide range of services, so

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Chromium to our QUnit testing

2015-04-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Thank you for the update Timo, good to see so many improvements finally coming together. DJ On 4 apr. 2015, at 05:40, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: TL;DR: * Our QUnit jobs now uses latest Chromium instead of PhantomJS. * You can run the test suite from the command line locally now.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

2015-04-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Can we stop pretending that duct tape is the best thing out there ? It’s great as patch-up material and as an arts project you can probably build a house out of it you really tried, but that doesn’t make it a good building material for a 60 story office building. DJ, Let’s naturalize a few

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

2015-04-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 8 apr. 2015, at 21:17, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: I think the problem is one of integration. People want anything publically editable to be consistent. Earlier in this thread TheDJ made a comparison to building an office tower with duct tape. Well he has a fair point about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please help a patch not to become two years old

2015-06-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Just for kicks, I revived an almost 2,5 year old patch to add WebP upload support :D https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/95872/ Anyone interested ? DJ On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: Il 08/06/2015 12:56, Andre Klapper ha scritto: On Sat,

[Wikitech-l] Side by side content preview of wikicode

2015-06-09 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Now that I finally have JS previewing for wikicode working a bit better... I present a new user script: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ/ActualLivePreview.js If your window is wider then 1200px, it will split it in half and show you your edit surface and your content preview side by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is non-SSL request still allowed?

2015-06-12 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/12/securing-wikimedia-sites-with-https/ On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Max Vlasov max.vla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a software using mediawiki api with Wikipedia. It uses general http requests. Suddenly it stopped working several days ago (maybe a

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to serve up subtitles

2015-08-18 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
/TimedText:Folgers.ogv.de.srt DJ On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: As part of Brion's and mine struggle for better A/V support on Wikipedia, I have concluded that our current

[Wikitech-l] How to serve up subtitles

2015-08-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
As part of Brion's and mine struggle for better A/V support on Wikipedia, I have concluded that our current support for subtitles is rather... improvised. Currently all our SRT files are referenced from HTML using action=raw. But then not actually used from action=raw, but instead served up as

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Replace Tidy with HTML 5 parse/reserialize

2015-08-18 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
If we want to do away with Tidy, we will have to make all editors perfect html authors, or we risk them damaging pages so much that they potentially can't access the edit button anymore. As far as i'm concerned, this is what Tidy does primarily. Isolate errors in the content in such a way that it

Re: [Wikitech-l] I love Parsoid but it doesn't want me

2015-08-14 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
This is awesome, thank you Scott DJ On 14 aug. 2015, at 00:20, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote: Good news: https://doc.wikimedia.org/Parsoid/master/#!/guide/jsapi now documents the new friendlier API for Parsoid. --scott On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Ricordisamoa

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia iOS app moving to GH

2015-07-22 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I have no problem with that, as long as everyone with +2 keeps his access and someone manages developer account additions and removals. Oh, and when it syncs with phabricator tickets DJ On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Good job, you aren't the only one.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi changes

2015-07-15 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 15 jul. 2015, at 18:43, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is this related to the fact that some pages are now categorized in Pages with syntax highlighting errors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_with_syntax_highlighting_errors ? How can we find what is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

2015-11-14 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Thank goodness. Finally we might be able to start fully building out the promise of powerful, targeted and appropriate messaging that Echo always was the the kick off for. I especially like the acknowledgment of the 'volume knob'. Balancing the 'noise' of messaging is going to be really

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-07-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: Is there a common approach for gadgets to identify themselves to the API - e.g. setting a custom user-agent? Clients that cannot set the User-Agent header (such as gadgets and other scripts running in a

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Pageview API

2015-11-16 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Grah, too early in the morning unselfishly of course !!! DJ > On 17 nov. 2015, at 08:10, Derk-Jan Hartman <d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Awesome !! > And once more a thank you to Henrik who selflessly maintained his > stats.grok.se for s

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Pageview API

2015-11-16 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Awesome !! And once more a thank you to Henrik who selflessly maintained his stats.grok.se for so many years !!! DJ > On 17 nov. 2015, at 04:40, Rachel diCerbo wrote: > > This is fantastic news - thank you so much, Analytics, Services, Ops, and > the communities who

Re: [Wikitech-l] +2 in mediawiki/* for Florian

2015-09-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
wait, he didn’t have +2 yet ? well about time !!! congrats. > On 8 sep. 2015, at 22:48, Legoktm wrote: > > Hi, > > Per [1], I gave Florian +2 powers in mediawiki/* repos. Congratulations! > > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105612 > > -- Legoktm > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF Discovery/Editing/Reading Showcase 20151214

2015-12-18 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I have to say, there is some awesome stuff in there. Nice work everyone ! DJ On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Adam Baso wrote: > Here's video from the Discovery/Editing/Reading Showcase on > 14-December-2015. Enjoy! > > Commons >

Re: [Wikitech-l] The right way to inject user-supplied JavaScript?

2015-12-29 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
> On 29 dec. 2015, at 21:59, Daniel Barrett wrote: > I also read > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_for_extension_developers > but did not find an answer. Hmm, we should really update parts of those guides btw. They not yet take 1.26 into

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please welcome Chris Koerner to the Wikimedia Foundation

2016-02-10 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Welcome Chris ! It's good to see a community liaison coming from a slightly different background and I hope to see you around ! DJ On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > I am pleased to announce that Chris Koerner has joined the Wikimedia > Foundation as

Re: [Wikitech-l] New [[Main Page]] for Wikitech

2016-01-28 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
This is awesome Bryan ! DJ > On 29 jan. 2016, at 06:55, Bryan Davis wrote: > > I've been working on a little redesign project for the Main Page on > wikitech [0] and three key sub pages it points to since 2016-01-01 in > my User space. Tonight I decided that although it is

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