Yeah, use wireless!
OK, other than that, there is a device that basically drills a horizontal
hole in the ground. Or it'll push conduit through the ground.
Out here it's called pushing a line. Not sure what the real term is for the
device that does the drilling/pushing.
laters,
marlon
I believe one would call that a road bore, it requires a road boring machine.
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a quick google search found a couple pics of a directional boring
machine.
Directional boring is pretty much all that is done in an urban area anymore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directional_boring
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Eliptical waeguide is also $13 a foot, connectors are over $200 each, you need
a bunch of special hardware to hang it and a dehydrator or nitrogen system to
keep it dry.
I just don't picture the WRAP board group buying waveguide
Bob
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No not crazy and very educated on the matter.
LMR over regular RG8 coax
And LMR600 over 1/2 heliax.
Use your words a little more careful
Bob
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From: Matt Jenkins
To: Lakeland
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables
Sent: Aug 19, 2008 11:45 PM
When Verizon FiOS was put into my neighborhood, they just used labor.
They had 30 or so people on our street for a week digging everything up.
From the right of way in front of the side walks, to the common area where
the in -ground boxes were put, to the streets. The Comcast cable was run
an
Directional bore rig. You should be able to find a utility contractor who has
one. Pricing here in NY is about $10 foot which icludes the bore and placement
of 1 1/2 HDPE pipe. Gotta be cheaper by you but still a lot of money
Bob
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I'm using LMR-900 on a 130 foot run running 5.8Ghz just fine
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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Ah, but I will make someone a killer deal on hangers,
connectors, a dehydrator system, etc for eliptical!
Pennies on the dollar!
But I agree, I don't see it being used much by a WISP.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card
You might be able to rent one of the pneumatic boring rigs at your local
tool rental outlet. For shorter runs, you can also use a backhoe - Dig
a trench on either side of the road/sidewalk and then use the hoe to
push sections of rigid underneath the pavement. You just thread on
another section
If you have any distance at all to go, and you want it to work, you have no
choice.
Transmission line loss adds DIRECTLY to receiver noise figure.
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130 feet on 5.8 through LMR 900 = serving about 20% of the area you could
serve if the coax was not in place.
I guess it depends on what folks call working.
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Apparently they do - haven't found any yet, but they seem to have a
pretty good selection:
http://tinyurl.com/632pxz
Anyone ever play with their 2-pc keyed versions like
http://www.belfuse.com/Data/UploadedFiles/MN370054.pdf
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Would like to mention that there is not a
http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=7774
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Hi All,
I really like my Tranzeo CPQ radios. But we're seeing a LOT of power supply
failures (and they are too cheap to even warranty, we just buy new ones).
Sometimes they don't fully fail either, they go low or something, the
injector lights up like it should but the radio just won't work
Marlon,
I remember you talking about Ez connectors in the past. It may be the
solution, so wires can be pulled through instead of pushed when its a tight
fit..
Are the Ez shielded connectors a one peice connector or do they have
inserts?
Can they handle the thicker wire and direct buriels
Star cpes
Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
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With Power supply and test antenna.
Hit me offlist with offers.
Thanks,
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Unless you
Marlon,
I LOVE my Tranzeo radios. Before using them, I all but gave up on 802.11. In
an effort to assist, I dont have the disconnect issues you mention. I've
got StarOS on WRAP boards for AP's.
I dont have any power supply issues either except from the expected
lightning. I use 15 volt units
LOL, kinda like their commericals - they have crowds of hundreds of people
everywhere. It's the network! -RickG
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When Verizon FiOS was put into my neighborhood, they just used labor.
They had 30 or so people on our street for a week
Chuck,
Vegetation might have a huge impact on the coverage area. I've seen
pictures of your area, it looks like heaven to me. My experience is
that the first two trees will eat up a 5.8 signal, so expanding the
coverage area by 80% just adds another tree or two.
It might be very sensible
I have a company that would like to track real-time and summary
information of internet activity of it's employees (by IP). They are
looking for summary information, not email content/instant messenger
chats/passwords. What would be ideal would be a passive device that
acts like a sniffer that
I hate to rain on someone's parage but before you can dig under the streets and
sidewalks you have to get approval from the City or County. They typically
require engineering surveys, and co-ordination with the other utilities such as
power, tv, phone, water, sewer, etc.
Even with directional
Marlon,
My best experiences have been with StarOS clients connecting to
StarOS APs. Regarding disconnects, I don't see that much. I like to
program the client radio's ping watchdog to hit the AP every 10
seconds. Then when I'm in the association page on the AP, all the
clients will have
Ntop (http://www.ntop.org/) will give you source IP, destination IP, and
port. Runs on Linux or Windows.
Cisco NetFlow can be combined with a free seat of PRTG and their 250.00
NetFlow plugin.
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This is what we do too. It works very well.
Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
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Also note there are privacy legal issues here. Some opinions are that it is
illegal for an employer to secretly watch their employee's Internet content
and/or usage.
That information is considered the property of the employee. This is why
many organizations chose to restrict what their
Anyone able to get NTop running on vista?
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Wlanparts are currently out of stock. However metrix.net has some ( I just
bought two for testing).
Tom S.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:08 AM
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I
Not true. Employers own the content of all correspondence, whether
electronic or otherwise.
That has been time tested.
Plus, in this state we can record the phone calls. We can record you on the
phone without even notifying you if we call you or if you call us.
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Jerry Richardson wrote:
I hate to rain on someone's parage but before you can dig under the streets
and sidewalks you have to get approval from the City or County. They
typically require engineering surveys, and co-ordination with the other
utilities such as power, tv, phone, water, sewer,
Eric Rogers wrote:
Any ideas? I have recommended software that is a keylogger and
recorder, but they want something that is totally transparent, i.e.
sniffer.
keylogger? not sure where you're going with that.
check out ntop
that, i'm guessing, solves about 90% of your current needs.
Jerry Richardson wrote:
Ntop (http://www.ntop.org/) will give you source IP, destination IP, and
port. Runs on Linux or Windows.
Yes! Ntop is awesome!
Cisco NetFlow can be combined with a free seat of PRTG and their 250.00
NetFlow plugin.
NTOP can be a NetFlow endpoint. I have that
NTOP can be a NetFlow endpoint. I have that setup in my lab. Works
great.
Good to know.
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We can buy the ONT for $375.
The COE per sub works out to about another $200.
So $500 plus the strand of fiber. Drop fiber can be had for 25 cents per
foot.
Contractors can put it in for a buck a foot. Including cleanup.
In a subdivision, I can do FTTH for less than $1K per sub.
And my arpu
Not directed toward Chuck or Tom. We (WISPA lists) tend to get off
track and I want suggestions at this point. I am not a lawyer, so I
will leave that for this employer to consult his attorney. The matter
at hand is to monitor traffic as a summary, not capture data.
Thanks,
Eric
NTop - Excellent suggestion.
I am also looking (since it is a mikrotik firewall) using NetFlow and
some sort of logging tool.
Eric
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The advantage of PRTG is that is will generate reports and email them on
a regular basis.
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I have a few NS2 left $85 each.
Jim
jeffcosoho.com
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Does anyone know of any nano or powerstations in stock?
Brian
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Jerry Richardson wrote:
The advantage of PRTG is that is will generate reports and email them on
a regular basis.
H. I imagine this could be done pretty easily with NTOP as well.
Might require some shell scripting.
Hmmm...
http://www.go-nowires.com/wireless-blog/fios-too-risky/
From the article:
When it was announced, Verizon’s $23 billion planned investment in the
service, called FiOS, was met by a chorus of skeptics, both on Wall
Street and among rivals. Verizon rejected cheaper broadband alternatives
I currently pay $79 for the nano's and $125 for the PS2's. Hit me
offlist if you have stock and the price.
I'd take at least 20 of each, but not interested in paying only what I
have to, even if it means waiting.
Brian
Jim Patient wrote:
I have a few NS2 left $85 each.
Jim
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I use all MT and knock on wood, I hardly have non-mother nature related
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Except for the fact that the fiber will deliver enough bandwidth for at
least a decade or two and the WiMAX gear day 1 couldn't deliver enough
bandwidth.
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I love this country... It's illegal to watch your employee's usage, but
then you are liable if they do something illegal.
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In Missouri its only illegal if you don't disclose it. You can monitor
it all you want and can use it for a reason to fire someone. As long as
they know that all data/websites etc are property of the company and
that they can be monitored etc. Most companies put it in their
employee
There is that.
Mike Hammett wrote:
Except for the fact that the fiber will deliver enough bandwidth for at
least a decade or two and the WiMAX gear day 1 couldn't deliver enough
bandwidth.
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We make 'em sign a statement saying they have read the employee handbook.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:39 PM
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In Missouri its only
It's a backhaul so that doesn't matter, backhaul is running 54/54 so it
can't get any better anyway, -60's. I'm using dishes.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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Power supply failures? Not seeing those. My biggest problem with the CPQ
line is that 90% of the time when they are not working are they need
power-cycled. They actually need power cycled more than I think they should.
I remember the old CPE-200 days and you never had to power cycle them EVER!
If you have a Netflow compatible router at the edge, you can use
http://manageengine.adventnet.com/products/netflow/network-bandwith-monitoring.html
John Thomas
Eric Rogers wrote:
I have a company that would like to track real-time and summary
information of internet activity of it's
Dude
That is not what I was commenting on. You made the following blanket
statement regarding radio links and waveguide:
If you have any distance at all to go, and you want it to work, you have
no
choice.
That is the statement YOU made with your 5 million years of experience. THAT
statement
Thanks!
Having taken my deaders apart now I see some with a u.fl pigtail and
some with an MMCX or RP-MMCX pigtail. (I always get those two mixed
up) I'd like to find a female MMCX or female RP-MMCX to u.fl
pigtail to use in these
Any ideas where to find those? Anyone?
Blair
RG8 on 5.8 GHz? That was the start of the thread.
ATT long lines high cap availability spec. That is how I define WORK.
200 foot tower at 6 GHz or above. That is how I define any distance at
all.
You think you can get 20 dB of fade margin at 5.8 GHz using any amount of
RG8 in the
All the CPQ series and newer have uf.l
The only ones that don't are the CPE-200 series which you can probably tell
by now are just a CB3. I've not found a way to attach any radio to these so
I just throw the antenna out and put a N-Female bulkhead connector on the
Tranzeo and use them as if the
Don't know about the thicker wire. These are NOT shielded connectors. I
don't know if there is a version like that or not.
It takes a special crimper because the wires are cut to length at the same
time as they crimp takes place.
This way you can check the way the you wired it before you do
You replace all of the power supplies right off the bat? OR only when they
break.
I understand about the lightning. But it's funny how often the new tranzeo
units go out while everything else just keeps running.
Thanks,
marlon
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A rb411 with a SR2 card will work and plug in but it is not cost
effective...
I am going to look at some way to do a u.fl on them. I'd be happy if
I could find u'fl pigtails, lmr-100 or so with the other end bare wire.
blair
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
All the CPQ series and newer have
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